Jeremiah Ingram, 6'7" F Colby CC (Offer)

[ramfan85]

Isn't it difficult to transfer into a Catholic school (unless the student is already in one) because of the religious courses required to graduate?

[bressler3south]

Isn't it difficult to transfer into a Catholic school (unless the student is already in one) because of the religious courses required to graduate?

Oh, my God!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rambone 78]

Looks like Ingram's recruitment has joined Terrell's in terms of news.

In other words, both have fallen into a black hole.

Crickets.

Something's gotta give here soon. 5 days left.

[Iggy1979]

Does URI want both Terrell and Ingram, or are they both wings so they only want one?

[sf2010]

IIRC, someone associated with the program (could have been Hurley) said that once it became clear that Hare was returning, the recruiting focus shifted to wing/guard. I would imagine that we have a spot for both of them.

[rodfromcranston]

I never saw it as an either/or situation. One is more of an inside player, whereas Terrell
is a pure guard.

[rambone 78]

I would agree with that, Rod. I don't think Terrell is holding up Ingram's decision.

Of course, there might be someone else in the wings. Not that we would know of course.

Trying to find out anything of substance going on with recruiting right now, is like trying to open a big quahog with your fingers.

Not going to happen.

[Iggy1979]

I never saw it as an either/or situation. One is more of an inside player, whereas Terrell
is a pure guard.

Different games but same position: third guard or small forward. Hurley is trying to sell JT that he would be the third guard in a 3-guard offense. If Hurley takes a SF, we can say goodbye to JT, who already showed at OK St. that he's very aware of who else plays his position.
I think Ingram recruitment is being held up until JT makes a decision.

[rodfromcranston]

If Terrell doesn't think he could beat out a juco who can't shoot.
he's got problems.

[rambone 78]

It would be nice to have options. SF or 3rd guard, whatever.

Unless JR improves dramatically, there's a hole that needs to be filled.

I don't have confidence that he will, either.

[sf2010]

JT is being told he'll be a starter at guard along with EC/unnamed point guard. I see Ingram as being competition for Jarelle. I don't think a commitment from Ingram removes us from Terrell's consideration.

[rodfromcranston]

Exactly!

[Iggy1979]

JT is being told he'll be a starter at guard along with EC/unnamed point guard. I see Ingram as being competition for Jarelle. I don't think a commitment from Ingram removes us from Terrell's consideration.

Sorry, but this makes no sense. Whether you it call it the third guard or SF, Terrell, Ingram and Jarelle would be competing with each other for minutes. None of them are going to play the 4 or 5 over the options Hurley has.

[rodfromcranston]

I see it as Reischel and Ingram competing for the first off the bench spot.
Terrell getting starter's minutes.

[sf2010]

Sorry, but this makes no sense. Whether you it call it the third guard or SF, Terrell, Ingram and Jarelle would be competing with each other for minutes. None of them are going to play the 4 or 5 over the options Hurley has.

Jarelle is not going to be a starter next year, unless he improves drastically over the summer and we whiff on Terrell. Ingram/Jarelle would back up Hassan/Gil in the front court if we went with a small lineup, or replace one of the guards in a bigger lineup, but both of them would be off the bench and not receiving the sort of minutes that are being promised to Terrell.

[ramfan85]

I'd like to know what Dan knows about this situation. He's got to have some idea of what's going on with these recruits.
If JT is looking for a written guarantee that a school will never recruit another guard while he's there, he could be looking for a long time.

[SmartyBarrett]

Interesting note here:

[rodfromcranston]

Well, since it's public, Powell is said to be coming back as a
walk-on.
This is clearly a win-win. It will help the APR, and gives Dan
a PG who started for two and a half years.
Great move.

[Rhody74]

Well, since it's public, Powell is said to be coming back as a
walk-on.
This is clearly a win-win. It will help the APR, and gives Dan
a PG who started for two and a half years.
Great move.

If he comes back as a walk-on, wouldn't that free his scholarship?

[rodfromcranston]

Yes, supposedly he's found his own financing for next year.

[Rhody74]

Wow, talk about an attitude adjustment .... not that he had many alternatives if he wanted to play.

[Running Ram]

About Powell, Good!! I hope he does come back on a walk-on basis. I know nothing about his situation, but to me it wreaks of Sr. interference, and I'm not condemning any involved father that thinks he knows best, we all think we know best and some of us live to be ripe and old before we realize when to back off and let our loved ones live for themselves as they've been raised. Even if I'm completely off base, I'd be glad to have him back for team solidarity reasons and better competition all around makes for better game play, I'm happy to consider Powell a member of the fRamily! Stay with us Mike, it's going to be some fun! (and a lot of hard work as you know, but nothing beats team success! it's a feeling you can't achieve solo).

[Billyboy78]

So, if Powell is back on scholarship, Ingram is out.

[rodfromcranston]

Would seem so.

[RoadyJay]

That seems to be the case billy... Bill Koch mentioned that since Powell has last open scholly that unless there is any other player movement that URI would be done with recruiting

[Iggy1979]

We have conflicting reports here. Koch says scholarship and doesn't mention him rejoining the team; Rod says rejoining the team as a walk-on

[Blue Man]

So, if Powell is back on scholarship, Ingram is out.

Now this is just depressing.

Why.

Why God WHY

[RoadyJay]

[Blue Man]

So, if Powell is back on scholarship, Ingram is out.

[Blue Man]

Not that Ingram is some Terrell-like stud - but the 6'7 wing that we do not know is A BAGILLION TIMES BETTER THAN THE MIKE POWELL OR JARELLE REISCHEL THAT WE DO

[sf2010]

Haha oh man Blue Man you have so many emotions going on right now.

Let's just hope that this works out the way Rod said it might...

[RoadyJay]

You're underestimating Reischel. I'm not. He played well under his abilities last year, that I agree. But I expect you'll see a different player next season

[Blue Man]

You're underestimating Reischel. I'm not. He played well under his abilities last year, that I agree. But I expect you'll see a different player next season

I was more deserving of an academic scholarship than Reischel is of a basketball one and I graduated with a 2.38.

I'm not underestimating. I was 91% accurate in my assessments of JR when he got the ball in his hand on the court this year. Whether it was "dumb pass, dumb turnover, miss layup, miss shot, not look for pass, be in the wrong place, miss assignment" - whatever it was, if I can predict something terrible that's not under expectations, those are my expectations.

My expectations were for him to suck. He was actually a negative impact on the court when he was out there. He couldn't even meet those expectations.

That being said - this is the deepest, most talented team URI has had in well over a decade. JR, Powell and Matt Butler can party on the end of the bench.

[Running Ram]

I believe JR's contributions will be affective and while he may not end up being some star or even a true glue guy, lets see how things go with a full roster of quality players playing their preferred positions. I think JR did show some potential, but was a bit timid and slow to make the good decision at times, he was pressed into service often out of position. He's going into his junior season and its all hands on deck.

[ramster]

You're underestimating Reischel. I'm not. He played well under his abilities last year, that I agree. But I expect you'll see a different player next season

I was more deserving of an academic scholarship than Reischel is of a basketball one and I graduated with a 2.38.

I'm not underestimating. I was 91% accurate in my assessments of JR when he got the ball in his hand on the court this year. Whether it was "dumb pass, dumb turnover, miss layup, miss shot, not look for pass, be in the wrong place, miss assignment" - whatever it was, if I can predict something terrible that's not under expectations, those are my expectations.

My expectations were for him to suck. He was actually a negative impact on the court when he was out there. He couldn't even meet those expectations.

That being said - this is the deepest, most talented team URI has had in well over a decade. JR, Powell and Matt Butler can party on the end of the bench.

Agree 100% with you BlueMan. I do not expect to see a different JR next year - I have no reason to expect any difference other than marginally better. His potential for playing time took a big hit with the addition of Hare and Terrell.

[RoadyJay]

ramster/BlueMan

I think you're both underestimating the change in style of play.. You'll see a much more up tempo style compared to the last two years compared. That means more players getting more minutes and very few players, if any, much over 30 mins per game. Think VCU.

This will mean that JR will see the floor and get ~15 minutes game

[ramster]

ramster/BlueMan

I think you're both underestimating the change in style of play.. You'll see a much more up tempo style compared to the last two years compared. That means more players getting more minutes and very few players, if any, much over 30 mins per game. Think VCU.

This will mean that JR will see the floor and get ~15 minutes game

Roady,
EC Mathews averaged 36.0 minutes per game in the 16 A10 games last year. I would be very, very surprised and disappointed if EC gets only 30 minutes per game this year as you say. I would hope he plays more than the 36 of last year.
JR may get 15 but those are going to be a tough 15 minutes to wrestle away from the likes of Biruta, Hare, Martin, Mathews, Buchanan, Garrett, Terrell, Minnis....................
Let the battle for Minutes begin.
Competition is a wonderful thing.

[TruePoint]

ramster/BlueMan

I think you're both underestimating the change in style of play.. You'll see a much more up tempo style compared to the last two years compared. That means more players getting more minutes and very few players, if any, much over 30 mins per game. Think VCU.

This will mean that JR will see the floor and get ~15 minutes game

Roady,
EC Mathews averaged 36.0 minutes per game in the 16 A10 games last year. I would be very, very surprised and disappointed if EC gets only 30 minutes per game this year as you say. I would hope he plays more than the 36 of last year.
JR may get 15 but those are going to be a tough 15 minutes to wrestle away from the likes of Biruta, Hare, Martin, Mathews, Buchanan, Garrett, Terrell, Minnis....................
Let the battle for Minutes begin.
Competition is a wonderful thing.

He was playing 36 minutes a game out of necessity because we had games where we only really had six players available. I think most coaches would rather get 30 good minutes out of a guy than 25 good minutes and 10 minutes where the guy is hunched over pulling on his shorts every chance he gets. Having the kind of depth that will allow them to play 10-11 guys a night (if necessary) will mean less guys playing nearly the whole game.

[rodfromcranston]

No way EC and Hassan only get 25 minutes a game.
Those guys will be in most of the game, except for Doug McDermott type rests.
Terrell should eventually be in that category.
No good teams win with Chinese fire drills. VCU when they
were forced to go half court, died against an iniferior foe.
You need continuity on offense and defense. Can't do that
running people around like hockey shifts.

[RoadyJay]

Look at VCU and tell me how many averaged over 30 min per game last year. I think you'll see similar numbers from our guys next year.

[Blue Man]

ramster/BlueMan

I think you're both underestimating the change in style of play.. You'll see a much more up tempo style compared to the last two years compared. That means more players getting more minutes and very few players, if any, much over 30 mins per game. Think VCU.

This will mean that JR will see the floor and get ~15 minutes game

Roady,
EC Mathews averaged 36.0 minutes per game in the 16 A10 games last year. I would be very, very surprised and disappointed if EC gets only 30 minutes per game this year as you say. I would hope he plays more than the 36 of last year.
JR may get 15 but those are going to be a tough 15 minutes to wrestle away from the likes of Biruta, Hare, Martin, Mathews, Buchanan, Garrett, Terrell, Minnis....................
Let the battle for Minutes begin.
Competition is a wonderful thing.

VCU plays 10 guys AT MOST. Even that is rare. For the most part they play 8. Say that it's 9 on average -

From this rotation of players:

Matthews, Martin, Terrell, Hare, Garrett, Biruta, Watson, Buchanan, Minnis...

Who do you take out for Reischel?

We know we're playing a 3 guard lineup. No way does an uptempo style mean that EC takes LESS minutes this year. Certainly not so few minutes that we need JR to step in to provide that key-turnover or key-missed shot spark to force us to dig deep and come back.

[TruePoint]

No way EC and Hassan only get 25 minutes a game.
Those guys will be in most of the game, except for Doug McDermott type rests.
Terrell should eventually be in that category.
No good teams win with Chinese fire drills. VCU when they
were forced to go half court, died against an iniferior foe.
You need continuity on offense and defense. Can't do that
running people around like hockey shifts.

I agree. Not sure if your mentioning 25 minutes was in response to me, but if it was you misunderstood what I was saying. I think you should expect to see our best players playing just over 30 minutes per game, probably closer to 32-33 minutes than 30. I just think at some point you reach diminishing returns with minutes for a player. That point is different for each guy, probably, but in any case I think playing guys 36-37 minutes a night you are risking not having good legs at crunch time.

[RoadyJay]

VCU had 10 guys at 10+ minutes per game last year. And another averaged 9.

[RoadyJay]

It's not about taking away minutes from guys. But with this style guys will need rest and I believe Reischel is going to see the floor regularly.

[rodfromcranston]

Wasn't aiming at you, TP. I agree with your views on playing time.
As for who finishes the game being more important than who
starts, some guy named Auerbach said that.
I don't see Dan's offense ever being VCU like. VCU's half court
is nothing special.
They rely on harum scarum defensive disruption, which needs fresh legs.
Different styles.

[RoadyJay]

I agree we haven't played that style and vcu's half court was deficient. But we will be closer to that style than our current style

[ramster]

Wasn't aiming at you, TP. I agree with your views on playing time.
As for who finishes the game being more important than who
starts, some guy named Auerbach said that.
I don't see Dan's offense ever being VCU like. VCU's half court
is nothing special.
They rely on harum scarum defensive disruption, which needs fresh legs.
Different styles.

Sure Red Auerbach said it, that was not my point of whether it is more important show starts games or who finishes games - I will agree with you and Red Aurebach that it is more important who finishes games.

My point was that who starts is important to the players themselves - my point was that every kid on the team most definitely wants to start and is obsessed with starting. Every kid in that locker room wants to hear their name called by the Head Coach when he says who will be starting tonight. No kid in that room smiles and is happy to be the 6th man.

[Rhody74]

Here are the conference minutes per game from last season (minus the walkons):

• Munford - 37.3
  Matthews - 36.2
  Biruta - 26.9
  Martin - 32.8
  Buchanan - 30.6
  Reischel - 19.9
  Minnis - 12.2
  Onyekaba - 9.6
  Butler - 6.0

I think Onyekaba and Butler will remain about the same or less, Reischel will go down to 10-12 mins per game and Biruta will remain the same. If Minnis still has scoring struggles, I don't see how he can get more minutes either. TJ will certainly see significantly less playing time. So Munford's minutes will be split mostly between Terrell and Garrett. Matthews may go down slightly so he gets a little bit of rest, especially if we're more uptempo. Watson and Hare will probably go about 15 min. each. So we're talking about:

• Matthews 30
  Biruta 25
  Martin 30
  Buchanan 15
  Reischel 10
  Minnis 10
  Onyekaba 5
  Butler 5
  Powell 5
  Garrett 15
  Terrell 20
  Watson 15
  Hare 15
  Total 200

If everyone stays healthy, competition for playing time is going to be brutal.

[Iggy1979]

I see Hare has a high-impact 15-minute player.

[Iggy1979]

Here are the conference minutes per game from last season (minus the walkons):

• Munford - 37.3
  Matthews - 36.2
  Biruta - 26.9
  Martin - 32.8
  Buchanan - 30.6
  Reischel - 19.9
  Minnis - 12.2
  Onyekaba - 9.6
  Butler - 6.0

I think Onyekaba and Butler will remain about the same or less, Reischel will go down to 10-12 mins per game and Biruta will remain the same. If Minnis still has scoring struggles, I don't see how he can get more minutes either. TJ will certainly see significantly less playing time. So Munford's minutes will be split mostly between Terrell and Garrett. Matthews may go down slightly so he gets a little bit of rest, especially if we're more uptempo. Watson and Hare will probably go about 15 min. each. So we're talking about:

• Matthews 30
  Biruta 25
  Martin 30
  Buchanan 15
  Reischel 10
  Minnis 10
  Onyekaba 5
  Butler 5
  Powell 5
  Garrett 15
  Terrell 20
  Watson 15
  Hare 15
  Total 200

If everyone stays healthy, competition for playing time is going to be brutal.

Give Powell and Butler's minutes to Minnis.