Fatts (Grad Transfer to Maryland)
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No way.
I dont expect him to struggle that much longer. I mean he went almost the entire year without struggling at all. I just see his current downfall as a normal slump. Dont think it will necessarily continue into next year.
He will also have way more help. Defenses have keyed on him big time lately. With more help itll open up for him.
He also just needs a few shots to fall and it's on again.
I dont expect him to struggle that much longer. I mean he went almost the entire year without struggling at all. I just see his current downfall as a normal slump. Dont think it will necessarily continue into next year.
He will also have way more help. Defenses have keyed on him big time lately. With more help itll open up for him.
He also just needs a few shots to fall and it's on again.
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- Ernie Calverley
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This is what they have. I think Fatts is essential.
Russell
(Sheppard)
Harris
Martin
Walker
(Johnson)
Long
Toppin
Leggett*
Wood*
(open)
(open)
(open)
I want Fatts to have the year Christian Vital’s had. It took a ton of work and coaching and buying in, but when it works, it’s a special thing to watch.
Russell
(Sheppard)
Harris
Martin
Walker
(Johnson)
Long
Toppin
Leggett*
Wood*
(open)
(open)
(open)
I want Fatts to have the year Christian Vital’s had. It took a ton of work and coaching and buying in, but when it works, it’s a special thing to watch.
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.......I would be pissed, and above.......regarding “he will have way help.......” did I miss something?bigappleram wrote: ↑4 years ago Hell no!! Coach him up. But we are an infinitely worse team next year without him.
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I'd be indifferent. If Fatts left when Hurley did I think you could make the argument it would have been more helpful in the long run but at this point if we want any hope of making the tournament next year then we absolutely need Fatts.Rhodyhooopz wrote: ↑4 years ago Ok so doing a lot of thinking last few days and I have a question for all of KB nation.
If this new transfer rule comes into play and Fatts decides to transfer to a higher level school would you be happy or pissed?
Although it would make next year harder for you think it would be helpful to the program in the long run?
By saying that it would allow younger players more playing time now and more time to get together.
I am not saying I hope he goes but jus tendering peoples opinions.
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You guys are idiots. Four games ago people were talking about Fatts being one of the all-time greatest players at URI. Now you’re wondering if he has a spot on the team. Comments like this greatly diminish the credibility that the KB board offers. I get it it’s somebody’s opinion, but it sounds completely moronic when people pile on.
Feel free to root for another program if you’re going to constantly bash the team.. it doesn’t help.
Feel free to root for another program if you’re going to constantly bash the team.. it doesn’t help.
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It was literally one person, maybe one and a half.SandorClegane wrote: ↑4 years ago You guys are idiots. Four games ago people were talking about Fatts being one of the all-time greatest players at URI. Now you’re wondering if he has a spot on the team. Comments like this greatly diminish the credibility that the KB board offers. I get it it’s somebody’s opinion, but it sounds completely moronic when people pile on.
Feel free to root for another program if you’re going to constantly bash the team.. it doesn’t help.
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I would be very pissed. I can't really think of a situation where your best player leaving would ever be a good thing.Rhodyhooopz wrote: ↑4 years ago Ok so doing a lot of thinking last few days and I have a question for all of KB nation.
If this new transfer rule comes into play and Fatts decides to transfer to a higher level school would you be happy or pissed?
Although it would make next year harder for you think it would be helpful to the program in the long run?
By saying that it would allow younger players more playing time now and more time to get together.
I am not saying I hope he goes but jus tendering peoples opinions.
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Let’s be honest. He has been off his game recently and has not shot well, but will be the best player on our team next year. Every single player on this team is accountable for this collapse. He isn’t as good as he showed early in the year and isn’t as bad as he has played recently.adam914 wrote: ↑4 years agoI would be very pissed. I can't really think of a situation where your best player leaving would ever be a good thing.Rhodyhooopz wrote: ↑4 years ago Ok so doing a lot of thinking last few days and I have a question for all of KB nation.
If this new transfer rule comes into play and Fatts decides to transfer to a higher level school would you be happy or pissed?
Although it would make next year harder for you think it would be helpful to the program in the long run?
By saying that it would allow younger players more playing time now and more time to get together.
I am not saying I hope he goes but jus tendering peoples opinions.
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Yeah, he's streaky, always has been and probably always will be. The hope would be that when he is off there are others there to pick up the slack. That hasn't been the case as of late. But bottom line he is still the 3rd leading scorer in the conference. Losing him for next year would be a disaster.RamStock wrote: ↑4 years agoLet’s be honest. He has been off his game recently and has no shot well, but will be the best player on our team next year. Every single player on this team is accountable for this collapse. He isn’t as good as he showed early in the year and isn’t as bad as he has played recently.adam914 wrote: ↑4 years agoI would be very pissed. I can't really think of a situation where your best player leaving would ever be a good thing.Rhodyhooopz wrote: ↑4 years ago Ok so doing a lot of thinking last few days and I have a question for all of KB nation.
If this new transfer rule comes into play and Fatts decides to transfer to a higher level school would you be happy or pissed?
Although it would make next year harder for you think it would be helpful to the program in the long run?
By saying that it would allow younger players more playing time now and more time to get together.
I am not saying I hope he goes but jus tendering peoples opinions.
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Fatts is has consistently been the most exciting player to watch on the court this year. So explosive and confident and fun to watch. He's had a tough few games this year but give him a break. When he's on we are a really dangerous team. Without him not so much.
Keeping things in perspective...
Hurley (12-18):
Y1 8-21 (T14th), Y2 14-18 (10th), Y3 23-10 (T2nd, NIT), Y4 17-15 (7th), Y5 25-10 (T3rd, NCAA), Y6 26-8 (1st, NCAA).
Miller (22-?):
Y1 9-22 (14th), Y2 12-20 (T10th).
Hurley (12-18):
Y1 8-21 (T14th), Y2 14-18 (10th), Y3 23-10 (T2nd, NIT), Y4 17-15 (7th), Y5 25-10 (T3rd, NCAA), Y6 26-8 (1st, NCAA).
Miller (22-?):
Y1 9-22 (14th), Y2 12-20 (T10th).
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Good take!
He has been automatic from that area.
I also would like to see us basically refuse to take threes unless they are wide open.
Jeff, Rese, Harris, Toppin all need to try and take it to the hoop more.
Just need more aggression on both ends of the court.
That's how we got out of the slump before.
Cox said they got back to defensive principals and it carried our energy into every facet of the game.
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This time last year I was drawing unfortunate comparisons to Akeem Richmond. Ain't no way anyone goes from that to the best player in the country in a calendar year. So Fatts was bound for a regression at some point, but short of getting a tough rebound there is NO ONE I'd rather go to battle with when it's nut crunching time.
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First off if you read the post I said I am not saying I hope he goes.
I was just trying to see how people felt.
I do find it funny that people think that next years team will be better than this years. Based on what losing a top 3 PG in program history and a warrior down low. Go ahead try and replace that.
It’s funny how people react to other’s opinions on the internet. Exactly why society is the way it is. No respect for others opinions.
I have watched almost 40 years of URI hoops sitting around The same people for most of those years. I know what this program is and guess what there really hasn’t been any improvement in this program since the Ryan Center was built 20 years ago. With double the ticket sales and higher prices nothing much changes.
A few good years here and there then back to the middle of the pack. After the few good years the coach leaves and we start all over again.
We are who we are. Unless someone hits powerball and decides to give URI BASKETBALL a ton of money that can only be spent on basketball then this is what we get.
So don’t say that my question about Fatts is the reason this program is the way it is. It’s the way it is because this university is cash strapped and can’t afford it to be any other way. Too many sports that take a pot of money to run. Look at the track program. Most successful program at the school yet they don’t have an outdoor facility because the old one has been condemned since I was a student in the 80’s.
Think Big, We do! Unless we have to find the money to do something.
I was just trying to see how people felt.
I do find it funny that people think that next years team will be better than this years. Based on what losing a top 3 PG in program history and a warrior down low. Go ahead try and replace that.
It’s funny how people react to other’s opinions on the internet. Exactly why society is the way it is. No respect for others opinions.
I have watched almost 40 years of URI hoops sitting around The same people for most of those years. I know what this program is and guess what there really hasn’t been any improvement in this program since the Ryan Center was built 20 years ago. With double the ticket sales and higher prices nothing much changes.
A few good years here and there then back to the middle of the pack. After the few good years the coach leaves and we start all over again.
We are who we are. Unless someone hits powerball and decides to give URI BASKETBALL a ton of money that can only be spent on basketball then this is what we get.
So don’t say that my question about Fatts is the reason this program is the way it is. It’s the way it is because this university is cash strapped and can’t afford it to be any other way. Too many sports that take a pot of money to run. Look at the track program. Most successful program at the school yet they don’t have an outdoor facility because the old one has been condemned since I was a student in the 80’s.
Think Big, We do! Unless we have to find the money to do something.
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Absolutely agree with this. I’ve stated this several times throughout the year in different threads. Play to your strengths. Three point shooting is not one of them. This applies to the entire team, not just Fatts. Forget about the “either take it to the rim or shoot a three” metrics of the modern game. Stick with the best way to score given the skills of the players on your roster.
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I LOVE CYRIL.Rhodyhooopz wrote: ↑4 years ago First off if you read the post I said I am not saying I hope he goes.
I was just trying to see how people felt.
I do find it funny that people think that next years team will be better than this years. Based on what losing a top 3 PG in program history and a warrior down low. Go ahead try and replace that.
It’s funny how people react to other’s opinions on the internet. Exactly why society is the way it is. No respect for others opinions.
I have watched almost 40 years of URI hoops sitting around The same people for most of those years. I know what this program is and guess what there really hasn’t been any improvement in this program since the Ryan Center was built 20 years ago. With double the ticket sales and higher prices nothing much changes.
A few good years here and there then back to the middle of the pack. After the few good years the coach leaves and we start all over again.
We are who we are. Unless someone hits powerball and decides to give URI BASKETBALL a ton of money that can only be spent on basketball then this is what we get.
So don’t say that my question about Fatts is the reason this program is the way it is. It’s the way it is because this university is cash strapped and can’t afford it to be any other way. Too many sports that take a pot of money to run. Look at the track program. Most successful program at the school yet they don’t have an outdoor facility because the old one has been condemned since I was a student in the 80’s.
Think Big, We do! Unless we have to find the money to do something.
However, he is easily replaceable by a 6’10 body with some post moves.
That’s all I have to say.
Jeff shoes will leave a huge void, but Sheppard is a better shooter.
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If the new transfer rule takes effect, it will absolutely destroy CBB. If players move year to year because they have a bad few weeks with no sit out period, I will officially be DONE watching. It really should not happen, there will be very little continuity in the game, the NCAA continues to show its incompetence.
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Totally agree. It will be a HUGE detriment. Why are they even considering catering to this? ME ME ME, all about ME. Getting really old really quickly.Mongo wrote: ↑4 years ago If the new transfer rule takes effect, it will absolutely destroy CBB. If players move year to year because they have a bad few weeks with no sit out period, I will officially be DONE watching. It really should not happen, there will be very little continuity in the game, the NCAA continues to show its incompetence.
Mobley was fouled.
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I wasn’t referring to everyone. Just those making those statements. The majority of the people on this board are intellectually sound individuals. A few fall outside that though.ace wrote: ↑4 years agoIt was literally one person, maybe one and a half.SandorClegane wrote: ↑4 years ago You guys are idiots. Four games ago people were talking about Fatts being one of the all-time greatest players at URI. Now you’re wondering if he has a spot on the team. Comments like this greatly diminish the credibility that the KB board offers. I get it it’s somebody’s opinion, but it sounds completely moronic when people pile on.
Feel free to root for another program if you’re going to constantly bash the team.. it doesn’t help.
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Players will only be able to transfer once though, so its not like they can keep moving around every time they have a bad few weeks.RI_Bred wrote: ↑4 years agoTotally agree. It will be a HUGE detriment. Why are they even considering catering to this? ME ME ME, all about ME. Getting really old really quickly.Mongo wrote: ↑4 years ago If the new transfer rule takes effect, it will absolutely destroy CBB. If players move year to year because they have a bad few weeks with no sit out period, I will officially be DONE watching. It really should not happen, there will be very little continuity in the game, the NCAA continues to show its incompetence.
Also, I feel like saying it shouldn't be all about "ME ME ME" (the players) is just saying it should be all about "YOU YOU YOU" (the fan) instead. I was a little iffy about the idea at first, but after thinking about it more and talking to others about it, I don't see why the interest of the fans should outweigh the interest of the players.
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WTF COX! When he’s struggling take him off the point. Switch it up. You’re giving the Ball to Jeff Dowtin Duh. Both these guys can play the role keep the defense guessing. You can actually switch it up in game constantly. As things work or they don’t. Ya think?
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Would be pissed if he goes but I don’t think he will
He has an outside shot to be our all time scorer
He is struggling of late but when he puts in his work in the summer he will be even better next year scoring over 20 a game ??
He has an outside shot to be our all time scorer
He is struggling of late but when he puts in his work in the summer he will be even better next year scoring over 20 a game ??
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Cox said they got back to defensive principals and it carried our energy into every facet of the game.
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Well it's nice to see him finally acknowledge/understand this was the key component missing during our skid these last few weeks. I responded to a tweet of Cyril's basically saying this exact thing...get back to our lockdown team D and everything will open up from there.
We have obviously had more issues than just our defense recently, but the D should show up night in and night out in the same manner (just like the Hurley era). It certainly could've helped to get us the W at Davidson, possibly against St Louis as well (despite our offensive struggles). Hell it probably could've helped get us the wins against Brown and Richmond too.
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Well it's nice to see him finally acknowledge/understand this was the key component missing during our skid these last few weeks. I responded to a tweet of Cyril's basically saying this exact thing...get back to our lockdown team D and everything will open up from there.
We have obviously had more issues than just our defense recently, but the D should show up night in and night out in the same manner (just like the Hurley era). It certainly could've helped to get us the W at Davidson, possibly against St Louis as well (despite our offensive struggles). Hell it probably could've helped get us the wins against Brown and Richmond too.
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Well it's nice to see him finally acknowledge/understand this was the key component missing during our skid these last few weeks. I responded to a tweet of Cyril's basically saying this exact thing...get back to our lockdown team D and everything will open up from there.
We have obviously had more issues than just our defense recently, but the D should show up night in and night out in the same manner (just like the Hurley era). It certainly could've helped to get us the W at Davidson, possibly against St Louis as well (despite our offensive struggles). Hell it probably could've helped get us the wins against Brown and Richmond too.
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I for one thought our D was way better. We were all over UMass.
It's just Tre Mitchell is a stud.
Defense better.
Offense a little better.
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upRamStock wrote: ↑4 years agoLet’s be honest. He has been off his game recently and has not shot well, but will be the best player on our team next year. Every single player on this team is accountable for this collapse. He isn’t as good as he showed early in the year and isn’t as bad as he has played recently.adam914 wrote: ↑4 years agoI would be very pissed. I can't really think of a situation where your best player leaving would ever be a good thing.Rhodyhooopz wrote: ↑4 years ago Ok so doing a lot of thinking last few days and I have a question for all of KB nation.
If this new transfer rule comes into play and Fatts decides to transfer to a higher level school would you be happy or pissed?
Although it would make next year harder for you think it would be helpful to the program in the long run?
By saying that it would allow younger players more playing time now and more time to get together.
I am not saying I hope he goes but jus tendering peoples opinions.
We should not solely look at "Every player on the team...." We need to look at all involved in the program and especially the entire coaching staff. Does anyone believe that the coaching from the Davidson game onward has been that of an elite" A10 program. ? Has this team gotten better as the year has progressed the same way that Richmond, St. Louis, UMass has?
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ugeRI_Bred wrote: ↑4 years agoTotally agree. It will be a HUGE detriment. Why are they even considering catering to this? ME ME ME, all about ME. Getting really old really quickly.Mongo wrote: ↑4 years ago If the new transfer rule takes effect, it will absolutely destroy CBB. If players move year to year because they have a bad few weeks with no sit out period, I will officially be DONE watching. It really should not happen, there will be very little continuity in the game, the NCAA continues to show its incompetence.
AGREE AGREE AGREE We are not the G-Leauge for so called Power 5 teams. !!!!
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Kid got it done last night, shooting was not great but with 5 assists I’ll take it. He has to shoot and drive to open up those passes and to both free throws with the pressure on. Also anyone catch the Umass fan in the Hawaiian shirt court side talking to Fatts in the first. He must have said something good because Fatts walked over exchanged words then turned back laughing
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I believe the players and the coaching are responsible. There is a lack of focus and discipline which has come to light the last three weeksMcRam wrote: ↑4 years agoupRamStock wrote: ↑4 years agoLet’s be honest. He has been off his game recently and has not shot well, but will be the best player on our team next year. Every single player on this team is accountable for this collapse. He isn’t as good as he showed early in the year and isn’t as bad as he has played recently.
We should not solely look at "Every player on the team...." We need to look at all involved in the program and especially the entire coaching staff. Does anyone believe that the coaching from the Davidson game onward has been that of an elite" A10 program. ? Has this team gotten better as the year has progressed the same way that Richmond, St. Louis, UMass has?
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The college game continues to go downhillMongo wrote: ↑4 years ago If the new transfer rule takes effect, it will absolutely destroy CBB. If players move year to year because they have a bad few weeks with no sit out period, I will officially be DONE watching. It really should not happen, there will be very little continuity in the game, the NCAA continues to show its incompetence.
Used to be 300 transfers per year
Then got the Grad Transfer and the 5th year rule that increased transfers
Now over 1000 Transfers per year
Inconsistency and confusion regarding transfer eligibility
P5 and Big East preferential treatment
P5 and BE Teams do not visit mid majors home courts. A shame it’s like this
20 game conference schedules. Leaves fewer OOC games to schedule.
Allowing transfers without a sit out period will ruin the game
Even if a limit of one transfer per player, players will challenge the legality of that limit. Players will eventually be able to transfer more than once
The College Game gets less interesting every year.
I’ll be much less interested if this proposal goes through.
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I don't believe Fatts would be a key piece for any higher level program.
Also, The players known for next year makes next year a re-building year. We will not even make the NIT next year - a .500 record would be impressive. The question is whether Fatts will help or hurt the re-building of the program next year. If player development is less than I expect, then Fatts will help; otherwise Cox will need to reign in Fatts. Fatts wants to win by scoring more himself rather than providing better scoring opportunities for teammates. I'm neutral on Fatts staying or leaving. Leading a team in forced shots is not an endearing quality.
Also, The players known for next year makes next year a re-building year. We will not even make the NIT next year - a .500 record would be impressive. The question is whether Fatts will help or hurt the re-building of the program next year. If player development is less than I expect, then Fatts will help; otherwise Cox will need to reign in Fatts. Fatts wants to win by scoring more himself rather than providing better scoring opportunities for teammates. I'm neutral on Fatts staying or leaving. Leading a team in forced shots is not an endearing quality.
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......my bad on potentially starting that debate again, my main point is that I think Fatts is gonna have a large roll next year, with the team on his back, in a positive way it will be his team......
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Just kidding about the type of yearsection(105) wrote: ↑4 years ago......my bad on potentially starting that debate again, my main point is that I think Fatts is gonna have a large roll next year, with the team on his back, in a positive way it will be his team......
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Reloading from what?
I sure as heck would call it a rebuilding year.
We will have 5 [at minimum] new players next season.
Could be more if Sheppard doesn't play and there are more transfers.
That's basically half a new team.
I sure as heck would call it a rebuilding year.
We will have 5 [at minimum] new players next season.
Could be more if Sheppard doesn't play and there are more transfers.
That's basically half a new team.