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I would also add on to Ramster's comments - We don't know that this was Archie's first hire, either. Austin Carroll is already "in the building," so to speak, which means he's on our radar already. If Archie's associate head coach is some technical mastermind from Ohio, we're probably not going to know two craps about him until the hire is actually announced.
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Also- I wouldn't discount Archie's relationship with Thorr. A positive reference from both Sean and Thorr, which would most certainly lead to Archie being willing to trust him with a spot on the staff.
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Every message board fan everywhere is convinced their teams’s problems could be easily solved by simply getting a “knockdown shooter” and a “veteran assistant coach” to teach the head coach offense.SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years agoIt seems like ages ago that Bozeman was going to be our tactical wizard to shore up end-of-game decisions.ace wrote: ↑2 years ago Austin Carroll hired by David Cox- typical cost saving measure, was only here originally because of the tricky situation with his dad
Austin Carroll retained by Archie Miller- just a solid basketball move, thrilled by his skill set and potential
I’m not going to give a lot of mental energy to what is likely the third assistant of an A10 team but C’MON!
And yes, I know, you trust Archie. It’s still funny.
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Ya, I think you're missing the point here. Ramster and I didn't say he was a proven recruiter. He's not. We noted from our encounters with him he seemed like a hard-working, high-energy assistant who connected with the team. Blueram said that he has no recruiting ability, so Ramster brought up that he has recruited players. Yes, these aren't home runs, but it still proves that Carroll can close the deal with some kids.KingstonLane wrote: ↑2 years agoNo, I don't mind the hire at all. But my point is Austin isn't some proven recruiter. Im taking a shot in the dark that Archie didn't hire him for that reasonramster wrote: ↑2 years agoYou are contradicting yourself.KingstonLane wrote: ↑2 years ago
This board changes direction more often than the wind lol.
I'm completely in the camp of trust Archie, and could care less if that means retaining Austin or someone else.
But I don't think we should be bragging about his recruiting chops because he got us the Providence kid with no offers and the MAC transfer who's production dropped by 60% in the A10.
1st you completely trust Archie, then you question the bragging that took place. Obvious you don't care for the hire. Which is fine.
It's really the Head Coach that steers the recruiting ship. Success or failure in recruiting freshmen and the all important Portal is with the HC at the end of the day.
My issue is people find something wrong with everything on here. Thinking that we would land 3 home run assistants was never going to happen. Austin can now learn from another Miller and continue to improve as a coach.
I trust Archie!
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I think people are a bit salty on Austin for a few reasons....
1. I think they saw him as a one for one, when his Dad got ill and URI didn't want to fire him for humanitarian reasons, so we took his son in.
2. We have had such a bad few years and with no great recruits and unable to retain our better players, it is easy to blame the entire coaching staff.
I am willing to see what Austin can bring to a new program, with a new coach, new energy and a new mandate. If Sean Miller saw something in him, and Archie is willing to test him with a position, I think I'll wait and see what Austin can bring to the table.
1. I think they saw him as a one for one, when his Dad got ill and URI didn't want to fire him for humanitarian reasons, so we took his son in.
2. We have had such a bad few years and with no great recruits and unable to retain our better players, it is easy to blame the entire coaching staff.
I am willing to see what Austin can bring to a new program, with a new coach, new energy and a new mandate. If Sean Miller saw something in him, and Archie is willing to test him with a position, I think I'll wait and see what Austin can bring to the table.
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So what are these head coaches waiting for then?!ace wrote: ↑2 years agoEvery message board fan everywhere is convinced their teams’s problems could be easily solved by simply getting a “knockdown shooter” and a “veteran assistant coach” to teach the head coach offense.SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years agoIt seems like ages ago that Bozeman was going to be our tactical wizard to shore up end-of-game decisions.ace wrote: ↑2 years ago Austin Carroll hired by David Cox- typical cost saving measure, was only here originally because of the tricky situation with his dad
Austin Carroll retained by Archie Miller- just a solid basketball move, thrilled by his skill set and potential
I’m not going to give a lot of mental energy to what is likely the third assistant of an A10 team but C’MON!
And yes, I know, you trust Archie. It’s still funny.
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You could possibly add a third reason:LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑2 years ago I think people are a bit salty on Austin for a few reasons....
1. I think they saw him as a one for one, when his Dad got ill and URI didn't want to fire him for humanitarian reasons, so we took his son in.
2. We have had such a bad few years and with no great recruits and unable to retain our better players, it is easy to blame the entire coaching staff.
I am willing to see what Austin can bring to a new program, with a new coach, new energy and a new mandate. If Sean Miller saw something in him, and Archie is willing to test him with a position, I think I'll wait and see what Austin can bring to the table.
3. If we were going to retain one of the green assistants, why not TJ? We have no real connection to Austin, we do with TJ. Of course the connection with Archie is more vital and that's where Austin gets the nod
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I admit I didn’t know too much about Austin but Stevie and Ramster turned me on to him think it’s a very nice 3rd assistant if that’s his role
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The Assistant Coaches are all on 1 year contracts anyway.LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑2 years ago I think people are a bit salty on Austin for a few reasons....
1. I think they saw him as a one for one, when his Dad got ill and URI didn't want to fire him for humanitarian reasons, so we took his son in.
2. We have had such a bad few years and with no great recruits and unable to retain our better players, it is easy to blame the entire coaching staff.
I am willing to see what Austin can bring to a new program, with a new coach, new energy and a new mandate. If Sean Miller saw something in him, and Archie is willing to test him with a position, I think I'll wait and see what Austin can bring to the table.
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I can't understand your viewpoints because I cannot listen to reasonable opinions. Everything is great or everything is shit. No room at KBB for level headed discussion.LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑2 years ago I think people are a bit salty on Austin for a few reasons....
1. I think they saw him as a one for one, when his Dad got ill and URI didn't want to fire him for humanitarian reasons, so we took his son in.
2. We have had such a bad few years and with no great recruits and unable to retain our better players, it is easy to blame the entire coaching staff.
I am willing to see what Austin can bring to a new program, with a new coach, new energy and a new mandate. If Sean Miller saw something in him, and Archie is willing to test him with a position, I think I'll wait and see what Austin can bring to the table.
With Coach Cox, everything was shit. Players, shit. Coaches, shit. Warmups, shit. Uniforms, shit. Timeouts, shit (ok this one is true).
With Coach Miller, everything is great. Press conference, great. Jacket, great. Interviews, great. Program improvements, great.
Now we have something (Austin) that was shit and now it is great. Breaks the KBB mind.
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They’re just dumb, I guessRhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑2 years agoSo what are these head coaches waiting for then?!ace wrote: ↑2 years agoEvery message board fan everywhere is convinced their teams’s problems could be easily solved by simply getting a “knockdown shooter” and a “veteran assistant coach” to teach the head coach offense.SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years ago
It seems like ages ago that Bozeman was going to be our tactical wizard to shore up end-of-game decisions.
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I think this is a huge exaggeration.phipsiGD'11 wrote: ↑2 years agoI can't understand your viewpoints because I cannot listen to reasonable opinions. Everything is great or everything is shit. No room at KBB for level headed discussion.LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑2 years ago I think people are a bit salty on Austin for a few reasons....
1. I think they saw him as a one for one, when his Dad got ill and URI didn't want to fire him for humanitarian reasons, so we took his son in.
2. We have had such a bad few years and with no great recruits and unable to retain our better players, it is easy to blame the entire coaching staff.
I am willing to see what Austin can bring to a new program, with a new coach, new energy and a new mandate. If Sean Miller saw something in him, and Archie is willing to test him with a position, I think I'll wait and see what Austin can bring to the table.
With Coach Cox, everything was shit. Players, shit. Coaches, shit. Warmups, shit. Uniforms, shit. Timeouts, shit (ok this one is true).
With Coach Miller, everything is great. Press conference, great. Jacket, great. Interviews, great. Program improvements, great.
Now we have something (Austin) that was shit and now it is great. Breaks the KBB mind.
Most people thought Bozeman would be a fantastic hire and we thought Cox made the right move. Most people also said Cox deserved this season to turn things around. But, unfortunately, Bozeman didn't work out, and Cox didn't turn things around. That's why things got so negative on here. Results matter.
Austin was never shit or great. He's a 3rd assistant. Nice kid and great energy. I'm happy he's staying.
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One of the best posts of the year.phipsiGD'11 wrote: ↑2 years agoI can't understand your viewpoints because I cannot listen to reasonable opinions. Everything is great or everything is shit. No room at KBB for level headed discussion.LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑2 years ago I think people are a bit salty on Austin for a few reasons....
1. I think they saw him as a one for one, when his Dad got ill and URI didn't want to fire him for humanitarian reasons, so we took his son in.
2. We have had such a bad few years and with no great recruits and unable to retain our better players, it is easy to blame the entire coaching staff.
I am willing to see what Austin can bring to a new program, with a new coach, new energy and a new mandate. If Sean Miller saw something in him, and Archie is willing to test him with a position, I think I'll wait and see what Austin can bring to the table.
With Coach Cox, everything was shit. Players, shit. Coaches, shit. Warmups, shit. Uniforms, shit. Timeouts, shit (ok this one is true).
With Coach Miller, everything is great. Press conference, great. Jacket, great. Interviews, great. Program improvements, great.
Now we have something (Austin) that was shit and now it is great. Breaks the KBB mind.
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I have spoken favorably about Austin when he was hired, again after I talked to him at his 1st Season Ticket holder Event at the Ryan Center, again after talking to him last summer……… I did NOT change my stance about Austin after the hiring of Miller. I also have commented in the past favorably about Austin’s dad who is imho very knowledgeable and was a good asset to David Cox. I only spoke up because some were criticizing his selection by Miller.phipsiGD'11 wrote: ↑2 years agoI can't understand your viewpoints because I cannot listen to reasonable opinions. Everything is great or everything is shit. No room at KBB for level headed discussion.LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑2 years ago I think people are a bit salty on Austin for a few reasons....
1. I think they saw him as a one for one, when his Dad got ill and URI didn't want to fire him for humanitarian reasons, so we took his son in.
2. We have had such a bad few years and with no great recruits and unable to retain our better players, it is easy to blame the entire coaching staff.
I am willing to see what Austin can bring to a new program, with a new coach, new energy and a new mandate. If Sean Miller saw something in him, and Archie is willing to test him with a position, I think I'll wait and see what Austin can bring to the table.
With Coach Cox, everything was shit. Players, shit. Coaches, shit. Warmups, shit. Uniforms, shit. Timeouts, shit (ok this one is true).
With Coach Miller, everything is great. Press conference, great. Jacket, great. Interviews, great. Program improvements, great.
Now we have something (Austin) that was shit and now it is great. Breaks the KBB mind.
Surprised, to to be honest, that Miller’s very 1st hire would get questioned. Short honeymoon.
I would agree Cox couldn’t do a single thing right per KB but of course that’s not possible.
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Ah yes, The X’s and O’s Guyace wrote: ↑2 years agoEvery message board fan everywhere is convinced their teams’s problems could be easily solved by simply getting a “knockdown shooter” and a “veteran assistant coach” to teach the head coach offense.SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years agoIt seems like ages ago that Bozeman was going to be our tactical wizard to shore up end-of-game decisions.ace wrote: ↑2 years ago Austin Carroll hired by David Cox- typical cost saving measure, was only here originally because of the tricky situation with his dad
Austin Carroll retained by Archie Miller- just a solid basketball move, thrilled by his skill set and potential
I’m not going to give a lot of mental energy to what is likely the third assistant of an A10 team but C’MON!
And yes, I know, you trust Archie. It’s still funny.
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I trust Arch on this one nice hire
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The Dan “needs a veteran Coach” bit was always one of my favorites. He literally has had a veteran coach in his ear since birth.ramster wrote: ↑2 years agoAh yes, The X’s and O’s Guyace wrote: ↑2 years agoEvery message board fan everywhere is convinced their teams’s problems could be easily solved by simply getting a “knockdown shooter” and a “veteran assistant coach” to teach the head coach offense.SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years ago
It seems like ages ago that Bozeman was going to be our tactical wizard to shore up end-of-game decisions.
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Only time will tell if Austin is a good hire. And Miller.
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Another possibility, even though they weren't together at Indiana, is Dana Fife. Good resume with 10 years with Tom Izzo.
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Agree. Only hangup in my mind is that Fife's recruiting connections appear to be exclusively in the midwest. That said, if he can open a pipeline there...
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I think one of my favorite resent posts by people was Bozeman was going to be a cure all for Cox and the team.bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years agoThe Dan “needs a veteran Coach” bit was always one of my favorites. He literally has had a veteran coach in his ear since birth.
Guy looked absolutely lifeless on the bench 95% of the time.
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I thought he was asleep one time. I didn’t see him move for about 10 minutes.Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 years agoI think one of my favorite resent posts by people was Bozeman was going to be a cure all for Cox and the team.bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years agoThe Dan “needs a veteran Coach” bit was always one of my favorites. He literally has had a veteran coach in his ear since birth.
Guy looked absolutely lifeless on the bench 95% of the time.
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He blended in well then with the 1200 fans in their seatssteveystuds06 wrote: ↑2 years agoI thought he was asleep one time. I didn’t see him move for about 10 minutes.Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 years agoI think one of my favorite resent posts by people was Bozeman was going to be a cure all for Cox and the team.bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago
The Dan “needs a veteran Coach” bit was always one of my favorites. He literally has had a veteran coach in his ear since birth.
Guy looked absolutely lifeless on the bench 95% of the time.
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Cox isolated himself. Can't blame anyone else.
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. That is correct. Once they enter the portal all scholarship commitments from the original school are no longer in effect.theblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoI believe that's correct. Every URI player in the portal would have to be recruited here by Archie Miller. Good luck.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑2 years ago I'm not finding it negative, I just thought it was funny because most of the players are in the portal. My position's pretty clear, whoever Arch hires, including this guy, is perfect. Your description makes him seem like a good dude, nothing negative...
Speaking of the portal...when you say "left the option to come back", they can't just say nevermind portal, I'm back to Rhody, the coach has to offer a scholarship all over again, right?
This was why I never understood why players enter the portal unless they “know” where they would likely wind up. For example, AB enters the portal coming off a knee rebuild and no real Rhody track record, hardly - a slam dunk to upgrade your situation.
I feel very confident Archie has given them all a deadline if they want to come back- he is going to be active in the portal immediately and will not be held hostage by players who are not sure they want to play for:him.
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I might have said veteran coach but it was in the context of offensive coordinator type. DH raises the floor of a program. And, in retrospect, I don't think I valued that as much as I probably should have. I would like to think that I can keep an honest perspective on it. I am not sure he is a ceiling type coach, though. That 2018 team had way more offensive talent than it might have felt like in the moment. Not having a top 50 offense with those pieces probably limited the ceiling. Cox and Moore not known for offense. I guess you had to have Ty Boswell for, well, that's another thread And ARD, Cox, Murray the year before. Just would have had one of those guys be a spot, since the recruiting was humming, be a guy who could build out an elite offense. I always loved Al so and he built about a dozen great offenses at URI and BC but the hire could have been 35 years old for all I care. a 35 year old just won the Super Bowl with an innovative offense. Anyway, back to this thread. If Sean and Archie like what Austin has to offer, that is good enough for me. You clearly aren't keeping him for roster continuity. The fact that he is staying is a big positive for me.bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years agoThe Dan “needs a veteran Coach” bit was always one of my favorites. He literally has had a veteran coach in his ear since birth.
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I suspect that AB and others who have their names in the portal have at least one school lined up before doing so. The usual suspects are either programs that recruited them in the past (using our own experience, see Jared Terrell) or the AAU and coaching networks associated with their hometowns (or, why we ended up with a lot of Maryland and D.C. transfers while Cox was here).McRam wrote: ↑2 years ago. That is correct. Once they enter the portal all scholarship commitments from the original school are no longer in effect.theblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoI believe that's correct. Every URI player in the portal would have to be recruited here by Archie Miller. Good luck.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑2 years ago I'm not finding it negative, I just thought it was funny because most of the players are in the portal. My position's pretty clear, whoever Arch hires, including this guy, is perfect. Your description makes him seem like a good dude, nothing negative...
Speaking of the portal...when you say "left the option to come back", they can't just say nevermind portal, I'm back to Rhody, the coach has to offer a scholarship all over again, right?
This was why I never understood why players enter the portal unless they “know” where they would likely wind up. For example, AB enters the portal coming off a knee rebuild and no real Rhody track record, hardly - a slam dunk to upgrade your situation.
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Thorr just said that Archie wants to announce the staff when all of the coaching positions are filled. Should be finalized within the next week or two.
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Here were my notes from Thorr on WPRO:
-Archie top of their list but had mutual interest was right away
-offered him top 3 investments in a10 across travel, salaries, player nutrition/equipment, etc
-Archie wants to announce staff all at once. Should be in 1-2 weeks
-lots of interest in staff positions
-he’s been recruiting hard already
-holding player practices as well
Anybody who listened, please feel free to add any details or corrections.
-Archie top of their list but had mutual interest was right away
-offered him top 3 investments in a10 across travel, salaries, player nutrition/equipment, etc
-Archie wants to announce staff all at once. Should be in 1-2 weeks
-lots of interest in staff positions
-he’s been recruiting hard already
-holding player practices as well
Anybody who listened, please feel free to add any details or corrections.
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Thanks CamsRams. Appreciate the summary.
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I feel like you covered it well. A lot of it was stuff we already knew from following closely
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Good to hear about the assistants. I’m really curious on who they’ll be.
Are the players who are practicing just those who aren’t in the portal?
Are the players who are practicing just those who aren’t in the portal?
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I would guess Archie is holding individual player workouts....not enough players left to play 5 on 5, not even close.
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Bone, there are 4 players left and none should be a starter. I'm guessing Archie is recruiting.rambone 78 wrote: ↑2 years ago I would guess Archie is holding individual player workouts....not enough players left to play 5 on 5, not even close.
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I agree, also. Howard would be an excellent hire. Are you guy’s hearing any rumors linking us to Howard or are we just pissing in the wind? I’m hoping for the former; will have to change my shoes with the later. Lol!
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Not sure if Arch knows Howard at all but a phone call to him to gauge his interest would be nice
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25 years ago Jim Harrick identified the 3 things that he needed assistant coaches to do. It is as true today as it was back then. Clue: they are easy to remember.
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Talking to someone who had worked for Coach Howard regarding what he may do next year, they mentioned a few assistant jobs at P5 schools, including 1 that just hired a new coach. I didn't ask but URI wasn't mentioned.
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I'll take a cheap shot...recruit, lie, and cover-up. (C'mon, it's OK to laugh.)
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A real coach! Good NYC/Jersey connections.
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Slava Ukraini!
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Is he Brian Woodword’s brother or am I making that up?
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So, would Woodward be the top assistant? Or #2 assistant?
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That would be awesome
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- Frank Keaney
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