General Recruiting Discussion/Comments 2022 and before

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

Another loss for St Joes

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago Another loss for St Joes

No surprise at all. It was known when his dad did not get the St Joseph’s job that Jameer Jr would not be going to St Joe.

rhodylaw · Unread post by **rhodylaw** » 5 years ago

That would have been a potential disaster for St Joe’s - it is tough to coach your kid, even tougher if you have zero head coaching experience.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

rhodylaw wrote: ↑5 years ago That would have been a potential disaster for St Joe’s - it is tough to coach your kid, even tougher if you have zero head coaching experience.

My point was that it was well known that Jameer Nelson Jr not going to St Joseph’s was it was a lock when Sr did not get the job that there was no way Jr was going there. So should be no surprise that he didn’t pick St Joe.

Will be interesting when GW plays at St Joe. I hope Jameer Jr touches his Dads former school. Don’t like the new President or the new AD.

As for now HC experience, it’s interesting how many Head Coaches are getting their jobs worth no experience directly related to College, and at higher level programs too.....
Patrick Ewing Big East
Chris Mullins Big East
Penny Hardaway AAC
Jerry Stackhouse AAC

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

Former players don't often succeed as head coaches, GM's, or owners.

For evidence of that, just look at MJ, Bird, or Magic.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 5 years ago

Almost every head coach was a former player at some point. Maybe you mean to say many elite players have failed at coaching.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

bigappleram wrote: ↑5 years ago Almost every head coach was a former player at some point. Maybe you mean to say many elite players have failed at coaching.

Yes, agreed.

Ramulous · Unread post by **Ramulous** » 5 years ago

As a former elite player I would fail as a head coach....

.....does CYO count ?

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑5 years ago Former players don't often succeed as head coaches, GM's, or owners.

For evidence of that, just look at MJ, Bird, or Magic.

And former players sometimes do succeed

Hindsight is always 20-20

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 5 years ago

Jerry West did ok.

RAMFAN · Unread post by **RAMFAN** » 5 years ago

Bird? He's the only person in NBA History to win MVP, Coach of the year and Executive of the year. When he was made coach he said he was only doing it for 3 years. In the 3 years, he had a .687 winning percentage. Made the conference finals the first 2 years and then lost to the Lakers in the finals in his last year. He then stepped down as promised. He later went to the front office and won Executive of the year. He stepped down after having health issues.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 5 years ago

Yes Bird was head and shoulders above Magic and MJ in an executive role throw Isiah Thomas in as someone who failed too

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 5 years ago

reef wrote: ↑5 years ago Yes Bird was head and shoulders above Magic and MJ in an executive role throw Isiah Thomas in as someone who failed too

Isiah also looked taller in a suit than he did in a basketball uniform....

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

Staff is onto recruiting the ‘20 class. Don’t expect another add to the roster for the Fall. Scholarship available for a mid year transfer.

JimSidd · Unread post by **JimSidd** » 5 years ago

I’m ok with that.

phipsiGD'11 · Unread post by **phipsiGD'11** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago Staff is onto recruiting the ‘20 class. Don’t expect another add to the roster for the Fall. Scholarship available for a mid year transfer.

Maybe it is just because I don't know what I'm talking about, but I feel like this is a mature move from our staff. They're not just settling for a question mark player to take the last spot on the bench. I know people have questioned Cox ability to recruit without DH running the program, but if Walker is able to contribute it gives more hope that Coach Cox's patient style to recruiting is working. We've had some great transfers in recent history, so if they're not feeling that they can get their player right now let's wait and see who's going to be available mid year.

But like I said, I'm certainly no basketball whiz.

RamStock · Unread post by **RamStock** » 5 years ago

phipsiGD'11 wrote: ↑5 years ago
Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago Staff is onto recruiting the ‘20 class. Don’t expect another add to the roster for the Fall. Scholarship available for a mid year transfer.
Maybe it is just because I don't know what I'm talking about, but I feel like this is a mature move from our staff. They're not just settling for a question mark player to take the last spot on the bench. I know people have questioned Cox ability to recruit without DH running the program, but if Walker is able to contribute it gives more hope that Coach Cox's patient style to recruiting is working. We've had some great transfers in recent history, so if they're not feeling that they can get their player right now let's wait and see who's going to be available mid year.

But like I said, I'm certainly no basketball whiz.

It sounds like you are dead on. Great move to leave the scholarship open and not to settle on a junior college player with no offensive game that we are hoping for a ceiling of 10 minutes a game. If someone who was a high end player became available next week Cox would use his final scholarship right away, but will not go looking to take anyone that isn't a certain to play big time minutes in the next couple of years.

rhodyblue12 · Unread post by **rhodyblue12** » 5 years ago

I assume this is code for “we aren’t getting Kareem Reid”....

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 5 years ago

ESPN’s final Top 100 for 2019

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/bask ... errankings

CHICO 78 · Unread post by **CHICO 78** » 5 years ago

UMASS is the only A-10 School with a top 100 recruit. Unless I missed something.
Not a great look. VCU has a shot before next year, they are on a few of the undecided
prospect lists. But it's not looking good.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

Go look at the top players in the A10 and how many were ranked in the Top 100. Just easy no - Dowtin, Cyril, Topin.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

CHICO 78 wrote: ↑5 years ago UMASS is the only A-10 School with a top 100 recruit. Unless I missed something.
Not a great look. VCU has a shot before next year, they are on a few of the undecided
prospect lists. But it's not looking good.

You didn’t miss anything. He is the only commitment ranked Top 100 - he is ranked #70

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

Ty’s IG story today has him landing in Wichita. Must be an open gym and/or in-home visit.
Today and tomorrow are in the Recruiting Period (in person and off campus visits, no AAU events)
Thursday is a Quiet Period (only on college campus visits)
Friday - Sunday is an Evaluation Period (sanctioned AAU events)

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago Ty’s IG story today has him landing in Wichita. Must be an open gym and/or in-home visit.
Today and tomorrow are in the Recruiting Period (in person and off campus visits, no AAU events)
Thursday is a Quiet Period (only on college campus visits)
Friday - Sunday is an Evaluation Period (sanctioned AAU events)

Hmmm...who are we recruiting from Kansas?

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

Possibly someone from Hutchinson CC. High rated JUCO program. Not far from Wichita.

bkoeppen · Unread post by **bkoeppen** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago Possibly someone from Hutchinson CC. High rated JUCO program. Not far from Wichita.

wasn't Elijah Wood going to high school in Wichita?

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

Or Shakur Juiston?

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 5 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑5 years ago Or Shakur Juiston?

How does that make sense?

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

Iggy1979 wrote: ↑5 years ago
Billyboy78 wrote: ↑5 years ago Or Shakur Juiston?
How does that make sense?

He is transferring. We came up 2nd in his recruiting when he was in JC. He played at Hutchinson in Kansas. Maybe he's working out at his old JC. I have no idea. I'm just guessing. ....and dreaming.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

http://www.bluedragonsports.com/sports/ ... -19/roster

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago http://www.bluedragonsports.com/sports/ ... -19/roster

If I had to guess from that roster, I'd say D.J. Mitchell.

bkoeppen · Unread post by **bkoeppen** » 5 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑5 years ago
Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago http://www.bluedragonsports.com/sports/ ... -19/roster
If I had to guess from that roster, I'd say D.J. Mitchell.

could be the prep school Elijah Wood played for: Sunrise - it's in Wichita

https://www.sunrisechristianhoops.com/p ... ty-hs-team

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

Could be looking at two players on that roster. DJ seems like a logical choice and was 2nd leading scorer at 13.8 ppg, 37.5% 3PT and 83% FT.

reckless jake · Unread post by **reckless jake** » 5 years ago

If we're talking about Hutchinson CC, let's hope we're talking about James Rojas, a JC All American, ranked the #5 Juco in the country. Rojas is a 6-8 PF from Jamestown, NY and recently got his release from Buffalo and is uncommitted. He was Hutchinson's leading scorer, averaging 18.8 points per game on 55% shooting (33% on threes) and averaged 5.8 rebounds per game.

If you're gonna dream, dream big.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

bkoeppen wrote: ↑5 years ago
Billyboy78 wrote: ↑5 years ago
Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago http://www.bluedragonsports.com/sports/ ... -19/roster
If I had to guess from that roster, I'd say D.J. Mitchell.
could be the prep school Elijah Wood played for: Sunrise - it's in Wichita

https://www.sunrisechristianhoops.com/p ... ty-hs-team

Elijah Wood didn’t stay in Wichita. He was back at Bethesda Chevy Chase (BCC) High School in MD after a few months.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

reckless jake wrote: ↑5 years ago If we're talking about Hutchinson CC, let's hope we're talking about James Rojas, a JC All American, ranked the #5 Juco in the country. Rojas is a 6-8 PF from Jamestown, NY and recently got his release from Buffalo and is uncommitted. He was Hutchinson's leading scorer, averaging 18.8 points per game on 55% shooting (33% on threes) and averaged 5.8 rebounds per game.

If you're gonna dream, dream big.

That was my first hope/dream. But I believe URI is done recruiting for next year’s team.

bkoeppen · Unread post by **bkoeppen** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago
bkoeppen wrote: ↑5 years ago
Billyboy78 wrote: ↑5 years ago

If I had to guess from that roster, I'd say D.J. Mitchell.
could be the prep school Elijah Wood played for: Sunrise - it's in Wichita

https://www.sunrisechristianhoops.com/p ... ty-hs-team
Elijah Wood didn’t stay in Wichita. He was back at Bethesda Chevy Chase (BCC) High School in MD after a few months.

agreed - found that out after my first post - just saying sunrise could be another school boswell is looking at.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago Could be looking at two players on that roster. DJ seems like a logical choice and was 2nd leading scorer at 13.8 ppg, 37.5% 3PT and 83% FT.

And he's from DC.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 5 years ago

The only way I would take another juco guard is if they have 3 years to play.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 5 years ago

Rojas seems a lock for Alabama

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago
reckless jake wrote: ↑5 years ago If we're talking about Hutchinson CC, let's hope we're talking about James Rojas, a JC All American, ranked the #5 Juco in the country. Rojas is a 6-8 PF from Jamestown, NY and recently got his release from Buffalo and is uncommitted. He was Hutchinson's leading scorer, averaging 18.8 points per game on 55% shooting (33% on threes) and averaged 5.8 rebounds per game.

If you're gonna dream, dream big.
That was my first hope/dream. But I believe URI is done recruiting for next year’s team.

I don’t think recruiting is done for this year.

Buffalo is now left with no recruits for this years incoming class with Nate Oates having left for Alabama. If we are to see Rojas on the floor in a URI Game this year chances are it will be with Rojas in a Alabama uniform, not in a Keaney Blue uniform. Rojas will likely follow Oates to Tuscaloosa.

https://buffalonews.com/2019/04/05/dure ... ecruiting/

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 5 years ago

What's happening at Buffalo is what could've happened at URI last year.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

Agree with you Iggy.

reckless jake · Unread post by **reckless jake** » 5 years ago

Iggy1979 wrote: ↑5 years ago Rojas seems a lock for Alabama

You may be right, but Rojas asked for his release from Buffalo 3 weeks ago and he received it 2 weeks ago, but he's uncommitted since his release. Meanwhile, it seems that Alabama only has 1 open scholarship remaining and they are working several different options to fill it and Rojas doesn't appear to be their top choice according a couple different sources.

Sadly, it's probably very unlikely we're in the mix for Rojas although I wish we were. As our schedule gets more difficult we could use a game proven big in addition to Langevine.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

233 have entered the early entry draft list. Only 2 rounds of the draft take place.

https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com ... aiting-on/

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

With only 60 going to be drafted, most will be returning to school.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 5 years ago

ramster wrote: ↑5 years ago 233 have entered the early entry draft list. Only 2 rounds of the draft take place.

https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com ... aiting-on/

Wow.

At least they'll get a good idea on how they stack up.

A good number of those drafted will be from overseas as well, so itll really be around 45 drafted and about 2 two ways per team picked up, plus the summer leaguers. I doubt anyone would forgo another year in college to be a summer leaguer.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

Interesting details on the NBA Draft:
The underclassmen who have declared have two options to return to college. They can withdraw by June 10th or can return if they aren’t drafted. So if a player stays in the draft and is picked late in the 2nd round (no guaranteed contract) they would be stuck.

I think you will see a lot of players withdraw shortly after getting feedback from the NBA Combine (May 14-19).
Last year 69 players were invited to the Combine. So a lot of underclassmen will get their feedback when they don’t get invited.

175 college underclassmen declared and 58 international players declared. The Mock Drafts show a lite year for international players with 4-5 being selected. They also show 8 Sr being drafted. That would have 47-48 underclassmen out if the 175 being drafted.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

Bishop teammate at Ihotep. Had a better Sr year than Bishop.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

Rhody coaches are in Atlanta (Nike), Dallas (Adidas) & Kansas City (Under Armour) at AAU Tournaments today thru Sunday.
Boswell, Sutton, TJ and Coach Cox. The main focus is Nike and Adidas Tournaments.