Jeremiah Ingram, 6'7" F Colby CC (Offer)

[Blue Man]

VCU had 10 guys at 10+ minutes per game last year. And another averaged 9.

I see 6 averaged 20+ and 3 averaged 10+, then 1 other guy averaged 9

First, VCU uses 4 guards for most of the game. I don't see us having the talent to do that, so we'll be with 3 guards/2 forwards.

If we are to do this by VCU math...

Guards - 29.0 (EC) 28.3 (Terrell) 26.8 (Garrett) 16.3 (Buchanan) 10.6 (Minnis)

Forwards - 28.0 (Martin) 22.4 (Hare) 21.8 (Biruta) 14.5 (Watson)

You would honestly give the 8.9 minutes to JR? Not get a couple more out of these established guys?

What happens if Ingram commits?

I don't see how JR touches the floor for meaningful minutes.

[rodfromcranston]

So, in light of today's signing, what's the deal
with Butler?
TJ, Biggie, Garrett, EC and Terrell. Maybe Powell. That's five
or six guys ahead of him.

[ace]

Someone has to be 13.

Bide your time and work to get minutes later in your college career or leave, no hard feelings on either side.

[Iggy1979]

When you're walking the APR tightrope you have to try to keep everyone happy. One of the reasons they didn't take Gustys was that they didn't want to bring in three bigs (Watson, Hare, Gustys) and completely bury Iffy. Plus, the coaches think Iffy still has potential.
But, obviously, when you have the chance to bring in someone like Terrell then you take the risk of someone like Butler leaving. Hopefully, with Powell and Hare coming back/staying, Hurley has enough APR wiggle room to absorb Butler leaving, if that's what he chooses to do.

[bigappleram]

I'm with Rod, by crunch time in the season you want a solid 7-8 man rotation, with 2-3 add'l guys to go to only in case of emergency (extreme foul trouble, injuries, etc). Continuity and meshing on the court is a huge obstacle for a young team with a lot of new faces, you will hamper the development of that by shuffling in dozens of different player combinations. Use the first 10-12 games to figure out the rotation, and then give the minutes to the best 7-8 guys that prove themselves over that period. if i were a betting man i would go with EC, Hassan, Gil, Hare, Garrett, Biggie, Watson and JT as our first 8 by the time conf play rolls around.

What about Iffy, do you consider red-shirting him? He would be a prime candidate given his body and athleticism but rawness in terms of skill....but given his eligibility status is that even an option?

[ace]

No, that is not an option for Iffy.

[TruePoint]

I'm with Rod, by crunch time in the season you want a solid 7-8 man rotation, with 2-3 add'l guys to go to only in case of emergency (extreme foul trouble, injuries, etc). Continuity and meshing on the court is a huge obstacle for a young team with a lot of new faces, you will hamper the development of that by shuffling in dozens of different player combinations. Use the first 10-12 games to figure out the rotation, and then give the minutes to the best 7-8 guys that prove themselves over that period. if i were a betting man i would go with EC, Hassan, Gil, Hare, Garrett, Biggie, Watson and JT as our first 8 by the time conf play rolls around.

What about Iffy, do you consider red-shirting him? He would be a prime candidate given his body and athleticism but rawness in terms of skill....but given his eligibility status is that even an option?

I'll defer to Ace if she has the scoop, but my first thought is that they already burned a year of his eligibility in 2012-13. As it is, they will have to appeal to get that back. My guess is that the NCAA wouldn't give him a sixth year to play four; I don't even think that it is assured they will give him the fifth year to play his fourth season (although I do think that is more likely than not).

[adam914]

Plus lets not forget that these things end up having ways of working themselves out. All it takes is an injury or two and Iffy becomes very much needed.

[Billyboy78]

I was just told that that as recently as early this afternoon, they were still working on Ingram.

[ATPTourFan]

Aahhh.. there's some news on Ingram. Glad I read through all the other posts.

[ace]

I heard they're trying to see if they can raise their cap on the number of allowable J name players to 5.

And if they add Jeremiah to Jared and Jarvis, I'm calling Watson Jearl, just for the sake of class continuity.

But really? Jordan, Jared, Jarvis, Jarelle.

[Rhody74]

I heard they're trying to see if they can raise their cap on the number of allowable J name players to 5.

And if they add Jeremiah to Jared and Jarvis, I'm calling Watson Jearl, just for the sake of class continuity.

I see you've started your celebratory beers!

[ace]

I heard they're trying to see if they can raise their cap on the number of allowable J name players to 5.

And if they add Jeremiah to Jared and Jarvis, I'm calling Watson Jearl, just for the sake of class continuity.

I see you've started your celebratory beers!

Nah, I can still say Jordan, Jared, Jarvis, Jarelle without getting tripped up!

[SGreenwell]

Someone has to be 13.

Bide your time and work to get minutes later in your college career or leave, no hard feelings on either side.

Agree with this re: Butler. And although I've argued that he probably isn't going to be an All-A10 player or anything, I think his one above-average skill - 3-point shooting - is something the team could benefit from. Meaning, he should be working on improving 1) his defense and 2) his ability to shoot corner 3s. His path to playing time at URI is probably as an off-the-bench shooter, or if the program has widespread injuries in his later years.

[rams13]

Sorry if I am late on this. I realize we signed Garrett and Terrell, but why does Mike Powell's name keep coming up? Whats the deal there. I thought he was ready to leave?

[ace]

Sorry if I am late on this. I realize we signed Garrett and Terrell, but why does Mike Powell's name keep coming up? Whats the deal there. I thought he was ready to leave?

This information was made public today. There's also talk of him walking-on.

[Billyboy78]

Ingram is now on hold.

[Iggy1979]

Ingram is now on hold.

Imagine that

[rambone 78]

We'll see what happens.

Conflicting reports here.

[Billyboy78]

You won't be hearing anything anytime soon.

[ramfan85]

The Rhode Island Blue J's?

[Sweep The Leg]

The Rhode Island Blue J's?

J Crew.

[Blue Man]

Did we figure out whether or not Powell with be a scholarship or not?

[Blue Man]

Update: I guess we did. So now let's debate lineups and why mike powell is back!

[RoadyJay]

I enjoyed Koch b-slapping you BlueMan

[sf2010]

"Barring additional movement." He's a reporter, so he can't speculate or announce things that have not officially come from the University. This doesn't mean that Powell is using a scholarship, since it hasn't been announced that he's walking on or otherwise.

[ramfan85]

I miss the lod days when everything about scholarships seemed so much simler. Now it's like a soap opera. lol

[sf2010]

Surprised that there hasn't been any news on Ingram yet. Does anyone know if the 5/20 signing period deadline applies to JUCO's as well? Also, did he actually sign a LOI for SJSU? If so, that would seem to put him in the same boat as JT, who had to sign a "scholarship agreement" instead of a LOI. Does the same time frame apply to "scholarship agreements" as LOIs?

[SmartyBarrett]

SF, if I recall correctly, Watson never signed an LOI - he instead just enrolled in the University. Perhaps that's also an option for Ingram, which means that any potential "player movement" wouldn't have to be resolved by tomorrow.

EDIT: yeah, read through this page: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2357&start=100

Watson forewent singing an LOI.

[Ram Stampede!!!]

So the Powell scholarship opened up and we never heard anything new. Maybe because of the phantom recruit that is Charles Cooke? Either way we still have a slot open. I wonder if DH will save it for the future.

[Mongo]

As per Twitter.... Who else is possible? Or save it for 2015.

[twisted3829]

probably save it

[Billyboy78]

Cooke is visiting Thursday, isn't he?

[TruePoint]

I think the scholarship is "semi-open," so to speak. In other words, they could use it on the right player, but it isn't totally open.

[adam914]

Right, I'd have no problem with them holding onto it at this point unless the perfect situation presents itself.

[rodfromcranston]

GOOD!

[ramster]

To Hold or Not to Hold - great question for the Coach at the event this week

[Billyboy78]

I think it was Iggy that said that Dan regrets not using all the scholarships last year and probably would not do it again.

[TruePoint]

To Hold or Not to Hold - great question for the Coach at the event this week

It is probably worth asking about tomorrow, but I don't think the issue is really to "hold" it or not. I think the issue has more to do with APR and whether it is worth it to take the hit by moving on from a scholarship recipient before he graduates.

[ramster]

To Hold or Not to Hold - great question for the Coach at the event this week

It is probably worth asking about tomorrow, but I don't think the issue is really to "hold" it or not. I think the issue has more to do with APR and whether it is worth it to take the hit by moving on from a scholarship recipient before he graduates.

Then ask that too. Find out what the Coach really thinks - as opposed to what amounts to guessing

[TruePoint]

To Hold or Not to Hold - great question for the Coach at the event this week

It is probably worth asking about tomorrow, but I don't think the issue is really to "hold" it or not. I think the issue has more to do with APR and whether it is worth it to take the hit by moving on from a scholarship recipient before he graduates.

Then ask that too. Find out what the Coach really thinks - as opposed to what amounts to guessing

Why don't you write him a damn letter instead of telling other people what to talk about?

[ramster]

Why don't you write him a damn letter instead of telling other people what to talk about?

Because I will not be there this week. I admit I am not as smart as you as I admit I don't know everything about everything. I'd ask you to ask him my question but then it would come across as condescending - I do know that much.

[bressler3south]

I DO KNOW THIS, RAMSTER…….UH. I forgot what I was going to write about. Yeah, you know. Whatever it was, just ask a question and if you don't, well….JEEZ, I KEEP FORGETTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Running Ram]

It is probably worth asking about tomorrow, but I don't think the issue is really to "hold" it or not. I think the issue has more to do with APR and whether it is worth it to take the hit by moving on from a scholarship recipient before he graduates.

Then ask that too. Find out what the Coach really thinks - as opposed to what amounts to guessing

Why don't you write him a damn letter instead of telling other people what to talk about?

Wow! Whaaaat????

[bressler3south]

RAMSTER: I now remember what it was!!!!!!!! If you were going and I couldn't attend, and I had a question for you to ask on my behalf, I'm sure that you'd graciously ask it on my behalf……
And I'd THANK YOU VERY MUCH…

[ramster]

RAMSTER: I now remember what it was!!!!!!!! If you were going and I couldn't attend, and I had a question for you to ask on my behalf, I'm sure that you'd graciously ask it on my behalf……
And I'd THANK YOU VERY MUCH…

Bressler,
I would not expect your or TP to provide me with any questions for the Coach because both of you know everything anyway.
So the point is moot.
If by chance you did have a question for the Head Coach would you include all of your childish emoticons with your email to him?

[bressler3south]

RAMSTER: I now remember what it was!!!!!!!! If you were going and I couldn't attend, and I had a question for you to ask on my behalf, I'm sure that you'd graciously ask it on my behalf……
And I'd THANK YOU VERY MUCH…

Bressler,
I would not expect your or TP to provide me with any questions for the Coach because both of you know everything anyway.
So the point is moot.
If by chance you did have a question for the Head Coach would you include all of your childish emoticons with your email to him?

RAMSTER………My comments were in SUPPORT OF YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You were treated like garbage, as far as I was concerned. (Childish emoticons and all.)
P.S. I don't e-mail Coach Hurley. P.P.S. I don't have "Emoticon Enabled E-Mail" anyway.
P.P.P.S. I neither know everything, nor much of anything, Ramster. That's why I read KeaneyBlue.

[TruePoint]

I think it's a little melodramatic to say ramster was treated like garbage. He was treated like someone being a little unreasonable. I tried to help shed a little light on the scholarship situation. Ramster didn't like the information (I guess? Not really too sure what his issue actually was). But the bigger point is that the event tonight is not an interrogation. I'm not going to be peppering people with questions and demanding a certain degree of detail in response, especially to questions that I think I already know the answer to. Also, I'm not a reporter. It isn't my job to get information for people. I was serious about that: if you think the coach will answer your question and you really want to know, email him.

[rodfromcranston]

"But the bigger point is that the event tonight is not an interrogation. "

WHAT? I was prepared to water board people tonight, to get answers!
Failing that, I have jumper cables ready.
If all else fails, my number one backup for getting information is showing them my
Donald Sterling sex tape or the disgustingly gross ending to the last episode of
Game of Thrones.

[Iggy1979]

I think it was Iggy that said that Dan regrets not using all the scholarships last year and probably would not do it again.

Leaving it open doesn't hurt the APR but it doesn't help it either. Makes more sense to bring in a fifth-year transfer who you know will do well in the classroom. Also gives you some depth in case you have injuries or other problems. I think that's the way they go if they don't get Cooke.