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'19 MD F Marial Mading (Pacific Commit)
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Boswell really like Mading a lot.
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Mading visit very quiet so far. He is hardly ever on social media. He is also from a non-circuit AAU program and a smaller school in Springfield MA.
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We can debate the different opnions we have on a recruit’s talent and skill level. We can discount their ratings by the recruiting web sites. Many on the Board with experience have agreed that a good measure is the other schools that have made offers.
Mading is rated 300+. Forget that though. He has offers from Tulane, Hofstra, Quinnipiac & Rhode Island.
Mading is rated 300+. Forget that though. He has offers from Tulane, Hofstra, Quinnipiac & Rhode Island.
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Since we're still in play with Walker and McLeod, and also Hammond, what happens if Mading wants to commit?
I don't think we can take all 4....although that would be a nice problem to have I guess.
Do we hold off on Mading until the other 2 bigs make their decisions?
I don't think we can take all 4....although that would be a nice problem to have I guess.
Do we hold off on Mading until the other 2 bigs make their decisions?
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These are questions that will be answered over the next few weeks.
DC Rams says that URI will accept Madings verbal this weekend if he commits.
DC Rams says that URI will accept Madings verbal this weekend if he commits.
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I say they accept Mading if he commits as well
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I really hope they hold off. I am in the camp that feels he is a project. I would much rather shoot for Walker, McLeod and Hammond which isn’t happening if he signs. If they had gotten a combination of Bishop, Walker, McLeod or Hammond and he was mixed in with him it would have been alright,
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Mading is on campus for his official visit.
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Fact he is on campus tells a lot. I think he commits and I’d be happy. This staff wants to upgrade the roster. My guess is we find room for the other 3 guys as well. They could’ve more Akele and Layssard roster moves. This staff knows what it’s doing.RamStock wrote: ↑5 years agoI really hope they hold off. I am in the camp that feels he is a project. I would much rather shoot for Walker, McLeod and Hammond which isn’t happening if he signs. If they had gotten a combination of Bishop, Walker, McLeod or Hammond and he was mixed in with him it would have been alright,
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Bingo!ramster wrote: ↑5 years agoFact he is on campus tells a lot. I think he commits and I’d be happy. This staff wants to upgrade the roster. My guess is we find room for the other 3 guys as well. They could’ve more Akele and Layssard roster moves. This staff knows what it’s doing.RamStock wrote: ↑5 years agoI really hope they hold off. I am in the camp that feels he is a project. I would much rather shoot for Walker, McLeod and Hammond which isn’t happening if he signs. If they had gotten a combination of Bishop, Walker, McLeod or Hammond and he was mixed in with him it would have been alright,
The staff will make it happen. Trust the process.
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Is Mading even on his OV? Usually there is something floating about.
I know a lot of people aren't really excited about him, so maybe not the usually digging
for info going on. But this is strange to hear nothing. crickets?
I know a lot of people aren't really excited about him, so maybe not the usually digging
for info going on. But this is strange to hear nothing. crickets?
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He is on his official visit. That is confirmed. See my post above on the reasons you aren’t seeing anything on social media.
The team, school and coaches can’t put anything out regarding a recruit’s visit.
The current players he has been with haven’t posted anything on their social media either.
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Appears they have taken Mading to dinner.
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Right. Shogun Steak & Seafood House on Rte 1. Fatts, Martin, Mading & parent and the coaches.
Same place they took Walker to.
Same place they took Walker to.
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I think we hear something soon on this one. If no commit by tomorrow, he will likely wait.
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What does that mean? Is waiting hearing something soon?
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Hopefully he waits. He has offers from Quinipac, Hofstra and Tulane. We have Hammond coming in next week. Why would we want to rush until we met Hammond and got a better idea on where Walker and McLeod stand also.
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Let’s just wait on this awhile.
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Staff wants him. I think if they take him this weekend, we fill 4 ships.
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I’m all for signing a 4 * recruit at any time. You get into low numbers there is no rush. At all.
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One thing I give Hurley credit for is getting high ranked recruits. Cox needs to replicate that or have some master plan to keep us on the national stage.
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If you count the scholarship that was just used for Aris, how would you feel about the first three commits being Long, Aris & Mading?
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Dan was here for six seasons and how many top 150 recruits did we sign during that time? Let’s give Cox six years and then let’s compare apples and apples. Cox hasn’t even coached a game yet so people need to relax. I don’t think recruiting will be our issue, I have faith in his ability.theblueram wrote: ↑5 years ago One thing I give Hurley credit for is getting high ranked recruits. Cox needs to replicate that or have some master plan to keep us on the national stage.
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Does anyone know anything about Aris still? Mading is 6-11 with tons of potential playing out at the perimeter potentially, staff knows what they are doing.
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Not in a rush but the two situations aren’t comparable. Dan came into a total rebuild. Cox is taking over an ascending program with the best recruiting class in school history.
How would you feel about selling Walker to “come be apart of this great recruiting class (Long and Mading)”?
Go get McLeod and try to use that to sell Walker.
How would you feel about selling Walker to “come be apart of this great recruiting class (Long and Mading)”?
Go get McLeod and try to use that to sell Walker.
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I’ve read some dumb sh_t on here before, and this is up there. Really, dude?theblueram wrote: ↑5 years ago One thing I give Hurley credit for is getting high ranked recruits. Cox needs to replicate that or have some master plan to keep us on the national stage.
He’s been the HC for 3/4 months now. Most of the names on the roster, present and past, were from Cox.
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But even with Long and Mading, Walker would be the headliner and would be positioned for not only immediate playing team but rather to be a foundational type player with Harris. That’s not a bad spot to be in.Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago Not in a rush but the two situations aren’t comparable. Dan came into a total rebuild. Cox is taking over an ascending program with the best recruiting class in school history.
How would you feel about selling Walker to “come be apart of this great recruiting class (Long and Mading)”?
Go get McLeod and try to use that to sell Walker.
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Yes Cox was the lead recruiter on many of our recruits under Dan....but Hurley was still the HC and the "closer" on all of them.
David has to prove he can close the deal as well as Dan did....and I have full confidence that he will, but it might take a little more time as Cox has not coached his first game as HC yet.
It's clear to me that we can't take all 5 guys we're looking hard at right now....meaning Walker, Mcleod, Hammond, and Mading, along with the already committed Long. Actually add in Aris, and that's 6.
The staff knows this, of course. So of the 4 that haven't yet committed, we will only get 2 imo.
David has to prove he can close the deal as well as Dan did....and I have full confidence that he will, but it might take a little more time as Cox has not coached his first game as HC yet.
It's clear to me that we can't take all 5 guys we're looking hard at right now....meaning Walker, Mcleod, Hammond, and Mading, along with the already committed Long. Actually add in Aris, and that's 6.
The staff knows this, of course. So of the 4 that haven't yet committed, we will only get 2 imo.
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I don’t think most people would feel good at all. If you listened to the David Cox show it will be sometime before Aris contributes and I think many people see Mading in the same category. Long is a great get next to a McLeod, Walker, Bishop and even Hammond, but not sure you want him as your top recruit. I love Cox and his staff and think we still get McLeod and hopefully Hammond, but just saying trust the staff doesn’t mean everyone has to agree on every recruit. I think getting Walker will be tougher land from Pitt, but holding out hope as we did with Harris. Just as I can’t say that Aris and Mading will never contribute, people can’t say they are great recruits because the staff recruited them and we have to trust the staff. Look at the threads on Layssard and Tertsea when they signed. Everyone was excited about them. Cox will succeed for sure and we will all have to wait to pass judgement on the 2019 class.
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Fatts IG story shows Mading and other players in a suite at the Ryan Center at the concert last night.
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EC, Terrell, Robinson, Iverson, Martin (on some sites), Martin again (on some sites), Langevine (on some sites), Adams (on some sites), Harris. Not sure if I’m missing any. 83 has already pointed out that it’s silly to compare, though. That’s apples and kumquats. There’s a slight difference between recruiting in the context of tournament appearances and wins/conference championships/solid fan base and interest and no NCAA tournament since 1999/a campus that wasn’t even sure when game were. Also, if you’re going to credit only Cox with building the roster of the last few years, then I guess only Sutton, Carroll, or Boswell should get credit for anything moving forward. I think recruiting will be fine in the long run. They may need to show to some that they’ve really arrived as a program and that the last few years really are the new normal.CT Rhody wrote: ↑5 years agoDan was here for six seasons and how many top 150 recruits did we sign during that time? Let’s give Cox six years and then let’s compare apples and apples.theblueram wrote: ↑5 years ago One thing I give Hurley credit for is getting high ranked recruits. Cox needs to replicate that or have some master plan to keep us on the national stage.
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Can’t argue anything here. Will just say in the 6 years while only including freshmen, Dan landed Harris, Adams, Terrel, EC, and Martin so five according to Rivals and 247 who track at least up to the top 150. Obviously David has the advantage of walking into a program in a much different position then when Dan walked in. But Dan also has a huge advantage with his last name. Time will tell, I do think Walker is a huge factor in grading the initial recruiting class until on court results can be added in.ace wrote: ↑5 years agoEC, Terrell, Robinson, Iverson, Martin (on some sites), Martin again (on some sites), Langevine (on some sites), Adams (on some sites), Harris. Not sure if I’m missing any. 83 has already pointed out that it’s silly to compare, though. That’s apples and kumquats. There’s a slight difference between recruiting in the context of tournament appearances and wins/conference championships/solid fan base and interest and no NCAA tournament since 1999/a campus that wasn’t even sure when game were. Also, if you’re going to credit only Cox with building the roster of the last few years, then I guess only Sutton, Carroll, or Boswell should get credit for anything moving forward. I think recruiting will be fine in the long run. They may need to show to some that they’ve really arrived as a program and that the last few years really are the new normal.CT Rhody wrote: ↑5 years agoDan was here for six seasons and how many top 150 recruits did we sign during that time? Let’s give Cox six years and then let’s compare apples and apples.theblueram wrote: ↑5 years ago One thing I give Hurley credit for is getting high ranked recruits. Cox needs to replicate that or have some master plan to keep us on the national stage.
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Cox is on the road as HC much more than Hurley was, and that is because Cox is trying to make his name. Hurley was a closer, when we were close to landing the recruit, he’d start making trips. Again, as he should. So, that why you can’t just credit the assistants, because Cox is still in the road with that “assistant” mentality, so to speak.ace wrote: ↑5 years agoEC, Terrell, Robinson, Iverson, Martin (on some sites), Martin again (on some sites), Langevine (on some sites), Adams (on some sites), Harris. Not sure if I’m missing any. 83 has already pointed out that it’s silly to compare, though. That’s apples and kumquats. There’s a slight difference between recruiting in the context of tournament appearances and wins/conference championships/solid fan base and interest and no NCAA tournament since 1999/a campus that wasn’t even sure when game were. Also, if you’re going to credit only Cox with building the roster of the last few years, then I guess only Sutton, Carroll, or Boswell should get credit for anything moving forward. I think recruiting will be fine in the long run. They may need to show to some that they’ve really arrived as a program and that the last few years really are the new normal.CT Rhody wrote: ↑5 years agoDan was here for six seasons and how many top 150 recruits did we sign during that time? Let’s give Cox six years and then let’s compare apples and apples.theblueram wrote: ↑5 years ago One thing I give Hurley credit for is getting high ranked recruits. Cox needs to replicate that or have some master plan to keep us on the national stage.
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I don’t think you know how much Dan traveled when he first got here. Do you have his calendarsDC_Rams wrote: ↑5 years agoCox is on the road as HC much more than Hurley was, and that is because Cox is trying to make his name. Hurley was a closer, when we were close to landing the recruit, he’d start making trips. Again, as he should. So, that why you can’t just credit the assistants, because Cox is still in the road with that “assistant” mentality, so to speak.ace wrote: ↑5 years agoEC, Terrell, Robinson, Iverson, Martin (on some sites), Martin again (on some sites), Langevine (on some sites), Adams (on some sites), Harris. Not sure if I’m missing any. 83 has already pointed out that it’s silly to compare, though. That’s apples and kumquats. There’s a slight difference between recruiting in the context of tournament appearances and wins/conference championships/solid fan base and interest and no NCAA tournament since 1999/a campus that wasn’t even sure when game were. Also, if you’re going to credit only Cox with building the roster of the last few years, then I guess only Sutton, Carroll, or Boswell should get credit for anything moving forward. I think recruiting will be fine in the long run. They may need to show to some that they’ve really arrived as a program and that the last few years really are the new normal.
Ask Fatts how many of his games Dan was at.
Cox is transitioning because he was the Ast lead on several of these recruits. Ty travels the most by far.
Ty became the lead on Bishop and was at everyone of his games. Cox was not.
Ty is the lead on Dammond. Cox has played the traditional HC role on that recruit. Ty went to see him and then Ty went again with Cox for the in home visit.
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I’ll keep to myself.
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You obviously haven’t been here long if you think my post was some dumb shit. Hurley got EC and Hass his first class. Let’s see how this plays out. We had what, 4 schollies to give out. That’s a big class.DC_Rams wrote: ↑5 years agoI’ve read some dumb sh_t on here before, and this is up there. Really, dude?theblueram wrote: ↑5 years ago One thing I give Hurley credit for is getting high ranked recruits. Cox needs to replicate that or have some master plan to keep us on the national stage.
He’s been the HC for 3/4 months now. Most of the names on the roster, present and past, were from Cox.
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Does anybody know if Mading is a four year senior or a post grad?
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He is a four year senior. He started at Goretti High School in MD. He transferred to Commonwealth Academy for his Jr year.
I believe he is originally from Australia.
I believe he is originally from Australia.
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crystal balls on 247 has a pick for Tulane for Marial -- interesting right after the URI visit
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we can play that game...theblueram wrote: ↑5 years agoYou obviously haven’t been here long if you think my post was some dumb shit. Hurley got EC and Hass his first class. Let’s see how this plays out. We had what, 4 schollies to give out. That’s a big class.DC_Rams wrote: ↑5 years agoI’ve read some dumb sh_t on here before, and this is up there. Really, dude?theblueram wrote: ↑5 years ago One thing I give Hurley credit for is getting high ranked recruits. Cox needs to replicate that or have some master plan to keep us on the national stage.
He’s been the HC for 3/4 months now. Most of the names on the roster, present and past, were from Cox.
keeping Jermaine = getting EC
Hass was not a highly ranked recruit. 3 star, 88 score, between 180-200 nationally depending on the site
Mading, for comparison, is a 3 star, 87 score.
and dont forget Hurley's early recruiting success was mostly Preston. EC/Hass/Terrell/Jarvis.
After Preston it was a few years of average recruiting at best before hitting on Dowtin, Cyril and Fatts
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Hass was hurt his senior year.
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After hitting on Dowtin, Cyril and Fatts and then hitting on the most highly ranked class we have had in the era where all recruits were ranked, and that's putting aside EC, Jared and Hass. The idea that Preston did it, then Cox did it, and that Dan wasn't the driving force is ridiculous. The coach is the CEO, he is the closer, his pedigree and success attracted kids at the end of the day. Yes the lead recruiters are doing the leg work but that's the case on every staff, ultimately the head coach is sealing the deal on every kid.Da_Process_Survivor wrote: ↑5 years agowe can play that game...theblueram wrote: ↑5 years agoYou obviously haven’t been here long if you think my post was some dumb shit. Hurley got EC and Hass his first class. Let’s see how this plays out. We had what, 4 schollies to give out. That’s a big class.
keeping Jermaine = getting EC
Hass was not a highly ranked recruit. 3 star, 88 score, between 180-200 nationally depending on the site
Mading, for comparison, is a 3 star, 87 score.
and dont forget Hurley's early recruiting success was mostly Preston. EC/Hass/Terrell/Jarvis.
After Preston it was a few years of average recruiting at best before hitting on Dowtin, Cyril and Fatts
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Do you stand by that for Jim Baron?bigappleram wrote: ↑5 years agoAfter hitting on Dowtin, Cyril and Fatts and then hitting on the most highly ranked class we have had in the era where all recruits were ranked, and that's putting aside EC, Jared and Hass. The idea that Preston did it, then Cox did it, and that Dan wasn't the driving force is ridiculous. The coach is the CEO, he is the closer, his pedigree and success attracted kids at the end of the day. Yes the lead recruiters are doing the leg work but that's the case on every staff, ultimately the head coach is sealing the deal on every kid.Da_Process_Survivor wrote: ↑5 years agowe can play that game...theblueram wrote: ↑5 years ago
You obviously haven’t been here long if you think my post was some dumb shit. Hurley got EC and Hass his first class. Let’s see how this plays out. We had what, 4 schollies to give out. That’s a big class.
keeping Jermaine = getting EC
Hass was not a highly ranked recruit. 3 star, 88 score, between 180-200 nationally depending on the site
Mading, for comparison, is a 3 star, 87 score.
and dont forget Hurley's early recruiting success was mostly Preston. EC/Hass/Terrell/Jarvis.
After Preston it was a few years of average recruiting at best before hitting on Dowtin, Cyril and Fatts
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And fwiw in those "few average years" you mention Dan secured 2 bona fide 4 star recruits Stan Robinson and Kuran Iverson as transfers. Cmon now.