ramster wrote: ↑6 months ago
Summary of 10 Preseason Polls
2023-2024 Shows a A10 Conference with some wide prediction variation for a number of teams
Loyola Ranges from a high of 2nd (Barttkorvik) to a low of 12th (Rothstein AND A10Talk)
Fordham Ranges from a high of 1st (A10Talk) to a low of 10th (KenPom)
St Louis Ranges from a high of 6th (A10 Coaches and BlueRibbon) to a low of 12th (Lindy"s)
GMU Ranges from a high of 6th (Barttorvik) to a low of 14th (Lindy"s)
George Washington Ranges from a high of 6th (Jablonski) to a low of 15th (KenPom and Barttorvik)
URI is 15th with a 13.2 Average Ranking. Range of High 11th Barttorvik, Almanac and Linduy's) to Low 15th (Rothstein, Bustin Brackets and A10Talk)
The Green Shaded Rankings 1,2,3,4 represent Teams receiving the Double Bye in the A10 Tournament
Don't recall the A10 ever having such ranking variation and volatility to the Rankings and so much roster turnover.
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This is a fancy way to say no one knows shit.
Let me throw out mine then:
Dayton
Duquesne
VCU
Rhode Island
St Bonaventure
St Louis
Richmond
Fordham
Davidson
St Joes
UMass
GW
Loyola
George Mason
La Salle
I guarantee you it'll be as right as any of the other pig slop that's being thrown along the wall.
And for anyone who's saying "HOW CAN YOU RANK URI SO HIGH THATS NOT REALISTIC" I will kindly tell you to shut the fuck up, and that "THERE ARE ADULTS WHO WATCH COLLEGE BASKETBALL THAT ARE PICKING LOYOLA 2ND IN THE A10 AFTER THEY WERE A PRESEASON TOP 60 TEAM LAST YEAR THAT FINISHED OUTSIDE OF THE TOP 300 THEY ARE TERRIBLE."
If you say you’re a Rhody fan, I know you are my brother. For you have suffered as I have suffered.
The love for Loyola is absolutely wild. We were objectively better than they were last year, as low a bar as that was. Finished ahead of them in the A10 and beat them at their place head to head. And we probably had a better offseason than they did, yet people are calling for a bounce back for them and acting like we won't bounce back. And I'd much rather have Archie Miller as head coach than the completely unproven at best Drew Valentine
Take down the Robert Carothers banner and fix the concession stand lines
reef wrote: ↑6 months ago
Agree these preseason predictions are mostly a joke
I guessed 11-7 conf for us so I guess that’s somewhere between 6th and 10th well above the 11-15th the so called experts said
So I put the 10 prediction threads together instead of them being in the thread across a dozen pages so easy to view.
Why don't you give me your top 15 and see where it ends up?
I'll put mine in too as well as BlueMans
He wasn't a transfer, so it seems like that was a generic eligibility clearance issue, since he was coming from overseas. A bunch of schools got news today, so I imagine we're in the queue some time soon for Green.
Not a real surprise but still disappointing for GM.
Haynes was considered one of the top incoming bigs in the A10 (averaged 14.6 pts/ 6.4 rebs last season).
Jersey77 wrote: ↑6 months ago
Not a real surprise but still disappointing for GM.
Haynes was considered one of the top incoming bigs in the A10 (averaged 14.6 pts/ 6.4 rebs last season).
Jersey77 wrote: ↑6 months ago
Not a real surprise but still disappointing for GM.
Haynes was considered one of the top incoming bigs in the A10 (averaged 14.6 pts/ 6.4 rebs last season).
Disappointing for 'them' = 'good' for us
Still do not understand why people think like this.
We want the A10 to get better? The best players need to play, regardless of what team they’re on.
Seen way too many times over the last few years people celebrating other teams losing good/great players for whatever reason.
Jersey77 wrote: ↑6 months ago
Not a real surprise but still disappointing for GM.
Haynes was considered one of the top incoming bigs in the A10 (averaged 14.6 pts/ 6.4 rebs last season).
Disappointing for 'them' = 'good' for us
Still do not understand why people think like this.
We want the A10 to get better? The best players need to play, regardless of what team they’re on.
Seen way too many times over the last few years people celebrating other teams losing good/great players for whatever reason.
This convo, and it's corollary, the "I hope PC loses every single game they play" vs ""I hope PC wins every game they play except against us" are message board staples
Our only competition is the A10. If that guy got approved, singlehandedly beat us in the A10T championship game and we didn't even get an NIT bid, would you be glad his transfer was approved?
Still do not understand why people think like this.
We want the A10 to get better? The best players need to play, regardless of what team they’re on.
Seen way too many times over the last few years people celebrating other teams losing good/great players for whatever reason.
This convo, and it's corollary, the "I hope PC loses every single game they play" vs ""I hope PC wins every game they play except against us" are message board staples
Our only competition is the A10. If that guy got approved, singlehandedly beat us in the A10T championship game and we didn't even get an NIT bid, would you be glad his transfer was approved?
Well NYG, I want all the A10 teams to succeed, after all so many here complain about how weak our conference is.
So yes, I will take every team's best shot and whoever deserves to move forward then so be it.
Still do not understand why people think like this.
We want the A10 to get better? The best players need to play, regardless of what team they’re on.
Seen way too many times over the last few years people celebrating other teams losing good/great players for whatever reason.
This convo, and it's corollary, the "I hope PC loses every single game they play" vs ""I hope PC wins every game they play except against us" are message board staples
Our only competition is the A10. If that guy got approved, singlehandedly beat us in the A10T championship game and we didn't even get an NIT bid, would you be glad his transfer was approved?
Our only competition certainly isn’t just the A10.
We compete with PC for fans, media exposure, social media engagement, attendance, ticket sales, being the best team in the state, etc.
Still do not understand why people think like this.
We want the A10 to get better? The best players need to play, regardless of what team they’re on.
Seen way too many times over the last few years people celebrating other teams losing good/great players for whatever reason.
This convo, and it's corollary, the "I hope PC loses every single game they play" vs ""I hope PC wins every game they play except against us" are message board staples
Our only competition is the A10. If that guy got approved, singlehandedly beat us in the A10T championship game and we didn't even get an NIT bid, would you be glad his transfer was approved?
Our only competition certainly isn’t just the A10.
We compete with PC for fans, media exposure, social media engagement, attendance, ticket sales, being the best team in the state, etc.
Maybe I should should have clarified 'competition'...I was speaking specifically about Rhody's ability to win the A10 AQ - nothing more - in that, the only competition is the A10. If you have better players (in the A10), sometimes that has to mean that other teams (in the A10) will lose out on, or not get players. It happens. Law of nature, that's going to be one of the outcomes. And, if it happens and, because of it, Rhody has one more 'better player' (in the A10) because another (A10) team doesn't get theirs...welp, bummer for them, but... good.
RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑6 months ago
The love for Loyola is absolutely wild. We were objectively better than they were last year, as low a bar as that was. Finished ahead of them in the A10 and beat them at their place head to head. And we probably had a better offseason than they did, yet people are calling for a bounce back for them and acting like we won't bounce back. And I'd much rather have Archie Miller as head coach than the completely unproven at best Drew Valentine
Of the 10 Polls only Barttovik at #2 and KenPom at #3 have Loyola ranked high. KenPom seems to have been preferred by many here at KB for his accuracy.
BlueRibbon, Rothstein and A10Talk all have Loyola Ranked #12
Wide, wide variation.
Roster turnover is huge compared to historical levels making high variation of team preseason rankings and expected performance.
A10 Coaches Rank Loyola #8, average of all 20 is 7.8
Barttovik and KenPom have the explaining to do.
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Of all the A10 games tomorrow Dayton probably has the toughest opponent.
SIUE is picked to finish 2nd in the OVC and has 3 players selected pr.5e-season all-conference.
(G) Ray'Sean Taylor (15.5 pts), (G) Demarco Minor (14.4 pts), and the (F) Wright twins (Shamar 10.6 pts and Lamar 7.7 pts).
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Great measuring stick game right out of the gate for the expected best team in the A10 - imho anyway. Thanks for the heads up, Jersey. Much appreciated. I will be paying attention.
Some people will actually be happy about this because “it makes our path easier.”
“Oh yea if we played them in A10 Final it would help”
Or
“Bye bye Smith bye bye!!”
Or
“Say it ain’t so Anthony Grant! Love seeing him lose”
15, if we win the A10 championship because of this then I will ask the A10 Commish to put a frown face emoji and asterisk next to our school name in the A10 record book for you.
Wow huge loss, he was a pre-season All-A10 selection.
Our conference can't catch a break.
Jersey, if the A10 didn’t have bad luck, then it would have no luck at all. Ooph
Sucky break for Dayton and Smith. And, for coach Grant, too. I figured they would finish 1st in the A10 this season and snag an NCAAT birth (automatic or at-large bid). That’s a tough hill to climb without Smith.
Wow huge loss, he was a pre-season All-A10 selection.
Our conference can't catch a break.
Jersey, if the A10 didn’t have bad luck, then it would have no luck at all. Ooph
Sucky break for Dayton and Smith. And, for coach Grant, too. I figured they would finish 1st in the A10 this season and snag an NCAAT birth (automatic or at-large bid). That’s a tough hill to climb without Smith.
I feel bad for the young man.
Played only a few minutes this season and only 19 games in 22-23 because of injuries.
Hope he is able to come back okay in 24-25.
Jersey77 wrote: ↑6 months ago
Good news for SLU, 7-ft/265 lbs, freshman rim protector from China.
A huge unknown, but hey, seven foot is seven foot! The Post Dispatch did a profile on him. Two other players are listed in that article as contemporaries, but they're both freshmen as well.
Jersey77 wrote: ↑6 months ago
Good news for SLU, 7-ft/265 lbs, freshman rim protector from China.
A huge unknown, but hey, seven foot is seven foot! The Post Dispatch did a profile on him. Two other players are listed in that article as contemporaries, but they're both freshmen as well.
If nothing else he gives them depth in the paint, something they are currently lacking.
They still have 2 other frontcourt players waiting on the NCAA decision.
Jersey77 wrote: ↑6 months ago
Good news for SLU, 7-ft/265 lbs, freshman rim protector from China.
A huge unknown, but hey, seven foot is seven foot! The Post Dispatch did a profile on him. Two other players are listed in that article as contemporaries, but they're both freshmen as well.
“Seven foot is seven foot” reminds me of URI legend Blake Vedder.
After watching our first 2 games I have even more serious doubts about the predictions made about URI for this season and others in the A10 . i
know the competition wasn't the best , but I have to say URI has looked pretty damned awesome . If they can present any reasonable facsimile of the recent performances against a10 opponents then they could probably challenge anybody . the shooting alone has been nothing short of amazing
and in no way resembles the god awful shooting we suffered through last season and has been better than I've seen by any A10 team since Dayton in 2020-21 . I hope they continue to prove everybody wrong who thinks this isn't going to be a good team because they look good to me right now and I
don't care how bad the opposition was , you still have to put the ball in the basket even if the shots aren't hotly contested.
luke wrote: ↑6 months ago
After watching our first 2 games I have even more serious doubts about the predictions made about URI for this season and others in the A10 . i
know the competition wasn't the best , but I have to say URI has looked pretty damned awesome . If they can present any reasonable facsimile of the recent performances against a10 opponents then they could probably challenge anybody . the shooting alone has been nothing short of amazing
and in no way resembles the god awful shooting we suffered through last season and has been better than I've seen by any A10 team since Dayton in 2020-21 . I hope they continue to prove everybody wrong who thinks this isn't going to be a good team because they look good to me right now and I
don't care how bad the opposition was , you still have to put the ball in the basket even if the shots aren't hotly contested.
No doubt about it Luke the 14th place finishes were a joke , I’d be a bit surprised if we don’t finish in the top 10
