2023-24 Rotation

[McRam]

I had some time to kill and I was interested to see what 3 point shooting percentage that the new transfers brought to the table. Collectively, House, Wright, Montgomery, and Kortright shot 36.175% from three last year. That number would place them 71st in the country. That is a hell of a lot better than an our 30.38%, which ranked 333rd last year. Yes, I know it wasn’t all against D1 competition, but still has got to be an improvement. (Brown did not take any threes.)

House and Kortright will probably get the most minutes on the team . What was their three point shooting
percentage ?

[rjv]

.279 and .302

[KevanBoyles]

.279 and .302

Minutes are irrelevant for the point I made. It was not adjusted per minutes played, only total shots.

At this time, it's impossible to project minutes.

[McRam]

.279 and .302

Minutes are irrelevant for the point I made. It was not adjusted per minutes played, only total shots.

At this time, it's impossible to project minutes.

Isn’t it unlikely that we can “project” that we will have a better three point shooting team than last year considering the percentages for the starting backcourt?

[jcru]

.279 and .302

Minutes are irrelevant for the point I made. It was not adjusted per minutes played, only total shots.

At this time, it's impossible to project minutes.

Isn’t it unlikely that we can “project” that we will have a better three point shooting team than last year considering the percentages for the starting backcourt?

22/23 vs 23/24

Bray vs Wright = upgrade 3pt %

Leggett vs House = advantage Leggett 3pt %

Carey vs Kortright = upgrade 3pt %

Martin vs Montgomery = upgrade 3pt %

Weston vs Weston = ?

nobody vs Dubsky = upgrade at 3pt %

Thomas vs Estevez = upgrade at 3pt %

Stewart vs Stewart = ?

[steveystuds06]

Minutes are irrelevant for the point I made. It was not adjusted per minutes played, only total shots.

At this time, it's impossible to project minutes.

Isn’t it unlikely that we can “project” that we will have a better three point shooting team than last year considering the percentages for the starting backcourt?

22/23 vs 23/24

Bray vs Wright = upgrade 3pt %

Leggett vs House = advantage Leggett 3pt %

Carey vs Kortright = upgrade 3pt %

Martin vs Montgomery = upgrade 3pt %

Weston vs Weston = ?

nobody vs Dubsky = upgrade at 3pt %

Thomas vs Estevez = upgrade at 3pt %

Stewart vs Stewart = ?

Great post… and if Green is eligible he may be one of the best shooters on the team based on his 35% and attempts.

Obviously we don’t know how everyone will shoot next year but on paper we without question have a better shooting team top to bottom.

[bigappleram]

Opening night starters IMO:

Kortright
House
Weston
Montgomery
Brown

Foumena
Rory
Green
Estevez
Dubsky

Brown doesn’t seem capable to play the 4 so due to experience and early season coaching tendencies im giving Brown the nod at the 5. That moves Montgomery to a small ball 4.

[Backroads]

I realize Always is a wild card but I’d put Cam ahead of Green especially not knowing his eligibility

[Jersey77]

Opening night starters IMO:

Kortright
House
Weston
Montgomery
Brown

Foumena
Rory
Green
Estevez
Dubsky

Brown doesn’t seem capable to play the 4 so due to experience and early season coaching tendencies im giving Brown the nod at the 5. That moves Montgomery to a small ball 4.

BAR, I agree with your staring 5 as of now.
You left Always out, subbing for Luis at PG.
Green I would leave out for now unless he is granted a waiver.

That small line-up will be a concern though, because Brown and Foumena need to hold down the paint with no Div. 1 experience.
But that is the situation we are currently in.

[Rhody72]

I have no idea who will start and I'm not high on any of the new players. That said, I would guess Weston will start. The rest is a crap shoot. These guys playing against each other in practice will tell us who will start but will not tell us how good they will be. I hoping for good development throughout the season.

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“Who are these guys…….”

[bigappleram]

Opening night starters IMO:

Kortright
House
Weston
Montgomery
Brown

Foumena
Rory
Green
Estevez
Dubsky

Brown doesn’t seem capable to play the 4 so due to experience and early season coaching tendencies im giving Brown the nod at the 5. That moves Montgomery to a small ball 4.

BAR, I agree with your staring 5 as of now.
You left Always out, subbing for Luis at PG.
Green I would leave out for now unless he is granted a waiver.

That small line-up will be a concern though, because Brown and Foumena need to hold down the paint with no Div. 1 experience.
But that is the situation we are currently in.

Yes my bad. Throw Always in that bench contingent battling Cam for backup PG. The whole thing is a crap shoot but for Game 1 I’m going with guys that are battle tested beyond high school ball. Foumena is a pretty major wild card given his size; but I have zero clue how impactful he can or cannot be. I’m making the assumption they think they can clear Green bc why take him if not. While it’s a small ball team it goes 6’3, 6’4, 6’5, 6’6 and 6’9. A much bigger team across the board than we rolled out to end last year.

[jcru]

Long gone is 1998 and three guards and Josh King dividing up the 120 mins for the 1, 2, and 3 spots per game, to a distribution of something like:

Wheeler 35 mins
Mobley 33 mins
Murphy 31 mins
and King 21 mins

And if you looked at the box score of each game, there was very little fluctuation there, of the distribution of those mins, +/- like 2-3 mins each.

The game has changed dramatically since then. Now you have at least 6 players dividing up that amount of minutes. Everyone wants to start, but actually starting is contingent on their recent performance out there.

People who start the first game of the season may not be the same people starting the middle of the season, nor the end of the season. If you are given a starting job, it's basically yours to lose. You start under performing, and the player behind you chomping at the bit to play is having break out games with his playing time, that could easily flip flop. We saw it last year. You get yourself into Archie's doghouse, you hand someone else a golden opportunity.

If I had to guess, the only two players who have guaranteed starting jobs to start the season are probably House and Brown. After that, literally any combination is possible.

[NYGFan_Section208]

“Who are these guys…….”

nohehoh's

[steveystuds06]

https://www.providencejournal.com/story ... 215176007/

[steveystuds06]

Opening night starters IMO:

Kortright
House
Weston
Montgomery
Brown

Foumena
Rory
Green
Estevez
Dubsky

Brown doesn’t seem capable to play the 4 so due to experience and early season coaching tendencies im giving Brown the nod at the 5. That moves Montgomery to a small ball 4.

BAR, I agree with your staring 5 as of now.
You left Always out, subbing for Luis at PG.
Green I would leave out for now unless he is granted a waiver.

That small line-up will be a concern though, because Brown and Foumena need to hold down the paint with no Div. 1 experience.
But that is the situation we are currently in.

Similar to BIlau, Brown made a nice impact at the juco level. In fact, Brown made a better impact than BIlau. I worry about how he adjusts on the offensive end at this level, but I'm confident he will be able to rebound and defend better than any of our bigs last year. He's a strong physical player that won't be intimated like our frontcourt looked last year.

Bar, I agree with that starting lineup. You have to find a way to start Zek and Weston as they are both too talented to be a bench player with this current roster. That starting 5 will want to RUN. You have multiple guys that can finish well and attack the rim. My guess is we will struggle in the half-court and be our best on the fast break.

If I had to guess, I would think Always is above Cam and Connor in the guard rotation, but that's a total guess. Out of Connor and Cam, I would guess Cam is more ready.

Foumena was and still is my favorite big man we picked up last year. I'm assuming we will have to deal with some growing pains from him playing in real action for the first time, but as he plays more, I think you'll see him keep improving. Especially on the offensive end, as he has a lot of talent on that end of the floor. I hope he has a role and we have some designed plays for him. I don't want him wandering like Weston was in many games. I disagreed with Archie's role for Weston last year. I expect Weston to make a nice jump on the offensive end this season.

I would be very surprised if Green weren't eligible. This team needs his size and ability to shoot, so I think he will be a nice piece off the bench. The same goes for Rory. We saw a very confident shooter late in the year. I hope he worked on his speed and strength this offseason because if he can hold his own on the defensive end, he's an asset when his shot is falling.

[Rhody15]

Just a complete guess here, but my gut says Foumena starts over Brown at the beginning of the year.

Foumena has a year under his belt practicing against D1 players and under Archie's system.

Might take a bit for Brown to adjust.

[KevanBoyles]

Just a complete guess here, but my gut says Foumena starts over Brown at the beginning of the year.

Foumena has a year under his belt practicing against D1 players and under Archie's system.

Might take a bit for Brown to adjust.

Brown might be the starting 4.

[jcru]

Hopefully Foumena is the type that likes to rebound. Because we had at least three big men last year who were allergic to it. Two of them gone now.

I admit, I would probably be more impressed with Foumena's one year of practicing at the Div 1 level, if it were one year practicing with the defending Conference Champions, and not practicing with a bunch of guys who did squatola and couldn't get out of their own way. Hopefully those practices didn't teach him a bunch of bad habits.

We'll see what kind of habits some of the new guys bring to the table.

[steveystuds06]

Hopefully Foumena is the type that likes to rebound. Because we had at least three big men last year who were allergic to it. Two of them gone now.

I admit, I would probably be more impressed with Foumena's one year of practicing at the Div 1 level, if it were one year practicing with the defending Conference Champions, and not practicing with a bunch of guys who did squatola and couldn't get out of their own way. Hopefully those practices didn't teach him a bunch of bad habits.

We'll see what kind of habits some of the new guys bring to the table.

Honestly, he's a little flat-footed. He doesn't have great lift when going after the boards. But he battles and battles. He's one of those players that goes all out every minute he's on the floor. I think Rhody fans are going to love him.

[reef]

I’d be quite shocked if Tyson isn’t starting

[RamStock]

Isn’t it unlikely that we can “project” that we will have a better three point shooting team than last year considering the percentages for the starting backcourt?

22/23 vs 23/24

Bray vs Wright = upgrade 3pt %

Leggett vs House = advantage Leggett 3pt %

Carey vs Kortright = upgrade 3pt %

Martin vs Montgomery = upgrade 3pt %

Weston vs Weston = ?

nobody vs Dubsky = upgrade at 3pt %

Thomas vs Estevez = upgrade at 3pt %

Stewart vs Stewart = ?

Great post… and if Green is eligible he may be one of the best shooters on the team based on his 35% and attempts.

Obviously we don’t know how everyone will shoot next year but on paper we without question have a better shooting team top to bottom.

He made 7 three point shots last year out of 20. Not exactly a huge sample size. If he is one of the best shooters on this team we are in trouble. He did very little in a much smaller conference.

[Blue Man]

I've got a feeling we'll see a transfer led starting lineup.

Kortright
House
Montgomery
Green
Brown

I think Estevez will turn heads, Rory will definitely get minutes if not start at the 4, Foumena will be at the 5, Right will be backing up the PG, Weston will back up that 3 spot, and Dubsky will figure in as a shooting threat in spots.

[steveystuds06]

22/23 vs 23/24

Bray vs Wright = upgrade 3pt %

Leggett vs House = advantage Leggett 3pt %

Carey vs Kortright = upgrade 3pt %

Martin vs Montgomery = upgrade 3pt %

Weston vs Weston = ?

nobody vs Dubsky = upgrade at 3pt %

Thomas vs Estevez = upgrade at 3pt %

Stewart vs Stewart = ?

Great post… and if Green is eligible he may be one of the best shooters on the team based on his 35% and attempts.

Obviously we don’t know how everyone will shoot next year but on paper we without question have a better shooting team top to bottom.

He made 7 three point shots last year out of 20. Not exactly a huge sample size. If he is one of the best shooters on this team we are in trouble. He did very little in a much smaller conference.

He played 32 games the year before and averaged 16 MPG. He attempted 3.1 3s per game. He shot 34.6% from 3. 37/107

Last year his numbers were basically the same. 16 MPG. attempted 3.3 3s per game. He shot 35% from 3. 7/20

You look at his per 40 minutes, and he's attempting over 8 3s per game. That's a lot...

Overall that's 44/127

That's certainly not a small sample size to me. I think it's safe to say that we should expect him to be close to a 35% 3 pt shooter. That would have led our team last year unless you want to count Bilau, who was 3/6 last year and shot 50%

If he's shooting 3-5 attempts per game and is hitting them at 35% I don't think we are in trouble at all. That will be a good thing...

[steveystuds06]

I've got a feeling we'll see a transfer led starting lineup.

Kortright
House
Montgomery
Green
Brown

I think Estevez will turn heads, Rory will definitely get minutes if not start at the 4, Foumena will be at the 5, Right will be backing up the PG, Weston will back up that 3 spot, and Dubsky will figure in as a shooting threat in spots.

Cam is a stud. He's gonna be good one.

[RamStock]

Great post… and if Green is eligible he may be one of the best shooters on the team based on his 35% and attempts.

Obviously we don’t know how everyone will shoot next year but on paper we without question have a better shooting team top to bottom.

He made 7 three point shots last year out of 20. Not exactly a huge sample size. If he is one of the best shooters on this team we are in trouble. He did very little in a much smaller conference.

He played 32 games the year before and averaged 16 MPG. He attempted 3.1 3s per game. He shot 34.6% from 3. 37/107

Last year his numbers were basically the same. 16 MPG. attempted 3.3 3s per game. He shot 35% from 3. 7/20

You look at his per 40 minutes, and he's attempting over 8 3s per game. That's a lot...

Overall that's 44/127

That's certainly not a small sample size to me. I think it's safe to say that we should expect him to be close to a 35% 3 pt shooter. That would have led our team last year unless you want to count Bilau, who was 3/6 last year and shot 50%

If he's shooting 3-5 attempts per game and is hitting them at 35% I don't think we are in trouble at all. That will be a good thing...

He has also played 10, 16 and 16 minutes per game a game in his three years of playing at a lower level. Why would he not get more minutes on some pretty bad teams? I just see a guy like Montgomery as someone whose game will continue to grow much more than Green.

[Billyboy78]

I've never seen any of these guys play so I can only go by what I see on tape. I think the best player on the team will be Zek and would predict that he'd be the leading scorer.

[steveystuds06]

He made 7 three point shots last year out of 20. Not exactly a huge sample size. If he is one of the best shooters on this team we are in trouble. He did very little in a much smaller conference.

He played 32 games the year before and averaged 16 MPG. He attempted 3.1 3s per game. He shot 34.6% from 3. 37/107

Last year his numbers were basically the same. 16 MPG. attempted 3.3 3s per game. He shot 35% from 3. 7/20

You look at his per 40 minutes, and he's attempting over 8 3s per game. That's a lot...

Overall that's 44/127

That's certainly not a small sample size to me. I think it's safe to say that we should expect him to be close to a 35% 3 pt shooter. That would have led our team last year unless you want to count Bilau, who was 3/6 last year and shot 50%

If he's shooting 3-5 attempts per game and is hitting them at 35% I don't think we are in trouble at all. That will be a good thing...

He has also played 10, 16 and 16 minutes per game a game in his three years of playing at a lower level. Why would he not get more minutes on some pretty bad teams? I just see a guy like Montgomery as someone whose game will continue to grow much more than Green.

The discussion was about if we are a better shooting team. I didn't say Green would be one of our best players; I said he might be one of our best 3 pt shooters. I provided you with the numbers to back that up. For example, DJ Johnson was one of our best 3 pt shooters a few years ago. He played about 15 minutes a game. Randomly he would get hot and hit a few 3s. I see no reason why Green can't be a player like that for us.

I don't think anyone thinks Green is better than Zek. I certainly don't. Zek is already a better player and has a ton of upside.

[steveystuds06]

I've never seen any of these guys play so I can only go by what I see on tape. I think the best player on the team will be Zek and would predict that he'd be the leading scorer.

I think Zek will definitely be our most efficient player but my guess is House will lead the team in scoring.

[Dino611]

House probably has the fastest first step we’ve seen since fatts

[RamStock]

He played 32 games the year before and averaged 16 MPG. He attempted 3.1 3s per game. He shot 34.6% from 3. 37/107

Last year his numbers were basically the same. 16 MPG. attempted 3.3 3s per game. He shot 35% from 3. 7/20

You look at his per 40 minutes, and he's attempting over 8 3s per game. That's a lot...

Overall that's 44/127

That's certainly not a small sample size to me. I think it's safe to say that we should expect him to be close to a 35% 3 pt shooter. That would have led our team last year unless you want to count Bilau, who was 3/6 last year and shot 50%

If he's shooting 3-5 attempts per game and is hitting them at 35% I don't think we are in trouble at all. That will be a good thing...

He has also played 10, 16 and 16 minutes per game a game in his three years of playing at a lower level. Why would he not get more minutes on some pretty bad teams? I just see a guy like Montgomery as someone whose game will continue to grow much more than Green.

The discussion was about if we are a better shooting team. I didn't say Green would be one of our best players; I said he might be one of our best 3 pt shooters. I provided you with the numbers to back that up. For example, DJ Johnson was one of our best 3 pt shooters a few years ago. He played about 15 minutes a game. Randomly he would get hot and hit a few 3s. I see no reason why Green can't be a player like that for us.

I don't think anyone thinks Green is better than Zek. I certainly don't. Zek is already a better player and has a ton of upside.

That is flat out scary for next years success. We need players who will actually be on the floor to take a step up. Green will be a 10-12 minute a night guy if some of the better players produce. I’m definitely not excited for another DJ Johnson. That is fine if you think all Green is doing is shooting 3’s at a limited clip and could lead the team. You might be right, but not an exciting sign.

[steveystuds06]

He has also played 10, 16 and 16 minutes per game a game in his three years of playing at a lower level. Why would he not get more minutes on some pretty bad teams? I just see a guy like Montgomery as someone whose game will continue to grow much more than Green.

The discussion was about if we are a better shooting team. I didn't say Green would be one of our best players; I said he might be one of our best 3 pt shooters. I provided you with the numbers to back that up. For example, DJ Johnson was one of our best 3 pt shooters a few years ago. He played about 15 minutes a game. Randomly he would get hot and hit a few 3s. I see no reason why Green can't be a player like that for us.

I don't think anyone thinks Green is better than Zek. I certainly don't. Zek is already a better player and has a ton of upside.

That is flat out scary for next years success. We need players who will actually be on the floor to take a step up. Green will be a 10-12 minute a night guy if some of the better players produce. I’m definitely not excited for another DJ Johnson. That is fine if you think all Green is doing is shooting 3’s at a limited clip and could lead the team. You might be right, but not an exciting sign.

Ya, I don't see Green as anything more than a bench piece that will get hot in some games. I think he's better than DJ but that's not saying much. But who knows we have a lot of new faces and sometimes guys make a jump. We'll see what happens.

[Jersey77]

I've got a feeling we'll see a transfer led starting lineup.

Kortright
House
Montgomery
Green
Brown

I think Estevez will turn heads, Rory will definitely get minutes if not start at the 4, Foumena will be at the 5, Right will be backing up the PG, Weston will back up that 3 spot, and Dubsky will figure in as a shooting threat in spots.

Blue Man, I don't know about Green.
In his 3 years he only started 10 games at basketball bluebloods Hofstra and La. Tech.

Still too many unanswered questions about him.
First is eligibility, can he even qualify for a waiver according to the new rules?
What was the extent of his injuries last season and only played 7 games?
Also, what were the circumstances that he was removed from the roster prior to the end of last season?

Yeah his 35% (3 PT) shooting would be a bonus, so we will see.

I still think we have a hole at the 4 that I hope we can fill.

[Blue Man]

I've got a feeling we'll see a transfer led starting lineup.

Kortright
House
Montgomery
Green
Brown

I think Estevez will turn heads, Rory will definitely get minutes if not start at the 4, Foumena will be at the 5, Right will be backing up the PG, Weston will back up that 3 spot, and Dubsky will figure in as a shooting threat in spots.

Blue Man, I don't know about Green.
In his 3 years he only started 10 games at basketball bluebloods Hofstra and La. Tech.

Still too many unanswered questions about him.
First is eligibility, can he even qualify for a waiver according to the new rules?
What was the extent of his injuries last season and only played 7 games?
Also, what were the circumstances that he was removed the roster prior to the end of last season?

Yeah his 35% (3 PT) shooting would be a bonus, so we will see.

I still think we have a hole at the 4 that I hope we can fill.

I don't think we're done. If you ever ask Archie - the roster is never finalized until the ball is tipped.

[Jersey77]

I've got a feeling we'll see a transfer led starting lineup.

Kortright
House
Montgomery
Green
Brown

I think Estevez will turn heads, Rory will definitely get minutes if not start at the 4, Foumena will be at the 5, Right will be backing up the PG, Weston will back up that 3 spot, and Dubsky will figure in as a shooting threat in spots.

Blue Man, I don't know about Green.
In his 3 years he only started 10 games at basketball bluebloods Hofstra and La. Tech.

Still too many unanswered questions about him.
First is eligibility, can he even qualify for a waiver according to the new rules?
What was the extent of his injuries last season and only played 7 games?
Also, what were the circumstances that he was removed from the roster prior to the end of last season?

Yeah his 35% (3 PT) shooting would be a bonus, so we will see.

I still think we have a hole at the 4 that I hope we can fill.

I don't think we're done. If you ever ask Archie - the roster is never finalized until the ball is tipped.

Yeah, I am not that concerned yet.
Plenty of schools have many more spots to fill than us.

[Dino611]

Blue Man, I don't know about Green.
In his 3 years he only started 10 games at basketball bluebloods Hofstra and La. Tech.

Still too many unanswered questions about him.
First is eligibility, can he even qualify for a waiver according to the new rules?
What was the extent of his injuries last season and only played 7 games?
Also, what were the circumstances that he was removed from the roster prior to the end of last season?

Yeah his 35% (3 PT) shooting would be a bonus, so we will see.

I still think we have a hole at the 4 that I hope we can fill.

I don't think we're done. If you ever ask Archie - the roster is never finalized until the ball is tipped.

Yeah, I am not that concerned yet.
Plenty of schools have many more spots to fill than us.

Yeah I think our final spot will go to another stretch 4 who will be better than green

[The Dude]

Starters:
Whoever Archie feels are the top players at their respective positions.

[NHRamFan]

Starters:
Whoever Archie feels are the top players at their respective positions.

Obviously, the Dude abides.

[sevegny7]

[bigappleram]

That was Ram on Ram crime

[Rhodymob05]

Definitely looking forward to Foumen the dream in Keaney.

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Definitely looking forward to Foumen the dream in Keaney.

OK, maybe. Who’s the competition in the video? Many power to the hoop, and some footwork I like. Coming around with him a bit, but will temper the ga-ga for now.

[Iggy1979]

He's playing against his teammates.

[RAM67]

Didn't you see him blow past Rory a few times?

[Jdrums#3]

Compelling video. I didn’t see much lift from Foumena - as SteveyS had indicated in a post somewhere on the board recently - but, I liked his touch around the basket and how he used his body around the basket.

Looking forward to watching him play in real games to see how he does.

[jcru]

Yeah, Stevey's scouting report was right on the money: no lift. 8-10 inch vertical. It's just that with his reach and height, 8-10 inch vertical is more than enough to get over the basket and block shots.

Kind of an intriguing player. I'm guessing if he is on the floor the same time at Brown, he's actually the 4, with his offense, otherwise the 5.

[jcru]

in any case, whatever the coaches were seeing in Foumena, it was more than enough to make Alex T expendable.

I'm wondering if "not-skying" is something Foumena uses to his advantage. Sometimes when players that big sky around the basket, they sky themselves right out of the play.

I'm getting some Big Ed Brown vibes here. Just 2.0, who can run the floor as well without getting gassed

[KingstonLane]

Did we ever get an explanation on why Foumena redshirted last year? Seemed odd given his play in the scrimmage relative to the other bigs.

[McRam]

in any case, whatever the coaches were seeing in Foumena, it was more than enough to make Alex T expendable.

I'm wondering if "not-skying" is something Foumena uses to his advantage. Sometimes when players that big sky around the basket, they sky themselves right out of the play.

I'm getting some Big Ed Brown vibes here. Just 2.0, who can run the floor as well without getting gassed

Every time someone mentions "not-skying" I think of Jermaine Harris. I'm working on thinking of Don Nelson.!

[PeterRamTime]

Did we ever get an explanation on why Foumena redshirted last year? Seemed odd given his play in the scrimmage relative to the other bigs.

Not really

At URI we aren't allowed to know any inside info ever about any athletic program even though it's very normal for almost every program in America to know why a player redshirted.