It should!!Rhody74 wrote: ↑1 year ago Will this put Huggy on the hot seat?
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He’s issued an apology. We’ll see if that helps.LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑1 year agoIt should!!Rhody74 wrote: ↑1 year ago Will this put Huggy on the hot seat?
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I'm guessing he's gone...if it were directed at another group, he would have been gone yesterday, even though he didn't launch his verbal diarrheaRhody74 wrote: ↑1 year ago Will this put Huggy on the hot seat?
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It is West Virginia. Huggy is not getting fired. If anything, these comments probably made him even more popular with the residents of the state.
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Let's see what happens, but I wouldn't think termination would come from that.
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I found the guys on the radio show Huggins was interacting with were enjoying the back and forth. Seems much about nothing.
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I mean, you can’t say that word in 2023, that’s about as obvious as anything these days.
I’m just glad he didn’t get fired.
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Wow! Surprised they took it so seriously. I thought they would give him a "reprimand" and some puff suspension.
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A million bucks, I don't care if you're already very wealthy, that's a lot of scratch!
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Wouldn’t survive that here.
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Given that contract situation, he's probably gone after this season.
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Guess it depends on where you are and what group you offend. I think anywhere in New England he'd have been gone. We're waaaaay too uptight in these parts to tolerate that shizzle...
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Being uptight has nothing to do with finding what Huggins said offensive. Imagine a college professor talking like he did, regardless of the university and where it is located. That professor would be gone.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year ago Guess it depends on where you are and what group you offend. I think anywhere in New England he'd have been gone. We're waaaaay too uptight in these parts to tolerate that shizzle...
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There’s double standards everywhere in life.PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑1 year agoBeing uptight has nothing to do with finding what Huggins said offensive. Imagine a college professor talking like he did, regardless of the university and where it is located. That professor would be gone.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year ago Guess it depends on where you are and what group you offend. I think anywhere in New England he'd have been gone. We're waaaaay too uptight in these parts to tolerate that shizzle...
Some people can and will get away with more things than others.
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I think you're wrong. Your location and setting totally matters (and of course your value and replaceability) A WVU professor wouldn't have lost his job either. A Rhody prof, BC, UNH....probs gone, but where Huggs is, tolerated, now with precedent.PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑1 year agoBeing uptight has nothing to do with finding what Huggins said offensive. Imagine a college professor talking like he did, regardless of the university and where it is located. That professor would be gone.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year ago Guess it depends on where you are and what group you offend. I think anywhere in New England he'd have been gone. We're waaaaay too uptight in these parts to tolerate that shizzle...
Btw, I don't think he should have been fired and a milly fine is just silly...if I had the cash he does I'd probably just say eff it, see y'all...then again, I might just say eff it, you clowns are stuck with me now. The effect of fining him a million actually just solidifies how much they don't want him going anywhere
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Curious now what punishment you would have levied against him for casually dropping a gay slur multiple times? Him saying that word three separate times shows it wasn't a mistake/lapse in judgment.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year agoI think you're wrong. Your location and setting totally matters (and of course your value and replaceability) A WVU professor wouldn't have lost his job either. A Rhody prof, BC, UNH....probs gone, but where Huggs is, tolerated, now with precedent.PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑1 year agoBeing uptight has nothing to do with finding what Huggins said offensive. Imagine a college professor talking like he did, regardless of the university and where it is located. That professor would be gone.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year ago Guess it depends on where you are and what group you offend. I think anywhere in New England he'd have been gone. We're waaaaay too uptight in these parts to tolerate that shizzle...
Btw, I don't think he should have been fired and a milly fine is just silly...if I had the cash he does I'd probably just say eff it, see y'all...then again, I might just say eff it, you clowns are stuck with me now. The effect of fining him a million actually just solidifies how much they don't want him going anywhere
Personally I think the $1 million reduction in compensation and (allegedly) losing his emeritus status is an appropriate punishment. Given the length of the suspension and who their opponents are, I thought it was perfunctory but the rest of the punishment was fair.
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Mike Anderson is suing the Johnnies for 46 M for firing him with cause , hope he gets paid !!
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I just hope WVU stays to their new code of conduct and never books a musical act or entertainer to appear on their campus who's ever uttered a mean word! THE HORROR!! WORDS!!!RhodyKyle wrote: ↑1 year agoCurious now what punishment you would have levied against him for casually dropping a gay slur multiple times? Him saying that word three separate times shows it wasn't a mistake/lapse in judgment.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year agoI think you're wrong. Your location and setting totally matters (and of course your value and replaceability) A WVU professor wouldn't have lost his job either. A Rhody prof, BC, UNH....probs gone, but where Huggs is, tolerated, now with precedent.PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑1 year ago
Being uptight has nothing to do with finding what Huggins said offensive. Imagine a college professor talking like he did, regardless of the university and where it is located. That professor would be gone.
Btw, I don't think he should have been fired and a milly fine is just silly...if I had the cash he does I'd probably just say eff it, see y'all...then again, I might just say eff it, you clowns are stuck with me now. The effect of fining him a million actually just solidifies how much they don't want him going anywhere
Personally I think the $1 million reduction in compensation and (allegedly) losing his emeritus status is an appropriate punishment. Given the length of the suspension and who their opponents are, I thought it was perfunctory but the rest of the punishment was fair.
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I don't know....when R72 called you a racist, you seemed to get real upset at WORDSBlue Man wrote: ↑1 year agoI just hope WVU stays to their new code of conduct and never books a musical act or entertainer to appear on their campus who's ever uttered a mean word! THE HORROR!! WORDS!!!RhodyKyle wrote: ↑1 year agoCurious now what punishment you would have levied against him for casually dropping a gay slur multiple times? Him saying that word three separate times shows it wasn't a mistake/lapse in judgment.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year ago
I think you're wrong. Your location and setting totally matters (and of course your value and replaceability) A WVU professor wouldn't have lost his job either. A Rhody prof, BC, UNH....probs gone, but where Huggs is, tolerated, now with precedent.
Btw, I don't think he should have been fired and a milly fine is just silly...if I had the cash he does I'd probably just say eff it, see y'all...then again, I might just say eff it, you clowns are stuck with me now. The effect of fining him a million actually just solidifies how much they don't want him going anywhere
Personally I think the $1 million reduction in compensation and (allegedly) losing his emeritus status is an appropriate punishment. Given the length of the suspension and who their opponents are, I thought it was perfunctory but the rest of the punishment was fair.
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Using the subjective judgment of (supposedly) free speech as a means to discipline and fire people...is one of, if not The worst things to happen in America in the last 20 years. You either have to fire the guy because you "can't have that" (because you think you know everything people should and shouldn't be allowed to say), say, "we don't agree, not what we're about, so we fired him." Or, "we don't agree, but, he's the hoops coach...free speech...talk to him." I don't think you "punish" a guy for free speech, but I know that is a seriously minority viewpoint (especially in these parts )RhodyKyle wrote: ↑1 year agoCurious now what punishment you would have levied against him for casually dropping a gay slur multiple times? Him saying that word three separate times shows it wasn't a mistake/lapse in judgment.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year agoI think you're wrong. Your location and setting totally matters (and of course your value and replaceability) A WVU professor wouldn't have lost his job either. A Rhody prof, BC, UNH....probs gone, but where Huggs is, tolerated, now with precedent.PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑1 year ago
Being uptight has nothing to do with finding what Huggins said offensive. Imagine a college professor talking like he did, regardless of the university and where it is located. That professor would be gone.
Btw, I don't think he should have been fired and a milly fine is just silly...if I had the cash he does I'd probably just say eff it, see y'all...then again, I might just say eff it, you clowns are stuck with me now. The effect of fining him a million actually just solidifies how much they don't want him going anywhere
Personally I think the $1 million reduction in compensation and (allegedly) losing his emeritus status is an appropriate punishment. Given the length of the suspension and who their opponents are, I thought it was perfunctory but the rest of the punishment was fair.
ETA: This whole situation shows the condition of "free speech." Huggy can say that, keep his job and position...has to pay a mil. So, it's not like he couldn't say it, they don't really mind that...they just want a million dollars for it.
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Also i don’t know where I saw it but I’ve seen some people say this is Huggys last ride this year before this whole entire controversy this week
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Roll, Huggy, roll...good grief, these folks that are so wound by this now...need to spend some time in a frat house.... shnit talk happens, stop being so "offended on behalf of someone else"
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There’s a big difference between private joking around among college friends and making such remarks on a public platform, especially by a veteran coach.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year agoRoll, Huggy, roll...good grief, these folks that are so wound by this now...need to spend some time in a frat house.... shnit talk happens, stop being so "offended on behalf of someone else"
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why? seriously...why? And I don't even think woke America really even allows for that anymore....Say something like that in a frat in 2023...get elected to a town office in 2030....run for a public office in 2032, and there'll be folks saying, "he said 'fag' in 2023..." It's crazyRhody74 wrote: ↑1 year agoThere’s a big difference between private joking around among college friends and making such remarks on a public platform, especially by a veteran coach.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year agoRoll, Huggy, roll...good grief, these folks that are so wound by this now...need to spend some time in a frat house.... shnit talk happens, stop being so "offended on behalf of someone else"
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right...because it's all about "who's judgment falls upon said speech"....it's not about 'the words', it's about who hears, and who cares...which is totally effed. "Someone else" should not decide what I find offensive....
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Then we should stop banning books, right.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year agoright...because it's all about "who's judgment falls upon said speech"....it's not about 'the words', it's about who hears, and who cares...which is totally effed. "Someone else" should not decide what I find offensive....
"Free speech" as a 1A right means Huggy can't be arrested and jailed for saying that word, but it doesn't absolve him from consequences for saying something a majority of people don't like.
I don't think he should have been fired at all for this but to clutch pearls over him being disciplined is strange.
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I just think it's half-assed and kinda spineless. It's way less about what he said than the money. They want to look like "the good university"....but there's too much cash at stake to fire the coach. But, if his salary was $250K instead of $4.5M, they'd have fired him on the spot probably.RhodyKyle wrote: ↑1 year agoThen we should stop banning books, right.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year agoright...because it's all about "who's judgment falls upon said speech"....it's not about 'the words', it's about who hears, and who cares...which is totally effed. "Someone else" should not decide what I find offensive....
"Free speech" as a 1A right means Huggy can't be arrested and jailed for saying that word, but it doesn't absolve him from consequences for saying something a majority of people don't like.
I don't think he should have been fired at all for this but to clutch pearls over him being disciplined is strange.
Oh, so, now, can every other coach in America feel safe to say that, provided they're willing to pony up $1M?
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So, Doc Rivers got fired by Philly today and there's a PC fan on twitter suggesting that Cooley could leave Georgetown for that job.
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They may have thought Rob Dauster's obvious joke was serious for some reason.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 year ago So, Doc Rivers got fired by Philly today and there's a PC fan on twitter suggesting that Cooley could leave Georgetown for that job.
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This post is a perfect example of how most people have literally no fucking clue what free speech means. Free speech means for the most part you can say whatever you want, it doesn't mean being free from consequences when you say whatever you want. Huggins fucked around being an asshole on the radio, and he found out when West Virginia chopped his salary down $1 millionNYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year agoUsing the subjective judgment of (supposedly) free speech as a means to discipline and fire people...is one of, if not The worst things to happen in America in the last 20 years. You either have to fire the guy because you "can't have that" (because you think you know everything people should and shouldn't be allowed to say), say, "we don't agree, not what we're about, so we fired him." Or, "we don't agree, but, he's the hoops coach...free speech...talk to him." I don't think you "punish" a guy for free speech, but I know that is a seriously minority viewpoint (especially in these parts )RhodyKyle wrote: ↑1 year agoCurious now what punishment you would have levied against him for casually dropping a gay slur multiple times? Him saying that word three separate times shows it wasn't a mistake/lapse in judgment.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year ago
I think you're wrong. Your location and setting totally matters (and of course your value and replaceability) A WVU professor wouldn't have lost his job either. A Rhody prof, BC, UNH....probs gone, but where Huggs is, tolerated, now with precedent.
Btw, I don't think he should have been fired and a milly fine is just silly...if I had the cash he does I'd probably just say eff it, see y'all...then again, I might just say eff it, you clowns are stuck with me now. The effect of fining him a million actually just solidifies how much they don't want him going anywhere
Personally I think the $1 million reduction in compensation and (allegedly) losing his emeritus status is an appropriate punishment. Given the length of the suspension and who their opponents are, I thought it was perfunctory but the rest of the punishment was fair.
ETA: This whole situation shows the condition of "free speech." Huggy can say that, keep his job and position...has to pay a mil. So, it's not like he couldn't say it, they don't really mind that...they just want a million dollars for it.
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And a comedian could say pretty much the same thing and get paid for it.... Posers.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 year agoThis post is a perfect example of how most people have literally no fucking clue what free speech means. Free speech means for the most part you can say whatever you want, it doesn't mean being free from consequences when you say whatever you want. Huggins fucked around being an asshole on the radio, and he found out when West Virginia chopped his salary down $1 millionNYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year agoUsing the subjective judgment of (supposedly) free speech as a means to discipline and fire people...is one of, if not The worst things to happen in America in the last 20 years. You either have to fire the guy because you "can't have that" (because you think you know everything people should and shouldn't be allowed to say), say, "we don't agree, not what we're about, so we fired him." Or, "we don't agree, but, he's the hoops coach...free speech...talk to him." I don't think you "punish" a guy for free speech, but I know that is a seriously minority viewpoint (especially in these parts )RhodyKyle wrote: ↑1 year ago
Curious now what punishment you would have levied against him for casually dropping a gay slur multiple times? Him saying that word three separate times shows it wasn't a mistake/lapse in judgment.
Personally I think the $1 million reduction in compensation and (allegedly) losing his emeritus status is an appropriate punishment. Given the length of the suspension and who their opponents are, I thought it was perfunctory but the rest of the punishment was fair.
ETA: This whole situation shows the condition of "free speech." Huggy can say that, keep his job and position...has to pay a mil. So, it's not like he couldn't say it, they don't really mind that...they just want a million dollars for it.
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Remember Michael Richards? Everyone's beloved Cosmo Kramer? He had a racist meltdown on stage where he got paid that night. What's he been up to since? (Hint: literally nothing, he killed his stand-up career that night)NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year agoAnd a comedian could say pretty much the same thing and get paid for it.... Posers.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 year agoThis post is a perfect example of how most people have literally no fucking clue what free speech means. Free speech means for the most part you can say whatever you want, it doesn't mean being free from consequences when you say whatever you want. Huggins fucked around being an asshole on the radio, and he found out when West Virginia chopped his salary down $1 millionNYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year ago
Using the subjective judgment of (supposedly) free speech as a means to discipline and fire people...is one of, if not The worst things to happen in America in the last 20 years. You either have to fire the guy because you "can't have that" (because you think you know everything people should and shouldn't be allowed to say), say, "we don't agree, not what we're about, so we fired him." Or, "we don't agree, but, he's the hoops coach...free speech...talk to him." I don't think you "punish" a guy for free speech, but I know that is a seriously minority viewpoint (especially in these parts )
ETA: This whole situation shows the condition of "free speech." Huggy can say that, keep his job and position...has to pay a mil. So, it's not like he couldn't say it, they don't really mind that...they just want a million dollars for it.
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Just wondering, how many of current head coaches in the BE prior coaching job was in the A10?
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Dan Hurley (URI)
Sean Miller (Xavier)
Thad Matta (Xavier)
Kyle Neptune (Fordham)
Kim English (GM)
Shaka Smart (VCU)
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Just wondering, who as former head BE coaches went to the A-1? Steve Lappas, Nova to UMass? Memory shot here.
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So I guess more then half the current BE coaches were A10 coaches....hmmmmm and 3 went directly to BE from A10 in the last 5 years, I believe
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3 current BE Schools were at one time in the Eastern-8/A-10:
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Maybe the BE should be renamed the Big A10.
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A good listen interview Rothstein and Cooley
Cooley talks about how both he and John Thompson viewed the Georgetown program very highly for a long time
Cooley says both of his children are living in the area now so his whole immediate family is there but he does miss his mother in RI and other relatives.
Cooley talks about how both he and John Thompson viewed the Georgetown program very highly for a long time
Cooley says both of his children are living in the area now so his whole immediate family is there but he does miss his mother in RI and other relatives.
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Charlotte used to be a decent job 20 some odd years ago. It hasn't done much in the last two decades unless you consider winning the CBI this past year an accomplishment. Has had more losing seasons than winning seasons in the years since leaving the A-10 to pursue FBS football in CUSA. Now headed to a revamped AAC that will be without Houston, Cinci, and UCF.
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I'm sure he misses his side piece as well, but at least DC is crawling with hoors (Ralph Cipheretto/Frank Reynolds voice)ramster wrote: ↑1 year ago A good listen interview Rothstein and Cooley
Cooley talks about how both he and John Thompson viewed the Georgetown program very highly for a long time
Cooley says both of his children are living in the area now so his whole immediate family is there but he does miss his mother in RI and other relatives.
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WVU head men's basketball coach Bob Huggins arrested for DUI
by LESLIE RUBINS June 17th 2023, 9:29 AM EDT
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I believe the Huggs has coached his last game...RF1 wrote: ↑1 year ago WVU head men's basketball coach Bob Huggins arrested for DUI
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This is becoming somewhat of a tradition for Huggy BearRF1 wrote: ↑1 year ago WVU head men's basketball coach Bob Huggins arrested for DUI
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After this and what happened last month, I guess Huggy will be shown the door by WVU.
I wonder who WVU will target for HC ? Or, will they elevate an assistant ?
I wonder who WVU will target for HC ? Or, will they elevate an assistant ?