We could have had Bird, Parrish and McHale and Cox still couldn't coach them.bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago Long, Martin, Toppin, Tate were all significant talent losses for the DC regime.
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Toppin transferred strictly because of his last name/brother and his perceived potential.theblueram wrote: ↑1 year agoSo a transfer out for a p5 is not the same? Not sure what you are saying.
A Leggett transfer would happen because of his current skill and production.
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My point wasn’t about VCU specifically. Lunardi just chose them because they were in first place that particular day, probably due to a tiebreaker. Substitute St Louis or Dayton. It doesn’t matter right now, unless one of these three starts rolling all its remaining opponents. Sadly, a 12 seed is probably right on point. The A10 is basically the Missouri Valley Conference this year. The key will be how quickly things get turned around.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year agoGonna be even worse when they don't end up as league champ...JimSidd wrote: ↑1 year agoGood point. I had the older version of the A10 in my head, not the A10 of the past 2 1/2 years. The fact that Long could play in the current A10 may say more about the league than about him. I know league strength runs in cycles and the hiring of name coaches at several schools can help, but I wonder about the future of the league. In Lunardi’s bracketology the other day, he had VCU as the automatic qualifier (pre loss to the Bonnies) and a 12 seed. Not good to have your league champion as a 12 seed.KevanBoyles wrote: ↑1 year ago I liked Mekhi’s game. Old Dominion has a good coach and is in a good league. I’m surprised by the 19 rebounds, but who wouldn’t be. I’m not so sure his talent wouldn’t translate well to the A-10. The A-10 isn’t a top 10 conference anymore.
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And even that I’m not worried about. As much as todays day and age is synonymous with transfers, it’s also peak “if you’re good they’ll find you”Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year agoToppin transferred strictly because of his last name/brother and his perceived potential.theblueram wrote: ↑1 year agoSo a transfer out for a p5 is not the same? Not sure what you are saying.
A Leggett transfer would happen because of his current skill and production.
Leggett can go places from URI. Hell, his fellow HS Alumni Jeff dowtin did just that.
If he chooses to chase a big bag of money we can’t compete with, who knows. But he’d also just be a guy on a P5 team, vs being THE guy here.
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Good point to be reminded of, KL. Good for me, anyway as I sometimes forget.
In general (not specific to Ish), being just another guy (JAG) on a P5 team vs being the guy here: Hopefully as time goes along and things play out, being the guy here (or other A10 programs) wins out over leaving.
Of course NIL money will play a role, too.
Good stuff.
In general (not specific to Ish), being just another guy (JAG) on a P5 team vs being the guy here: Hopefully as time goes along and things play out, being the guy here (or other A10 programs) wins out over leaving.
Of course NIL money will play a role, too.
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what i'm saying is...none of those three will be the A10 champ.... what seed does a 'non one-of-those three' get?JimSidd wrote: ↑1 year agoMy point wasn’t about VCU specifically. Lunardi just chose them because they were in first place that particular day, probably due to a tiebreaker. Substitute St Louis or Dayton. It doesn’t matter right now, unless one of these three starts rolling all its remaining opponents. Sadly, a 12 seed is probably right on point. The A10 is basically the Missouri Valley Conference this year. The key will be how quickly things get turned around.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year agoGonna be even worse when they don't end up as league champ...JimSidd wrote: ↑1 year ago
Good point. I had the older version of the A10 in my head, not the A10 of the past 2 1/2 years. The fact that Long could play in the current A10 may say more about the league than about him. I know league strength runs in cycles and the hiring of name coaches at several schools can help, but I wonder about the future of the league. In Lunardi’s bracketology the other day, he had VCU as the automatic qualifier (pre loss to the Bonnies) and a 12 seed. Not good to have your league champion as a 12 seed.
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No better than a 12, no matter who it is, based on league performance so far.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year agowhat i'm saying is...none of those three will be the A10 champ.... what seed does a 'non one-of-those three' get?JimSidd wrote: ↑1 year agoMy point wasn’t about VCU specifically. Lunardi just chose them because they were in first place that particular day, probably due to a tiebreaker. Substitute St Louis or Dayton. It doesn’t matter right now, unless one of these three starts rolling all its remaining opponents. Sadly, a 12 seed is probably right on point. The A10 is basically the Missouri Valley Conference this year. The key will be how quickly things get turned around.
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Aren't some of these losses attributed to Thorr selecting DC as coach, and players who came to URI to play for DH as well as matters unrelated to the basketball team? You may be missing the problem.bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago Long, Martin, Toppin, Tate were all significant talent losses for the DC regime.
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Right, I get that....but could "none of those three" end up worse than a 12?JimSidd wrote: ↑1 year agoNo better than a 12, no matter who it is, based on league performance so far.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year agowhat i'm saying is...none of those three will be the A10 champ.... what seed does a 'non one-of-those three' get?JimSidd wrote: ↑1 year ago
My point wasn’t about VCU specifically. Lunardi just chose them because they were in first place that particular day, probably due to a tiebreaker. Substitute St Louis or Dayton. It doesn’t matter right now, unless one of these three starts rolling all its remaining opponents. Sadly, a 12 seed is probably right on point. The A10 is basically the Missouri Valley Conference this year. The key will be how quickly things get turned around.
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Thorr didn’t coach the team.Rhody72 wrote: ↑1 year agoAren't some of these losses attributed to Thorr selecting DC as coach, and players who came to URI to play for DH as well as matters unrelated to the basketball team? You may be missing the problem.bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago Long, Martin, Toppin, Tate were all significant talent losses for the DC regime.
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Thorr hired the coach who wasn't ready. Do you really expect someone to turn down a promotion at a ~6 fold increase in salary? Would you?
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It wasn't 6 fold...more like 3-4 fold. And if you were in charge apparently it would have been 6-7 fold.
And yes the sitting HC who lost the players is responsible for losing the players. Not the AD.
Remind me of that commitment video that said "I am choosing to play in RI bc I love their AD."
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DC's compensation was~$730K. So you are saying he made ~$200K as an assistant. Not even close. These players came to play for DH, not DC and not URI. Thorr failed to hire a replacement for DH who was acceptable to them and instead tried to save money. As for your other slights, I opposed the hiring of DC because he was a project. I believe in paying the position; if the candidate would accept a much lower salary, he probably is not worthy of the job.bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago
It wasn't 6 fold...more like 3-4 fold. And if you were in charge apparently it would have been 6-7 fold.
And yes the sitting HC who lost the players is responsible for losing the players. Not the AD.
Remind me of that commitment video that said "I am choosing to play in RI bc I love their AD."
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You’re stupid. No one likes you. Go fuck yourself.Rhody72 wrote: ↑1 year agoDC's compensation was~$730K. So you are saying he made ~$200K as an assistant. Not even close. These players came to play for DH, not DC and not URI. Thorr failed to hire a replacement for DH who was acceptable to them and instead tried to save money. As for your other slights, I opposed the hiring of DC because he was a project. I believe in paying the position; if the candidate would accept a much lower salary, he probably is not worthy of the job.bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago
It wasn't 6 fold...more like 3-4 fold. And if you were in charge apparently it would have been 6-7 fold.
And yes the sitting HC who lost the players is responsible for losing the players. Not the AD.
Remind me of that commitment video that said "I am choosing to play in RI bc I love their AD."
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I would say yes, a 13 seed is likely if a team other than these three wins the tournament.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year agoRight, I get that....but could "none of those three" end up worse than a 12?JimSidd wrote: ↑1 year agoNo better than a 12, no matter who it is, based on league performance so far.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year ago
what i'm saying is...none of those three will be the A10 champ.... what seed does a 'non one-of-those three' get?
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Thanks for posting that, 78! Absolutely tremendous.
My favorite Rhody big man and we have had some tremendous ones. Fantastic post moves, quick leaper, tremendous rim protector, outstanding rebounder. Loved his game and that team as much as I love the 77-78 team.
Many of us oldies here are very fortunate. I feel sad for Rhody fans that didn’t get to see KG play live nor will likely see his type of skill set combined with level of play live at the Ryan as the game continues to be dominated by the 3 and bigs float out to the 3 line.
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Incredible piece , great interviews look forward to seeing the others thanks for sharing
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Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑1 year agoThanks for posting that, 78! Absolutely tremendous.
My favorite Rhody big man and we have had some tremendous ones. Fantastic post moves, quick leaper, tremendous rim protector, outstanding rebounder. Loved his game and that team as much as I love the 77-78 team.
Many of us oldies here are very fortunate. I feel sad for Rhody fans that didn’t get to see KG play live nor will likely see his type of skill set combined with level of play live at the Ryan as the game continues to be dominated by the 3 and bigs float out to the 3 line.
From your description and everything else I’ve read on him, Hassan seems to have had a very similar game which all of us here got to witness.
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Kenny was much more athletic than Hass. Hass was always really good and always steady.Kenny was often spectacular. If not for his knees, he would have had a long and successful NBA career. I love them both.Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year agoJdrums#3 wrote: ↑1 year agoThanks for posting that, 78! Absolutely tremendous.
My favorite Rhody big man and we have had some tremendous ones. Fantastic post moves, quick leaper, tremendous rim protector, outstanding rebounder. Loved his game and that team as much as I love the 77-78 team.
Many of us oldies here are very fortunate. I feel sad for Rhody fans that didn’t get to see KG play live nor will likely see his type of skill set combined with level of play live at the Ryan as the game continues to be dominated by the 3 and bigs float out to the 3 line.
From your description and everything else I’ve read on him, Hassan seems to have had a very similar game which all of us here got to witness.
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Having witnessed both I differ.Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year agoJdrums#3 wrote: ↑1 year agoThanks for posting that, 78! Absolutely tremendous.
My favorite Rhody big man and we have had some tremendous ones. Fantastic post moves, quick leaper, tremendous rim protector, outstanding rebounder. Loved his game and that team as much as I love the 77-78 team.
Many of us oldies here are very fortunate. I feel sad for Rhody fans that didn’t get to see KG play live nor will likely see his type of skill set combined with level of play live at the Ryan as the game continues to be dominated by the 3 and bigs float out to the 3 line.
From your description and everything else I’ve read on him, Hassan seems to have had a very similar game which all of us here got to witness.
IMHO, Hass approaches KG’s ability in shot blocking definitely, and rebounding to a lesser extent. So, in those two areas I see similarities and Rhody greatness. However, with respect to offensive post moves, and shooting touch, drawing fouls, not similar - KG being more proficient offensively in the lane, facing up or back to the basket, or with his jump shot.
That said, both were explosive and powerful when dunking, particularly when not slowed by injuries.
My description doesn’t do KG justice.
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Kenny was way better than Hass , if he had 2 good news he had a 12-15 year NBA career easily
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KG was dynamic, Reef. What could have been if only…
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I remember KG sitting out practices to save his knees for games.
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This is how I envision BM and R72 interacting
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Les Grossman is a fair comparison imo
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Maybe we can get SBrand to interview them together on his youtube podcast.
Keeping things in perspective...
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Go back and watch that Syracuse game from 1988. Kenny almost single-handedly fouled out a bunch of future first-round picks because they just couldn't guard him. As great as Hass was, he didn't have the offensive game Kenny did.
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Yeah I was born in 94, but I have watched the 1988 tournament games and I can tell Hass was not on Kenny's level at all really.Rhode_Island_Red wrote: ↑1 year ago Go back and watch that Syracuse game from 1988. Kenny almost single-handedly fouled out a bunch of future first-round picks because they just couldn't guard him. As great as Hass was, he didn't have the offensive game Kenny did.
Put Kenny on that 2017 team and you don't need a miraculous run to make the dance that year.
Still hate how both guys were so banged up
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Speaking of Rhody great centers and under the category of what could have been, if Art Stephenson was only 3 inches taller......
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REBOUNDS CAREER
1. 1,048 Art Stephenson 1965-68
2. 1,039 Gary Koenig 1959-62
3. 1,028 Antonio Reynolds Dean 1995-99
4. 996 Kenny Green 1985-90
5. 964 Cyril Langevine 2016-20
6. 869 Kahiem Seawright 2005-09
7. 786 Hassan Martin 2013-17
8. 773 Jimmy Wright 1977-81
9. 744 John Fultz 1967-70
10. 732 Jeff Kent 1988-92
Remember, Art did this in 3 seasons (frosh couldn't play varsity back then), whereas ARD, KG, Cyril, etc. did theirs in 4 seasons.
1. 1,048 Art Stephenson 1965-68
2. 1,039 Gary Koenig 1959-62
3. 1,028 Antonio Reynolds Dean 1995-99
4. 996 Kenny Green 1985-90
5. 964 Cyril Langevine 2016-20
6. 869 Kahiem Seawright 2005-09
7. 786 Hassan Martin 2013-17
8. 773 Jimmy Wright 1977-81
9. 744 John Fultz 1967-70
10. 732 Jeff Kent 1988-92
Remember, Art did this in 3 seasons (frosh couldn't play varsity back then), whereas ARD, KG, Cyril, etc. did theirs in 4 seasons.
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He was such a special player for his size. And that very unorthodox jump shot. Didn’t he pass at a very young age from a heart attack?
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Pretty good. It appears the young man has worked to improve his game. Thanks for the info, Jersey.
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Antonio Reynolds-Dean was listed at 6-7 but he was closer to 6-4.
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Sorry if I missed this, but did anyone get a chance to talk to Jeff Dowtin about his future plans?
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This would be so much fun. I hope they can make it happen.
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Yeah that would be amazing!
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Not immediate future but…
Maybe 10 or so years from now or whenever he decides to hang up his sneakers, he will consider coaching.
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Who was Jeff sitting next to ?? Was that a former player ??
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