Asst. Coach Posting?

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 5 years ago

Iggy1979 wrote: ↑5 years ago July 1 was beginning of FY. They just posted Ty's job.

What's the state requirement on how long that needs to be posted before they can announce the hire?

Taylor Swift · Unread post by **Taylor Swift** » 5 years ago

adam914 wrote: ↑5 years ago
Iggy1979 wrote: ↑5 years ago July 1 was beginning of FY. They just posted Ty's job.
What's the state requirement on how long that needs to be posted before they can announce the hire?

I don't think there is a requirement on how long it needs to be. Some vacancies are "until filled", some on the URI job board have posting dates that are about two weeks, some are longer. The closing date for the Assistant spot is 7/15.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 5 years ago

Ah ok, I thought maybe there was a minimum amount of time it had to be up before they could close it.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

So, if the search is for Ty's job, the staff is Sutton, Carroll and whomever gets Ty's job.....yuck.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

How can you tell it’s for Ty’s job?

KevanBoyles · Unread post by **KevanBoyles** » 5 years ago

If they just posted Ty’s job, whose job did they post earlier?

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago How can you tell it’s for Ty’s job?

That's what Iggy said.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 5 years ago

Because that's what it says in the posting:
Requisition ABC1234: Ty's Job

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 5 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑5 years ago
Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago How can you tell it’s for Ty’s job?
That's what Iggy said.

I believe what Iggy says.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

It does look like Ty’s position based on it requiring only 1 year experience as an assistant coach, DBO or DPD.
It also list recruiting as the first responsibility.
Interesting that the contract goes until April 30, 2020 with anticipated renewal. Maybe they are learning to avoid contracts that go until June 30th.

https://jobs.uri.edu/postings/6074

RhodyMadness072 · Unread post by **RhodyMadness072** » 5 years ago

2. Minimum of one year’s experience as an assistant coach, Director of Operations and/or Director of Player Development in Men’s basketball at the Division I collegiate level.

The #2 requirement makes it look like TJ is getting promoted. Thats basically his qualifications the past two years.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 5 years ago

And it's the only qualification I couldn't meet - have the rest of it nailed. That just seemed like a big one. Otherwise, I'd be over there....

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 5 years ago

Is there a full coaching staff yet?

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑5 years ago Is there a full coaching staff yet?

Didn’t somebody give them until Monday?

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑5 years ago Is there a full coaching staff yet?

You didn't get an interview?

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 5 years ago

This is getting ridiculous. Seriously.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

Prediction.....

Sutton, Carroll, and TJ.

Unless of course, Carroll is finally out....but no one seems to know.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 5 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑5 years ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑5 years ago Is there a full coaching staff yet?
You didn't get an interview?

No, didn't apply....the experience requirements were just not realistic.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 5 years ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑5 years ago Prediction.....

Sutton, Carroll, and TJ.

Unless of course, Carroll is finally out....but no one seems to know.

Thoughts? You would be happy with that?

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 5 years ago

No. I’d be thrilled for TJ but not sure only replacing Ty from last year’s staff is enough for me. I wanted to see turnover on the staff from about the midpoint of last season. I’d be disappointed not to get more than this.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

Sutton and TJ yes.

Carroll? What exactly does he add to the program?

If Thorr's hands are tied, then he [Carroll] is here another year or so.

The secrecy around this is ridiculous.

Again, the team's performance last season picked up right about the time Carroll left.

Coincidence, or not?

If Carroll was a problem, and he's back, then they all have a problem. And that would suck.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 5 years ago

TruePoint wrote: ↑5 years ago No. I’d be thrilled for TJ but not sure only replacing Ty from last year’s staff is enough for me. I wanted to see turnover on the staff from about the midpoint of last season. I’d be disappointed not to get more than this.

Yeah, this staff situation is not giving me a feeling that the team is in place for next year. That's concerning for sure.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

If Carroll's lawyers are saying that he cannot be fired while on medical leave, then their hands could be tied a long time.

URI doesn't want to pay out big bucks if they were to lose in court. Not the first time.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 5 years ago

I really don’t know if it’s fair to say that Carroll was the problem. I’ve seen people say that, and that TJ moving into an acting coach role turned the season around. Maybe it contributed, but I have a really hard time believing that kind of change in one assistant coaching position would make the kind of night and day difference we saw. I’m more willing to assume that the timing there was coincidental and some other stuff closer to the actual court played a bigger role. I’m also very leery of kicking Carroll while he’s down - I don’t know anything about the inner workings of the coaching staff so I cannot say who was serving Cox best and who wasn’t. But I do feel that, overall, Cox was not getting what he needed from his assistants and he would benefit from some turnover. I’d leave it to him to figure that out, but Carroll seems like an obvious candidate to be swapped out all other things being equal. I also feel for him and his family and would fully support/encourage the university to move him into a non-coaching role until he’s out of the woods with respect to his health.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

Sounds simple enough TP.....so what's taking so long?

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 5 years ago

That I’m not the AD, I guess? Lol

I have no idea what is taking so long.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

If they could have done what you were saying, I would have thought they would have done it by now.

What the problem is, is anyone's guess.

Cameron_Dollar · Unread post by **Cameron_Dollar** » 5 years ago

If Carroll is cleared by his physicians, Coach Cox is welcoming him back with open arms. If he is not then he will not have a new contract extended to him and someone similar to him will be named. His presence is not essential right now. Everything else is in place and will be announced soon. I think the vast majority will be pleased with the outcome.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 5 years ago

Cameron_Dollar wrote: ↑5 years ago If Carroll is cleared by his physicians, Coach Cox is welcoming him back with open arms. If he is not then he will not have a new contract extended to him and someone similar to him will be named. His presence is not essential right now. Everything else is in place and will be announced soon. I think the vast majority will be pleased with the outcome.

-- Is TJ getting promoted or staying where he was?
-- If Carroll doesn't come back wouldn't the hiring pool be pretty thin?

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

Well if CD is correct when he says most will be pleased, to me that means TJ is getting the assistant job.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

Maybe Al is getting the other job.

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 5 years ago

TJ is likely moving up.
I don’t see Carroll returning.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 5 years ago

TJ may be green, but I haven't seen many more players give the blood and guts on the court like he did. Give him a chance, you know he is going to work his ass off.

CTRamfan · Unread post by **CTRamfan** » 5 years ago

Al is not a recruiter.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

From what little I've heard, TJ's done a GREAT job as acting assistant coach.

You gotta start somewhere...why not here and now?

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 5 years ago

theblueram wrote: ↑5 years ago TJ may be green, but I haven't seen many more players give the blood and guts on the court like he did. Give him a chance, you know he is going to work his ass off.

He gives his KEANEY BLUE BLOOD AND GUTS on the court!

McRam · Unread post by **McRam** » 5 years ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑5 years ago If Carroll's lawyers are saying that he cannot be fired while on medical leave, then their hands could be tied a long time.

URI doesn't want to pay out big bucks if they were to lose in court. Not the first time.

If that is the situation, URI and the state need to fire its "lawyers" Hard to believe this scenario does not happen a lot in the business world and it is resolved quickly.

Bos8 · Unread post by **Bos8** » 5 years ago

Is Carroll back full time? He has been at practice and with recruits on campus.

Unread post by **SGreenwell** » 5 years ago

McRam wrote: ↑5 years ago
rambone 78 wrote: ↑5 years ago If Carroll's lawyers are saying that he cannot be fired while on medical leave, then their hands could be tied a long time.

URI doesn't want to pay out big bucks if they were to lose in court. Not the first time.
If that is the situation, URI and the state need to fire its "lawyers" Hard to believe this scenario does not happen a lot in the business world and it is resolved quickly.

It is usually "resolved" by the business cutting a check, which is usually amenable to the party leaving the job. If you're a college basketball assistant, I could see where just keeping your job is the more valued outcome. (I have no clue if that's the case here, just offering an explanation for why it probably isn't as simple as paying out some cash.)

RhodyMadness072 · Unread post by **RhodyMadness072** » 5 years ago

Carroll is back with the team for workouts and recruits. A friend of mine whose son is at camp this week also told me he was an active participant in camp yesterday.

raminwarwick · Unread post by **raminwarwick** » 5 years ago

Could it be that Cox wants to try to get by this year with Carroll and replace him with someone he wants. That person may be a current asst. coach at a smaller school that really would have a hard time leaving at this late a date. At the end of this year, Cox could replace Carroll and hire the person he wants. This may solve the Medical/Lawyer problem many have talked about. If Carroll can't make it the whole season maybe Cox could bring in someone (AL?) at that time to do rest of this season.
This would make the hiring of the DOB important so maybe someone with AAU/Prep experience that would be thinking of getting in at the bottom of NCAA coaching instead of someone right out of college.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 5 years ago

Seems the need to speculate about Carroll is over. He's back.

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 5 years ago

Not so fast people, hold your horses.

giovanni · Unread post by **giovanni** » 5 years ago

For the sake of argument, is it possible John Carroll is not that bad of an assistant? I know we have quite a few recruiting gurus based on, I'm not sure what, how many stars, what teams recruit them or they have seen them and its their opinion (lol), mostly from our experts here that have only played basketball on xbox or coached cyo. I may be crazy but I trust David Cox with his knowledge, experience and judgement. Recruiting is an inexact science but I'll take his thoughts and beliefs more than anyone here, and that is also the case with his choices of his assistant coaches.

Also, fwiw, I am very happy to see John Carroll is healthy enough to resume coaching, regardless of the fact if he is a good assistant or not.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

I've said this before, to me, Sutton and Carroll are the same person.

giovanni · Unread post by **giovanni** » 5 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑5 years ago I've said this before, to me, Sutton and Carroll are the same person.

You may be right. But is that a necessarily[media], a terrible thing? 1 year is a very small sample for anyone. I just do not get the attacks on these guys for the teams performance last year. Yes, we may have underachieved for the season, in the fans opinion, but is that
un usually the case after losing 4 seniors and having a staff overhaul?. [/media]

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

giovanni wrote: ↑5 years ago
Billyboy78 wrote: ↑5 years ago I've said this before, to me, Sutton and Carroll are the same person.
You may be right. But is that a necessarily[media], a terrible thing? 1 year is a very small sample for anyone. I just do not get the attacks on these guys for the teams performance last year. Yes, we may have underachieved for the season, in the fans opinion, but is that
un usually the case after losing 4 seniors and having a staff overhaul?. [/media]

I'd like two youngish coaches(50 or younger) out on the recruiting trail. I think that would take some pressure off of Cox to recruit so he can concentrate on other duties.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 5 years ago

Cox hired Carroll and Sutton because he gave more weight to player development and scouting than recruiting. why would he want to dump Carroll after 1 year?

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 5 years ago

The job posting closes on the 15th. No one will be officially hired until then.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

So, the posting is definitely for Ty's job.