A-10 All Conference Teams FINAL

[ramster]

Original Coaches Voting

PRESEASON ALL-CONFERENCE FIRST TEAM
Kellan Grady, Davidson
Jon Axel Gudmundsson, Davidson
Obi Toppin, Dayton
Cyril Langevine, Rhode Island
Jacob Gilyard, Richmond
Marcus Evans, VCU

PRESEASON ALL-CONFERENCE SECOND TEAM
Jalen Crutcher, Dayton
Justin Kier, George Manson
Jeff Dowtin, Rhode Island
Grant Golden, Richmond
Kyle Lofton, St. Bonaventure
Hasahn French, Saint Louis

PRESEASON ALL-CONFERENCE THIRD TEAM
Sincere Carry, Duquesne
Fatts Russell, Rhode Island
Osun Osunniyi, St. Bonaventure
Jordan Goodwin, Saint Louis
De'Riante Jenkins, VCU
Marcus Santos-Silva, VCU

PRESEASON ALL-DEFENSIVE TEAM
Cyril Langevine, Rhode Island
Jacob Gilyard, Richmond
Osun Osunniyi, St. Bonaventure
Hasahn French, Saint Louis
Marcus Evans, VCU

[rambone 78]

Going to be some major changes from those lists!

[Rhody15]

Will be interesting to see if Fatts makes first team over Gilyard (Crutcher is a given.)

[rambone 78]

He would have 3 weeks ago.

[ramster]

Will need to find room on the 3 teams for:
Tre Mitchell
Blake Francis
Tre Landers
Ryan Daly - although I’m not a big fan
Nathan Cayo?
Nick Sherod?
Javonte Perkins?
Marcus Weathers?


Kier and Jenkins come off

[Rhody15]

Evans will come off too.

[ramster]

My guess for All Rookie

Jamison Battle-GW
Bones Hyland-VCU
Hyunjung Lee-Davidson
Tre Mitchell-UMASS
Joel Soriano-Fordham

If a 6th person then Jameer Nelson Jr

[PeterRamTime]

I'm sure Fatts played himself onto 2nd team.

The A-10 hates us.

[steviep123]

After Robinson got shafted on DPOY 2 years ago (and also Garrick from 1st team in 1988), I don't trust whoever votes in these post season awards.

[PeterRamTime]

After Robinson got shafted on DPOY 2 years ago (and also Garrick from 1st team in 1988), I don't trust whoever votes in these post season awards.

Garrick wasnt first team in 88????

What about Silk?

If getting second team makes Fatts go off then I'm all for it.

[steviep123]

After Robinson got shafted on DPOY 2 years ago (and also Garrick from 1st team in 1988), I don't trust whoever votes in these post season awards.

Garrick wasnt first team in 88????

What about Silk?

If getting second team makes Fatts go off then I'm all for it.

In '88, Silk was first team and Garrick 2nd team in a bad snub. Mark Macon was chosen first team. Garrick responded by torching Rutgers for 50 in the first round, and basically averaged scoring in the mid 20s in the 6 games URI played after it, including, I think 28 vs. Syracuse.

[Rhody15]

I'm sure Fatts played himself onto 2nd team.

The A-10 hates us.

It’s not the A10s fault that Fatts has fallen off and his shooting % dropped to below 40%, his scoring drastically dropped, and we shit the bed down the stretch.

[TruePoint]

URI forfeited all rights to whine about these awards this year with their play down the stretch. I don’t want to hear about anyone getting snubbed.

[steviep123]

I would expect a 19 ppg scorer and one of the top leaders in steals in the country on a top 3 team in the conference to be no worse than 2nd team all conference, and likely first. If Fatts for example, is snubbed for someone like Ryan Daly, then yes, it's a snubb. But if the other guards are from top 4 teams, then it isn't as much as a snub. Still, I'd have a hard time believing there are two guards more deserving that Fatts for first team based on the stats.

[Rhody15]

I would expect a 19 ppg scorer and one of the top leaders in steals in the country on a top 3 team in the conference to be no worse than 2nd team all conference, and likely first. If Fatts for example, is snubbed for someone like Ryan Daly, then yes, it's a snubb. But if the other guards are from top 4 teams, then it isn't as much as a snub. Still, I'd have a hard time believing there are two guards more deserving that Fatts for first team based on the stats.

Crutcher and Gilyard.

[PeterRamTime]

I'm sure Fatts played himself onto 2nd team.

The A-10 hates us.

It’s not the A10s fault that Fatts has fallen off and his shooting % dropped to below 40%, his scoring drastically dropped, and we shit the bed down the stretch.

Just saying I'm sure he wont get first team.

It is true that if he were on most any other team he would still be first team.

[ramster]

I'm sure Fatts played himself onto 2nd team.

The A-10 hates us.

It’s not the A10s fault that Fatts has fallen off and his shooting % dropped to below 40%, his scoring drastically dropped, and we shit the bed down the stretch.

Just saying I'm sure he wont get first team.

It is true that if he were on most any other team he would still be first team.

In A10 Conference Play (which is of course the only games that are used for Conference Team Selection) Russell’s Field Goal Percentage is: 100-273 =36%

[CHICO 78]

I think Fatts played himself onto the 3rd team. The last 6 games were brutal.

[RF1]

I'm sure Fatts played himself onto 2nd team.

The A-10 hates us.

I am not sure it is because they hate us. They just don't give a thought about us and could care less about us and our role in the league. We are the far northeast outpost of an increasingly southern based league that's only purpose is for many to enjoy some seafood on occasions they are forced to visit.

[Rhodyhooopz]

After Robinson got shafted on DPOY 2 years ago (and also Garrick from 1st team in 1988), I don't trust whoever votes in these post season awards.

Garrick wasnt first team in 88????

What about Silk?

If getting second team makes Fatts go off then I'm all for it.

In '88, Silk was first team and Garrick 2nd team in a bad snub. Mark Macon was chosen first team. Garrick responded by torching Rutgers for 50 in the first round, and basically averaged scoring in the mid 20s in the 6 games URI played after it, including, I think 28 vs. Syracuse.

I remember Penders using that as a motivating tool. We were the Raiders of the A10

[Rhodyram]

I don't see Rhody getting anyone on the first team

[rhodyfan3000]

Hopefully, they put Fatts on 3rd team. Would light a bonfire under his butt.

[Rhodymob05]

Fatts- 18.8 ppg 5 assists 4.1 reb 3.1 steals. Feels like First team material to me.

[RF1]

I think Fatts played himself onto the 3rd team. The last 6 games were brutal.

While the last six games were tough, the award should be based on body of work which would be the full 18 game schedule where URI was 3rd best with a record of 13-5.

[Rhodymob05]

Fatts also had 15 games scoring at least 20 points. The kid had a great season.

[Billyboy78]

Fatts was the 2nd best player in the league for much of the conference schedule. 5 or 6 subpar games is not going to bump him down to 3rd team. Look at the entire 18 game schedule and he's a 1st teamer.

[Rhodyram]

2/3 of the conf games were great, 1/3 not so much- chance of 1st team- most likely second

[ramster]

[phipsiGD'11]

And to think we didn't want to take the chance and wait for his academics...

[steviep123]

And to think we didn't want to take the chance and wait for his academics...

Is that confirmed? I've heard that as a rumor, but would he have chosen to come here if we weren't afraid of the risk?

[RF1]

Bill Koch's picks (as he noted the media does not vote for the official All Conference teams as it is per the coaches selection)

[Rhody15]

And to think we didn't want to take the chance and wait for his academics...

Is that confirmed? I've heard that as a rumor, but would he have chosen to come here if we weren't afraid of the risk?

Pretty positive we needed a body and Ryan Preston was eligible and Obi was not, so we went with Preston.

[reef]

I would put Dowtin in over Cyril

[rhodyruckus]

I would put Dowtin in over Cyril

Just like the whole triple-double stat is kind of useless (would you rather have a 40 point/15 rebound/9 assist game or 15 point/10 rebound/10 assist game?), I think Cyril averaging a double-double will give him an edge to make the 3rd team even though the averages are 10.1 & 10.3. I would also give Jeff the edge only because he is actually someone I want to have the ball in the last few minutes of a game, where Cyril's sub 50% free throw shooting makes me want the ball far away from him unless there is a put-back tip off the rebound to be had.

[phipsiGD'11]

I hope Jeff takes this and brings an attitude to Brooklyn similar to what we saw against VCU last year.

I honestly believe Jeff will end up on an NBA roster this time next year.

[reef]

I think most would agree here if it’s a choice between JD or CL for 3rd team most would pick JD

[PeterRamTime]

I hope Jeff takes this and brings an attitude to Brooklyn similar to what we saw against VCU last year.

I honestly believe Jeff will end up on an NBA roster this time next year.

Cheers to that!

Killer Jeff is a good Jeff for Rhody in postseason time.

In regards to his NBA prospects, I think his funky mechanics on his jumpshot will be what keeps him from getting far in the NBA.

[steviep123]

And to think we didn't want to take the chance and wait for his academics...

Is that confirmed? I've heard that as a rumor, but would he have chosen to come here if we weren't afraid of the risk?

Pretty positive we needed a body and Ryan Preston was eligible and Obi was not, so we went with Preston.

Right. I know we chose not to offer Obi Toppin due to need but would he have chosen to come here if offered is another question.

[ramster]

Bill,
Thanks for sharing your picks prior to the A-10 release
I like how Joel Soriano came on for Fordham the second half of the season. He will be a star in the A-10, I like your pick of Yuri Collins as PG on the Rookie Team
The A-10 released 6 players per team in preseason. I’d expect 6 per team in post season even though I prefer the traditional 5 per team. So you might add another player to your 3 teams, defensive and rookie teams.

I like Jeff Dowtin over Ryan Daly or Kyle Lofton. Dowtin played very tough defense and typically took on the opponents best player. His defense was suffocating especially during URI’s 10 game win streak. Fatts got the steals for sure but I was astounded at the defense from Jeff. It’s one of the parts of Jeff’s game that I think gets unnoticed and why I think Jeff could have a surprise shot at the NBA. Jeff is a superb passer too.

As for Soriano, he did not get in the starting line up until the 7th A10 game

He finished an amazing 5th in A10 in rebounds and 7th in blocked shots despite not starting til game 7

His last 5 games in A10 rebounds/points
Lost (49-57) UMASS (16/14)
Lost (75-76) URI (13/14)
Lost (69-73) @ St Joe (12/11)
Won (63-52) @ GW (15/14)
Lost (61-65) GMU (10/6)

So 66 rebounds and 59 points his last 5 games is 13.3 rpg and 11.8 ppg, a double-double for a freshman

He averaged 8.4 rpg behind only French, Langevine, Goodwin, Santos-Silva
He averaged 1.2 blocks/game behind only Hughes, French, Langevine, Wilson, Osunniyi, Santos-Silva.

Watch this kid if he stays the next 3 years. He lives close to Fordham. Family and friends support nearby. Very exciting player for the future.

Upcoming Games:
Fordham vs George Washington 3:30pm Wednesday. Fordham just won at GW with Soriano 15 rebounds, 14 points. Fordham beat GW twice: (59-54) and (63-52)
Winner plays Duquesne 8:30pm Thursday. Fordham lost to Duquesne (54-59) and (56-58)
Winner plays URI 8:30pm Friday. Fordham lost to URI (75-76)

My surprise A10 pick is Fordham beats GW and Duquesne and then plays URI Friday night. Watch this kid Soriano. And don’t think Fordham can’t beat URI. We snatched victory from defeat once already thanks to Jacob Toppin. Barclays is in Fordham’s backyard. Anything can happen.

[adam914]

Fatts first team and all defensive team. Dowtin third team and all academic team. Congrats to both, well deserved!

[steviep123]

Awards Announced


2019-20 Atlantic 10 Men's Basktball Awards

Player of the Year: Obi Toppin, Dayton
Defensive Player of the Year: Jacob Gilyard, Richmond
Rookie of the Year: Tre Mitchell, Massachusetts
Chris Daniels Most Improved Player: AJ Wilson, George Mason
Sixth Man of the Year: Javonte Perkins, Saint Louis
Coach of the Year: Anthony Grant, Dayton

All-Conference First Team
Jalen Crutcher, Dayton
Obi Toppin, Dayton
Fatts Russell, Rhode Island
Jacob Gilyard, Richmond
Kyle Lofton, St. Bonaventure
Jordan Goodwin, Saint Louis

All-Conference Second Team
Kellan Grady, Davidson
Marcus Weathers, Duquesne
Tre Mitchell, Massachusetts
Blake Francis, Richmond
Grant Golden, Richmond
Hasahn French, Saint Louis

All-Conference Third Team
Jon Axel Gudmundsson, Davidson
Trey Landers, Dayton
Jeff Dowtin, Rhode Island
Osun Osunniyi, St. Bonaventure
Ryan Daly, Saint Joseph’s
Javonte Perkins, Saint Louis

All-Academic Team
Ryan Mikesell, Dayton
Jeff Dowtin, Rhode Island
Jaren English, St. Bonaventure
Toliver Freeman, Saint Joseph’s
Marcus Santos-Silva, VCU

All-Defensive Team
Fatts Russell, Rhode Island
Jacob Gilyard, Richmond
Osun Osunniyi, St. Bonaventure
Hasahn French, Saint Louis
Jordan Goodwin, Saint Louis

All-Rookie Team
Hyunjung Lee, Davidson
Jamison Battle, George Washington
Tre Mitchell, Massachusetts
Yuri Collins, Saint Louis
Nah’Shon “Bones” Hyland, VCU

[steviep123]

Fatts first team and all defensive team. Dowtin third team and all academic team. Congrats to both, well deserved!

I was so quick to post that I missed yours. A little surprised Langevine didn't make something, but not much to complain about here.

[ramster]

Wonder why they make the 3 all conference teams 6 players each

But all academic, defensive and rookie are 5 players each?

Oh well

[ramster]

A shame Cyril Langevine did not make any team.

Ryan Daly over Cyril Langevine? Not even worthy of a discussion.

Ask the players to vote. Ask them about Langevine.

Disgusting.

[steviep123]

Wonder why they make the 3 all conference teams 6 players each

But all academic, defensive and rookie are 5 players each?

Oh well

That's a great point - either all teams with 5 or all with 6.

[PeterRamTime]

Is Kyle Lofton really that good?

[ramster]

Is Kyle Lofton really that good?

No

I can easily justify 6 players who should be 1st team over Lofton.

[PeterRamTime]

Is Kyle Lofton really that good?

No

I can easily justify 6 players who should be 1st team over Lofton.

Okay that's what I'm thinking.

I'd even put the much maligned Ryan Daly over him.

[ramster]

Is Kyle Lofton really that good?

No

I can easily justify 6 players who should be 1st team over Lofton.

Okay that's what I'm thinking.

I'd even put the much maligned Ryan Daly over him.

Daly is definitely not in my 6. I wouldn’t even have Daly 3rd team.

[theblueram]

FATTS 1st Team!!!! Fatts All Defensive Team