Game #9: George Mason - Sat Nov 30 @ 4:00pm ET

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 10 years ago

He'd help more for depth right now and maybe the presence of a shot blocker

brady1 · Unread post by **brady1** » 10 years ago

Tom, I thought our frontcourt played their best game of the year foul trouble or not and our small line-up is not that that bad on D or rebounding. Our three best guards shot 8 for 31 that's why we lost. I think DAN needs to have a little meeting with these three and get them working together.

Also Mr. Hurley big fan but please no more Chinese fire drills after we make our first FT you are literally running around like a chicken with your head cut off as you figure out how to substitute after the 1st made FT. With so many frosh and transfers just let them shoot the second shoot for now.

GO RHODY!

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 10 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:Are there still people that don't think Hare could help?

I dont see how there could be at this point.

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 10 years ago

Aaman needs to sack up and play its been two weeks. Man up. "Pain-tolerance" injury as Hurley put it. Tolerate the pain Mike.

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 10 years ago

seriously 15? he had his appendix out, it's not like he bumped his knee

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 10 years ago

Rhody15 wrote:Aaman needs to sack up and play its been two weeks. Man up. "Pain-tolerance" injury as Hurley put it. Tolerate the pain Mike.

Please tell me you aren't serious.

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 10 years ago

Recovery is 3 weeks, PC game will have been two and a half.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 10 years ago

sack up? by all accounts mike aaman looks like a pretty tough dude.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 10 years ago

Rhody15 wrote:Recovery is 3 weeks, PC game will have been two and a half.

So then by your own made up recovery time he still wouldnt be ready...

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 10 years ago

Why because of the tattoos? Kinda stereotypical don't you think? Also Twisted, if you're the person is your avi you were my RA freshmen year in Butt.

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 10 years ago

This offense stinks so badly. I won't even go through my usual DH/X rant. I don't even have that in me. Four assists. Four stinking assists. Forget the turnovers 15 isn't horrible. Not great but not horrible. 4 turnovers just shows how summer league, AAU ball this offense is. Every possession is torturous. Gil gets five shots?

jcru · Unread post by **jcru** » 10 years ago

The fastest I ever heard of an athlete coming back from an appendectomy was Matt Cassell in about a week and a half when he was with the Chiefs. Well, just under two weeks, but he practiced once or twice before the game.

An NFL player like Cassell would have expressed his desire to play by the second weekend, mediated it through his agent with the team, coaches, physicians, etc, and they would have pumped him full of narcotic level IV drugs to get him to be able to do that. The kind which they are not going to be giving a college basketball player.

So it will be at least three weeks.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 10 years ago

Rhody15 wrote:Why because of the tattoos? Kinda stereotypical don't you think? Also Twisted, if you're the person is your avi you were my RA freshmen year in Butt.

no has nothing to do with the tattoos. kinda dumb comment dont you think? i am basing it on the way he plays and what i know about him.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 10 years ago

Gonebarongone wrote:This offense stinks so badly. I won't even go through my usual DH/X rant. I don't even have that in me. Four assists. Four stinking assists. Forget the turnovers 15 isn't horrible. Not great but not horrible. 4 turnovers just shows how summer league, AAU ball this offense is. Every possession is torturous. Gil gets five shots?

cant argue with you after this one GBG. X was atrocious tonight. i believe the 4 assists are off, i had Biggie for 3 on our first 4 baskets. we were scoring layups and getting in the lane against them, and we went away from that in the second half. GIl should have been fed every time down the court.

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 10 years ago

Tale of the game with Mason; lackluster guard play outside TJ.

The contribution of the three starting guards:

Total Points: 23
Assists:2
Turnovers:10
Rebounds: 10

FG Shooting: 8-31, 26%
3-point shooting: 2-8, 25%
FT's: 5-8, 62%

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 10 years ago

Back to focusing on the game instead of my comment on Aaman, Matthews has looked uninterested/passive/whatever word you wanna lose the past 3/4 games. Also, I don't know what the hell has gotten into Munford, he's been off the whole year except for last game.

brady1 · Unread post by **brady1** » 10 years ago

I like X someone needs to challenge him he has talent. But to make it seem like he just had a bad night is ridiculous he's shooting .327 yes .327 for the year. The three guards don't play together time for a meeting Mr. Hurley. Totally disagree on EC he's aggressive he wants the ball but he has the look of a Frosh but a Frosh with one hell of a lot of potential.

The best coach in America just got out coached on the last play of the game. AUB put on athlete in the endzone to return a FG and Bama had no athletes on the field goal team. Saban had my bad all over his face as he went to shake hands. You gotta love sports.

GO RHODY!

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 10 years ago

bigappleram wrote:
Gonebarongone wrote:This offense stinks so badly. I won't even go through my usual DH/X rant. I don't even have that in me. Four assists. Four stinking assists. Forget the turnovers 15 isn't horrible. Not great but not horrible. 4 turnovers just shows how summer league, AAU ball this offense is. Every possession is torturous. Gil gets five shots?
cant argue with you after this one GBG. X was atrocious tonight. i believe the 4 assists are off, i had Biggie for 3 on our first 4 baskets. we were scoring layups and getting in the lane against them, and we went away from that in the second half. GIl should have been fed every time down the court.

You know what. It's not about X. He's doing what the coach is directing. Hell, I'd keep shooting too. He'll have good and bad games. I sort of bought the excuse last year that someone had to shoot it. There are good players on this team, though. But the same offense as last year.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Sure, jump all over Munford, like he was the only one who sucked.
If it wasn't for X, we'd have been buried by McNeese State.
The kid plays hard, night in and night out.
Matthews is looking very ordinary the last three games.
The entire backcourt, couldn't hit the ocean.
This was a frustrating game, because every time we could take the lead,
we screwed it up.
Very winnable game. We shot 50% in the first half and in the 20's in the second half.
TJ was the only one who played well, really.
Biruta's starting to look like something, but some silly fouls hurt. Same with
Oneykaba.
Reischel is a mystery to me. He has open 3's and passes them up.
Refs sucked. Every questionable call went to GMU. 24-18 for URI-GMU.
Too many easy baskets for GMU inside.
Martin at 6'7" did a nice job bodying their bigs.
Very winnable game that we just failed to make the big plays down the
stretch.

15 Year Lurker · Unread post by **15 Year Lurker** » 10 years ago

Close game. Just need to execute when it counts.

We do seem to have talented players at every position. I havent seen that in a long time. Just didnt execute at the end.

Assist stats seem to be off in a lot of college games...i was watching the butler game yesterday and andrew chrabacz had a two assists i remembered and was surprised to see zero in the box score. Same thing with this game tonight. Im not sure if that is someone with the school who tracks that or if its the ncaa but they never get it right.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Assists stats are a crock of shit. Home scorers always give visitors less.

brady1 · Unread post by **brady1** » 10 years ago

Rod, I like X but had hopes he was going to have a monster season as the A-10's leading returning scorer. Think he still can but he needs kick in the a$$ not excuses in my CYO opinion. Hey had hopes X could be a poor man's CAT this season now I hoping he's just 6-11 instead of 5-18 every night. The guards don't play together HURLEY!

GO RHODY!

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 10 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Sure, jump all over Munford, like he was the only one who sucked.
If it wasn't for X, we'd have been buried by McKneese State.
The kid plays hard, night in and night out.
Matthews is looking very ordinary the last three games.
The entire backcourt, couldn't hit the ocean.
This was a frustrating game, because every time we could take the lead,
we screwed it up.
Very winnable game. We shot 50% in the first half and in the 20's in the second half.
TJ was the only one who played well, really.
Biruta's starting to look like something, but some silly fouls hurt. Same with
Oneykaba.
Reischel is a mystery to me. He has open 3's and passes them up.
Refs sucked. Every questionable call went to GMU. 24-18 for URI-GMU.
Too many easy baskets for GMU inside.
Martin at 6'7" did a nice job bodying their bigs.
Very winnable game that we just failed to make the big plays down the
stretch.

Like I said, its not about X. Guy plays hard. 18 shots is just DH and/or the staff not being able to install a competent offense. Four assists? Gil, O, Martin missed two shots the entire game but X gets seven more than those three combined? And, let's be honest, GMU was a decent road test but they sort of stink.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

Looking at Jarelle's line, it doesn't look like he was involved very much. In 27 minutes played, he took 3 shots, had 0 rebounds and 0 assists.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 10 years ago

At least they didn't lose on a returned field goal attempt.

brady1 · Unread post by **brady1** » 10 years ago

Well ace they kinda did but we won't do there,

GO RHODY!

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Real simple. Biruta and Oneykaba played minimal minutes and were saddled with foul
trouble. Munford played the same minutes as the two combined, and
it's a lot easier for a guard to get shots than interior players.
Billyboy, I don't get Reischel at all. He looked good in the exhibition and against Maine.
Since then, he's only been in double figures in two games. We were told he was an ace on
defense, but he gets beat a lot.

brady1 · Unread post by **brady1** » 10 years ago

Rod, love you man but X is .327 shooting percentage for the year. He's got to play better for this team to succeed.

GO RHODY!

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Not arguing. He's been terrible shooting the 3. The rest of his game remains
solid. It's not like he's Akeem Richmond who shoots and does nothing else.
When Hurley needed to shut down McNeese's leading scorer in the second half, Munford got
the job. He usually has his share of rebounds and assists. too.
As for who besides X needs to play better? Matthews, Oneykaba, Biruta,
Reischel and Martin. Which player on our roster, besides TJ, has played up to
his potential?

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 10 years ago

Stop defending what can't be defended. It's been happening since game one last year. The staff thinks giving X a zillion shots is the way to run a good offense. This is not a small sample size anymore. Let's keep doing the same thing over and over and hope for different results. X has taken 550 shots for Rhody and is under 40% from the field. What happened to DHs own words? That X will be better because he won't be carrying the load? 18 shots in a close, winnable game is coaching malpractice.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

FIRE HURLEY!!!! - GBG

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 10 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:FIRE HURLEY!!!! - GBG

Nope. Just get better. The players are there.

Without all the vitriol, Rod, what do you think should happen? I watched this entire game and every possession was pushing a boulder up a hill. No easy buckets. Too much one on one. No effort to get it inside where even the announcers knew we had an advantage.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Seriously, I'm baffled. We can't seem to play two complete halves of
basketball.
I thought our ball movement was good in the first half, and we did shoot 50%.
I think it's a Frankenstein team. We have fast guards and slow frontcourt players.
Chemistry is lacking, but that takes time.
The second half looked like the lousy offense we've seen too much of. Poor shot selection,
and bad decisions. Every time we could have taken the lead, someone messed up.
Matthews looks like he's regressing. Martin? What's his role? He was asked to play center today.
He's not a center.
There isn't one player playing up to expectations except TJ. How telling is that?
Could everyone have been so grossly overrated? Are they capable of melding their games into a team
structure?
This team has been practicing since August. Why hasn't it come together for more
than glimpses of a team?
I know this process takes time, and we've seen higher rated team like last year's UCLA team
which never got it together, despite a monster recruiting class.
I liked what I saw in the first half and was very frustrated from what I saw in the second half.
I truly don't know the answer.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 10 years ago

Just back from the Patriot Center. Interesting place. We got to our seats but they were bad so we moved over closer to the center. Enter beligerent GMU fan. He flipped his lid because we were sitting in his seat. Not, hi your in my seat. But a full tantrum. Thought my Ranger buddy was going to take him out.

The game
Thought the team executed much better this game but the shots were not falling. Even Biggie missed a sure fire dunk. Iffy played well I thought. Biruta was tough under the boards as well. For us the biggest thing is the ball will not fall. Low assist numbers are a result of the missed shots, not a failure to find the open man.

If this team could find their confidence on the shooting we would be a very tough out. Even with a loss still glad I came down for the game.

Saw a good number of fans wearing Rhody gear.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

Whatever it is, it has to change fast. The easy part of the schedule is done. We play like this for much longer and there will be a lot of Ls on our record. I'm starting to think that whoever picked the worst record is going to win the contest.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

People keep saying we need to shoot better, that we're getting good looks. Has it occurred to those that we just don't have many good shooters?

section(105) · Unread post by **section(105)** » 10 years ago

If this game was viewed as a test/measuring stick(I thought so)of where this team is going into December and against an A-10 opponent, Rhody fell short and the progress is just not there. Other than X, we seem to not have any other consistent offensive support from other perimeter players. And without that, I am beginning to think the way we played tonite is what we/re gonna get in the A-10. Maybe sting and steal a game or two from the upper tier A-10 teams, loose a game or two along the way to the bottom group and fight it out game after game for wins with the middle group......

section(105) · Unread post by **section(105)** » 10 years ago

............I do not have a good feeling right now about Thursday......

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Minnis was pushed on his dunk attempt. Replay clearly showed refs missed
that one, among a host of others.
Looking at the schedule, worst case is we go into A-10 play 9-7.
Even without any major upsets, 18-19 wins before Brooklyn isn't too far
fetched.

jcru · Unread post by **jcru** » 10 years ago

theblueram wrote:Just back from the Patriot Center. Interesting place. We got to our seats but they were bad so we moved over closer to the center. Enter beligerent GMU fan. He flipped his lid because we were sitting in his seat. Not, hi your in my seat. But a full tantrum. Thought my Ranger buddy was going to take him out.

The game...

This board is great in so many ways, but I love the color. Haha

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 10 years ago

I actually felt like we were beginning to see some form of an offense early in the first half and I almost even posted in here because it was the first time I really remembered seeing it much this year. And then it definitely regressed back to bad one on one play and forced shots.

jcru · Unread post by **jcru** » 10 years ago

It's too bad, but a lot of the guys on this team are like red shirt freshman. Like that dunk, Biggie seems like a really bright kid, I doubt you'll ever see him do that again. I'm sure he learned his lesson there.

But, it's like they are all learning lessons as they go along. They are hitting every bump in the road. They'll learn from most of them, but it is going to cost them a few close ones like this one, no doubt.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Minnis was pushed on his dunk attempt. Replay clearly showed refs missed
that one, among a host of others.
Looking at the schedule, worst case is we go into A-10 play 9-7.
Even without any major upsets, 18-19 wins before Brooklyn isn't too far
fetched.

I'm thinking the only sure win is UNH. I'm not sure that @ Brown is a sure win right now.

jcru · Unread post by **jcru** » 10 years ago

Brown will be just like this game today, hopefully they will be a little more polished in a month.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Again, the dunk wasn't a dumb play. Replay showed he got pushed
while he was airborne.
Sorry, I think a little more positively than some here.
Time will tell. To say the only sure win is UNH is absurd.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Again, the dunk wasn't a dumb play. Replay showed he got pushed
while he was airborne.
Sorry, I think a little more positively than some here.
Time will tell. To say the only sure win is UNH is absurd.

PC, @Detroit, UNH, Southern Miss., @Brown, @LSU.....that's what's left. I don't see too many sure wins there.

jcru · Unread post by **jcru** » 10 years ago

It wasn't a dumb play, and he was clearly fouled, but he was going for showtime.

Speaking of missed calls: Their big man played volleyball with the ball into the other court and they tracked it down, and the officials let them bring it over the time line again ???

How does that happen at this level?

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 10 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Again, the dunk wasn't a dumb play. Replay showed he got pushed
while he was airborne.
Sorry, I think a little more positively than some here.
Time will tell. To say the only sure win is UNH is absurd.

Kenpom has Brown as 75% to win that game. Detroit is 69%. Southern Miss is 58% The only game they see Rhody as better than 50/50 is UNH at 81%. It's not gospel. You have the play the games but they are pretty good at what they do. The only sure win is UNH and even 81% isn't so sure. They will win more than that but 3-3 over the final six OOC is actually optimistic.

Also, he was fouled on the dunk. No doubt. But, a normal dunk or layup goes in, even with the bump.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 10 years ago

jcru wrote: Speaking of missed calls: Their big man played volleyball with the ball into the other court and they tracked it down, and the officials let them bring it over the time line again ???

How does that happen at this level?

I was surprised nobody else said anything about this play either. I was going crazy here in my living room.

jcru · Unread post by **jcru** » 10 years ago

I mean, I'm sure they tried to brush it off that someone on Rhody touched it, but it was like a jump ball at the beginning of a game, the guy's outstretched arm was two feet above the nearest thing around him and he cleared it out of there, it didn't touch anyone.

Unbelievable what these officials choose to see and not see. The home cooking on the road is out of control. Then, we play at the Ryan and we get those beauties that RoadyJay has in the other thread, and we get the exact opposite treatment.