Guess we find out Wednesday but I will guess
DG
Fuchs
Cam
Zek
Jaden
Yeah it’s hard to really compare DG now as most of us have only seen him play one gamePeterRamTime wrote: ↑5 months agoCloser comp than Josh Kingbigappleram wrote: ↑5 months ago I don’t see the Delroy comp besides them both being 6’7 lefties. Del was a slasher with a really good handle and slithery in traffic. Green seems to rely more on strength and high IQ. Regardless he’s our most impt player after just 1 game.
His previous stats in CUSA and CAA don’t add up to me. Either he was criminally misused or he got a lot better over the last 12 months.
Who else does he play like? He's like a bulkier less quick version.
The starting five. Point. Ways or Kortrighttheblueram wrote: ↑5 months agoI don't think Cam is being replaced. The guy can play. Sure he makes freshman mistakes, but he is one of our most skilled player.
You just agreed with my point...which is blanket and overarching (no put intended) statements like "players thrive off of coach's emotions" are not credible. Every player is different, every coach is different, and every situation is different. Some players may feed of some coaches' emotions. Absolutely. If you want to say, "in the Northeastern game, URI's players seemed to feed off of Archie's emotions," then fine.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑5 months agoDo you have this sentence saved on your phone or something? You always have a response like this whenever someone discusses how players perform under emotional coaches. Obviously, there are instances where coaches maintain a calm demeanor on the sidelines yet bring out the best in their players. Growing up as a Lakers fan, I watched Phil Jackson exemplify this approach,PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑5 months agoPlayers thrive off a coach's emotions? I didn't know that. Was that true with Dean Smith? John Wooden? Bob McKillop? Tony Bennett? Lute Olson? Al Skinner? (Tom Landry, Bill Belichick?)Rhodymob05 wrote: ↑5 months ago Players thrive off a coaches emotions. Definitely worked with Dan. I saw Archie walk up to Zek I believe and was almost under the basket. Intense.
However, if you think Archie's passion on the sideline didn't affect our team, IDK what game you were watching. The players displayed more fire and intensity than in any other game this season. This particular team appeared to respond positively to Archie's more intense approach.. Archie was awesome yesterday, and it reminded me of why I was so excited that we hired him. Let's see if we can shock the A10 and beat St. Joe. Or, at the very least, make it competitive.
I agree that it is early, but how about a comparison to one of Al Skinner's favorite players, Mike Brown?reef wrote: ↑5 months agoYeah it’s hard to really compare DG now as most of us have only seen him play one gamePeterRamTime wrote: ↑5 months agoCloser comp than Josh Kingbigappleram wrote: ↑5 months ago I don’t see the Delroy comp besides them both being 6’7 lefties. Del was a slasher with a really good handle and slithery in traffic. Green seems to rely more on strength and high IQ. Regardless he’s our most impt player after just 1 game.
His previous stats in CUSA and CAA don’t add up to me. Either he was criminally misused or he got a lot better over the last 12 months.
Who else does he play like? He's like a bulkier less quick version.
I agree more like Delroy as opposed to King who was a dead eye 3 point shooter that was most of his game with the occasional floater if the defense came out to guard him , he was perfect on that 98 team
Just think to have 3 point shooters like Cat Tyson and Josh on the floor if they get hot that team could beat anyone in the country
After just one game not quite ready to compare Green to anyone yet.bigappleram wrote: ↑5 months ago I think that’s the best comp yet. A lefty version.
Mike was tough, versatile, and could score inside and out. Prob less of a back to the basket threat than Green but more similar IMO than others thrown out.
Jersey77 wrote: ↑5 months agoAfter just one game not ready to compare Green to anyone yet.bigappleram wrote: ↑5 months ago I think that’s the best comp yet. A lefty version.
Mike was tough, versatile, and could score inside and out. Prob less of a back to the basket threat than Green but more similar IMO than others thrown out.
But yeah, if he turns out to be anything like Brown, I will take it.
Yup, Green looked good at home against a low major, missing two of their best players. I'm excited but I need to see him do this against the A10. St. Joes will tell us a lot!!Jersey77 wrote: ↑5 months agoAfter just one game not quite ready to compare Green to anyone yet.bigappleram wrote: ↑5 months ago I think that’s the best comp yet. A lefty version.
Mike was tough, versatile, and could score inside and out. Prob less of a back to the basket threat than Green but more similar IMO than others thrown out.
But yeah, if he turns out to be anything like Brown, I will take it.
Good one , Mike Brown was great did a little of everythingbigappleram wrote: ↑5 months ago I think that’s the best comp yet. A lefty version.
Mike was tough, versatile, and could score inside and out. Prob less of a back to the basket threat than Green but more similar IMO than others thrown out.
He looked very good against us in the scrimmage too. 5/6 from deep and most were heavily contested.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑5 months agoYup, Green looked good at home against a low major, missing two of their best players. I'm excited but I need to see him do this against the A10. St. Joes will tell us a lot!!Jersey77 wrote: ↑5 months agoAfter just one game not quite ready to compare Green to anyone yet.bigappleram wrote: ↑5 months ago I think that’s the best comp yet. A lefty version.
Mike was tough, versatile, and could score inside and out. Prob less of a back to the basket threat than Green but more similar IMO than others thrown out.
But yeah, if he turns out to be anything like Brown, I will take it.
True, but we are a terrible defensive team, and teams typically coast in scrimmages, which leads to easier looks. I love Green's potential but I want to see him do it against better competition. If he has a great game against St. Joe, I'll be very excited.Blue Man wrote: ↑5 months agoHe looked very good against us in the scrimmage too. 5/6 from deep and most were heavily contested.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑5 months agoYup, Green looked good at home against a low major, missing two of their best players. I'm excited but I need to see him do this against the A10. St. Joes will tell us a lot!!
Prepare to be "very excited"steveystuds06 wrote: ↑5 months agoTrue, but we are a terrible defensive team, and teams typically coast in scrimmages, which leads to easier looks. I love Green's potential but I want to see him do it against better competition. If he has a great game against St. Joe, I'll be very excited.Blue Man wrote: ↑5 months agoHe looked very good against us in the scrimmage too. 5/6 from deep and most were heavily contested.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑5 months ago
Yup, Green looked good at home against a low major, missing two of their best players. I'm excited but I need to see him do this against the A10. St. Joes will tell us a lot!!
Blueman,
Like I’ve said, I’m starting to come around on Fuchs at the 5. I think at the 4 his weaknesses looked more pronounced than they are if he’s playing the 5.ramster wrote: ↑5 months agoBlueman,
I finally went back and watched the replay of the Northeastern Game after having watched it live Saturdays...........
As you know I disagree with you on Fuchs. Here are some of my notes on the game:
1st Half
- Fuchs got the start after having missed 3 games with a concussion. Miller gave him the assignment to guard #33 Chris Doherty. Dohderty is Northeastern's Best Players. He played 2 years at Notre Dame and now his 4th Year at Northeastern. 6th year of College Basketball. Doherty leads NE in Points, Rebounds and Assists. He is 6th in CAA in Rebounding
- After 3 minutes Miller took Fuchs out and had a talk with him when he came to the bench. I made it out to be how are you feeling? Everything ok?
- Green, somewhat surprisingly to me, came in at the 16 minute mark, Kortright
4:39 to go House shot an Air-ball 3P; 32 seconds later Montgomery shot an Air-ball 3P. Back to Back Air-ball 3P's by 2 starters. Arrrggghhh.
- 13 minutes to go Estevez made a bad pass - Miller took him out
- 11.5 minutes to go Montgomery made a steal but bad pass to Kortright. Miller pulled Montgomery out
- 9 minutes to go Fuchs steals the ball at top of key, takes it length of court for 2 handed dunk. Increased URI lead from 23-20 to 25-20
- 7 minutes to go Montgomery fouled. He missed the FT - Fuchs rebounded the missed FT in the lane and got the 2P Put-back. Announcers thought Fuchs got fouled on the Put-back. He is so strong he muscled the ball in despite the contact
- 2:30 to go bad left handed pass by Montgomery. Miller pulled him.
2nd Half
- 30 seconds to go Estevez drubbing at half court. Buzz in crowd was that a NE player was coming up behind him who poked the ball loose. Miller just about lost it slamming him clipboard. URI could have had the last shot and gone up at least 42-33....but instead NE hit a 3 and cut the lead to 40-36. Instead of up 9 we went to halftime up only 4
- 19 minutes to go House with a nice pass to Fuchs on Roll & 2 Handed Dunk. Score 44-40 URI
- 17 minutes to go - step back 3P by Montgomery his 2nd Air-ball 3P of the game
- 16.5 minutes to go Miller pulls Fuchs for Brown. Talks to him on the sideline - again likely about his stamina/health. URI
- 7 minutes later Miller puts Fuchs in again.
2 minutes to go Kortright misses 1st of 1 and 1. Fuchs fof the 2nd time in the game gets the offensive rebound on a missed FT.
- With 5:12 to go Miller/Team called a great play. On the inbound pass in front of The URI bench Kortright 6'4" was being covered by McClintock 6'2" who was in only his 3rd game of the season for NE. The two were going at it for position to the left of the lane. The Ref stopped the action before the ball was to be thrown in and talked to both players. In watching the replay of the game they were showing replays fo previous plays and completely missed the pushing and shoving between Kortright and McClintock. Montgomery STILL threw the ball into Kortright despite all that and Kortright posted up McClintock for an easy 2 point banked in shot. Great call by Miller/Montgomery/Team
Miller previously said Fuch's best games were Brown and PC. After sitting out 3 games due to concussion this was his best game of the year:
- 1:42 to go int eh game Fuchs knocks the ball of the knee of a NE's King out of bounds. Fuchs does not get credit for a steal but it was excellent defense
27 minutes
5-6 FG
12 rebounds: 5 offensive. Next closest was 2 Offensive rebounds by Pridgen NE and Estevez URI. 2 of Fuch's Offensive rebounds were on Missed FT's
2 Assists
1 TO
1 Steal
+12..........Kortright also had +12 and Estevez was +14. Nest closest was House +5. Foumena -2, Wright and Brown both -1.
Maybe Fuchs was lucky to get his game high 12 rebounds but I'll take that kind off luck anyway. 6th year Chris Doherty who is NE leading rebounder was held to only 3 rebounds. Doherty was 5-7 FG, 10 points and a team high 4 TOs. So Fuchs held his man in check and had himself a Double-Double.
NONE of Fuch's Offensive Rebounds were from his own Missed Shot. Fuchs was 5-6 and his only Miss was on a 8 foot bank shot attempt.
URI Freshman Fuchs with 12 Rebounds was game high, 2nd game high went to fellow URI Freshman Estevez with 5 rebounds and 2 Offensive
Miller pulling guys right after committing turnovers shows what Miller's expectations are. Miller coached a great game vs Northeastern.
Put Green with Fuchs, get Montgomery, House and Kortright off and playing to the highest potential, combined with Estevez who is rapidly improving, sorrow the rotation to 7-8 as Miller recently said hi s goal is and something could be brewing here.
I'd say he played pretty well tonightBlue Man wrote: ↑5 months agoLike I’ve said, I’m starting to come around on Fuchs at the 5. I think at the 4 his weaknesses looked more pronounced than they are if he’s playing the 5.ramster wrote: ↑5 months agoBlueman,
I finally went back and watched the replay of the Northeastern Game after having watched it live Saturdays...........
As you know I disagree with you on Fuchs. Here are some of my notes on the game:
1st Half
- Fuchs got the start after having missed 3 games with a concussion. Miller gave him the assignment to guard #33 Chris Doherty. Dohderty is Northeastern's Best Players. He played 2 years at Notre Dame and now his 4th Year at Northeastern. 6th year of College Basketball. Doherty leads NE in Points, Rebounds and Assists. He is 6th in CAA in Rebounding
- After 3 minutes Miller took Fuchs out and had a talk with him when he came to the bench. I made it out to be how are you feeling? Everything ok?
- Green, somewhat surprisingly to me, came in at the 16 minute mark, Kortright
4:39 to go House shot an Air-ball 3P; 32 seconds later Montgomery shot an Air-ball 3P. Back to Back Air-ball 3P's by 2 starters. Arrrggghhh.
- 13 minutes to go Estevez made a bad pass - Miller took him out
- 11.5 minutes to go Montgomery made a steal but bad pass to Kortright. Miller pulled Montgomery out
- 9 minutes to go Fuchs steals the ball at top of key, takes it length of court for 2 handed dunk. Increased URI lead from 23-20 to 25-20
- 7 minutes to go Montgomery fouled. He missed the FT - Fuchs rebounded the missed FT in the lane and got the 2P Put-back. Announcers thought Fuchs got fouled on the Put-back. He is so strong he muscled the ball in despite the contact
- 2:30 to go bad left handed pass by Montgomery. Miller pulled him.
2nd Half
- 30 seconds to go Estevez drubbing at half court. Buzz in crowd was that a NE player was coming up behind him who poked the ball loose. Miller just about lost it slamming him clipboard. URI could have had the last shot and gone up at least 42-33....but instead NE hit a 3 and cut the lead to 40-36. Instead of up 9 we went to halftime up only 4
- 19 minutes to go House with a nice pass to Fuchs on Roll & 2 Handed Dunk. Score 44-40 URI
- 17 minutes to go - step back 3P by Montgomery his 2nd Air-ball 3P of the game
- 16.5 minutes to go Miller pulls Fuchs for Brown. Talks to him on the sideline - again likely about his stamina/health. URI
- 7 minutes later Miller puts Fuchs in again.
2 minutes to go Kortright misses 1st of 1 and 1. Fuchs fof the 2nd time in the game gets the offensive rebound on a missed FT.
- With 5:12 to go Miller/Team called a great play. On the inbound pass in front of The URI bench Kortright 6'4" was being covered by McClintock 6'2" who was in only his 3rd game of the season for NE. The two were going at it for position to the left of the lane. The Ref stopped the action before the ball was to be thrown in and talked to both players. In watching the replay of the game they were showing replays fo previous plays and completely missed the pushing and shoving between Kortright and McClintock. Montgomery STILL threw the ball into Kortright despite all that and Kortright posted up McClintock for an easy 2 point banked in shot. Great call by Miller/Montgomery/Team
Miller previously said Fuch's best games were Brown and PC. After sitting out 3 games due to concussion this was his best game of the year:
- 1:42 to go int eh game Fuchs knocks the ball of the knee of a NE's King out of bounds. Fuchs does not get credit for a steal but it was excellent defense
27 minutes
5-6 FG
12 rebounds: 5 offensive. Next closest was 2 Offensive rebounds by Pridgen NE and Estevez URI. 2 of Fuch's Offensive rebounds were on Missed FT's
2 Assists
1 TO
1 Steal
+12..........Kortright also had +12 and Estevez was +14. Nest closest was House +5. Foumena -2, Wright and Brown both -1.
Maybe Fuchs was lucky to get his game high 12 rebounds but I'll take that kind off luck anyway. 6th year Chris Doherty who is NE leading rebounder was held to only 3 rebounds. Doherty was 5-7 FG, 10 points and a team high 4 TOs. So Fuchs held his man in check and had himself a Double-Double.
NONE of Fuch's Offensive Rebounds were from his own Missed Shot. Fuchs was 5-6 and his only Miss was on a 8 foot bank shot attempt.
URI Freshman Fuchs with 12 Rebounds was game high, 2nd game high went to fellow URI Freshman Estevez with 5 rebounds and 2 Offensive
Miller pulling guys right after committing turnovers shows what Miller's expectations are. Miller coached a great game vs Northeastern.
Put Green with Fuchs, get Montgomery, House and Kortright off and playing to the highest potential, combined with Estevez who is rapidly improving, sorrow the rotation to 7-8 as Miller recently said hi s goal is and something could be brewing here.
His lack of effort the first couple games pissed me off and I’ve probably carried that throughout with my criticism.
I still don’t think he’s our best option at the 5, I think he’s clearly behind Bilau, and you can probably pick and choose assorted skills/situations for where you’d rather see Fuchs, Foumena, or Brown.
But you can’t argue that he played well despite a couple of gaffes last game. Let’s hope he keeps that up tonight.
100%. Super aggressive and tons of emotion. He's a natural 5. Definitely ahead of Brown. I'd like to see Foumena get more action if Bilau is going to be out, but him being at the 5 and not having to cover faster players is a huge asset. He's definitely not fast, but he's a monster. If he keeps using his body like he has the last 2 games we're in for a fun conference slate. Awesome game from him.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑5 months agoI'd say he played pretty well tonightBlue Man wrote: ↑5 months agoLike I’ve said, I’m starting to come around on Fuchs at the 5. I think at the 4 his weaknesses looked more pronounced than they are if he’s playing the 5.ramster wrote: ↑5 months ago
Blueman,
I finally went back and watched the replay of the Northeastern Game after having watched it live Saturdays...........
As you know I disagree with you on Fuchs. Here are some of my notes on the game:
1st Half
- Fuchs got the start after having missed 3 games with a concussion. Miller gave him the assignment to guard #33 Chris Doherty. Dohderty is Northeastern's Best Players. He played 2 years at Notre Dame and now his 4th Year at Northeastern. 6th year of College Basketball. Doherty leads NE in Points, Rebounds and Assists. He is 6th in CAA in Rebounding
- After 3 minutes Miller took Fuchs out and had a talk with him when he came to the bench. I made it out to be how are you feeling? Everything ok?
- Green, somewhat surprisingly to me, came in at the 16 minute mark, Kortright
4:39 to go House shot an Air-ball 3P; 32 seconds later Montgomery shot an Air-ball 3P. Back to Back Air-ball 3P's by 2 starters. Arrrggghhh.
- 13 minutes to go Estevez made a bad pass - Miller took him out
- 11.5 minutes to go Montgomery made a steal but bad pass to Kortright. Miller pulled Montgomery out
- 9 minutes to go Fuchs steals the ball at top of key, takes it length of court for 2 handed dunk. Increased URI lead from 23-20 to 25-20
- 7 minutes to go Montgomery fouled. He missed the FT - Fuchs rebounded the missed FT in the lane and got the 2P Put-back. Announcers thought Fuchs got fouled on the Put-back. He is so strong he muscled the ball in despite the contact
- 2:30 to go bad left handed pass by Montgomery. Miller pulled him.
2nd Half
- 30 seconds to go Estevez drubbing at half court. Buzz in crowd was that a NE player was coming up behind him who poked the ball loose. Miller just about lost it slamming him clipboard. URI could have had the last shot and gone up at least 42-33....but instead NE hit a 3 and cut the lead to 40-36. Instead of up 9 we went to halftime up only 4
- 19 minutes to go House with a nice pass to Fuchs on Roll & 2 Handed Dunk. Score 44-40 URI
- 17 minutes to go - step back 3P by Montgomery his 2nd Air-ball 3P of the game
- 16.5 minutes to go Miller pulls Fuchs for Brown. Talks to him on the sideline - again likely about his stamina/health. URI
- 7 minutes later Miller puts Fuchs in again.
2 minutes to go Kortright misses 1st of 1 and 1. Fuchs fof the 2nd time in the game gets the offensive rebound on a missed FT.
- With 5:12 to go Miller/Team called a great play. On the inbound pass in front of The URI bench Kortright 6'4" was being covered by McClintock 6'2" who was in only his 3rd game of the season for NE. The two were going at it for position to the left of the lane. The Ref stopped the action before the ball was to be thrown in and talked to both players. In watching the replay of the game they were showing replays fo previous plays and completely missed the pushing and shoving between Kortright and McClintock. Montgomery STILL threw the ball into Kortright despite all that and Kortright posted up McClintock for an easy 2 point banked in shot. Great call by Miller/Montgomery/Team
Miller previously said Fuch's best games were Brown and PC. After sitting out 3 games due to concussion this was his best game of the year:
- 1:42 to go int eh game Fuchs knocks the ball of the knee of a NE's King out of bounds. Fuchs does not get credit for a steal but it was excellent defense
27 minutes
5-6 FG
12 rebounds: 5 offensive. Next closest was 2 Offensive rebounds by Pridgen NE and Estevez URI. 2 of Fuch's Offensive rebounds were on Missed FT's
2 Assists
1 TO
1 Steal
+12..........Kortright also had +12 and Estevez was +14. Nest closest was House +5. Foumena -2, Wright and Brown both -1.
Maybe Fuchs was lucky to get his game high 12 rebounds but I'll take that kind off luck anyway. 6th year Chris Doherty who is NE leading rebounder was held to only 3 rebounds. Doherty was 5-7 FG, 10 points and a team high 4 TOs. So Fuchs held his man in check and had himself a Double-Double.
NONE of Fuch's Offensive Rebounds were from his own Missed Shot. Fuchs was 5-6 and his only Miss was on a 8 foot bank shot attempt.
URI Freshman Fuchs with 12 Rebounds was game high, 2nd game high went to fellow URI Freshman Estevez with 5 rebounds and 2 Offensive
Miller pulling guys right after committing turnovers shows what Miller's expectations are. Miller coached a great game vs Northeastern.
Put Green with Fuchs, get Montgomery, House and Kortright off and playing to the highest potential, combined with Estevez who is rapidly improving, sorrow the rotation to 7-8 as Miller recently said hi s goal is and something could be brewing here.
His lack of effort the first couple games pissed me off and I’ve probably carried that throughout with my criticism.
I still don’t think he’s our best option at the 5, I think he’s clearly behind Bilau, and you can probably pick and choose assorted skills/situations for where you’d rather see Fuchs, Foumena, or Brown.
But you can’t argue that he played well despite a couple of gaffes last game. Let’s hope he keeps that up tonight.
I think folks forget he's a FR tho. He will improve defensively also through better situational awareness, understanding guys tendencies, getting better at anticipation and positional adjustment, etc. All things that come with playing more games. He can improve lateral movement to an extent through training but he's not going to turn into Lamonte Ulmer. However as his IQ and game awareness improves so will some of his deficiencies in guarding people outside the paint. Right now he is best suited at the 5 but to say that is where he will be forever is foolish. He's 15 games into his freshman year a lot of development will happen with him.Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑5 months ago I agree with many here that Fuchs best spot is at the 5 but I will add at this time, for this team, this season.
I still hold out hope that he can improve his foot speed (especially lateral movement) to play the 4 and 5 for us in the coming seasons. That said, Fuchs and the team trainer have a lot of work to do to get him to that point.