Week #17 – Games of Interest/A-10

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 8 years ago

Today begins Week #17, the last week of the regular college basketball season. The A-10 conference standings are still in a state of flux, but barring shocking ending, it looks like the tournament's double bye winners are VCU, St. Joseph's, Dayton and St. Bonaventure.

The teams certain to finish in the middle pack are GW, Davidson, URI and Richmond. The next four teams - Fordham, Duquesne, UMass, and Saint Louis are battling to stay out of the Wednesday play-in round and two of them will not make it. George Mason and La Salle are certain for Wednesday play.

Right now URI is in a good position to take the seven seed position. The Rams can leap frog Davidson to get sixth seed only if Davidson loses it's last two games - at VCU and a home date vs. GW - and URI wins its two final contests. Both UMass and Fordham will have extra incentive in those games given they are fighting to stay out of the bottom four.

URI could fall to eighth place if the Rams lose the final two and Richmond wins its final two - at home against wobbling Dayton and a road trip to GMU.

If URI wins the seven seed we will play at Barclay's on Thursday in the 6:30 PM game against the ten seed

In the polls, Dayton has now completely dropped out of both polls and no A-10 teams are currently ranked. St. Joseph's gets the most votes in both polls, followed by Dayton in the AP poll and Dayton and St. Bonaventure in the USA Today poll.

No A-10 games on the schedule on leap day.

This is the last installment this season for this type thread. This thread has its greatest impact when URI is fighting for an at-large invite to the NCAA and tracking our RPI and the impact of our opponent's game results and RPI is lots of fun, as is the discussion of other games of interest. Despite high hopes over the last four years, this thread's relevance has not reached it's full potential. I hope I haven't jinxed the process. Someday I just want to see that ant move that rubber tree plant.

Thanks to everyone of you who contributed to making this thread and this forum one of the best in CBB!!

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 8 years ago

Great work, Obadiah, thanks, much appreciated.

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 8 years ago

Obi those 4 teams are locked into the top 4 as GW has lost to both UD and SBU and would lose the tie breaker

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 8 years ago

Two A-10 games on the schedule Tuesday night:

* Dayton at Richmond. 7:30 PM. On CBS Sports. Richmond can only overtake URI in the tourney seeding if it wins its two final games, so for that and other reasons, we should root for Dayton to win this one.

* George Mason at GW. 8 PM. If GW wants positive momentum to carry them into the A-10 tournament and beyond, this is a must win.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 8 years ago

Always love the last week of the season. So much at stake!

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 8 years ago

a loss by Richmond means URI can't finish worse than 7th regardless of any other result

URI would win a 2 way tie with Richmond and a 3 way tie with Richmond and Fordham (UR and URI would be 2-1 vs the group and URI would then win the head to head once Fordham is eliminated)

We could be locked into the 7 seed before we play on Thursday if Richmond loses tonight and Davidson wins tomorrow

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 8 years ago

Thanks for the heads up, twisted. Let's hope both things happen before the UMass game.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

The Dayton board is melting down since they lost to us.

Hell, they could be even worse off. They could have easily lost to St. Louis and to us the first time we played.

A couple more losses and they might even fall to bubble status and have to win a couple in NY. Richmond tonight on the road and VCU at home. No cakewalk.

Epic collapse if it happens. I still think the A10 gets 4 in however.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 8 years ago

I hope nothing but the best for Dayton. Favorite team in the A-10 besides Rhody of course.
They'll be fine once pollard is 100 percent and they'll be ready to gun down teams in the dance.

STC · Unread post by **STC** » 8 years ago

Last time Dayton got run off the floor by Rhody they used it as the turning point and wound up in the Elite 8. They will be alright.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 8 years ago

I'm watching Dayton-Richmond, if only to hear them talk about Dayton's previous game.

Good to see Gary Parrish back at work.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

37-32 Richmond at the half.

Dayton is teetering. I'm guessing they pull this out though.

Or else they might have to beat VCU Saturday.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 8 years ago

Lookin like Dayton will close it out.
GW whoopin Mason.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

By the skin of their teeth, 85-84.

They are in the Dance for sure, doesn't matter how shaky they are right now.

We could play them again Friday night.

Guarantees us no worse than 7th if we beat UMass.

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 8 years ago

Dayton pulls it out, 85-84! Scoochie had 26 points. T.J. Cline had a monster game putting in 36 points.

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 8 years ago

rambone we are no worse than 7th, we would win a 2 way tie with richmond or 3 way tie with richmond and fordham

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 8 years ago

ace wrote:I'm watching Dayton-Richmond, if only to hear them talk about Dayton's previous game.

Good to see Gary Parrish back at work.

Agreed. Horrible situation he and his wife just went through.

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 8 years ago

Four games highlight Wednesday evening A-10 Action:

* Saint Louis at La Salle. 7 PM. La Salle is in the play-in game, but SLU still has a theoretical chance to escape that fate except this road game and the home date against the Bonnies may be a bridge too far for the Billikens..

* Davidson at VCU. 7 PM. On CBS Sports. Davidson looks to have the sixth seed, but facing VCU on the road and GW at home is no gimme!

* Fordham at Duquesne 7 PM. Both schools are desperately trying to stay out of the PIG.

* Saint Joseph's at Saint Bonaventure 7 PM. Both schools are in the double bye category, but SBU needs the win to enhance their resume for an at-large NCAA invite. The game under special sponsorship is being held at the Blue Cross Arena in Rochester, NY.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 8 years ago

Go VCU! (but just tonite)

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

It looks like VCU will win their game, and also the Bonnies have an 11 pt. lead at halftime against St. Joes.

If VCU wins and St. Joes loses, I think that clinches 1st for VCU. They will be 14-3, and the others 13-4.

Twisted, would they lose any tiebreakers in a 3 way with Dayton and the Bonnies, or Dayton and St. Joes, if they lose to Dayton on Saturday?

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 8 years ago

Steph Curry is currently possessing the body of Marcus Posley. It couldn't be happening against a better team.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

VCU took care of Davidson, 70-60. That's one down.

Looks like the Bonnies will take down the Hawk. Of course espn's feed went down as usual with about 2 and half to go....

Update: they did, 98-90.

Helps them toward an at large NCAA berth.

Best result for the A10 there. Maybe 4 will go after all.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 8 years ago

UNH Wildcats over Binghamton...just two W's away from the Dance....

Stop! Rammer Time · Unread post by **Stop! Rammer Time** » 8 years ago

Friars down 6 at the 14:51 mark of the second half to Creighton. Hoping the bluejays can pull this one out.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 8 years ago

Seriously...is there anything creepier than the Friars mascot? It's like Halloween whenever you see that thing....

If you're gonna go for that angle, go all in like Wake Forest...this borderline stuff is just freakish...

Bentil's 3 = game winner

eli#10 · Unread post by **eli#10** » 8 years ago

Another big break for the effin Fairies as Creighton's very good point guard got hurt early in the game and really was a non-factor. You cannot lose your point guard and expect to win on the road in a game like this. He averages 15 a game and got 6 tonight. His speed was limited as he has a groin injury.

STC · Unread post by **STC** » 8 years ago

Anyone see how BC managed to lose last night? Now 0-17 in the ACC.

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 8 years ago

STC wrote:Anyone see how BC managed to lose last night? Now 0-17 in the ACC.

The fact they might go winless in conference in both football and basketball is astounding.

What a joke of an athletic program.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 8 years ago

Couldn't have happened to a more deserving program. Go (down) BC!!

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 8 years ago

Arizona State beat Stanford last night, for those of you who still don't like the Cardinal. It was the 5th conference win for ASU.

It's been quite a year out in Tempe- one player quit after a fight with the coach, two were stopped for possession of marijuana (suspension for one, the other one's gone), a transfer sitting out was suspended and now seems to be gone, another player suspended but now back, a coach arrested for DUI.

There are all kinds of ways to react to challenging seasons. Rhody's doing it right.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 8 years ago

Wow I didn't realize there was so much going on in Bobby's world this year.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 8 years ago

ATPTourFan wrote:Couldn't have happened to a more deserving program. Go (down) BC!!

Speaking of deserving...the CFL elimination party can begin. Our Griff friends' season ended at the hands of Iona tonight. They were 14-19.

Also, I saw Bill Simmons (Holy Cross grad) extend an offer to BC to join the Patriot league. Ha BC is as hilarious at sports as UMass. What a state I live in.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 8 years ago

TruePoint wrote: Speaking of deserving...the CFL elimination party can begin. Our Griff friends' season ended at the hands of Iona tonight. They were 14-19.

I believe he just got an extension as well.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 8 years ago

Yup, three years. Announced on Thursday.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

Losers get extensions at some places. Nice work if you can get it.

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 8 years ago

Final day of the regular season with all fourteen A-10 teams in action and by end of the last game, the seedings and pairing for the A-10 tournament will have been determined with the official announcement coming on Sunday.

* Rhode Island at Fordham. 2 PM. On Cox. We will know if URI is the sixth or seventh seed sometime between 4 PM and 5:30 PM.

* GW at Davidson. 3:30 PM. On NBC Sports.

* Duquesne at Saint Joseph's. 4 PM.

* Richmond at George Mason. 6 PM.

* Saint Bonaventure at Saint Louis. 8 PM.

* VCU at Dayton 8 PM. On CBS Sports.

* La Salle at UMass. 8 PM.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 8 years ago

Dayton v Virginia Commonwealth should be a burner!

UCH21377 · Unread post by **UCH21377** » 8 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:Losers get extensions at some places. Nice work if you can get it.

hey, it's a process!!!

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 8 years ago

With Duquesne's win over St. Joe's we get either them or umass in the first round, St Louis has been eliminated as a potential opponent. We get Duquesne if UMass loses, if UMass wins then it will come down to tiebreakers.

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 8 years ago

duquesne get the 10 seed with a slu loss regardless of umass' result, umass gets the 10 with a win and a slu win

URI2006_Andy · Unread post by **URI2006_Andy** » 8 years ago

twisted3829 wrote:duquesne get the 10 seed with a slu loss regardless of umass' result, umass gets the 10 with a win and a slu win

What's the tie breaker? If its head to head, UMass beat Duquesne. If Stl loses (5-13) and UMass wins (6-12), I think UMass would get the 10 and Duquesne (6-12) the 11.

STC · Unread post by **STC** » 8 years ago

BC clinched a winless in conference record today losing at home to Clemson finishing 0-18 in the ACC. Couple that with Rutgers win over Minnesota today and BC has clinched the title of worst power conference basketball team this year.

BC basketball and football combined to go 0-26 in conference play this year. 10-33 overall.

Jim Christian's incoming recruiting class is less than spectacular. Does Christian get a 3rd year? Can you even trust the BC AD to get this hire right? BC was courting St. Bona HC Mark Schmidt but chose Christian instead.

Will be interesting to see what the future holds over on Chestnut Hill for Brad Bates and Jim Christian.

...credit to Preston Murphy for getting out when he did.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

Well, looks like we get Duquesne and if we were to win that, we get VCU if they lose to Dayton.

Not looking good for more than one win.

Oh well......not all bad. St. Joes slipped back toward the bubble with their loss.

GW fell off the bubble.

A10 gets 3-4 in the Dance, and either 2 or 3 in the NIT, depending on whether 3 or 4 get in the big show.

6 total.

URI2006_Andy · Unread post by **URI2006_Andy** » 8 years ago

If VCU beats Dayton and StB beats Stl, VCU will get the 1 seed (15-3); Stb the 2 seed (14-4); St Joes the 3 seed (13-5 with a win H2H vs Dayton); and Dayton the 4 seed (13-5).

That means we would play Umass / Duquesne, then St Bonn., then St Joes.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

Have to be a VCU fan tonight.

Dayton will have to step up their game to win that. If Pollard still isn't 100%, that's not going to be easy.

URI2006_Andy · Unread post by **URI2006_Andy** » 8 years ago

Agree, I'll be a big VCU fan tonight. Much rather go through STB and STJ than Day or VCU.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

Of course we still have our late game bugaboos to deal with.

Although tonight, I wouldn't blame Dan for any of it, to be honest.

I mean, not counting JT, we shot it at 65% tonight.

The problem was getting shots, not missing them. Too many mistakes toward the end.

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 8 years ago

URI2006_Andy wrote:
twisted3829 wrote:duquesne get the 10 seed with a slu loss regardless of umass' result, umass gets the 10 with a win and a slu win

What's the tie breaker? If its head to head, UMass beat Duquesne. If Stl loses (5-13) and UMass wins (6-12), I think UMass would get the 10 and Duquesne (6-12) the 11.

sorry i flipped the teams

DUQ gets the 10 if solo or 2 way with SLU or 3 way tie with SLU and UMass
UMass gets it if 2 way tie with DUQ

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

Counting on a UMass win is not something I would hang my hat on......

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 8 years ago

In a game just concluded, Yale beat Columbia, 71-55, giving Yale the Ivy League title and their first invite to the Big Dance since 1962! And we thought URI has waited a long time!

Yale is actually the second team in the Dance so far, as Austin Peay beat UT-Martin earlier today to garner the Ohio Valley title and automatic invite.