But people here keep saying he doesn't want to deal with the transfer route??????bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago We just offered a 6’9” juco forward which would indicate Archie knows we need bigs ready to play to balance all the youth.
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But people here keep saying he doesn't want to deal with the transfer route??????bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago We just offered a 6’9” juco forward which would indicate Archie knows we need bigs ready to play to balance all the youth.
The coach who is paid about $1.7m a year now realizes he needs this? I’m pretty sure everyone on this board already knew that. But sadly maybe that’s because we have been through a few of these rebuilds before and this scale of a rebuild is new to Archie.bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago We just offered a 6’9” juco forward which would indicate Archie knows we need bigs ready to play to balance all the youth.
Ya kinda gotta back off on the coach. He came on board in March and had to basically get a new team together quick. Or else we wouldn't have a team this year. He does need to hit some home run top freshman though, which I'm confident he will do.RIFan wrote: ↑1 year agoThe coach who is paid about $1.7m a year now realizes he needs this? I’m pretty sure everyone on this board already knew that. But sadly maybe that’s because we have been through a few of these rebuilds before and this scale of a rebuild is new to Archie.bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago We just offered a 6’9” juco forward which would indicate Archie knows we need bigs ready to play to balance all the youth.
Archie definitely gets a pass because he was out of coaching last season and didn't get in a full recruiting cycle, when hired earlier this past year.theblueram wrote: ↑1 year agoYa kinda gotta back off on the coach. He came on board in March and had to basically get a new team together quick. Or else we wouldn't have a team this year. He does need to hit some home run top freshman though, which I'm confident he will do.RIFan wrote: ↑1 year agoThe coach who is paid about $1.7m a year now realizes he needs this? I’m pretty sure everyone on this board already knew that. But sadly maybe that’s because we have been through a few of these rebuilds before and this scale of a rebuild is new to Archie.bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago We just offered a 6’9” juco forward which would indicate Archie knows we need bigs ready to play to balance all the youth.
Who?bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago We just offered a 6’9” juco forward which would indicate Archie knows we need bigs ready to play to balance all the youth.
Tyson Brown.Rhodymob05 wrote: ↑1 year agoWho?bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago We just offered a 6’9” juco forward which would indicate Archie knows we need bigs ready to play to balance all the youth.
Yeah, I don't know. I haven't seen any top recruits yet. We supposedly have a top shelf assistant staff. But I haven't seen us seriously involved in any top recruits. So I do have my own worries. With DH, we had EC committed who was a 4* HS recruit along with Hass and Jarvis for his second year.RIFan wrote: ↑1 year ago Archie gets a pass, so this seasons $1.7m is just a gift and next year is when we are supposed to expect things? Yes he did not have a whole recruiting cycle but are any other new coaches having success this year or did they all get a pass? Seems like another Miller who was also unemployed last year is doing fine.
Yes RIF, Archie does get a pass this season.RIFan wrote: ↑1 year ago Archie gets a pass, so this seasons $1.7m is just a gift and next year is when we are supposed to expect things? Yes he did not have a whole recruiting cycle but are any other new coaches having success this year or did they all get a pass? Seems like another Miller who was also unemployed last year is doing fine. I know all circumstances are not the same, but he doesn’t get a pass…if things were going great would this season not count in your opinion of his job performance?
GTFOHArchieOrBust wrote: ↑1 year ago Let’s be real if Archie didn’t lose the twins we’d be top 4 might even be higher this season with how garbage the A10 is this year. Losing those twins was more than a huge lose.
Look at what Archie came into compared to Sean.Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year ago Sorry, not giving him a pass because he didn’t coach last year. I don’t even want to hear that bs.
His brother was out multiple years and faced sanctions and is top of the Big East and will be ranked Top 20.
All those kids on Xavier could have left. They didn’t.
That’s soft as shit giving him a pass because he didn’t coach last year.
Archie whiffed on getting higher impart kids such as Femi, N’Guessan and Durogordon. Had to settle for what we currently have.
3 of their starters are 5th year seniors, including one transfer. Sean obviously had to recruit them to stay instead of playing professionally.Jersey77 wrote: ↑1 year agoLook at what Archie came into compared to Sean.Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year ago Sorry, not giving him a pass because he didn’t coach last year. I don’t even want to hear that bs.
His brother was out multiple years and faced sanctions and is top of the Big East and will be ranked Top 20.
All those kids on Xavier could have left. They didn’t.
That’s soft as shit giving him a pass because he didn’t coach last year.
Archie whiffed on getting higher impart kids such as Femi, N’Guessan and Durogordon. Had to settle for what we currently have.
No comparison, not even close.
Sean did have his issues at Arizona, but he has a strong resume.
Top 10 winning % among all active NCAA coaches.
Also produced 13 players drafted in the NBA including 5 lottery picks.
Not to mention his previous success at Xavier.
Why would any of those players leave from the previous season?
I hear ya. Archie had to recruit Carey, Martin, Thomas and Ish to stay.Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year ago3 of their starters are 5th year seniors, including one transfer. Sean obviously had to recruit them to stay instead of playing professionally.Jersey77 wrote: ↑1 year agoLook at what Archie came into compared to Sean.Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year ago Sorry, not giving him a pass because he didn’t coach last year. I don’t even want to hear that bs.
His brother was out multiple years and faced sanctions and is top of the Big East and will be ranked Top 20.
All those kids on Xavier could have left. They didn’t.
That’s soft as shit giving him a pass because he didn’t coach last year.
Archie whiffed on getting higher impart kids such as Femi, N’Guessan and Durogordon. Had to settle for what we currently have.
No comparison, not even close.
Sean did have his issues at Arizona, but he has a strong resume.
Top 10 winning % among all active NCAA coaches.
Also produced 13 players drafted in the NBA including 5 lottery picks.
Not to mention his previous success at Xavier.
Why would any of those players leave from the previous season?
I don’t know, I just have a hard time giving Archie a pass and basically punting away this season.
I expected .500 ball this season, and no way did I think we’d struggled to win 10 games.
I am sure Archie is also very disappointed, I don't think he purposely punted.Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year ago3 of their starters are 5th year seniors, including one transfer. Sean obviously had to recruit them to stay instead of playing professionally.Jersey77 wrote: ↑1 year agoLook at what Archie came into compared to Sean.Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year ago Sorry, not giving him a pass because he didn’t coach last year. I don’t even want to hear that bs.
His brother was out multiple years and faced sanctions and is top of the Big East and will be ranked Top 20.
All those kids on Xavier could have left. They didn’t.
That’s soft as shit giving him a pass because he didn’t coach last year.
Archie whiffed on getting higher impart kids such as Femi, N’Guessan and Durogordon. Had to settle for what we currently have.
No comparison, not even close.
Sean did have his issues at Arizona, but he has a strong resume.
Top 10 winning % among all active NCAA coaches.
Also produced 13 players drafted in the NBA including 5 lottery picks.
Not to mention his previous success at Xavier.
Why would any of those players leave from the previous season?
I don’t know, I just have a hard time giving Archie a pass and basically punting away this season.
I expected .500 ball this season, and no way did I think we’d struggled to win 10 games.
I agree, Jersey. Sean inherited a much better program than Archie.Jersey77 wrote: ↑1 year agoLook at what Archie came into compared to Sean.Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year ago Sorry, not giving him a pass because he didn’t coach last year. I don’t even want to hear that bs.
His brother was out multiple years and faced sanctions and is top of the Big East and will be ranked Top 20.
All those kids on Xavier could have left. They didn’t.
That’s soft as shit giving him a pass because he didn’t coach last year.
Archie whiffed on getting higher impart kids such as Femi, N’Guessan and Durogordon. Had to settle for what we currently have.
No comparison, not even close.
Sean did have his issues at Arizona, but he has a strong resume.
Top 10 winning % among all active NCAA coaches.
Also produced 13 players drafted in the NBA including 5 lottery picks.
Not to mention his previous success at Xavier.
Why would any of those players leave from the previous season?
Yes, Archie knows what is needed. He took over a mismanaged situation that should never been allowed to occur.bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago We just offered a 6’9” juco forward which would indicate Archie knows we need bigs ready to play to balance all the youth.
Not saying he will or won’t, but that’s not really his track record. He gets system guys and the system wins games. That was one of the things that frustrated the Indiana people.theblueram wrote: ↑1 year ago I just want to see his first big recruit. A cornerstone. To get national attention on this program. To get things moving. Hope it happens soon.
Don’t tell that to blueram, 99.8% of his posts are him just saying he’s waiting to get top 100 4* kids. That gets you a little ESPN blurb which I guess automatically makes your team good.PCFriars wrote: ↑1 year agoNot saying he will or won’t, but that’s not really his track record. He gets system guys and the system wins games. That was one of the things that frustrated the Indiana people.theblueram wrote: ↑1 year ago I just want to see his first big recruit. A cornerstone. To get national attention on this program. To get things moving. Hope it happens soon.
Yep a system which is proven to work in the A10PCFriars wrote: ↑1 year agoNot saying he will or won’t, but that’s not really his track record. He gets system guys and the system wins games. That was one of the things that frustrated the Indiana people.theblueram wrote: ↑1 year ago I just want to see his first big recruit. A cornerstone. To get national attention on this program. To get things moving. Hope it happens soon.
I believe it's 99.9% of my posts. Don't cut me short.Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year agoDon’t tell that to blueram, 99.8% of his posts are him just saying he’s waiting to get top 100 4* kids. That gets you a little ESPN blurb which I guess automatically makes your team good.PCFriars wrote: ↑1 year agoNot saying he will or won’t, but that’s not really his track record. He gets system guys and the system wins games. That was one of the things that frustrated the Indiana people.theblueram wrote: ↑1 year ago I just want to see his first big recruit. A cornerstone. To get national attention on this program. To get things moving. Hope it happens soon.
(Although Archie did get 5* Romeo Langford at Indiana which was a huge deal.)
I'll take (hope for?) the 'over' on 50%?rjv wrote: ↑1 year ago With everything that is being said.....I believe that 50% of this years players will not be on the team next year and the incoming freshmen and the portal will be utilized to achieve a great program....That is what other teams do and I believe that is what Archie will do.
Every year there will be a group of incoming Freshmen and left over Sophomores and a new group of transfers.
That is the new NCAA
Looks like Archie is looking at Juco bigs currently.rjv wrote: ↑1 year ago With everything that is being said.....I believe that 50% of this years players will not be on the team next year and the incoming freshmen and the portal will be utilized to achieve a great program....That is what other teams do and I believe that is what Archie will do.
Every year there will be a group of incoming Freshmen and left over Sophomores and a new group of transfers.
That is the new NCAA
When you consider when Archie was hired, there wasn't much left to recruit for this year.RIFan wrote: ↑1 year ago I agree they appear well coached, it’s his recruiting and talent evaluation that seems not up to expectations. Usually there is excitement and a new staff can sell a vision and at least in Dan’s case get immediate impact players. Archie has a much longer and more distinguished career than Dan did when he took over.
...could drive big turnover next year?Rhody72 wrote: ↑1 year agoWhen you consider when Archie was hired, there wasn't much left to recruit for this year.RIFan wrote: ↑1 year ago I agree they appear well coached, it’s his recruiting and talent evaluation that seems not up to expectations. Usually there is excitement and a new staff can sell a vision and at least in Dan’s case get immediate impact players. Archie has a much longer and more distinguished career than Dan did when he took over.
You’re right, he had 1 less day than Dan did, March 20 vs March 21 for uri introduction. That explains the results on the recruiting trail. Even though he now has the new transfer portal rules that Dan didnt have.Rhody72 wrote: ↑1 year agoIRIFan wrote: ↑1 year ago I agree they appear well coached, it’s his recruiting and talent evaluation that seems not up to expectations. Usually there is excitement and a new staff can sell a vision and at least in Dan’s case get immediate impact players. Archie has a much longer and more distinguished career than Dan did when he took over.
When you consider when Archie was hired, there wasn't much left to recruit for this year.
DH was actively coaching and recruiting for Wagner at the time he was hired. Archie had to start from scratch. The portal was picked over by the time Archie was hired. These are significant differences.
Let’s hope that this is the case as they are not making an NCAA tournament with this as their core. Unfortunately there are many players leaving after this year that would bother me. There are a couple players that it would be nice to develop and could be nice rotational players or maybe a starter someday, but this roster really lacks talent. Who Archie brings in next year outside of the freshman will be very important. A basketball program, unlike in football can be turned around pretty quick with 2-3 good players added to some of the players you currently haverjv wrote: ↑1 year ago With everything that is being said.....I believe that 50% of this years players will not be on the team next year and the incoming freshmen and the portal will be utilized to achieve a great program....That is what other teams do and I believe that is what Archie will do.
Every year there will be a group of incoming Freshmen and left over Sophomores and a new group of transfers.
That is the new NCAA
Dan was at least scouting players and making recruiting connections, though. And, I would note that his very first off-season, he brought in Xavier Munford (great player, but essentially a two-year rental), Mike Aaman (rugged big man, probably not the talent for the A-10 level, health issues made him transfer down), retained Jordan Hare (the eternal tease), and transfers Biggie Minnis and Alwayne Bigby. Minnis was ultimately the only one on a URI team that finished .500 or better, as a serviceable backup PG in 2014-15, before he transferred again to Wright State because Jarvis Garrett (freshman) took his starting spot by year's end.
Cry me a RiverRhody15 wrote: ↑1 year ago Sorry, not giving him a pass because he didn’t coach last year. I don’t even want to hear that bs.
His brother was out multiple years and faced sanctions and is top of the Big East and will be ranked Top 20.
All those kids on Xavier could have left. They didn’t.
That’s soft as shit giving him a pass because he didn’t coach last year.
Archie whiffed on getting higher impart kids such as Femi, N’Guessan and Durogordon. Had to settle for what we currently have.
Obviously I didn’t expect to compete for postseason tournaments this year, but also did not expect us to be this inept.
Would you rather those three, or Weston Tchkiou and Bilau?Dino611 wrote: ↑1 year agoCry me a RiverRhody15 wrote: ↑1 year ago Sorry, not giving him a pass because he didn’t coach last year. I don’t even want to hear that bs.
His brother was out multiple years and faced sanctions and is top of the Big East and will be ranked Top 20.
All those kids on Xavier could have left. They didn’t.
That’s soft as shit giving him a pass because he didn’t coach last year.
Archie whiffed on getting higher impart kids such as Femi, N’Guessan and Durogordon. Had to settle for what we currently have.
Obviously I didn’t expect to compete for postseason tournaments this year, but also did not expect us to be this inept.
The so called big transfers he “whiffed” on your talking about is funny
Femi is only averaging 20 mins and about 5 points at Seton Hall so big whiff there I guess
Nguessan is averaging 7.5 points per game, he’d definitely would help on the offensive side of the ball, but he is not a traditional big man he’d get abused if he was our only big
Durugordon is playing for Austin Peay…….. not to look down on them but his level of competition is very subpar yes he’d be nice to have but Weston will be better long term imho