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Our offensive efficiency improved but we lost ground on defensive efficiency which is why our Kenpom only improved a little.
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Our adjusted offense has gone from the low 100s to 74 in 2 weeks.
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It seems apparent that Fatts and Jeff are really meshing and they are taking turns running the offense seamlessly. Where before it was either Fatts does it all and Jeff sits in the corner, then Jeff gets so few chances with Fatts on the bench he forces things. The simpatico between our guards right now is great.
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URI jumped 3 spots in NET over night to 41 from 44 with its win over vcu. Vcu fell 4 spots from 33 to 37.
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Thought we’d have jumped a bit higher tbh- but I guess at the end of the day it’s a Q2 win. I don’t get the NET. Just keep winning!
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Yeah I figured maybe 6 for a jump with how convincing it was. Or at least above vcu. But finishing at least 2nd in a10 is a little more important and if we keep winning against the teams we should it will creep up. Doubt we lose much in NET with the two Dayton matchups barring a complete blowout.
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NET won’t matter if we lose on Tuesday. One game at a time!!sevegny7 wrote: ↑4 years agoYeah I figured maybe 6 for a jump with how convincing it was. Or at least above vcu. But finishing at least 2nd in a10 is a little more important and if we keep winning against the teams we should it will creep up. Doubt we lose much in NET with the two Dayton matchups barring a complete blowout.
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I don't expect too much more movement in our NET unless we either beat Dayton or get blown out by them.
The next 2 games are against teams in the 100's in NET, so we need to take care of business obviously.
Yes as always one game at a time. Can't overlook anybody.
To be honest, the 2 games I'm most concerned about the rest of the way, are the 2 road games against UMass and Fordham.
Been nothing but trouble for us historically.
At least Cox should have them focused for each game as they come.
The next 2 games are against teams in the 100's in NET, so we need to take care of business obviously.
Yes as always one game at a time. Can't overlook anybody.
To be honest, the 2 games I'm most concerned about the rest of the way, are the 2 road games against UMass and Fordham.
Been nothing but trouble for us historically.
At least Cox should have them focused for each game as they come.
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Next Up UMASS Tuesday Night at the Ryan Center. I'm sure Spookydog is preparing the Game Thread as we speak:D
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Next Up UMASS Tuesday Night at the Ryan Center. I'm sure Spookydog is preparing the Game Thread as we speak:D
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I won't pretend to understand everything about the NET, but I wonder if being one of the only games (among teams near the top end of the NET rankings) playing last night makes any difference? All movement in the rankings overnight was based solely on us and VCU, with no other teams losing to move back. Would be curious to see what happens with everybody else playing today. I don't know, maybe I am way off here.
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I have no idea, but seeing how it worked out last time, I'm going to say you nailed it again..adam914 wrote: ↑4 years ago I won't pretend to understand everything about the NET, but I wonder if being one of the only games (among teams near the top end of the NET rankings) playing last night makes any difference? All movement in the rankings overnight was based solely on us and VCU, with no other teams losing to move back. Would be curious to see what happens with everybody else playing today. I don't know, maybe I am way off here.
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Haha just keep on riding it until the wheels fall off! (Which, based on past experience, should be very very soon!)NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 years agoI have no idea, but seeing how it worked out last time, I'm going to say you nailed it again..adam914 wrote: ↑4 years ago I won't pretend to understand everything about the NET, but I wonder if being one of the only games (among teams near the top end of the NET rankings) playing last night makes any difference? All movement in the rankings overnight was based solely on us and VCU, with no other teams losing to move back. Would be curious to see what happens with everybody else playing today. I don't know, maybe I am way off here.
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PC is now a Q2 win.
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41 is solid looks like a Tournament resume for sure
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North Texas is in trouble at half against a bad Rice team. PC on the brink of upsetting Butler on the road
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We should get a bump with PC’s road game win today at Butler.
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40 NET, 50 BPI, 14 RPI. 89.1 Chance to dance. Pretty nice.
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Imagine if this was a few years ago and we had a 14 rpi and people thought we were a bubble team? The outrage would be hot!!!
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We end the regular season in the 30's in NET and 40's in BPI, and we're in the field.
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It’s not an official criteria but it doesn’t hurt to have that additional ingredient in the soup.
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I heard Kmac state that URI needs to stay around mid 40s NET to punch a ticket.
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This % to dance # seems way too high, and it's seemed that way to me for the last month or so. I'm confident in this team, but I do not think there's an 89.7% chance that we close the season only losing 2 more games (both to Dayton). I think that's what we need to do in order to secure an autobid.
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Yeah, these kids aren't robots, and our margin of error losing a gimme game in the A10 (besides to Dayton) is not the same as a high end ACC, SEC or even Big East team losing in-conference game. 89.7% is way too optimistic at this point.
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Gimme games? No such thing.
We'll be favored in all of our remaining games, except the 2 against Dayton.
Screw it, win them all.
But if we do lose one, it had better not be a Q3 or Q4 loss.
We'll be favored in all of our remaining games, except the 2 against Dayton.
Screw it, win them all.
But if we do lose one, it had better not be a Q3 or Q4 loss.
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89.7% assumes that they win out for the next 9 games and get to the A-10 Tourney finals.
I like 0% better. Much simpler to follow.
Lose the next game against UMass at home, and there will be a 0% chance of earning an at large bid minus a A-10 Tourney miracle.
I like 0% better. Much simpler to follow.
Lose the next game against UMass at home, and there will be a 0% chance of earning an at large bid minus a A-10 Tourney miracle.
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Our margin for error is the same it's been for the last 8 games.
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That's why, I don't trust any of these bracket a-holes. Always trying to whisper sweet nothings into your ears.
"just put it on cruise control, baby. You're 89.7% in"
You're 89.7% out, if you listen to them. Bring your lunch pail and hard hat tomorrow. Get an ice bath ready for after the game.
"just put it on cruise control, baby. You're 89.7% in"
You're 89.7% out, if you listen to them. Bring your lunch pail and hard hat tomorrow. Get an ice bath ready for after the game.
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This is incorrect, but I get your point. A Umass loss and a win @ Dayton and we're right back to where we are today...possibly even better. I'd rather not test that theory, but I believe bad losses are cancelled out by great wins. It's the only reason PC was being talked about after their horrendous OOC.rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago 89.7% assumes that they win out for the next 9 games and get to the A-10 Tourney finals.
I like 0% better. Much simpler to follow.
Lose the next game against UMass at home, and there will be a 0% chance of earning an at large bid minus a A-10 Tourney miracle.
Do I want the above to happen? Absolutely not, but with two opportunities against Dayton we have SOME breathing room (if we can knock them off once or twice).
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Yeah, don't test that theory.
Maybe your mathematical equation says differently, but the guys on Selection Sunday will ignore your math, guaranteed.
Win tomorrow, else forget about it.
Maybe your mathematical equation says differently, but the guys on Selection Sunday will ignore your math, guaranteed.
Win tomorrow, else forget about it.
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And that's the other reason why I can't stand this stuff.
It allows people like you the illusion that you can just absorb a bad win and still be alive ("because we'll make it up when we play Dayton"). Maybe that was true when it happened with Brown, but it's way too late in the season for that now. It took URI 8 straight games to get back on track, lose tomorrow and there won't be enough games left to do it again.
It allows people like you the illusion that you can just absorb a bad win and still be alive ("because we'll make it up when we play Dayton"). Maybe that was true when it happened with Brown, but it's way too late in the season for that now. It took URI 8 straight games to get back on track, lose tomorrow and there won't be enough games left to do it again.
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I will let Cox and team know that they should NOT purposely lose to UMass to test my theoryrhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago Yeah, don't test that theory.
Maybe your mathematical equation says differently, but the guys on Selection Sunday will ignore your math, guaranteed.
Win tomorrow, else forget about it.
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I take the 89.7% in number as "if the selection show was today" - I don't think they're predicting what will happen 9-12 games from now.
Baron's 2010 team was 18-3 at this point in the season. We all know how that ended.
Obviously we are in a COMPLETELY different position under Cox than Baron. No one thinks the work is over or that we're "in" - but we're on the right side of the bubble with everything in our control.
Back to the new mantra - MUST. WIN. the next game. Can't leave anything up to a committee.
Baron's 2010 team was 18-3 at this point in the season. We all know how that ended.
Obviously we are in a COMPLETELY different position under Cox than Baron. No one thinks the work is over or that we're "in" - but we're on the right side of the bubble with everything in our control.
Back to the new mantra - MUST. WIN. the next game. Can't leave anything up to a committee.
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Thanx muchSection104 wrote: ↑4 years ago I will let Cox and team know that they should NOT purposely lose to UMass to test my theory
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Call me crazy, but don’t you guys think these guys wanted to win every game they’ve played this season?!
I know, it’s silly, but, just a thought.
I know, it’s silly, but, just a thought.
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I know, DC, I'm just saying.
89.7% assumes that you duplicate the 8-1 conference record from the month of January, to the month of February, and finish 16-2, and we aren't talking a loss to UMass here.
It might happen. It ain't going to happen if you lose to UMass, home or away, however. And OOooohhh, how they love to play the spoilers, when WE are doing well, in particular. How they loathe us.
89.7% assumes that you duplicate the 8-1 conference record from the month of January, to the month of February, and finish 16-2, and we aren't talking a loss to UMass here.
It might happen. It ain't going to happen if you lose to UMass, home or away, however. And OOooohhh, how they love to play the spoilers, when WE are doing well, in particular. How they loathe us.
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We were 18-3 and then played none other than UMASS at home to move to 19-3 with the wheels falling off all the way to Amherst where we lost our last wheel. Our current schedule matches that.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 years ago I take the 89.7% in number as "if the selection show was today" - I don't think they're predicting what will happen 9-12 games from now.
Baron's 2010 team was 18-3 at this point in the season. We all know how that ended.
Obviously we are in a COMPLETELY different position under Cox than Baron. No one thinks the work is over or that we're "in" - but we're on the right side of the bubble with everything in our control.
Back to the new mantra - MUST. WIN. the next game. Can't leave anything up to a committee.
I think we were projected a 7 seed at that time??
Far from a done deal, but I'm beginning to think these other teams are just gonna have to force our wheels to fall off. THEY GON HAVE TO TAKE OUR WHEELS.
Its important to remember that we hate UMass and its okay to kick them when they are down
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Saying some variation of this a lot doesn't make it any more true. For instance, our first tournament year under Hurley we were on the bubble, then played ourselves off with the loss to Fordham, then played our way back onto the bubble, then clinched a tournament bid in the first four all between February 15th and March 11th before clinching the auto bid on March 12th.rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago And that's the other reason why I can't stand this stuff.
It allows people like you the illusion that you can just absorb a bad win and still be alive ("because we'll make it up when we play Dayton"). Maybe that was true when it happened with Brown, but it's way too late in the season for that now. It took URI 8 straight games to get back on track, lose tomorrow and there won't be enough games left to do it again.
There are two reasons I've been posting about bubble games on the games of interest threads. One, those teams right now are our biggest competition for a tournament berth so it's interesting to keep track of that. Two, everything is relative when you're talking about being on the bubble. This year bubble teams have a losing record. Last time I did this they were a little over .500. This idea that we have to be perfect or just shy of perfect to have a chance isn't born out in any evidence. The evidence shows there's a reason why every team that's on the bubble is there. If they were better they'd be solidly in, if they were worse they wouldn't be talked about. Every team on the bubble has flaws, so thinking we need to be perfect is a standard that doesn't exist
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So you think the chances that we dance are 0% or closer to 0 than 89%. Please cite anybody that seriously tracks the NCAA tournament that agrees with your assessmentrhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago 89.7% assumes that they win out for the next 9 games and get to the A-10 Tourney finals.
I like 0% better. Much simpler to follow.
Lose the next game against UMass at home, and there will be a 0% chance of earning an at large bid minus a A-10 Tourney miracle.
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NOT me I can tell you that. On RR02 side on this one. A dayton win immediately cancels out a umass loss. The ACC is big time down this year as opposed to last year along with no dominating teams. The bubble is easier then ever before for mid majors to crash into. The way the bubble worked the last three years has nothing to do with how it will work this year. Like think North Carolina Virginia and Syracuse have real possibilities of missing the tournament.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑4 years agoSo you think the chances that we dance are 0% or closer to 0 than 89%. Please cite anybody that seriously tracks the NCAA tournament that agrees with your assessmentrhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago 89.7% assumes that they win out for the next 9 games and get to the A-10 Tourney finals.
I like 0% better. Much simpler to follow.
Lose the next game against UMass at home, and there will be a 0% chance of earning an at large bid minus a A-10 Tourney miracle.
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The 89.7 is based on a computer model and team data to date. There's not some person making game-by-game predictions and guessing a percentage.
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Here's the assessment. Lose tomorrow night... NIT.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑4 years ago So you think the chances that we dance are 0% or closer to 0 than 89%. Please cite anybody that seriously tracks the NCAA tournament that agrees with your assessment
You want to see that 89.7% drop like a rock plummeting to Earth? Down to 0%? Lose tomorrow.
Class dismissed
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Congratulations on being aggressively wrong I guess?rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years agoHere's the assessment. Lost tomorrow night... NIT.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑4 years ago So you think the chances that we dance are 0% or closer to 0 than 89%. Please cite anybody that seriously tracks the NCAA tournament that agrees with your assessment
Class dismissed.
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Wrong about what?
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If you think we can survive a loss tomorrow, and the percentage is going to be anywhere near 89.7% after that, you're just flat out wrong.
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Jesus dude, enjoy the ride. There are like 300 other fan bases that would trade places with us in a second.
Enjoy watching a 5'8 kid dominate a big man's game, enjoy watching 2 of our all time greats wind down their careers, enjoy a team on an 8 game winning streak that is playing determined ball.
Enjoy watching a 5'8 kid dominate a big man's game, enjoy watching 2 of our all time greats wind down their careers, enjoy a team on an 8 game winning streak that is playing determined ball.
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NO, BAR. Don't cover him. He's a big boy, if he wants to dump on me, he can answer himself.