URI 2023 Transfers - Who Will Stay and Who Will Go?

[rhodylaw]

I have to completely disagree with this statement . and I believe it is very unfair to Carey . If you go through the box scores you will find Carey had double digit games in most of the wins and some close losses . Your memory is a bit short . Carey had 18 points twice against Lasalle in a win and an overtime loss . he had many double digit point games that kept games close or led to the few victories they had. There is no reason not to give Carey his due . He certainly impacted many games positively . Jalen did have some ball control issues , but I would say that he was a player who could get his own shot which was rare on the team this season , and overall was a positive force on an offensively challenged team . If he returned for another season I for one would welcome it , though It seems unlikely . It won't be that easy to replace him with a better option .

Completely agree. The problem last year was not Carey, Bassy or Malik individually. All three individually could be a piece on a good team but together they do not move the needle. Carey was the best of that group and I would welcome him back.

[steveystuds06]

Jalen Carey turns 24 in October- at this point, he is what he is, a player who could never really put it together. A player, who has never really impacted any game(that I can recall)

He's never impacted a game? I'm not trying to be an asshole here, but did you actually watch any of the games this year? He had some great games on the offensive end and was a monster on the boards for a guard. Carey had a decent senior year.

[Rhody15]

Jalen Carey turns 24 in October- at this point, he is what he is, a player who could never really put it together. A player, who has never really impacted any game(that I can recall)

People criticize Carey more than they did Jermaine Harris.

What world are we living in?

[Rhody15]

Jalen Carey turns 24 in October- at this point, he is what he is, a player who could never really put it together. A player, who has never really impacted any game(that I can recall)

He's never impacted a game? I'm not trying to be an asshole here, but did you actually watch any of the games this year? He had some great games on the offensive end and was a monster on the boards for a guard. Carey had a decent senior year.

Had to do a double take to make sure I didn’t write the first two sentences. Nice work! It’s fun being a little brash isn’t it?!

[reef]

I was a big Carey fan but still don’t want him back next season

[RIFan]

Carey is one of the players that I do or do not want back depending on who we get to replace him. Most of the team I don’t care if they leave, in fact I would prefer they leave. Carey wasn’t our biggest problem, the biggest problem was that we had such a lack of talent we had to rely on him for more than he is capable of. He would be a great energy guy off the bench on a good team, playing 12-15 min a game.

[RamStock]

Jalen Carey turns 24 in October- at this point, he is what he is, a player who could never really put it together. A player, who has never really impacted any game(that I can recall)

He's never impacted a game? I'm not trying to be an asshole here, but did you actually watch any of the games this year? He had some great games on the offensive end and was a monster on the boards for a guard. Carey had a decent senior year.

Had to do a double take to make sure I didn’t write the first two sentences. Nice work! It’s fun being a little brash isn’t it?!

So people can’t have an opinion like you did with Jermaine Harris his whole time here? No one attacked Carey like you did with Jermaine, but quite frankly Carey has been on all losing teams and would take the minutes of another player that could develop an get this team back on track. Carey was a top 50 recruit at Syracuse that didn’t play up to that level. Was he the problem on last year’s team? No, but he isn’t the solution to getting a new group of players in and getting to hopefully the goal of making the tourney. Anyone see Carey as a starter on a tourney team?

[rhodyblue12]

I admit, Carey scared me to death last year whenever he had the ball - and he had the ball a lot out of necessity.
He should have been playing the wing and not running the offense.
If he had been in a role more suited to his skill set, most here would not have a problem with his game.

He can create his own shot and he can rebound well for a guard. We have so many holes, he may be a good bridge player.
No problem if he is back as a 6-7th man playing the wing. If he wants to start at PG, please let it be at another school.

[DeanDome88]

I have to completely disagree with this statement . and I believe it is very unfair to Carey . If you go through the box scores you will find Carey had double digit games in most of the wins and some close losses . Your memory is a bit short . Carey had 18 points twice against Lasalle in a win and an overtime loss . he had many double digit point games that kept games close or led to the few victories they had. There is no reason not to give Carey his due . He certainly impacted many games positively . Jalen did have some ball control issues , but I would say that he was a player who could get his own shot which was rare on the team this season , and overall was a positive force on an offensively challenged team . If he returned for another season I for one would welcome it , though It seems unlikely . It won't be that easy to replace him with a better option .

I expect we need a couple of grad students on the roster to balance the classes a little bit as well.

[jcru]

People criticize Carey more than they did Jermaine Harris.

What world are we living in?

No one ever criticized any player on here the way you single handedly, relentlessly ripped Jermaine Harris daily. That is a record you will hold on this site, until the site no longer exists. No one told you or coerced you into doing it either, that was all you. The people on here couldn't have stopped you if they wanted to.

Maybe it seems to you, personally, that the criticism is worse for Carey, but that's merely because there are a lot more people who voice similar observations on Carey. I would say, individually they are mild compared to what you did. Most people on here wish Carey well, he never did live up to the Top 50, 4 star rating, that's not a sin, but Syracuse cut bait with him quickly, we did not. More power to him.

I have nothing against Carey as a person, I just think for this team to move forward, even if they would not win as many games without Carey, Archie needs to transition this team to a team with his own players. I want that to happen with the hopes that he will choose very good players that fit his style, but the other side of that coin is that once he gets his own players, he will be judged fairly on how they perform, succeed, or otherwise.

[jcru]

I think a good analogy for Carey, for those old enough to think back and remember, would be the Patriots' Irving Fryar. Number one pick in the draft, some definite flaws, despite being very talented, but the first thing Parcells did when he took over a Dick McPherson 1-15 team was let Fryar go.

You can't create a new culture if you have players who were part of the old culture hanging around indefinitely, and that was the message there with Parcells and Fryar.

If Archie is successful here, at some point in the not too distant future, no part of this team will resemble the team he took over, in any aspect.

The same exact way Tammi's team has nothing in common with the team her predecessor had.

[McRam]

Jcru, another analogy could be, Parcells got rid of Fryer, but kept other players from the previous team

Same with Archie, he got rid of Samb but kept Carey From the previous team.

[McRam]

Jcru, another analogy could be, Parcells got rid of Fryer, but kept other players from the previous team

Same with Archie, he got rid of Samb but kept Carey From the previous team.

Eg. Two things can be true at the same time, change the roster and culture and keep some players from the previous team.

[SandorClegane]

Do we think we’ve seen everybody hit the portal that will potentially hit the portal on the team? Seems like there’s a flurry of activity after year end meetings. Curious to see if we’re done here.

[Billyboy78]

Do we think we’ve seen everybody hit the portal that will potentially hit the portal on the team? Seems like there’s a flurry of activity after year end meetings. Curious to see if we’re done here.

The ones still here are probably waiting to see who we've got coming in and how it affects them, whether it be in a positive (making us much better) or negative (affects their playing time) way.

[jcru]

Jcru, another analogy could be, Parcells got rid of Fryer, but kept other players from the previous team

Same with Archie, he got rid of Samb but kept Carey From the previous team.

He kept them both. Just recently, Samb entered the portal after participating all season. Carey is meant to leave because they have been talking about him leaving since last year, and the plans have not seemed to change.

[Iggy1979]

The staff put in a lot of time with the freshmen and haven't given up on them. The plan is to build around them.

[Billyboy78]

The staff put in a lot of time with the freshmen and haven't given up on them. The plan is to build around them.

How do they feel about Foumena, Iggy?

[Iggy1979]

Definitely has potential to be the best among last year's haul.

[reef]

Do we think we’ve seen everybody hit the portal that will potentially hit the portal on the team? Seems like there’s a flurry of activity after year end meetings. Curious to see if we’re done here.

I will guess @ least 1 more hits portal

[Iggy1979]

I think fans will be surprised by Foumena's outside shooting.

[section(105)]

I think fans will be surprised by Foumena's outside shooting.

Well OK, is that what we want out of our big men room? Just asking.

[SmartyBarrett]

I think fans will be surprised by Foumena's outside shooting.

Well OK, is that what we want out of our big men room? Just asking.

Yes. Any time. Always.

[Billyboy78]

I think fans will be surprised by Foumena's outside shooting.

I watched him shoot in a few of the pre-games this year. Yes, I know that means nothing but he has a pretty nice stroke.

[Billyboy78]

I think fans will be surprised by Foumena's outside shooting.

Well OK, is that what we want out of our big men room? Just asking.

In today's game, yes......along with other things, obviously.

[section(105)]

I think fans will be surprised by Foumena's outside shooting.

Well OK, is that what we want out of our big men room? Just asking.

In today's game, yes......along with other things, obviously.

OK sure, in the global word of todays game, agree. However, I think URI hoops lives in a subset of todays game, where solid post play is a pre-requisite over burping up threes. Just me.

[Billyboy78]

Well OK, is that what we want out of our big men room? Just asking.

In today's game, yes......along with other things, obviously.

OK sure, in the global word of todays game, agree. However, I think URI hoops lives in a subset of todays game, where solid post play is a pre-requisite over burping up threes. Just me.

What I want out of our bigs is to defend and rebound. Any offense they can give us is gravy.

[jcru]

OK sure, in the global word of todays game, agree. However, I think URI hoops lives in a subset of todays game, where solid post play is a pre-requisite over burping up threes. Just me.

I 2nd that emotion.

[jcru]

When we are up 13, and I see our big man go to the top of the key and, most of the time in actual game situations, clunk it, I think "er, ok, I guess that was alright"

When we are down 10 and trying to claw our way back, and I see our big man go to the top of the key and, most of the time in actual game situations, clunk it, I think "ARRRRFGGGHHH!!^@(@#&$^*@^@%@@%!!!!" UCKER"

[section(105)]

Just me again, I have seen enough of our “bigs” taking ill-advised threes as part of the offense. Recent Harris, throw in a Mitchell or two. Is that what Archie’s offense is about?

[Rhody15]

Just me again, I have seen enough of our “bigs” taking ill-advised threes as part of the offense. Recent Harris, throw in a Mitchell or two. Is that what Archie’s offense is about?

If you think big men taking threes is some crazy new part of the game, I don’t know what to tell ya.

Pretty sure Archie isn’t going to tolerate bad shots, evident this year with the short leash on Freeman.

We had Rory and Bilau taking them this season.

[section(105)]

Just me again, I have seen enough of our “bigs” taking ill-advised threes as part of the offense. Recent Harris, throw in a Mitchell or two. Is that what Archie’s offense is about?

If you think big men taking threes is some crazy new part of the game, I don’t know what to tell ya.

Pretty sure Archie isn’t going to tolerate bad shots, evident this year with the short leash on Freeman.

We had Rory and Bilau taking them this season.

I neva said it was it was some crazy part of the game, but in the neighborhood where we play a more grounded, a more sold post play is needed. If our bigs can play that and shoot threes, those players would not be in our conference.

[PeterRamTime]

Just me again, I have seen enough of our “bigs” taking ill-advised threes as part of the offense. Recent Harris, throw in a Mitchell or two. Is that what Archie’s offense is about?

If you think big men taking threes is some crazy new part of the game, I don’t know what to tell ya.

Pretty sure Archie isn’t going to tolerate bad shots, evident this year with the short leash on Freeman.

We had Rory and Bilau taking them this season.

I neva said it was it was some crazy part of the game, but in the neighborhood where we play a more grounded, a more sold post play is needed. If our bigs can play that and shoot threes, those players would not be in our conference.

Lol Bilau was 50% from three

I just don't get why you would find it concerning to hear that we might he surprised that Foumena can shoot.

There's nothing that says he can't be good at both.

Like Bilau made jump shots when the defense gave him opportunities. The rest of the time he was playing down low.

[rhodyrudder]

Pretty sure Archie isn’t going to tolerate bad shots,

Sure seemed to tolerate em more than I would, going 10+ minutes with zero points and no timeouts.
There’s guys who are gonna play at the next level, and then there’s the kinda bigs we need in kingston.
I don’t ever like our bigs chucking up shots from deep, I don’t even really want em leaving the paint to set screens.

But I guess that’s why I pay his salary and not vice versa.

Hopefully the offense improves some over what they did this year.

Not sure how long I keep coming if there aren’t signs of improvement.

[bigappleram]

The modern game is about space. Nothing creates more space than a big you have to cover out to 15-20 feet. People talk like we have had some long line of back to the basket offensive bigs. We’ve had like 2 in 40 years.

[section(105)]

If you think big men taking threes is some crazy new part of the game, I don’t know what to tell ya.

Pretty sure Archie isn’t going to tolerate bad shots, evident this year with the short leash on Freeman.

We had Rory and Bilau taking them this season.

I neva said it was it was some crazy part of the game, but in the neighborhood where we play a more grounded, a more sold post play is needed. If our bigs can play that and shoot threes, those players would not be in our conference.

Lol Bilau was 50% from three

I just don't get why you would find it concerning to hear that we might he surprised that Foumena can shoot.

There's nothing that says he can't be good at both.

Like Bilau made jump shots when the defense gave him opportunities. The rest of the time he was playing down low.

OK, I guess we will see. Let’s check in back to this next season at some point.

[RhodyRams916]

I hope the first domino falls this week...

[JimSidd]

The modern game is about space. Nothing creates more space than a big you have to cover out to 15-20 feet. People talk like we have had some long line of back to the basket offensive bigs. We’ve had like 2 in 40 years.

100% agree with this. For an extreme example, look at what happened with Purdue’s Edey against FDU. They took advantage of him in the pick and roll game. The guy will probably be national player of the year and there's a decent chance he doesn’t get drafted. No room in the modern game for the traditional back to the basket big.

[Rhodymob05]

The modern game is about space. Nothing creates more space than a big you have to cover out to 15-20 feet. People talk like we have had some long line of back to the basket offensive bigs. We’ve had like 2 in 40 years.

100% agree with this. For an extreme example, look at what happened with Purdue’s Edey against FDU. They took advantage of him in the pick and roll game. The guy will probably be national player of the year and there's a decent chance he doesn’t get drafted. No room in the modern game for the traditional back to the basket big.

He lead the team in scoring with a double double. He’s the sole reason Purdue was a 1 seed and #1 in the country. They lost because March is magical. You’re telling me Big10 teams couldn’t figure out how to take advantage of Edey but runner up FDU could? Purdues guards were awful in that game. Having a big is vital. I understand they should be versatile these days, but that still includes back to the basket. *Just my opinion

[reef]

I trust Arch will run the right offense when he gets his guys , he knows what he’s doing

[bigappleram]

Hope we see some commitments this week. Need to get moving on roster assembly. Plus with the carousel slowing down we are running out of things to talk about.

[reef]

Think you are right BAR I can see the first domino falling by the end of this week

[section(105)]

Think you are right BAR I can see the first domino falling by the end of this week

That would be great. Hopefully a player that moves the needle a bit, not a meh move. Someone to get excited about. GoRhody

[reef]

I think it’s going to be that kid from High Point , Mr House

[steveystuds06]

Our first commit last year was April 16th I think.. Hopefully we get someone before that this time around

[reef]

I expect to see a lot more names in the portal in this next week also

[jcru]

House and Pride baby.

Be the dominos

[steveystuds06]

Pretty sure Archie isn’t going to tolerate bad shots,

Sure seemed to tolerate em more than I would, going 10+ minutes with zero points and no timeouts.
There’s guys who are gonna play at the next level, and then there’s the kinda bigs we need in kingston.
I don’t ever like our bigs chucking up shots from deep, I don’t even really want em leaving the paint to set screens.

But I guess that’s why I pay his salary and not vice versa.

Hopefully the offense improves some over what they did this year.

Not sure how long I keep coming if there aren’t signs of improvement.

So you’ll stick around as long as our big men don’t take any 3s, don’t set any screens, and live in the paint? Are you aware it’s 2023 and not 1980? The game has changed…

[ace]

House, Pride, Battle is an all-name line-up. It’s giving Game of Thrones energy,

[jcru]

I think if you watched the women's side, their big women had a good balance of placement at the top of the key and down low. However, when they hung around the top of the key too long on too many trips down the floor, setting screens and taking shots, their team offensive rebounding was almost non existent. At least against the better quality teams they faced at the end of the season. That's why they have to be able to rotate and do both.