Then give me some Jameis! Would love to see that guy on a regular basis. Multiple spectacular plays per game (for both teams!)
I might even start to cheer for the Pats if they got him...
TruePoint wrote: ↑4 years ago Bill is under contract and Tom isn’t, so it seems much more likely that Tom will go than Bill. Bill also has an infrastructure here that he relies on that he built and has maintained for over 20 years. At his age and stage of career, I doubt very much he wants to try to remake that somewhere else. It would be vaguely poetic for Tom to go to Vegas and officially enter the Vegas-residency stage of his career like so many pop musicians have in the past. I think he’d be more likely to end up in LA with the Chargers or in Tampa. Both of those places can offer something to him (namely offenses with good weapons) and to his family (whether and lifestyle amenities to accommodate the rich and famous). I doubt Giselle wants to send her kids to school in Vegas for a a few years. Doesn’t seem like her kind of town.
I think he's a really nice fit for the Bucs - Obviously, his arm strength isn't what it used to be, but he's still very good at avoiding interceptions, which was Winston's biggest weakness. Simply not turning the ball over is probably worth 2 to 4 wins for the Bucs, and given how stellar Evans is, and the potential of Godwin, Perriman and Howard, there's some reason to believe that Brady's numbers could improve too.RIrugger01 wrote: ↑4 years ago Being a Bucs fan I’m a bit conflicted about this. Do you guys think he has anything left in the tank? We do have more weapons thank you did in New England last year. But our o-line sucks. I hope he doesn’t get killed back there. I was never a Brady fan but I respected him as being one of the greatest. I would have liked to see him retire as a Pat. But, I guess we have a new starting an now. Anything is better than Famous Jameis.
Not sure about the W-L record, but I would bet his stats in TB next year, will look a lot better than his stats this past year.SGreenwell wrote: ↑4 years agoI think he's a really nice fit for the Bucs - Obviously, his arm strength isn't what it used to be, but he's still very good at avoiding interceptions, which was Winston's biggest weakness. Simply not turning the ball over is probably worth 2 to 4 wins for the Bucs, and given how stellar Evans is, and the potential of Godwin, Perriman and Howard, there's some reason to believe that Brady's numbers could improve too.RIrugger01 wrote: ↑4 years ago Being a Bucs fan I’m a bit conflicted about this. Do you guys think he has anything left in the tank? We do have more weapons thank you did in New England last year. But our o-line sucks. I hope he doesn’t get killed back there. I was never a Brady fan but I respected him as being one of the greatest. I would have liked to see him retire as a Pat. But, I guess we have a new starting an now. Anything is better than Famous Jameis.
It’s a great addition for Tampa Bay. Football is so huge in the South. Tampa area has so much to look forward to now. Makes the NFC South interesting with Drew Brees and Tom Brady go head to head twice per year. Plus throw in veteran Matt Ryan and that’s 3 very good veteran QBs in one Division.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 years agoNot sure about the W-L record, but I would bet his stats in TB next year, will look a lot better than his stats this past year.SGreenwell wrote: ↑4 years agoI think he's a really nice fit for the Bucs - Obviously, his arm strength isn't what it used to be, but he's still very good at avoiding interceptions, which was Winston's biggest weakness. Simply not turning the ball over is probably worth 2 to 4 wins for the Bucs, and given how stellar Evans is, and the potential of Godwin, Perriman and Howard, there's some reason to believe that Brady's numbers could improve too.RIrugger01 wrote: ↑4 years ago Being a Bucs fan I’m a bit conflicted about this. Do you guys think he has anything left in the tank? We do have more weapons thank you did in New England last year. But our o-line sucks. I hope he doesn’t get killed back there. I was never a Brady fan but I respected him as being one of the greatest. I would have liked to see him retire as a Pat. But, I guess we have a new starting an now. Anything is better than Famous Jameis.
Lived in St. Pete during the Vinny Testaverde years...they must all be jakked-up down there for "TB12 in TB"
Tom's been taking a discounted salary for a long, long time. It's his turn to make what he wants. Brady is a winner, on top of the game, what more does he need? Let him get paid. If the Patriots don't want to tie up the money in him, that is their decision.rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑4 years ago This is the best thing for the Pats. I will bet when all is said and done, it comes out that the Pats offered him a "bad" deal. I'm going to bet the "bad" part of it will be the years. I'll bet BB was willing to sign him for 2 years max but after that would be done because by that time Tom would be 45 and they'd want to have a future plan at QB. My guess: He signs for 4 years, $100 million, $60 million guaranteed, some type of player option after two years or 5 years, 125 million, $90 guaranteed, player option after 3. I'd be shocked if he signed for only two years/60-70 million.
I think if I had season tickets, I'd defer to 2021. To me not worth a chance to get sick from attending the games this year. As a world, we still do not know enough about the coronavirus.rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑4 years ago The Dolphins fan proposal was interesting.
-Roughly 25% capacity.
-There would be a specific window of time you would have to arrive at a specific gate to minimize traffic.
-Rows would exit the arena like church where you go one row at a time.
-Food lines would be done carry-out style (whatever that means).
-6 feet distance in all areas required at all times.
Would mean season ticket holders displaced, if they even get tickets at all. Interesting ideas...
I haven't vetted out this topic in a while, but I think when all is said and done, we'll find out the move to Tampa was more about his lack of interest in playing for Bill and less about the finances. Very similar to someone like Gronk who was fine sacrificing his contract until Tom lands in Tampa and he magically is interested in playing again.RI_Rams wrote: ↑4 years agoTom's been taking a discounted salary for a long, long time. It's his turn to make what he wants. Brady is a winner, on top of the game, what more does he need? Let him get paid. If the Patriots don't want to tie up the money in him, that is their decision.rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑4 years ago This is the best thing for the Pats. I will bet when all is said and done, it comes out that the Pats offered him a "bad" deal. I'm going to bet the "bad" part of it will be the years. I'll bet BB was willing to sign him for 2 years max but after that would be done because by that time Tom would be 45 and they'd want to have a future plan at QB. My guess: He signs for 4 years, $100 million, $60 million guaranteed, some type of player option after two years or 5 years, 125 million, $90 guaranteed, player option after 3. I'd be shocked if he signed for only two years/60-70 million.
That could point also to not wanting to continue playing for Bill. Gronk must have a much closer relationship with Tom.rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑4 years agoI haven't vetted out this topic in a while, but I think when all is said and done, we'll find out the move to Tampa was more about his lack of interest in playing for Bill and less about the finances. Very similar to someone like Gronk who was fine sacrificing his contract until Tom lands in Tampa and he magically is interested in playing again.RI_Rams wrote: ↑4 years agoTom's been taking a discounted salary for a long, long time. It's his turn to make what he wants. Brady is a winner, on top of the game, what more does he need? Let him get paid. If the Patriots don't want to tie up the money in him, that is their decision.rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑4 years ago This is the best thing for the Pats. I will bet when all is said and done, it comes out that the Pats offered him a "bad" deal. I'm going to bet the "bad" part of it will be the years. I'll bet BB was willing to sign him for 2 years max but after that would be done because by that time Tom would be 45 and they'd want to have a future plan at QB. My guess: He signs for 4 years, $100 million, $60 million guaranteed, some type of player option after two years or 5 years, 125 million, $90 guaranteed, player option after 3. I'd be shocked if he signed for only two years/60-70 million.
Looks like a done deal. Brady to Newton. What a freakin' joke.
^this^
That's the million dollar question, of course. I'd be worried if I was a fan of another team, but an incentive-laden, one year deal with the Patriots is pretty much the perfect thing for the team when it comes to Newton. If he's not healthy, or if he can't play effectively because of past injuries, or if he can't adapt to relying less on his legs, I imagine Belichick is going to cut him pretty quick.
Bill probably would do just that. But for right now, the starting job is his to lose.SGreenwell wrote: ↑4 years agoThat's the million dollar question, of course. I'd be worried if I was a fan of another team, but an incentive-laden, one year deal with the Patriots is pretty much the perfect thing for the team when it comes to Newton. If he's not healthy, or if he can't play effectively because of past injuries, or if he can't adapt to relying less on his legs, I imagine Belichick is going to cut him pretty quick.
I don't know if any of those guys are true #1 WRs... but if Edelman can stay healthy he is always a threat. To be fair, I don't think Sanu "wowed" anyone last year. Harry still has to prove himself.
Except for the background it looks like a police photo after being busted for DWI