Jeremiah Ingram, 6'7" F Colby CC (Offer)

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

Am I missing some pages in this thread? The first post I see is from January of this year.

McRam · Unread post by **McRam** » 10 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:For those who like to try to interpret twitter stuff.....who did Jeremiah Ingram start following
today?........Jared Terrell.

Wish it was other way!

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

My post that began this thread was Sept.30,2013.

Well, Terrell does follow Garrett, Martin, Rieschel, Minnis, and X

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

Check out his numbers for this game. The opponent was one of the top JC teams in the country, including Kadeem Alllen, JC player of the year, who is going to Arizona....

http://stats.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2013 ... 1_81zh.xml

McRam · Unread post by **McRam** » 10 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:Check out his numbers for this game. The opponent was one of the top JC teams in the country, including Kadeem Alllen, JC player of the year, who is going to Arizona....

http://stats.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2013 ... 1_81zh.xml

Magic!

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 10 years ago

Certainly rose to the occasion.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

Wasn't sure if he was a good fit for us not too long ago, but it's looking better and better.

He doesn't need to shoot a ton of 3's for us, that's not his strength.

He can score, rebound, and shoot FT's. Good enough for me. Hope we get good news on him this week.

RoadyJay · Unread post by **RoadyJay** » 10 years ago

Looks like we're going to be doing a lot of attacking the rim with the players on this roster. Ingram and Terrell included.

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sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 10 years ago

We can definitely use more talent on the wing. Sounds like Ingrahm could push Jarelle, and hopefully we'd get the best out of both of them. 6'7" helps as well, long athletes make for excitement and disruption on the defensive end, hopefully he could add rebounding as well from the wing.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 10 years ago

His team went 9-23 for the season and lost their last 17 consecutive games.
19.9 ppt
8.7 rebounds per game
45% FG
29% 3 pointers
71% FT
Besides Cincinnati who are the other teams involved with him?

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 10 years ago

Forget the stats of these JC guys. Except for maybe 3pt% and FT%. Some great JC transfers score 10ppg on loaded teams. Some horrible ones score 30ppg playing against terrible comp. Just hope the staff nailed the evaluation.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 10 years ago

Gonebarongone wrote:Forget the stats of these JC guys. Except for maybe 3pt% and FT%. Some great JC transfers score 10ppg on loaded teams. Some horrible ones score 30ppg playing against terrible comp. Just hope the staff nailed the evaluation.

Agree on the points and rebounds per game.
Can't hide from the 3 point and ft stats

BFC · Unread post by **BFC** » 10 years ago

http://247sports.com/Player/Jeremiah-Ingram-37263

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

FWIW, Preston told me Ingrahm would help us.

RoadyJay · Unread post by **RoadyJay** » 10 years ago

The one thing I feel bad about with this kid is that none of us can get his name right... myself included...

It's Ingram.. not Igrahm..

If we are going to land him let's get his name right. Can we change the title of this threat?

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 10 years ago

Gonebarongone wrote:Forget the stats of these JC guys. Except for maybe 3pt% and FT%. Some great JC transfers score 10ppg on loaded teams. Some horrible ones score 30ppg playing against terrible comp. Just hope the staff nailed the evaluation.

Not to mention that I know for a fact sometimes these JC teams inflate their stats to help guys out. Not saying its been done here because I have no idea, but I do know of other situations where it has been done.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 10 years ago

adam914 wrote:
Gonebarongone wrote:Forget the stats of these JC guys. Except for maybe 3pt% and FT%. Some great JC transfers score 10ppg on loaded teams. Some horrible ones score 30ppg playing against terrible comp. Just hope the staff nailed the evaluation.
Not to mention that I know for a fact sometimes these JC teams inflate their stats to help guys out. Not saying its been done here because I have no idea, but I do know of other situations where it has been done.

These stats are straight from the NJCAA Website. http://stats.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2013 ... iew=lineup
Don't think they are inflated. I would hope that his 29% 3 point percentage is not inflated

Interesting that this blogspot has numerous quotes from our own KeaneyBlue.

http://spartanroundball.blogspot.com/

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 10 years ago

Ramster, what I am saying is the coaches/schools inflate the stats during the games, before they are even reported to the conference or anywhere else. Trust me, it happens.

Again, I have no inside knowledge to suggest it is happening here, just making more of a general statement on JC stats.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 10 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:Was just told that Ingram will take one more visit this week. He's down to URI and that school. Ingram and his mom both loved URI. He said Ingram is a good ball handler. That's why he can play on the perimeter. He thinks he will play 3/4 rather than 2/3 at the division 1 level. He's more of a slasher than a shooter. He also said he's a freakish athlete and rebounding is a strength. He's likely to come here. Same person also told me that he still thinks URI is in the driver's seat for Terrell, although he's not as close to that situation as he is to Ingram's.

Billy,
Did he make the other visit yet? Which school is he visiting?

Running Ram · Unread post by **Running Ram** » 10 years ago

I'm sure by 'inflated' stats you mean coaches allow certain players to run up the score, playing longer than the team needs in a win or a loss, and that's it. Lets not start the general accusations about JC coaches fudging numbers.

RoadyJay · Unread post by **RoadyJay** » 10 years ago

The stats are a bit spotty. If you look at the list of individual games there are 5 games with no stats. There are others with partial stats... Pointe but not minutes, etc.

At the end of the day though we know he can score it and rebound it. Not a great outside threat.

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adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 10 years ago

Yeah, I'll drop it because I don't want to continue to make it sound like any of this applies to Ingrahm, because it does not.

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 10 years ago

Running Ram wrote:I'm sure by 'inflated' stats you mean coaches allow certain players to run up the score, playing longer than the team needs in a win or a loss, and that's it. Lets not start the general accusations about JC coaches fudging numbers.

That's the way I read it, too.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Hey Adam, you spelled his name wrong! Shame on you!

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 10 years ago

Personally, I always wait until they commit before I concern myself with spelling.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

I remember Hurley asking me about a juco they considered recruiting's program,
who I'd seen a few times.
He asked,"Is it a shit show?"
He worried about some "wild man" coming in and hijacking the offense.
Some jucos are good fits, like X, and some have really bad basketball
habits.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

ramobviouslyer wrote:
Billyboy78 wrote:Was just told that Ingram will take one more visit this week. He's down to URI and that school. Ingram and his mom both loved URI. He said Ingram is a good ball handler. That's why he can play on the perimeter. He thinks he will play 3/4 rather than 2/3 at the division 1 level. He's more of a slasher than a shooter. He also said he's a freakish athlete and rebounding is a strength. He's likely to come here. Same person also told me that he still thinks URI is in the driver's seat for Terrell, although he's not as close to that situation as he is to Ingram's.
Billy,
Did he make the other visit yet? Which school is he visiting?

He's supposed to be visiting a school in NC some time this week, not NC,NC St, Duke, obviously. I'm not sure which one though.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 10 years ago

NCA&T?

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

Iggy1979 wrote:NCA&T?

There are a lot of them.

RIFan · Unread post by **RIFan** » 10 years ago

He seems like he could play a good role on this team...but I keep thinking that if he was really any good BC (Preston) would be after him too.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

RIFan wrote:He seems like he could play a good role on this team...but I keep thinking that if he was really any good BC (Preston) would be after him too.

eli#10 · Unread post by **eli#10** » 10 years ago

Does BC take jucos???

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Preston DID recruit him. FOR URI!

McRam · Unread post by **McRam** » 10 years ago

eli#10 wrote:Does BC take jucos???

How many stars?

RIFan · Unread post by **RIFan** » 10 years ago

I know Preston recruited him for URI...are you saying that means he can't go after an unsigned kid who he recruited for another school if he thinks he could help his new school? Maybe BC Doesn't take JUCOs. And it's as simple as that.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

RIFan wrote:I know Preston recruited him for URI...are you saying that means he can't go after an unsigned kid who he recruited for another school if he thinks he could help his new school?

I'm pretty sure he is...

RIFan · Unread post by **RIFan** » 10 years ago

I know he is...that's why I didn't understand why he wouldn't recruit Ingram if he thought he could help BC. He's good enough for us but not them.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

RIFan wrote:I know he is...that's why I didn't understand why he wouldn't recruit Ingram if he thought he could help BC. He's good enough for us but not them.

Terrell's on a whole different level.

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 10 years ago

If he could help them, pm would recruit him. Murphy doesn't care who we get or don't.

RIFan · Unread post by **RIFan** » 10 years ago

I would expect Preston to try and recruit anyone he had been recruiting at URI that he thought could help BC. I just find it odd that he would tell us he would be a help here, but then not for a team that obviously needs a lot of help in BC. It may be a recruiting philosophy with the BC staff...who really knows.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Funny, last week, Preston told me this kid was visiting and that he could help URI.
So where does this crap about him not caring, come from? People
shouldn't draw conclusions, when they don't know what they're talking about.
When was the last time BC took a juco? They're not looking for a quick fix.
They're looking to rebuild with four year players.

RIFan · Unread post by **RIFan** » 10 years ago

That may very we'll be it...just not looking at JUCOs...end of story.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

Could he even get into BC if they wanted him and were willing to take JUCOs? I know nothing about the kid, so I'm not saying anything about him. It just doesn't make any sense to make surface-level assumptions like BC isn't recruiting him, so therefore....

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

Supposedly has a 3.0 at Colby...don't know about SATs.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

It's more complicated that that.
BC is a school which won't automatically take every course
from a junior college as being equal to a similar course taught at BC.
It's not a sports question, it's an academic one.
Ever hear of a juco student transferring to Brown, for instance?
BC goes back into high school records and even though Ingram may have
gotten a 3.0 this year, BC wants SAT/ACT scored and high school transcripts.
This guy went juco probably for non basketball reasons.

This from the BC Admissions site:

The Committee on Transfer Admission reviews each application individually. Primary emphasis is placed on the college record. However, SAT and/or ACT test scores, high school record, essays, recommendations, activities, and work experience are also critical components of the application. In recent years, students most successful in the transfer admission process had very strong records from both high school and college.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

Yeah, I'm not going to speculate about the kid's academic record, but I will say that generally GPA in a vacuum is close to meaningless. I know Notre Dame doesn't take JUCOs because they straight will not take any credits from a junior college.

Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 10 years ago

I don't know about the Ingram situation, but BC does have a reputation of being limited by the admissions policy.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

While we're waiting for Terrell, we should know about Ingram in the next few days.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 10 years ago

TruePoint wrote:Yeah, I'm not going to speculate about the kid's academic record, but I will say that generally GPA in a vacuum is close to meaningless. I know Notre Dame doesn't take JUCOs because they straight will not take any credits from a junior college.

Didn't RUDY go to a junior college and transfer in his junior year????

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

He went to a Notre Dame affiliated school (holy cross) which is a four year school. At least it is now. Maybe it wasn't then, but in any case it is specifically designed to get students into ND.

(This Holy Cross is in Notre Dame, it's not the one in Worcester)