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JH definitely has an aversion to dunking....he just doesn't get off the floor like a guy that size should.
That's a problem playing inside, especially since he doesn't have much in the way of post moves.
That's a problem playing inside, especially since he doesn't have much in the way of post moves.
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He shot 1-7 FG and 1-3 FTs for 3 points against a very weak D1 team. What part of that wasn’t horrible?bkoeppen wrote: ↑4 years agoI didn't think he had an awful game. Would have been nice to see him finish on a couple close ones, but starting to see incremental progress with JH, including the ability to stay on the floor.rhodylaw wrote: ↑4 years ago I still get the feeling everything is going to click at some point for JH, my guy tells me early February. I am almost looking at this as his freshmen year. When you watch him he clearly has basketball skills, he does work hard on D and I think is fairly effective before he picks some fouls and plays more tentative. Once Walker is in the mix for bigs, the staff should just tell him to go out there and play aggressive, don’t worry about fouls so much because it’s ok if we only get 20 mins from you.
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We're not getting the Karl Malone of the A10. The kid is giving his best. He needs this year to continue his development.
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This guy is just going to take a while.
The fact that he has been relatively serviceable is better than what he was last year.
I'm still holding out hope.
The fact that he has been relatively serviceable is better than what he was last year.
I'm still holding out hope.
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I remember looking at box scores from JH’s high school games and thinking this guy fouls out a lot. This has been a constant problem for him at both levels.
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Still waiting for him to hit a 3 and dunk. He looks good from the free throw line, FWIW.
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And what was Cyril's line yesterday? We didnt get much from our bigs yesterdayRhody83 wrote: ↑4 years agoHe shot 1-7 FG and 1-3 FTs for 3 points against a very weak D1 team. What part of that wasn’t horrible?bkoeppen wrote: ↑4 years agoI didn't think he had an awful game. Would have been nice to see him finish on a couple close ones, but starting to see incremental progress with JH, including the ability to stay on the floor.rhodylaw wrote: ↑4 years ago I still get the feeling everything is going to click at some point for JH, my guy tells me early February. I am almost looking at this as his freshmen year. When you watch him he clearly has basketball skills, he does work hard on D and I think is fairly effective before he picks some fouls and plays more tentative. Once Walker is in the mix for bigs, the staff should just tell him to go out there and play aggressive, don’t worry about fouls so much because it’s ok if we only get 20 mins from you.
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And what was Cyril's line yesterday? We didnt get much from our bigs yesterday
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I hope I'm wrong, but I think Cyril has an injury. He doesn't seem to have his usual intensity and his minutes have been lower the last few games.
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I hope I'm wrong, but I think Cyril has an injury. He doesn't seem to have his usual intensity and his minutes have been lower the last few games.
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If Cyril does have an issue, he will have a lot of time to get better after the PC game.
However we need him big time in the next 2 games.
However we need him big time in the next 2 games.
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I hope I'm wrong, but I think Cyril has an injury. He doesn't seem to have his usual intensity and his minutes have been lower the last few games.
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The guys on the post-game show last night were wondering if he was sick.
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Parts that were not horrible for Harris:Rhody83 wrote: ↑4 years agoHe shot 1-7 FG and 1-3 FTs for 3 points against a very weak D1 team. What part of that wasn’t horrible?bkoeppen wrote: ↑4 years agoI didn't think he had an awful game. Would have been nice to see him finish on a couple close ones, but starting to see incremental progress with JH, including the ability to stay on the floor.rhodylaw wrote: ↑4 years ago I still get the feeling everything is going to click at some point for JH, my guy tells me early February. I am almost looking at this as his freshmen year. When you watch him he clearly has basketball skills, he does work hard on D and I think is fairly effective before he picks some fouls and plays more tentative. Once Walker is in the mix for bigs, the staff should just tell him to go out there and play aggressive, don’t worry about fouls so much because it’s ok if we only get 20 mins from you.
- Season high 7 rebounds exceeding his previous high of 5. His best career was 10 vs Bryant last season and 7 vs VCU last season. So 7 rebounds is a solid, encouraging number for Harris
- Harris played a season high 26 minutes and finished with 4 fouls - so good he is extending his playing time - a frequent complaint here
- Harris had a nice block. He had 2 blocks vs LSU. Had zero blocks the first 5 games so maybe his shot blocking confidence is rising
- He looks to me to being more active on defense and playing better defense
- His points came from an offensive rebound. Even though he moves actively on offense and gets open at times, the guards do not pass to him inside. Possibly an opportunity that Cox could exploit?
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Certain guys on this team have to show up in the box score in order to have impacted the game. There are others that don’t necessarily and can contribute other ways. I’d put Harris in the latter category right now. His floor game seems to be rounding into form, and I’ll take that as a positive. Hopefully the stats will follow.
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The fact we’re talking about / wanting a Top 80 recruit to just dunk a ball in his sophomore year just shows how low of expectations are at this point for Harris.
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I still think he has potential to be good, not great, but he wont put it together until his final 2 years. I think his defensive possessions are solid, obviously a little too aggressive and needs to work on coordination. He has potential to be a very good shooter for his size just needs a few outside shots to fall at some point for confidence. Just taking longer to develop in my opinion and will be a 6-7pt guy all year. I think he will be in the 10pts/6reb avg range next year and we will need that at a min without Langevine. Unfortunately his ranking was a little off but he still has way better skills than the majority of our inside recruits.
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......I often wonder what Jermaine thinks?
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I’m not ready yet to say his ranking was off. I continue to see improvement in Harris. Still believe he can be a 4 year starter at URI and will continue to improve. It’s only November of his Soph yearRhody Sody wrote: ↑4 years ago I still think he has potential to be good, not great, but he wont put it together until his final 2 years. I think his defensive possessions are solid, obviously a little too aggressive and needs to work on coordination. He has potential to be a very good shooter for his size just needs a few outside shots to fall at some point for confidence. Just taking longer to develop in my opinion and will be a 6-7pt guy all year. I think he will be in the 10pts/6reb avg range next year and we will need that at a min without Langevine. Unfortunately his ranking was a little off but he still has way better skills than the majority of our inside recruits.
Looking at Top 100 Recruits keeping it local to RI for the past 3 years:
2019 Greg Gantt PC #68
2018 David Duke PC #49
2018 AJ Reeves PC #55
2018 Jermaine Harris #90
2017 Makai Ashton-Langford #38
Looking at this group, I’d not say Harris was Incorrectly ranked #90 at his time
A lot of basketball still to be played this year
Next Friday we have 4 of these guys going up against one another. Let’s see how Harris does compared to Duke, Reeves and Gantt.
I would not want Harris out of the starting line up or to leave URI. I’m still optimistic.
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Rhody Sody wrote: ↑4 years ago I still think he has potential to be good, not great, but he wont put it together until his final 2 years. I think his defensive possessions are solid, obviously a little too aggressive and needs to work on coordination. He has potential to be a very good shooter for his size just needs a few outside shots to fall at some point for confidence. Just taking longer to develop in my opinion and will be a 6-7pt guy all year. I think he will be in the 10pts/6reb avg range next year and we will need that at a min without Langevine. Unfortunately his ranking was a little off but he still has way better skills than the majority of our inside recruits.
How can you honestly say he has potential to be a good shooter when he’s 0- his career on three point attempts?
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Because he led the team on FT Shooting as a Freshman and he was also an excellent FT Shooter all through High SchoolRhody15 wrote: ↑4 years agoRhody Sody wrote: ↑4 years ago I still think he has potential to be good, not great, but he wont put it together until his final 2 years. I think his defensive possessions are solid, obviously a little too aggressive and needs to work on coordination. He has potential to be a very good shooter for his size just needs a few outside shots to fall at some point for confidence. Just taking longer to develop in my opinion and will be a 6-7pt guy all year. I think he will be in the 10pts/6reb avg range next year and we will need that at a min without Langevine. Unfortunately his ranking was a little off but he still has way better skills than the majority of our inside recruits.
How can you honestly say he has potential to be a good shooter when he’s 0- his career on three point attempts?
In addition, 2 weeks ago David Cox said he wanted Jermaine shooting 3 point shots and more of them. So his own Coach believes in his shooting ability for 3 pointers.
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ramster wrote: ↑4 years agoBecause he led the team on FT Shooting as a Freshman and he was also an excellent FT Shooter all through High SchoolRhody15 wrote: ↑4 years agoRhody Sody wrote: ↑4 years ago I still think he has potential to be good, not great, but he wont put it together until his final 2 years. I think his defensive possessions are solid, obviously a little too aggressive and needs to work on coordination. He has potential to be a very good shooter for his size just needs a few outside shots to fall at some point for confidence. Just taking longer to develop in my opinion and will be a 6-7pt guy all year. I think he will be in the 10pts/6reb avg range next year and we will need that at a min without Langevine. Unfortunately his ranking was a little off but he still has way better skills than the majority of our inside recruits.
How can you honestly say he has potential to be a good shooter when he’s 0- his career on three point attempts?
In addition, 2 weeks ago David Cox said he wanted Jermaine shooting 3 point shots and more of them. So his own Coach believes in his shooting ability for 3 pointers.
Bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for him.
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because he's playing more minutes, not making as many stupid fouls and his defending is getting better. He's not where we all would want him to be, but man the negativity on this poor kid is disgusting.Rhody83 wrote: ↑4 years agoHe shot 1-7 FG and 1-3 FTs for 3 points against a very weak D1 team. What part of that wasn’t horrible?bkoeppen wrote: ↑4 years agoI didn't think he had an awful game. Would have been nice to see him finish on a couple close ones, but starting to see incremental progress with JH, including the ability to stay on the floor.rhodylaw wrote: ↑4 years ago I still get the feeling everything is going to click at some point for JH, my guy tells me early February. I am almost looking at this as his freshmen year. When you watch him he clearly has basketball skills, he does work hard on D and I think is fairly effective before he picks some fouls and plays more tentative. Once Walker is in the mix for bigs, the staff should just tell him to go out there and play aggressive, don’t worry about fouls so much because it’s ok if we only get 20 mins from you.
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I think we’ve been fair
We are all pulling for him
We are tough on him cas of his rating and we hold him to a high standard
He seems to me like a good kid and I can’t wait until he puts it all together - but pls let it be this year Santa
We are all pulling for him
We are tough on him cas of his rating and we hold him to a high standard
He seems to me like a good kid and I can’t wait until he puts it all together - but pls let it be this year Santa
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But he did not create his rating - why should he be held to a high standard? It’s only November of his Sophomore year. Where did the posters go who were calling for Tate to start for Harris? I’d hate for any big men considering URI to read this thread.ElmCityRhody wrote: ↑4 years ago I think we’ve been fair
We are all pulling for him
We are tough on him cas of his rating and we hold him to a high standard
He seems to me like a good kid and I can’t wait until he puts it all together - but pls let it be this year Santa
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.....I am still here......if Walker delivers the 9-5, as one suggested, then what?
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Obviously all of us want the kids to excel; especially the highly rated ones, even more again for the bigs. BUT once they're here, all we should ask for them is to work hard, and be a good student and teammate. By all appearances Harris is all of those. Those knocking him repeatedly should give it a break. I happen to think he can be a good shooter too; it just hasn't happened in the games yet. Only way to find it is to keep shooting. If he sticks around I think he will be a good solid player for us.
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If Walker plays well in the three OOC games once he gets back and Harris continues to struggle, Walker will be in the starting lineup to start the A10 season. Cox is very loyal but he feels the pressure to deliver this year with the core of Jeff, Cyril & Fatts and he carries with him the bad feelings about last year. Harris would become the 6th man.section(105) wrote: ↑4 years ago .....I am still here......if Walker delivers the 9-5, as one suggested, then what?
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Harris is a bag of trash. Period. 1 TO. 2 missed defensive assignments. Missed layup. Missed shot.
Gtfo. He’s a -10 by himself 3 mins into the game.
Gtfo. He’s a -10 by himself 3 mins into the game.
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With big expectations comes big criticism.
I’ll try and find a more flowery way to say it.
“Gee, this top 100 player has a really great demeanor when he’s not boxing out for rebounds, not making layups, missing defensive assignments, and generally looking lost every time he steps on the floor. Very excited for the future! Nowhere to go but up!”
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Cool, tell him to his face next game.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 years agoWith big expectations comes big criticism.
I’ll try and find a more flowery way to say it.
“Gee, this top 100 player has a really great demeanor when he’s not boxing out for rebounds, not making layups, missing defensive assignments, and generally looking lost every time he steps on the floor. Very excited for the future! Nowhere to go but up!”
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I will. Then I’ll hide from him directly under the rim and he won’t be able to find me.DC_Rams wrote: ↑4 years agoCool, tell him to his face next game.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 years agoWith big expectations comes big criticism.
I’ll try and find a more flowery way to say it.
“Gee, this top 100 player has a really great demeanor when he’s not boxing out for rebounds, not making layups, missing defensive assignments, and generally looking lost every time he steps on the floor. Very excited for the future! Nowhere to go but up!”
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DC, you called someone a female because they didn’t agree with your opinion.
You’re the last person to be judging about what is said on this board.
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JH rating affected both the teams recruiting strategy as well as their ability to interest other big men from coming to URI. So, it isn't just his performance on the court. All we can do is hope he steps up his game and meets expectations. Our options in replacing JH are not great.ElmCityRhody wrote: ↑4 years ago ...
We are tough on him cas of his rating and we hold him to a high standard
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To a fickle ass fan. And I’d say much worse to his face, at the time.
We are talking about kids that are REPRESENTING OUR UNIVERSITY.
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Cute, but cut it out.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 years agoI will. Then I’ll hide from him directly under the rim and he won’t be able to find me.DC_Rams wrote: ↑4 years agoCool, tell him to his face next game.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 years ago
With big expectations comes big criticism.
I’ll try and find a more flowery way to say it.
“Gee, this top 100 player has a really great demeanor when he’s not boxing out for rebounds, not making layups, missing defensive assignments, and generally looking lost every time he steps on the floor. Very excited for the future! Nowhere to go but up!”
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Take it easy blueman.
More importantly FTF.
More importantly FTF.
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A college scholarship does not mean he is a professional. These are still kids. You can criticize without making it personal. Those of you who attacked the kid personally, if you reread your posts later after the emotion of the game has died down and you still feel the same way, I feel sorry for you.
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Not sure how I attacked him personally, considering my problems with his play are clearly all basketball related - as are my criticisms.JimSidd wrote: ↑4 years ago A college scholarship does not mean he is a professional. These are still kids. You can criticize without making it personal. Those of you who attacked the kid personally, if you reread your posts later after the emotion of the game has died down and you still feel the same way, I feel sorry for you.
That said, not sure anyone thinks exactly what they think in the middle of a high intensity game after having time to think about it later.
That would be like stopping me mid-scrum in rugby to ask me my feelings on my grandma. Not sure I’d give the right response there either.
But welcome to the internet? More specifically a message board?
So for clarity - no I do not think Jermaine is actually a bag of trash. He’s a good young man who I would love to see live up to his potential and ranking.
He is however, playing like a bag of trash.
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If Cox can sit Dowtin down the stretch of WV game, he can take Harris out of the starting lineup once Walker is up to speed.
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blueman, blueman, blueman, it doesn't matter what your state of mind is when you post something, you said it and all you can do is justify saying it. It's a theme on this board, people can't just be like "my bad, that was an asshole thing to say about a kid." Great look calling a kid a "bag of trash," that's what you say about someone who is a bad person, a person that plays dirty or someone that screws you over, not a kid just trying to sports entertain you and don't waist your time re-explaining how you were speaking of his level of play, you can't fall back on your poor impulse control issues forever, you are responsible for calling a teenager a "bag of trash" because he doesn't entertain you well enough. I am scolding you, yes, who am I to scold you? your brother, I would react with as much vigor in your defense if someone called you a "bag of trash." You should seek to understand why making such a comment is an asshole thing to do, then you should apologize without any caveats attached. My final suggetion for you, grasshopper, is you should seek to understand that when JH doesn't live up to your expectations, that is your issue not his.
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I am hopeful Walker is just a better more polished player than JH
If that proves to be then Walker should play more
You may see JH still start but Walker play more minutes
If that proves to be then Walker should play more
You may see JH still start but Walker play more minutes
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BRA-FUCKING-VO!Running Ram wrote: ↑4 years ago blueman, blueman, blueman, it doesn't matter what your state of mind is when you post something, you said it and all you can do is justify saying it. It's a theme on this board, people can't just be like "my bad, that was an asshole thing to say about a kid." Great look calling a kid a "bag of trash," that's what you say about someone who is a bad person, a person that plays dirty or someone that screws you over, not a kid just trying to sports entertain you and don't waist your time re-explaining how you were speaking of his level of play, you can't fall back on your poor impulse control issues forever, you are responsible for calling a teenager a "bag of trash" because he doesn't entertain you well enough. I am scolding you, yes, who am I to scold you? your brother, I would react with as much vigor in your defense if someone called you a "bag of trash." You should seek to understand why making such a comment is an asshole thing to do, then you should apologize without any caveats attached. My final suggetion for you, grasshopper, is you should seek to understand that when JH doesn't live up to your expectations, that is your issue not his.
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didn't we have a similar string going for Fatts last year? how did that work out?
Kid is one month into his second year and today he played against one of the better front courts in the country. lets give it a rest.
Kid is one month into his second year and today he played against one of the better front courts in the country. lets give it a rest.
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I wish Harris had one or two strengths. If his offense struggled but he was good on defense and/or rebounding that would help. I can’t find a strength in his game at this point.
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Apologies. I will make sure I only say nice things from now on. I will start now.Running Ram wrote: ↑4 years ago blueman, blueman, blueman, it doesn't matter what your state of mind is when you post something, you said it and all you can do is justify saying it. It's a theme on this board, people can't just be like "my bad, that was an asshole thing to say about a kid." Great look calling a kid a "bag of trash," that's what you say about someone who is a bad person, a person that plays dirty or someone that screws you over, not a kid just trying to sports entertain you and don't waist your time re-explaining how you were speaking of his level of play, you can't fall back on your poor impulse control issues forever, you are responsible for calling a teenager a "bag of trash" because he doesn't entertain you well enough. I am scolding you, yes, who am I to scold you? your brother, I would react with as much vigor in your defense if someone called you a "bag of trash." You should seek to understand why making such a comment is an asshole thing to do, then you should apologize without any caveats attached. My final suggetion for you, grasshopper, is you should seek to understand that when JH doesn't live up to your expectations, that is your issue not his.
Jermaine looked so good today! Everyone who thinks he isn’t living up to expectations is an IDIOT!
Of course he’s going to get it going you MORONS- he’s only 41 games started into his college career, it’s still super early!
I think there’s a ton of good in how he gets lost on defense all the time - he’s just rope-a-doping the offense into a false sense of security that’s going to pay off when they keep going through him!
I’ve seen the light! Hallelujah!
If you say you’re a Rhody fan, I know you are my brother. For you have suffered as I have suffered.
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