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Has net been updated? I see net as of Friday on the ncaa site.
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Doesn’t look like it updated yet. Still says through Jan 24.
They still have the dukes at 72. I would expect a free fall from them - which will probably dampen our jump a tad.
Either way the longer the year goes on the less we’ll move after individual games.
While it was a great win as a fan (read: every win), the computers will see we beat a q2/Q3 team on the road by about what we were favored. We’ll go up but I wouldn’t expect more than 3 spots.
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My CBS app appeared to be updated had current records and i saw us at 52 entering the game yesterday now at 53.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 years agoDoesn’t look like it updated yet. Still says through Jan 24.
They still have the dukes at 72. I would expect a free fall from them - which will probably dampen our jump a tad.
Either way the longer the year goes on the less we’ll move after individual games.
While it was a great win as a fan (read: every win), the computers will see we beat a q2/Q3 team on the road by about what we were favored. We’ll go up but I wouldn’t expect more than 3 spots.
Although i do see duquesne didnt move as well. So maybe it isnt.
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Ah - I usually use the NCAA one and it says games through Jan 24.FDshoes wrote: ↑4 years agoMy CBS app appeared to be updated had current records and i thought i saw us at 52 entering the game yesterday.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 years agoDoesn’t look like it updated yet. Still says through Jan 24.
They still have the dukes at 72. I would expect a free fall from them - which will probably dampen our jump a tad.
Either way the longer the year goes on the less we’ll move after individual games.
While it was a great win as a fan (read: every win), the computers will see we beat a q2/Q3 team on the road by about what we were favored. We’ll go up but I wouldn’t expect more than 3 spots.
Here’s hoping!
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It says through games if 1/24 so I don’t think it’s been updated after yesterday’s games yet.
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Hopefully, like i said my cbs app did have 1/25 on it and has typically updated after the last game each day since it started having the net listed.
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We dropped one to 53 :/ lame.
Although it still has Duq at 72 sooo maybe cbs isn't done updating.
Although it still has Duq at 72 sooo maybe cbs isn't done updating.
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How do you beat a good team on the road and drop one spot?? NET rating system is a joke.
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Metrics-wise, St Bonaventure is not a good team.NJRhodyFan wrote: ↑4 years ago How do you beat a good team on the road and drop one spot?? NET rating system is a joke.
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That may be true, but it’s still a road win in conference. You shouldn’t be penalized even one spot in the rankings. But I guess nothing is a perfect science. Just frustrating.Rhodyram wrote: ↑4 years agoMetrics-wise, St Bonaventure is not a good team.NJRhodyFan wrote: ↑4 years ago How do you beat a good team on the road and drop one spot?? NET rating system is a joke.
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But isnt that what margin of victory is suppose to take into account. No we didnt win by the "magical" 10 pts but we did cover the spread. Almost seems like the efficiency factor is to large. I am certainly questioning the NET.
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My understanding of the NET was that it’s more or less a proprietary formula kept under lock and key? As in the NCAA would be the only people to have it?
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketbal ... t-rankings
This site hasn’t been updated yet and thats what I would trust. The simple fact that Duquesne hasn’t moved should be enough to wait til this site gets updated.
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketbal ... t-rankings
This site hasn’t been updated yet and thats what I would trust. The simple fact that Duquesne hasn’t moved should be enough to wait til this site gets updated.
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It's taking way longer than usual.
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Washington lost by double digits and is still at 48 so that says it hasn’t been updated yet also.
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On positive note our Ken Pom offensive efficiency numbers jumped like 25+ spots after yesterday’s 81 pt performance. Believe it’s first time we have been in Top 100 offensively in a while.
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NET up to 49
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The NET rankings for the A-10 from the NCAA site for games through 01-25-2020:
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After the Brown and Richmond losses I didn’t even think URI could get in the top 50 in NET. Here they are at 49!!!! LETS GO RHODY
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I had to go through schedules, though i'm sure there must be a site that breaks down Quad wins and losses. Just couldn't find it.
For what it's worth:
URI Q1 1-3 Q2 3-1
VCU Q1 1-3 Q2 0-3
Rich Q1 1-4 Q2 1-1
This supports those that don't think VCU deserves to be in over URI at this point.
For what it's worth:
URI Q1 1-3 Q2 3-1
VCU Q1 1-3 Q2 0-3
Rich Q1 1-4 Q2 1-1
This supports those that don't think VCU deserves to be in over URI at this point.
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VCU is surviving on brand power and blowing out shitty teams in non con at this point
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Richmonds lone Q1 win is us??RhodyRam86 wrote: ↑4 years ago I had to go through schedules, though i'm sure there must be a site that breaks down Quad wins and losses. Just couldn't find it.
For what it's worth:
URI Q1 1-3 Q2 3-1
VCU Q1 1-3 Q2 0-3
Rich Q1 1-4 Q2 1-1
This supports those that don't think VCU deserves to be in over URI at this point.
We can’t extend that same courtesy to VCU.
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LSU going to be ranked tomorrow so we have losses to 3 teams ranked top 25 AP poll
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All before we got Walker back...
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I think we would’ve beaten WVU with Walker
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So 14-5 is where I expected this team to be right now. I obviously didn’t expect them to lose to Brown and had @VCU as a loss. That being said- how much difference in the metrics would it be had we beaten Brown and lost at VCU (results reversed)Obviously it would have been ideal to win both but...
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The metrics may be similar. But, in terms of an at-large resume, a road win vs a top 50 team is much more valuable than having one less “bad loss”.Rhodyram wrote: ↑4 years ago So 14-5 is where I expected this team to be right now. I obviously didn’t expect them to lose to Brown and had @VCU as a loss. That being said- how much difference in the metrics would it be had we beaten Brown and lost at VCU (results reversed)Obviously it would have been ideal to win both but...
Also, beating VCU was a huge piece in building the case that we are the second best team in the A-10.
IMO, the committee is very conscious about bids per conference and the A-10 deserves at least 1 at-large spot. The A-10 Commissioner is on the committee this year too which helps. (I think she has to recuse herself when voting on A-10 teams but just a presence there helps.)
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I still say the A10 is getting 3 at large bids. The conference metrics are pretty good.URI2006_Andy wrote: ↑4 years agoThe metrics may be similar. But, in terms of an at-large resume, a road win vs a top 50 team is much more valuable than having one less “bad loss”.Rhodyram wrote: ↑4 years ago So 14-5 is where I expected this team to be right now. I obviously didn’t expect them to lose to Brown and had @VCU as a loss. That being said- how much difference in the metrics would it be had we beaten Brown and lost at VCU (results reversed)Obviously it would have been ideal to win both but...
Also, beating VCU was a huge piece in building the case that we are the second best team in the A-10.
IMO, the committee is very conscious about bids per conference and the A-10 deserves at least 1 at-large spot. The A-10 Commissioner is on the committee this year too which helps. (I think she has to recuse herself when voting on A-10 teams but just a presence there helps.)
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I think the biggest factors are if any of the bubble teams beat Dayton and then how the conference tournament plays out.
My initial thought was Dayton would lose 4 or 5 conference games. But, they already won at St. Louis and at Richmond. So, chances are running out.
My initial thought was Dayton would lose 4 or 5 conference games. But, they already won at St. Louis and at Richmond. So, chances are running out.
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I will guess most likely 3 bids for A10
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We have to be the first team to beat Dayton at home thenURI2006_Andy wrote: ↑4 years ago I think the biggest factors are if any of the bubble teams beat Dayton and then how the conference tournament plays out.
My initial thought was Dayton would lose 4 or 5 conference games. But, they already won at St. Louis and at Richmond. So, chances are running out.
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theblueram wrote: ↑4 years agoI still say the A10 is getting 3 at large bids. The conference metrics are pretty good.URI2006_Andy wrote: ↑4 years agoThe metrics may be similar. But, in terms of an at-large resume, a road win vs a top 50 team is much more valuable than having one less “bad loss”.Rhodyram wrote: ↑4 years ago So 14-5 is where I expected this team to be right now. I obviously didn’t expect them to lose to Brown and had @VCU as a loss. That being said- how much difference in the metrics would it be had we beaten Brown and lost at VCU (results reversed)Obviously it would have been ideal to win both but...
Also, beating VCU was a huge piece in building the case that we are the second best team in the A-10.
IMO, the committee is very conscious about bids per conference and the A-10 deserves at least 1 at-large spot. The A-10 Commissioner is on the committee this year too which helps. (I think she has to recuse herself when voting on A-10 teams but just a presence there helps.)
So you think the A10 gets four teams in??
That’s gonna be very very tough.
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If we had beaten Brown, our NET would be about the same as VCU's.
I think the A10 gets 2 at large bids.
Beating SLU will be important since it's beginning to look like we will be battling Richmond and them for 2 spots.
The conference tourney could shake things up though if someone other than the top 4 wins it.
I think the A10 gets 2 at large bids.
Beating SLU will be important since it's beginning to look like we will be battling Richmond and them for 2 spots.
The conference tourney could shake things up though if someone other than the top 4 wins it.
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I know this guy is traditionally one of the more accurate bracketologists. He has URI as one of his last four in as of today.
http://makingthemadness.com/bracketolog ... -implodes/
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our chances of getting a bid are up to 69%, 32nd team in 8 seed according to this one site...
https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-tourn ... edictions/
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URI moved up in NET over the night by 2 spots from 49 to 47.
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All depends on where you look. 9% here - https://bracketresearch.com/projected-n ... omparison/
aka a lot of work to do.
Sure if the season ended today we’d have a good shot, but we gotta avoid land mines and steal a couple on the road.
aka a lot of work to do.
Sure if the season ended today we’d have a good shot, but we gotta avoid land mines and steal a couple on the road.
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Updating the ESPN BPI-powered projections, right now they have URI as a 9 seed and finishing second in the conference. This is still projecting 4 A10 bids, but Richmond and VCU are hanging by a thread as 12 seeds.
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As much as I'd love to see the A10 be a 4 bid, it's starting to look like 2-3 is where we'll wind up.
Unfortunately for us, in a conference with very dwindling prospects for Q1 wins, we're becoming one of the few. The basement, after what we thought was a strong OOC, is still the damn basement and they all continue to plummet.
VCU, Richmond, and us are going to be penalized playing them. Even worse, we'll be throttled if we lose to them.
VCU and Richmond are battling us for what could be only 1 spot after Dayton. We can't let VCU get a Q1 against us on Friday. We can't fall off the mountain and drop a lame one to GMU this week either.
The #2 seed and a Dayton split are CRITICAL. Have to sweep VCU.
The only path I can see to a very good feeling heading to Brooklyn is at MINIMUM 8-3 the rest of the way, with losses @ Dayton, @Davidson, and @UMass. Preferably 9-2 with losses only @ Dayton and @ Davidson.
Like others have said - Virginia and Xavier "haven't beat anybody" - well neither have we. And we have the bad loss like everyone else. Potentially a Q4 loss. We need Bama to become a Q1. We need PC to get back to a Q2. And we need to beat Dayton once, and VCU again - while hoping VCU wins out the rest of their games.
In that scenario - even dropping another Q3 to UMass and Q2 @ Davidson - 4-4 Q1, 5-2 Q2, 6-2 Q3, 8-0 Q4 would get it done. Plus that scenario probably gets VCU in as well making the A10 a 3 bid.
No matter what - GMU = MUST. WIN.
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The good news, albeit very unrealistic, is we’re the only team other than Dayton that controls their own destiny to the 1 seed. Win all our remaining games and we’re the 1. Win all and 1 loss to someone not named Dayton and we’re also the 1.
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If they lose to Umass they aren't making the tourney. I think losing three games the rest of the way will be very tricky prior to the A-10. I think the best route would be two loses with one at Dayton and maybe Davidson or win all the other games besides Dayton. This won't be easy, but I don't think loses to both Davidson and UMASS will go far in the committees eyes.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 years agoAs much as I'd love to see the A10 be a 4 bid, it's starting to look like 2-3 is where we'll wind up.
Unfortunately for us, in a conference with very dwindling prospects for Q1 wins, we're becoming one of the few. The basement, after what we thought was a strong OOC, is still the damn basement and they all continue to plummet.
VCU, Richmond, and us are going to be penalized playing them. Even worse, we'll be throttled if we lose to them.
VCU and Richmond are battling us for what could be only 1 spot after Dayton. We can't let VCU get a Q1 against us on Friday. We can't fall off the mountain and drop a lame one to GMU this week either.
The #2 seed and a Dayton split are CRITICAL. Have to sweep VCU.
The only path I can see to a very good feeling heading to Brooklyn is at MINIMUM 8-3 the rest of the way, with losses @ Dayton, @Davidson, and @UMass. Preferably 9-2 with losses only @ Dayton and @ Davidson.
Like others have said - Virginia and Xavier "haven't beat anybody" - well neither have we. And we have the bad loss like everyone else. Potentially a Q4 loss. We need Bama to become a Q1. We need PC to get back to a Q2. And we need to beat Dayton once, and VCU again - while hoping VCU wins out the rest of their games.
In that scenario - even dropping another Q3 to UMass and Q2 @ Davidson - 4-4 Q1, 5-2 Q2, 6-2 Q3, 8-0 Q4 would get it done. Plus that scenario probably gets VCU in as well making the A10 a 3 bid.
No matter what - GMU = MUST. WIN.
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Yup. Nailed it. I think this is a very good breakdown of where we're at and where we'll need to be.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 years agoAs much as I'd love to see the A10 be a 4 bid, it's starting to look like 2-3 is where we'll wind up.
Unfortunately for us, in a conference with very dwindling prospects for Q1 wins, we're becoming one of the few. The basement, after what we thought was a strong OOC, is still the damn basement and they all continue to plummet.
VCU, Richmond, and us are going to be penalized playing them. Even worse, we'll be throttled if we lose to them.
VCU and Richmond are battling us for what could be only 1 spot after Dayton. We can't let VCU get a Q1 against us on Friday. We can't fall off the mountain and drop a lame one to GMU this week either.
The #2 seed and a Dayton split are CRITICAL. Have to sweep VCU.
The only path I can see to a very good feeling heading to Brooklyn is at MINIMUM 8-3 the rest of the way, with losses @ Dayton, @Davidson, and @UMass. Preferably 9-2 with losses only @ Dayton and @ Davidson.
Like others have said - Virginia and Xavier "haven't beat anybody" - well neither have we. And we have the bad loss like everyone else. Potentially a Q4 loss. We need Bama to become a Q1. We need PC to get back to a Q2. And we need to beat Dayton once, and VCU again - while hoping VCU wins out the rest of their games.
In that scenario - even dropping another Q3 to UMass and Q2 @ Davidson - 4-4 Q1, 5-2 Q2, 6-2 Q3, 8-0 Q4 would get it done. Plus that scenario probably gets VCU in as well making the A10 a 3 bid.
No matter what - GMU = MUST. WIN.
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Blue Man wrote: ↑4 years agoAs much as I'd love to see the A10 be a 4 bid, it's starting to look like 2-3 is where we'll wind up.
Unfortunately for us, in a conference with very dwindling prospects for Q1 wins, we're becoming one of the few. The basement, after what we thought was a strong OOC, is still the damn basement and they all continue to plummet.
VCU, Richmond, and us are going to be penalized playing them. Even worse, we'll be throttled if we lose to them.
VCU and Richmond are battling us for what could be only 1 spot after Dayton. We can't let VCU get a Q1 against us on Friday. We can't fall off the mountain and drop a lame one to GMU this week either.
The #2 seed and a Dayton split are CRITICAL. Have to sweep VCU.
The only path I can see to a very good feeling heading to Brooklyn is at MINIMUM 8-3 the rest of the way, with losses @ Dayton, @Davidson, and @UMass. Preferably 9-2 with losses only @ Dayton and @ Davidson.
Like others have said - Virginia and Xavier "haven't beat anybody" - well neither have we. And we have the bad loss like everyone else. Potentially a Q4 loss. We need Bama to become a Q1. We need PC to get back to a Q2. And we need to beat Dayton once, and VCU again - while hoping VCU wins out the rest of their games.
In that scenario - even dropping another Q3 to UMass and Q2 @ Davidson - 4-4 Q1, 5-2 Q2, 6-2 Q3, 8-0 Q4 would get it done. Plus that scenario probably gets VCU in as well making the A10 a 3 bid.
No matter what - GMU = MUST. WIN.
At Umass. This team cant lose that game. I think losing both games to Dayton is more realistic
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I agree with you as far as if everything stayed the way it is (Bama Q2, VCU home Q2, PC Q3).RamStock wrote: ↑4 years agoIf they lose to Umass they aren't making the tourney. I think losing three games the rest of the way will be very tricky prior to the A-10. I think the best route would be two loses with one at Dayton and maybe Davidson or win all the other games besides Dayton. This won't be easy, but I don't think loses to both Davidson and UMASS will go far in the committees eyes.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 years agoAs much as I'd love to see the A10 be a 4 bid, it's starting to look like 2-3 is where we'll wind up.
Unfortunately for us, in a conference with very dwindling prospects for Q1 wins, we're becoming one of the few. The basement, after what we thought was a strong OOC, is still the damn basement and they all continue to plummet.
VCU, Richmond, and us are going to be penalized playing them. Even worse, we'll be throttled if we lose to them.
VCU and Richmond are battling us for what could be only 1 spot after Dayton. We can't let VCU get a Q1 against us on Friday. We can't fall off the mountain and drop a lame one to GMU this week either.
The #2 seed and a Dayton split are CRITICAL. Have to sweep VCU.
The only path I can see to a very good feeling heading to Brooklyn is at MINIMUM 8-3 the rest of the way, with losses @ Dayton, @Davidson, and @UMass. Preferably 9-2 with losses only @ Dayton and @ Davidson.
Like others have said - Virginia and Xavier "haven't beat anybody" - well neither have we. And we have the bad loss like everyone else. Potentially a Q4 loss. We need Bama to become a Q1. We need PC to get back to a Q2. And we need to beat Dayton once, and VCU again - while hoping VCU wins out the rest of their games.
In that scenario - even dropping another Q3 to UMass and Q2 @ Davidson - 4-4 Q1, 5-2 Q2, 6-2 Q3, 8-0 Q4 would get it done. Plus that scenario probably gets VCU in as well making the A10 a 3 bid.
No matter what - GMU = MUST. WIN.
For sure it we only have a 1-5 or 2-4 Q1 record and another bad loss, we are definitely outside looking in.
If everything stays the same we can probably only afford the loss @ Dayton and a Q2 loss at home vs St Louis or @ Davidson). That UMass loss scenario only works if Bama becomes Q1 and if VCU can play up to a Q1 win (obviously with us needing to beat them at home).
Agreed that prior to the Brown game/A-10 start we'd have all said 14-4 definitely gets us in - but the situation definitely changed. Unfortunately we're looking at 15-3 to feel good.
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I agree. UMass is the boogeyman under my bed tho.Roz wrote: ↑4 years agoAt Umass. This team cant lose that game. I think losing both games to Dayton is more realisticBlue Man wrote: ↑4 years agoAs much as I'd love to see the A10 be a 4 bid, it's starting to look like 2-3 is where we'll wind up.
Unfortunately for us, in a conference with very dwindling prospects for Q1 wins, we're becoming one of the few. The basement, after what we thought was a strong OOC, is still the damn basement and they all continue to plummet.
VCU, Richmond, and us are going to be penalized playing them. Even worse, we'll be throttled if we lose to them.
VCU and Richmond are battling us for what could be only 1 spot after Dayton. We can't let VCU get a Q1 against us on Friday. We can't fall off the mountain and drop a lame one to GMU this week either.
The #2 seed and a Dayton split are CRITICAL. Have to sweep VCU.
The only path I can see to a very good feeling heading to Brooklyn is at MINIMUM 8-3 the rest of the way, with losses @ Dayton, @Davidson, and @UMass. Preferably 9-2 with losses only @ Dayton and @ Davidson.
Like others have said - Virginia and Xavier "haven't beat anybody" - well neither have we. And we have the bad loss like everyone else. Potentially a Q4 loss. We need Bama to become a Q1. We need PC to get back to a Q2. And we need to beat Dayton once, and VCU again - while hoping VCU wins out the rest of their games.
In that scenario - even dropping another Q3 to UMass and Q2 @ Davidson - 4-4 Q1, 5-2 Q2, 6-2 Q3, 8-0 Q4 would get it done. Plus that scenario probably gets VCU in as well making the A10 a 3 bid.
No matter what - GMU = MUST. WIN.
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- Sly Williams
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You guys forget, Dayton will at some point slip up and lose to a team not named URI at some point. I doubt they run the gauntlet.
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- Sly Williams
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I hope they slip up and lose to a team named URI instead.
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- Frank Keaney
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We are in the First Four Out on CBS bracket and we got 6 votes in the AP Poll
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- Steve Chubin
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6 votes in the AP poll