DC_Rams wrote: ↑3 years ago
Jersey77 wrote: ↑3 years ago
rambone 78 wrote: ↑3 years ago
Thorr imo will not wait much longer for URI to contend for an NCAA berth.
Cox's leash has almost reached it's end.
For those of us who have been following this program for a long time, when we have hired coaches, success either follows very soon after those hires, or it doesn't at all.
Several examples: Kraft, Penders, Harrick. Of course, those coaches had a solid base of talent already here to build on. Hurley took time, but that was because there wasn't much here when he was hired.
Cox had a good base to work with when he was hired, and hasn't delivered. Yes, he's only been a HC for 3 years, but has he shown improvement in those 3 years? No, more like regression.
If things were showing steady improvement, I wouldn't be advocating we change coaches. But, that's where we're at.
I have been following this program a very long time much like you, and I don't expect Thorr to allow this to be another JB situation.
All three of the coaches you mentioned had prior extensive head coaching experience, unlike Cox.
Also player movement back then was much different than it is now, and they didn't have to deal with a pandemic year.
Just for clarification Kraft went 43/59 his first 4 years and didn't go to the NCAAT until his 5th season.
Let's see how the team performs this season under normal conditions, before we rush to judgement.
Don’t feed into it. These knee jerk, over reactionary, fair weather individuals have no clue. If Cox has a losing season next season, he will likely have one more year, still. He will not be canned considering the circumstances surrounding the past two seasons. Folks can pour, stomp and cry all they want, but Thorr is not itching to drop the anvil.
Knee jerk reactions. OK sure, I mean you could go back 3 seasons and pull the same complaints from game threads and apply them to game threads from this year to show that areas of concern have not progressed in 3 years. But yeah, knee jerk. After 3 years or 60% of the contract has expired, yup, definitely an immediate overreaction. Not like people have had 88 games to base a decision over.
Fair weather. Said the guy who showed up with his coach and went to "grad school" here. Yup. This is the group of most fair-weather individuals I've ever seen. Not like anyone here (or the AD) lived through 11 years of mediocrity and has seen a similar trend develop and can recognize something when it's going bad. Not like the group of people are on this board win or lose, good season or bad. Yup. The ones who want to see their team do better are "fair weather" but the guy who blindly roots for the coach and will follow him to whatever school he is at for the next job he takes is the "right" kind of fan. Got it.
For someone so sure of something, Thorr "not looking to drop the anvil" while extending Tammi Reiss and upping her base salary to match Dave Cox's mid-contract, and not providing DC an extension with 2 years to go, is someone who can't read tea leaves or doesn't understand the context. Now, you're obviously a veteran fan who grew up in Keaney gym and been around this program for multiple coaching administrations and a bunch of us are just fair weather fans who don't know anything - but Thorr gave Jim Baron a 1 year extension when he still had 3 years remaining in 2010 that ran to 2014, and then fired him in 2012. Thorr also fired Joe Trainer with 1 year left on his contract in football without extending him.
You probably knew that since you're such a die-hard URI guy through and through though.
Thorr has fired 2 women's basketball coaches, whom he never gave extensions to (Garrick resigned). Thorr fired 1 football coach, who he did not give an extension to. Dan Hurley was given 3 extensions and offered a 4th in his 6 years here. I would say Thorr not offering an extension here says a lot more than you're giving it credit for...but what do I know, I'm just some fair weather guy who showed up here only when things were good.
I'm not sure about the "circumstances" you're referring to, but basketball seasons were still played. The tournament that got cancelled saw URI on the outside of the field playing dreadful basketball with an all-too-familiar swoon at the end of the year. Thorr was here for those Baron swoons even if you weren't. Covid affected URI not even one iota. The schedule actually improved from a toughness standpoint, we just couldn't win any of those games. We had zero practice time affected. There was still an NCAA tournament we were not invited to, that 68 other teams who played through Covid got to play in.
If Thorr is giving a "pass" it's to see if Cox really just sold his soul to keep Fatts, and if Fatts leaving makes the team play a better brand of basketball. But if you think Thorr will support another losing season and will reward that with an extension, you are high.
Maybe I'm totally wrong, I wish I was as big a URI fan as you were so my opinion could count as much.