New Assistant Coach candidates

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

Names will surface eventually. If you has any ideas, post away. If you don't, want kind of profile are you looking for to replace P Murph? I have to be honest, my first thought was which AAU guys have a college degree? Not sure if that is a road Dan would want to go down, but we are going to need someone with access to players. I think the staff could use some balance with a veteran coach, but ultimately having access to recruits is more important. The only way I could see them going the veteran route is if Murray is doing more work for '15 behind the scenes than we know. I guess that's possible. I don't think you can judge him as a recruiter at this point because recruiting '14 players wasn't really his assignment.

URI_IEP · Unread post by **URI_IEP** » 10 years ago

I'd love to see Tyson and ARD get interviews. I'm not sure if they'd be good replacements, but given their history with the program and their experiance as assistant coaches in lower leagues I think they should get a shot. Like anything else though it would have to be Dan's call (obviously). Even though they have history here and the initial buzz might be good, they aren't "his" guys, and who knows how they are as coaches.

URI_IEP · Unread post by **URI_IEP** » 10 years ago

Oh yeah, whatever happened to Tom Garrick?

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 10 years ago

URI_IEP wrote:Oh yeah, whatever happened to Tom Garrick?

Head assistant coach on women's team at Vanderbilt in Nashville, TN

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

I doubt Dan is going to bring in ex-URI players, even if they are now assistant coaches.

I'm sure he has some people he's going to reach out to.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

I think trying to recreate the Preston magic would be a mistake. If Tyson or ARD were truly the best fit, then their URI history would put them over the top. But Preston was a pretty special and unique situation where he was super talented at the job and his career and our needs happened to align perfectly. You can't force that, with Preston it just kind of worked out.

Section104 · Unread post by **Section104** » 10 years ago

Are we hiring an associate head coach or a normal assistant? I see us going down a similar path as we did with Murray. Someone like Jeff Rafferty (Associate head coach at Delaware) or Greg Manning the #2 at Siena under Patsos.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 10 years ago

Perhaps one of the head coaches at the elite New England Prep schools with an outstanding reputation, a la Dee Rowe or Max Good, who has strong AAU ties/real connections in the Northeast. In fact, Good was recently replaced as head coach at Loyola Marymount….

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

What is the obsession with the new hire being from the 1998 team?
So you want to hire David Arigbabu because he was on the Elite 8 team?
Dan has loads of connections regarding recuiting. He was a high school coach, as is his father.
They've met all the guys looking at their players.
I realize the players Dan himself has brought in were with mixed results,
but yes, he needs to step up on this one.
As I've said, thinking outside the box with an eye toward AAU types, could work.
I also wouldn't mind a staff reshuffling.
Other than the D.O. and grad assistant, it's now an all white staff.
Besides a recruiter, someone else needs to go to bring in
and older Larry Farmer type. It would be nice if that person also has
some big man experience. A bunch of former PGs isn't going to help in that area.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 10 years ago

This is a huge hire for Dan Hurley. Huge. His decision, I trust he will nail it, he has to.

URI_IEP · Unread post by **URI_IEP** » 10 years ago

ARD was a big man if i remember correctly...

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

ARD isn't exactly a smooth talking type that succeeds on the
recruiting trail.

Section104 · Unread post by **Section104** » 10 years ago

What about a Jason Smith type guy who is obviously tapped into the Prep School circuit (Brewster head coach).

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 10 years ago

Kevin Freeman, UConn.

URI_IEP · Unread post by **URI_IEP** » 10 years ago

DISCLAIMER (THis is NOT SARCASM!!!) When was the last time anyone talked with ARD?

It seems from the Northeastern Website that he's doing all the things we'd expect and has 4 years in his current job. And I really do think the staff sorely needs a real big-man coach.

Antonio Reynolds-Dean returns for his fourth season on Bill Coen’s coaching staff. Reynolds-Dean works for the Huskies in numerous roles including recruiting, direct individual player improvement and other day-to-day operations. Reynolds-Dean previously served a one-year stint as the director of basketball operations at Fairfield. He also brings nine years of experience playing professional basketball to Northeastern.

http://gonu.com/coaches.aspx?rc=411&path=mbball

URI_IEP · Unread post by **URI_IEP** » 10 years ago

Just for giggles, here is the latest on Tyson from the Fairfield site.

Wheeler begins his fourth season as an assistant coach with the men's basketball team after serving two years as the director of basketball operations.

http://www.fairfieldstags.com/ViewArtic ... EASON=2013

Again, I'm not saying that Tyson, or ARD are the best fits for the job, only that given theri history with the program, current jobs, and geographical location (easy drive from Fairflied or Northeastern to URI for a polite interview) they should at least get a look.

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 10 years ago

I've always been an advocate of Bob Walsh, well-connected and well-respected in the area. He was also connected in the past few years with a few mid-level head coaching jobs, including the Canisius opening before Baron got it.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 10 years ago

rjsuperfly66 wrote:I've always been an advocate of Bob Walsh, well-connected and well-respected in the area. He was also connected in the past few years with a few mid-level head coaching jobs, including the Canisius opening before Baron got it.

I don't know if he's the kind of plug-in direct top-assistant replacement Dan would be looking for this time.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 10 years ago

Beat out by Baron - ouch

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 10 years ago

Hire like Mann's parents or something.

Dan should sell out, pick a coach that comes with an elite player. Imagine if we were getting that point guard SMU is getting? kid is incredible.

Look around America, pull the trigger on a can't miss player and his handler.

DH moves on to another job, we break our streak, if we hit on the next hire then we are fine.

RoadyJay · Unread post by **RoadyJay** » 10 years ago

Could one option be to bump up guys like Murray and Tirone and bring in a new DBO?

I'm not sure we are going to make a big splash with anyone given the salary restrictions.

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rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Walsh does a great job and deserves a head coaching job somewhere.
However, URI needs an inner city type, who knows the ropes.
We're not getting anyone from a successful program for the money they're offering.
It needs to be someone outside of the college scene.
Hurely should talk to Leo Papile and Marc Bayah, and find out who's hot in
their minds. These are ears to the ground guys, who'd know.
You need to bring in a recruiter, not a DBO.
I wouldn't promote anyone from this staff, until they prove they can actually
bring live bodies into the program.

RoadyJay · Unread post by **RoadyJay** » 10 years ago

Who says we don't have the recruiting talent already on staff. That's my point.

Unproven to this point yes. But I don't think we will be bringing in a proven recruiter.

I think Tirone is ready for next step. He's been doing pretty much the same role for 6-7 years now. If I'm him I want to see some growth.

We should evaluate all options and not just look to replace Preston. It may not be that easy.

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RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 10 years ago

We need a big time recruiter first and foremost. I am not aware that any of our player alumni are viewed as such (other than the one that just left us). I am not against having them on staff but in different roles. URI cannot hire someone with the hope that they will grow into a recruiting role. We need someone right now that can already do this well. Given the loss of Bobby last year and now Preston, we have to make certain we nail this hire. We need someone who is already very experienced in recruiting at this level.

RoadyJay · Unread post by **RoadyJay** » 10 years ago

RF1 wrote:We need a big time recruiter first and foremost. I am not aware that any of our player alumni are viewed as such (other than the one that just left us). I am not against having them on staff but in different roles. URI cannot hire someone with the hope that they will grow into a recruiting role. We need someone right now that can already do this well. Given the loss of Bobby last year and now Preston, we have to make certain we nail this hire. We need someone who is already very experienced in recruiting at this level.

If we don't have the money to pay Preston then why would we have the money to pay a proven experienced recruiter?

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rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Sorry is my point doesn't get though here.
When did you see an all white staff of little guys in college ball?
This isn't 1965.
Preston was from Saganaw, MI. He could relate to the kids he was recruiting,
and they could relate to him.
Nothing personal with any of the current staff, but them working the inner cities
seems a bit off.
You aren't going to bring in a proven college recruiter, You need to probe the AAU
circuit for a slickster, who can do the job.

RoadyJay · Unread post by **RoadyJay** » 10 years ago

Does what I'm saying prevent you from bringing in minority staff? Who says some AAU slickster can do better than the current staff. Maybe Preston leaving will allow these guys to step up.

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bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 10 years ago

"You aren't going to bring in a proven college recruiter, You need to probe the AAU
circuit for a slickster, who can do the job."
Yeah, a slickster with a proof-of-graduation college degree.

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 10 years ago

It's not always true, but there are caucasian assistants who can recruit the urban areas. Pat Skerry was a wiz on the trail, despite being a kid from Medford, MA and having coaching roots in mostly caucasian/surburban areas. Tufts, Stonehill, Curry, Northeastern, William & Mary, URI, PC, etc. Yet the guy could go out and recruit great players from urban areas. If he stayed at PC with Keno, Keno might still have a Big East job, he was that good. Don't think I would eliminate guys simply because they don't fit the "urban" mold.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

So, Preston was preventing Carr, Tirone and Murray from recruiting?
Crickets so far from those three, So, you want to promote them?
Carr's been on the East coast forever.He worked with Dan at Rutgers.
He is what he is.Nice guy, but... Tirone got the job partly because his father
was Hassan's assistant coach at Curtis High.
Murray worked with Dan at Wagner. It's a club of Dan's familiars.
I haven't seen anything that warrants a promotion for anyone.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 10 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:So, Preston was preventing Carr, Tirone and Murray from recruiting?
Crickets so far from those three, So, you want to promote them?
Carr's been on the East coast forever.He worked with Dan at Rutgers.
He is what he is.Nice guy, but... Tirone got the job partly because his father
was Hassan's assistant coach at Curtis High.
Murray worked with Dan at Wagner. It's a club of Dan's familiars.
I haven't seen anything that warrants a promotion for anyone.

+1

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 10 years ago

All hiring has to be approved by the affirmative action people at URI ... I don't think they're going to allow an all-white staff for basketball, and I'm sure Thorr knows that.

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 10 years ago

Nothing against any current members of the staff, but I would be extremely disappointed if Preston was replaced internally.

RoadyJay · Unread post by **RoadyJay** » 10 years ago

Tirone doesn't recruit in his current role. Murray is not focused on '14 recruits so I expect more from him next year. Carr has been in on and is in on some important recruits (Gustys, Martin, Watson)

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rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Preston told me that HE was bringing in Watson. He wanted it kept
quiet, because he felt Watson could attract attention from other schools.
He was the one showing him around the Ryan Center.
Preston also told me when Watson was working out, if I wanted to see him.
Somehow, Carr is getting credit from people like Koch, for Watson.
This is revisionism trying to suck up to current staff.
Gustys? I'd be pleasantly surprised if he comes here.

RoadyJay · Unread post by **RoadyJay** » 10 years ago

I don't see why Koch would do that. And anyway makes sense that Carr would be in on Watson as he is the bigs coach and has focused recruiting on bigs. Has Preston recruited other bigs?

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SlyWilliamsCaddy · Unread post by **SlyWilliamsCaddy** » 10 years ago

Just throwing this out there for the basis of conversation:

I agree it needs to be someone a little younger with an inner city connection and preferably of African-American descent not only for the relation aspect with potential recruits but also for the affirmative action team to approve.

That being said, I read "The Miracle of St. Anthony" so id put the percentages at .001% considering what he means to the place and vice versa; but is there any possibility that dan asks his dad to come on in some capacity? Bob is getting up there in age and may start to want to slow down a little. Prob a better shot of landing the number 1 player in the country then it actually happening and idk if dan wants his father over his shoulder but there is nobody that aau coaches fear and respect more then the old man.

Again I would like somebody younger whos really going to get after it and scour the country looking for talent but I would be intrigued if he decided to give Gansett resident and retiree Tommy Penders a call.

All in all I think its pretty obvious that were gonna end up with some 30 to 40 year old, white, bald guy.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

I think two moves need to be made on staff.
Bring in the recruiter type, and an older experienced
former head coach.
Penders would be a great idea, even if he only was around for home games.
I think he's cooled off on the program as opposed to last year, when he was
very visible. Love that guy.
As for Bob Sr., he'd have to leave Jersey City, his home for over 60 years.
He hasn't done it before. Plus, would Dan want the better coach looking over his shoulder?
Don't forget, we saw what Preston was doing, and got tired even looking at his
travel schedule.
The recruiting end of things is a young man's game. It's like an on the road salesman.
Always calls to make and people to schmooz.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

I'll take Terrell and his coach in a package deal.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 10 years ago

This thread is fun, but it may be premature.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 10 years ago

I think Preston Murphy might be a good candidate, lets give him a look!!

URI_IEP · Unread post by **URI_IEP** » 10 years ago

adam914 wrote:I think Preston Murphy might be a good candidate, lets give him a look!!

Yeah. I heard he got some good recruits at his last gig.

Cameron_Dollar · Unread post by **Cameron_Dollar** » 10 years ago

My guess is Dan already has his short list if not his guy. The way BC raided us will be the same manner in which we raid a MAAC, Colonial, NE Conference for one of their aspiring assistants. That is the Eco System of College Basketball. Preston needed to make this move furthre his coaching career. If Dan left tomorrow and Preston were still on the staff, would he be hired over Tom Moore, Steve Masiello, Pat Skerry, et al. Probabaly not. He knew that. I believe he is putting his eggs in Jim Christian's basket, excuse the pun. If the program is successful, he will have an opportunity for a low mid major or assistant at a NCAA powerhouse. He is 5-7 years away from an A10 type coaching job. Good Luck to him.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 10 years ago

Cameron_Dollar wrote:My guess is Dan already has his short list if not his guy. The way BC raided us will be the same manner in which we raid a MAAC, Colonial, NE Conference for one of their aspiring assistants. That is the Eco System of College Basketball. Preston needed to make this move furthre his coaching career. If Dan left tomorrow and Preston were still on the staff, would he be hired over Tom Moore, Steve Masiello, Pat Skerry, et al. Probabaly not. He knew that. I believe he is putting his eggs in Jim Christian's basket, excuse the pun. If the program is successful, he will have an opportunity for a low mid major or assistant at a NCAA powerhouse. He is 5-7 years away from an A10 type coaching job. Good Luck to him.

your a funny guy. but not a URI fan.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 10 years ago

Cameron_Dollar wrote:My guess is Dan already has his short list if not his guy. The way BC raided us will be the same manner in which we raid a MAAC, Colonial, NE Conference for one of their aspiring assistants. That is the Eco System of College Basketball. Preston needed to make this move furthre his coaching career. If Dan left tomorrow and Preston were still on the staff, would he be hired over Tom Moore, Steve Masiello, Pat Skerry, et al. Probabaly not. He knew that. I believe he is putting his eggs in Jim Christian's basket, excuse the pun. If the program is successful, he will have an opportunity for a low mid major or assistant at a NCAA powerhouse. He is 5-7 years away from an A10 type coaching job. Good Luck to him.

Preston Murphy would probably not be hired over Steve masiello of manhattan fame? The same guy who south Florida canned for lying on his resume that he had graduated from Kentucky?
I would take Preston Murphy today over all of those guys mentioned. Preston is top notch. Shame on URI if he gets away.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 10 years ago

What's K I J up to these days still coaching HS hoops?

(Hoping URI ponies up the dough to keep PM making this thread unneccessary)

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

I left a job once that I loved to go to a bigger firm with more resources and almost doubled my salary. I still have a great relationship with the people I worked for and with there, but there is absolutely nothing they could have done to keep me. It would have been insane for a shop of that size to pay someone in my role the amount of money I was offered at the new place, even if they all agreed I deserves it and was "worth" it.

I don't think my old employer has anything to be ashamed of, ramster, and I don't think URI does either.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 10 years ago

I just turned down a job with an increase of 40k a year because I love the job I have and the people I work with. Could the money help my family? Sure. But if I'm miserable at the new job then what?

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

Are you closer to the beginning of your career or the end?

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

theblueram wrote:I just turned down a job with an increase of 40k a year because I love the job I have and the people I work with. Could the money help my family? Sure. But if I'm miserable at the new job then what?

So is your beef with URI for not matching or with Preston for taking the job? Because my point was that URI can't realistically match the offer. If you're saying that Preston should have left the money on the table that is a completely different point, and I don't think it's for anyone else to say what he should do with his career.