needless to say - this was not me...
hard pass
this is a ponzi scheme
How?ElmCityRhody wrote: ↑2 months ago
needless to say - this was not me...
hard pass
this is a ponzi scheme
We might have to make an exclusive Keaney blue member forum for the NIL contributors only. LolBlue Man wrote: ↑2 months agoHow?ElmCityRhody wrote: ↑2 months ago
needless to say - this was not me...
hard pass
this is a ponzi scheme
If you want to get good players, this is how you get good players.
You certainly don't have to donate, you certainly don't have to buy in.
For everyone that doesn't want to jump into it, just don't whine about the quality of the players we have and how many games we win or lose.
This is the inflection point for the changes in college basketball. Whining about having to pay players is no different than people who whined about donating to help us build better facilities. That was no different than people who complained that they added a 3 point line.
The game has changed, get with it or don't. But complaining about anything from this point forward if you're not willing to help us win in this arena is illogical and pointless.
Blue Man wrote: ↑2 months agoHow?ElmCityRhody wrote: ↑2 months ago
needless to say - this was not me...
hard pass
this is a ponzi scheme
If you want to get good players, this is how you get good players.
You certainly don't have to donate, you certainly don't have to buy in.
For everyone that doesn't want to jump into it, just don't whine about the quality of the players we have and how many games we win or lose.
This is the inflection point for the changes in college basketball. Whining about having to pay players is no different than people who whined about donating to help us build better facilities. That was no different than people who complained that they added a 3 point line.
The game has changed, get with it or don't. But complaining about anything from this point forward if you're not willing to help us win in this arena is illogical and pointless.
I don't really agree Blue Man even though I do donate to the University and joined the Collective.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 months agoHow?ElmCityRhody wrote: ↑2 months ago
needless to say - this was not me...
hard pass
this is a ponzi scheme
If you want to get good players, this is how you get good players.
You certainly don't have to donate, you certainly don't have to buy in.
For everyone that doesn't want to jump into it, just don't whine about the quality of the players we have and how many games we win or lose.
This is the inflection point for the changes in college basketball. Whining about having to pay players is no different than people who whined about donating to help us build better facilities. That was no different than people who complained that they added a 3 point line.
The game has changed, get with it or don't. But complaining about anything from this point forward if you're not willing to help us win in this arena is illogical and pointless.
I don't think it's a ponzi scheme, but we have to pay taxes, buy tickets, buy concessions, buy a 50/50 ticket, make a donation to the athletic dept, AND pay the players.ElmCityRhody wrote: ↑2 months agoBlue Man wrote: ↑2 months agoHow?ElmCityRhody wrote: ↑2 months ago
needless to say - this was not me...
hard pass
this is a ponzi scheme
If you want to get good players, this is how you get good players.
You certainly don't have to donate, you certainly don't have to buy in.
For everyone that doesn't want to jump into it, just don't whine about the quality of the players we have and how many games we win or lose.
This is the inflection point for the changes in college basketball. Whining about having to pay players is no different than people who whined about donating to help us build better facilities. That was no different than people who complained that they added a 3 point line.
The game has changed, get with it or don't. But complaining about anything from this point forward if you're not willing to help us win in this arena is illogical and pointless.
i understand your point and it makes perfect sense
respectfully i disagree.. which isn't often with you since you are about the #1 poster I enjoy reading
i get your point tho - and i will whine - and i can see how you can say that i don't have that right to whine
the issue i see is paying year after year for player turnover
if they committed to staying at URI, then I would more easily buy in
using EC Mathews as an example.. say i pay $x dollars to get a player like that...
then he leaves...
then that is no return on my investment
i will always root and complain about URI.. and will always bleed keaney blue forever
as for the rest of you. please.. by all means.. donate big time so I can watch a winner for once !
prediction for next year when i am complaining.. "well, you didn't pay any money so that is why we suck"..
just telling the truth above..
i think one can remain a big college hoops fan and decide to not pay a player at the same time
how did I forget the merch??Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 months ago Between football and basketball season tickets, I spend 800 dollars a year. Add concession and merch, a conservative estimate would be that I''m spending about 1000 dollars per year, about 83 dollars per month on the average. Retirees don't have the income they once had. So, when I retired, I apparently also gave up my right to complain.
Concession and merch is $200 a year? You are pretty frugal . The wife and I get 2 beers each game at the Alumni Lounge at $10 a pop. Over 15 games, that's $600 .Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 months ago Between football and basketball season tickets, I spend 800 dollars a year. Add concession and merch, a conservative estimate would be that I''m spending about 1000 dollars per year, about 83 dollars per month on the average. Retirees don't have the income they once had. So, when I retired, I apparently also gave up my right to complain.
This guy said ponzi schemeElmCityRhody wrote: ↑2 months ago
needless to say - this was not me...
hard pass
this is a ponzi scheme
Have to buy 50/50? Not at all.KeaneyBluBallz wrote: ↑2 months agoI don't think it's a ponzi scheme, but we have to pay taxes, buy tickets, buy concessions, buy a 50/50 ticket, make a donation to the athletic dept, AND pay the players.ElmCityRhody wrote: ↑2 months agoBlue Man wrote: ↑2 months ago
How?
If you want to get good players, this is how you get good players.
You certainly don't have to donate, you certainly don't have to buy in.
For everyone that doesn't want to jump into it, just don't whine about the quality of the players we have and how many games we win or lose.
This is the inflection point for the changes in college basketball. Whining about having to pay players is no different than people who whined about donating to help us build better facilities. That was no different than people who complained that they added a 3 point line.
The game has changed, get with it or don't. But complaining about anything from this point forward if you're not willing to help us win in this arena is illogical and pointless.
i understand your point and it makes perfect sense
respectfully i disagree.. which isn't often with you since you are about the #1 poster I enjoy reading
i get your point tho - and i will whine - and i can see how you can say that i don't have that right to whine
the issue i see is paying year after year for player turnover
if they committed to staying at URI, then I would more easily buy in
using EC Mathews as an example.. say i pay $x dollars to get a player like that...
then he leaves...
then that is no return on my investment
i will always root and complain about URI.. and will always bleed keaney blue forever
as for the rest of you. please.. by all means.. donate big time so I can watch a winner for once !
prediction for next year when i am complaining.. "well, you didn't pay any money so that is why we suck"..
just telling the truth above..
i think one can remain a big college hoops fan and decide to not pay a player at the same time
I don't think the juice just is worth the squeeze.
Yep, you could find people saying almost exactly the same "iT rUiNed tHe gaMe" stuff back when the 3 point line was added, when freshman were allowed to play, when players were allowed to leave school early, and on and on and on. Yet here we all are!
Not the same. None of those examples begged fans for money to pay players.
It is the same in that it was something new introduced that a lot of people said would ruin the game, and it didn't. I don't think this will either. I'm not even convinced NIL will be the final form this whole thing takes in the end, so it may not even be in place long enough to ruin it.RI_Bred wrote: ↑2 months agoNot the same. None of those examples begged fans for money to pay players.
Yeah I have quite a few friends that have joined or donated (at URI and other schools). And in most cases they were people who did not donate to athletics before NIL either.RIFan wrote: ↑2 months ago I’d be interested to know if your friends, family or colleagues who are pretty interested in their college and how they do are joining their collective? In my small circle of obvious cheapskates not a one has joined or donated to their schools collective, in fact my close friends that are uri alums outside of those here on the board have not donated and think it’s horrible. That is my highly unscientific survey results.
Stop that now
It's not just no return....it:s absolutely no return ev-er. Do fund raisers...Maybe $500 plate dinners with Arch or something.... anything.... otherwise you're just dumping whatever you can afford, hoping other people do too and that it makes a difference. I hate this, it's like begging me to pay more, for the same thing I'm already getting.... Let's say I put 10 large into it and we get to the semi-finals of the A10...then what? Throw $20k into the wishing well next year?ElmCityRhody wrote: ↑2 months agoStop that nowRhody15 wrote: ↑2 months agoThis guy said ponzi schemeElmCityRhody wrote: ↑2 months ago
Z
needless to say - this was not me...
hard pass
this is a ponzi scheme
Clueless.
You are hurting my feelings
By Ponzi scheme I am inferring to paying money with no return on the investment
You pay to get players and then they leave in a year
Call it whatever you want
I don't know how many times it has to be said but the school cannot take part in the collective and pay the players. That is why it is on the fans.theblueram wrote: ↑2 months ago It's going to take more for me. I need to see the numbers. How much does URI take in on media contracts. How much do they make each game on men's basketball. Until I see that transparency, not sure what to say. Are they running a deficit, so bad they need fans to pay players? Is the ESPN contract that bad? The A10 plays on CBS, NBC and ESPN. Is the contract that bad they can't pay players? Who benefits from good college basketball? The media, right? They are the one's who should be paying for this.
No pressure, I like to gamble.Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 months agoHave to buy 50/50? Not at all.KeaneyBluBallz wrote: ↑2 months agoI don't think it's a ponzi scheme, but we have to pay taxes, buy tickets, buy concessions, buy a 50/50 ticket, make a donation to the athletic dept, AND pay the players.ElmCityRhody wrote: ↑2 months ago
i understand your point and it makes perfect sense
respectfully i disagree.. which isn't often with you since you are about the #1 poster I enjoy reading
i get your point tho - and i will whine - and i can see how you can say that i don't have that right to whine
the issue i see is paying year after year for player turnover
if they committed to staying at URI, then I would more easily buy in
using EC Mathews as an example.. say i pay $x dollars to get a player like that...
then he leaves...
then that is no return on my investment
i will always root and complain about URI.. and will always bleed keaney blue forever
as for the rest of you. please.. by all means.. donate big time so I can watch a winner for once !
prediction for next year when i am complaining.. "well, you didn't pay any money so that is why we suck"..
just telling the truth above..
i think one can remain a big college hoops fan and decide to not pay a player at the same time
I don't think the juice just is worth the squeeze.
I’ve bought maybe seven 50/50 tickets the last decade. Should be no pressure for those whatsoever.
Don’t need to spend a ton on concessions (although tough to pass up a couple beers)
Lastly, switch the athletic department donation to NIL.
I'm not asking for the school to pay, I'm asking the media companies. Contract negotiations should include a dollar amount given to each school to pay players. Let's say $1.5M a year for each school.RhodyKyle wrote: ↑2 months agoI don't know how many times it has to be said but the school cannot take part in the collective and pay the players. That is why it is on the fans.theblueram wrote: ↑2 months ago It's going to take more for me. I need to see the numbers. How much does URI take in on media contracts. How much do they make each game on men's basketball. Until I see that transparency, not sure what to say. Are they running a deficit, so bad they need fans to pay players? Is the ESPN contract that bad? The A10 plays on CBS, NBC and ESPN. Is the contract that bad they can't pay players? Who benefits from good college basketball? The media, right? They are the one's who should be paying for this.
I don’t know if we’ll ever see those bookstheblueram wrote: ↑2 months ago It's going to take more for me. I need to see the numbers. How much does URI take in on media contracts. How much do they make each game on men's basketball. Until I see that transparency, not sure what to say. Are they running a deficit, so bad they need fans to pay players? Is the ESPN contract that bad? The A10 plays on CBS, NBC and ESPN. Is the contract that bad they can't pay players? Who benefits from good college basketball? The media, right? They are the one's who should be paying for this.
I agree and hope this version of the NIL is not in its final form. But when asking for/money is involved, it's not the same. Not even close.adam914 wrote: ↑2 months agoIt is the same in that it was something new introduced that a lot of people said would ruin the game, and it didn't. I don't think this will either. I'm not even convinced NIL will be the final form this whole thing takes in the end, so it may not even be in place long enough to ruin it.
MBB and WBBKeaneyBluBallz wrote: ↑2 months ago Honest question, is the rhody collective working for, raising money for all programs and athletes? Or just mbb?
I assume it is but I don’t know.
So fb and other programs and athletes are own their own?Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 months agoMBB and WBBKeaneyBluBallz wrote: ↑2 months ago Honest question, is the rhody collective working for, raising money for all programs and athletes? Or just mbb?
I assume it is but I don’t know.
What happens with Football? Baseball?Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 months agoMBB and WBBKeaneyBluBallz wrote: ↑2 months ago Honest question, is the rhody collective working for, raising money for all programs and athletes? Or just mbb?
I assume it is but I don’t know.
I don't know. But I read that this is for men and women's basketball.ramster wrote: ↑2 months agoWhat happens with Football? Baseball?Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 months agoMBB and WBBKeaneyBluBallz wrote: ↑2 months ago Honest question, is the rhody collective working for, raising money for all programs and athletes? Or just mbb?
I assume it is but I don’t know.
Yes, I realize they are different things. I think that's pretty obvious. I simply said the reaction to the different things is very similar, and I think the outcome will be to.RI_Bred wrote: ↑2 months agoI agree and hope this version of the NIL is not in its final form. But when asking for/money is involved, it's not the same. Not even close.adam914 wrote: ↑2 months agoIt is the same in that it was something new introduced that a lot of people said would ruin the game, and it didn't. I don't think this will either. I'm not even convinced NIL will be the final form this whole thing takes in the end, so it may not even be in place long enough to ruin it.
I hate it too and am no fan, but I’m signed up for a monthly donation.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑2 months agoIt's not just no return....it:s absolutely no return ev-er. Do fund raisers...Maybe $500 plate dinners with Arch or something.... anything.... otherwise you're just dumping whatever you can afford, hoping other people do too and that it makes a difference. I hate this, it's like begging me to pay more, for the same thing I'm already getting.... Let's say I put 10 large into it and we get to the semi-finals of the A10...then what? Throw $20k into the wishing well next year?ElmCityRhody wrote: ↑2 months agoStop that now
You are hurting my feelings
By Ponzi scheme I am inferring to paying money with no return on the investment
You pay to get players and then they leave in a year
Call it whatever you want
On this note, just wanted to add that there are some collective member exclusive events. No word yet on what those will be for this year that I've seen.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑2 months ago Do fund raisers...Maybe $500 plate dinners with Arch or something.... anything.... otherwise you're just dumping whatever you can afford, hoping other people do too and that it makes a difference. I hate this, it's like begging me to pay more, for the same thing I'm already getting.... Let's say I put 10 large into it and we get to the semi-finals of the A10...then what? Throw $20k into the wishing well next year?
Interesting.adam914 wrote: ↑2 months agoYeah I have quite a few friends that have joined or donated (at URI and other schools). And in most cases they were people who did not donate to athletics before NIL either.RIFan wrote: ↑2 months ago I’d be interested to know if your friends, family or colleagues who are pretty interested in their college and how they do are joining their collective? In my small circle of obvious cheapskates not a one has joined or donated to their schools collective, in fact my close friends that are uri alums outside of those here on the board have not donated and think it’s horrible. That is my highly unscientific survey results.
Yeah, I think that would probably be a good move to. I know I'd do it if given the option.Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 months ago One thing that I think absolutely needs to change is the collective has to have the option to direct your payment 100% to the program of your choice.
You have the option to donate to specific programs in athletics. Need it for NIL as well.
Some want it 100% to mens basketball, some 100% to women’s basketball, some both.
NCAA made rules that the schools and coaches can not contribute to the collectives. That works out very well for their bottom line. Let the fan bases try to outspend each other for players and laugh all the way to the bank. If we are going down this path contribute now before Nilflation gets totally out of control. I am sort of coming around to the idea. At least it is voluntary. I'm good with college basketball as soon as the coaches quit bitching about their plight at every opportunity.RhodyKyle wrote: ↑2 months agoI don't know how many times it has to be said but the school cannot take part in the collective and pay the players. That is why it is on the fans.theblueram wrote: ↑2 months ago It's going to take more for me. I need to see the numbers. How much does URI take in on media contracts. How much do they make each game on men's basketball. Until I see that transparency, not sure what to say. Are they running a deficit, so bad they need fans to pay players? Is the ESPN contract that bad? The A10 plays on CBS, NBC and ESPN. Is the contract that bad they can't pay players? Who benefits from good college basketball? The media, right? They are the one's who should be paying for this.
IIRC, Tammi raised more money this past season for the women's team than the men did.Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 months ago One thing that I think absolutely needs to change is the collective has to have the option to direct your payment 100% to the program of your choice.
You have the option to donate to specific programs in athletics. Need it for NIL as well.
Some want it 100% to mens basketball, some 100% to women’s basketball, some both.
Anyone know if there’s a difference between donating to the “contribute” link in the tweet vs the “one time contribution” option within the “subscribe” link?
Both go to the same place. Just one is a one time thing and the other is a subscription.Rhodymob05 wrote: ↑2 months agoAnyone know if there’s a difference between donating to the “contribute” link in the tweet vs the “one time contribution” option within the “subscribe” link?
That's not what a ponzi scheme is. I'd say learn what a term really means before using it, but I also know who I'm responding to, so you're just going to keep dropping three quarters cocked postsElmCityRhody wrote: ↑2 months agoStop that nowRhody15 wrote: ↑2 months agoThis guy said ponzi schemeElmCityRhody wrote: ↑2 months ago
needless to say - this was not me...
hard pass
this is a ponzi scheme
Clueless.
You are hurting my feelings
By Ponzi scheme I am inferring to paying money with no return on the investment
You pay to get players and then they leave in a year
Call it whatever you want
Was thinking the same thing79RhodyFan wrote: ↑2 months ago Can coaches donate? If so maybe Archie should donate some of the $500,000 bonus he just received. He could consider it a investment in himself since it could help his coaching career get going again and out of the downward spiral