The Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel 2023-24

[DevRam]

Was gunna post this, haha portal gunna be a shitshow

So in other words we’re fucked next season? How many transfers will realistically be eligible?

I think there’s too big of a loophole, that most of the players will still be eligible.

[RhodyRams916]

Was gunna post this, haha portal gunna be a shitshow

So in other words we’re fucked next season? How many transfers will realistically be eligible?

I think there’s too big of a loophole, that most of the players will still be eligible.

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I hope there’s a big loophole lol. URI needs guys eligible to play next season. It’s a WIN NOW situation.

[Jdrums#3]

Will it fly with the NCAA if players say they are depressed due to losing ?

Other potential mental health loopholes…

Dear NCAA, I request a transfer waiver because I have Obsessive Compulsive Disorder due to having the uncontrollable urge to excessively shoot during games ?

Or, Dear NCAA, please grant me a waiver. I think I may be delusional because I hear voices during games ?

[reef]

Is this for their 1st transfer or 2nd ??

[RhodyRams916]

Is this for their 1st transfer or 2nd ??

1st

[RhodyKyle]

Is this for their 1st transfer or 2nd ??

1st

Rothstein says 2-time transfers in his tweet

[SGreenwell]

At least with the NBA, if you're claiming a mental health issue you need to provide proof that you're actively seeking treatment for it. I'd suspect (hope?) that the NCAA would work the same way - that if you're claiming to need to transfer because of a mental health issue, you need to actively be receiving counseling or therapy.

[KingstonLane]

This is for 2nd time undergraduate transfers. Not that big of a deal as there aren’t too many of those.

[URI_05]

I think this will actually help with some of the chaos. It’ll make it less likely a player who transfers will then transfer again. You’ll only need to rerecruit your non transfers every year instead of the entire team.

[jcru]

Well, we know Freeman won't have any trouble receiving this waiver

[giovanni]

It could help PC with Carter & Hopkins if they have thoughts of moving.

[jcru]

At least with the NBA, if you're claiming a mental health issue you need to provide proof that you're actively seeking treatment for it. I'd suspect (hope?) that the NCAA would work the same way - that if you're claiming to need to transfer because of a mental health issue, you need to actively be receiving counseling or therapy.

Not too hard though. Like finding a good lawyer. Just need to find a psychiatrist that can navigate the process.

If ever you were going to use that excuse, the time would be now, before the NCAA closes that window.

I bet Battle could claim that, with the right professional backing him up. Sounds like his coach was singling him out and messing with him personally.

Meanwhile start honing in on grad transfers and JUCOs, this roster needs bodies

[phipsiGD'11]

It wouldn't surprise me if P5 schools had an in house sports psychologist. All of their players would then be "actively seeking help for mental health issues".

Didn't we have one for EC after his injury? or was that just rumor?

[jcru]

The problem is, with a player coming here, and then trying to use our paid psychiatrist, would that be considered coercion?

Or do they need to have that already in progress before they go to the new school?

[giovanni]

It wouldn't surprise me if P5 schools had an in house sports psychologist. All of their players would then be "actively seeking help for mental health issues".

Didn't we have one for EC after his injury? or was that just rumor?

As the NCAA always operates a player in this position it wants to transfer to North Carolina or Indiana will have a 95% better shot than wanting to utilize that tactic to transfer to Northeastern or GW

[giovanni]

It wouldn't surprise me if P5 schools had an in house sports psychologist. All of their players would then be "actively seeking help for mental health issues".

Didn't we have one for EC after his injury? or was that just rumor?

As the NCAA always operates a player in this position it wants to transfer to North Carolina or Indiana will have a 95% better shot than a transfer to Northeastern or GW

[KingstonLane]

It could help PC with Carter & Hopkins if they have thoughts of moving.

Can players still get a waiver for a multi-time transfer if there’s a coaching change? It wasn’t explicitly addressed here, but that would make sense to me.

How is it the kids fault if he transfers and then the coach bails on him

[Rhody15]

It could help PC with Carter & Hopkins if they have thoughts of moving.

Can players still get a waiver for a multi-time transfer if there’s a coaching change? It wasn’t explicitly addressed here, but that would make sense to me.

How is it the kids fault if he transfers and then the coach bails on him

Look at the tweet, it explicitly says a coaching change isn't grounds for a waiver.

[KingstonLane]

It could help PC with Carter & Hopkins if they have thoughts of moving.

Can players still get a waiver for a multi-time transfer if there’s a coaching change? It wasn’t explicitly addressed here, but that would make sense to me.

How is it the kids fault if he transfers and then the coach bails on him

Look at the tweet, it explicitly says a coaching change isn't grounds for a waiver.

Touche. That’s what I get for reading before coffee

In typical NCAA fashion, that seems like bullshit to me.

[SGreenwell]

Can players still get a waiver for a multi-time transfer if there’s a coaching change? It wasn’t explicitly addressed here, but that would make sense to me.

How is it the kids fault if he transfers and then the coach bails on him

Look at the tweet, it explicitly says a coaching change isn't grounds for a waiver.

Touche. That’s what I get for reading before coffee

In typical NCAA fashion, that seems like bullshit to me.

Yeah - That strikes me as a very legitimate reason for wanting to transfer, and ignoring the reality that a large component of a player picking a school is because of the coach or coaching staff.

[Rhody15]

Can players still get a waiver for a multi-time transfer if there’s a coaching change? It wasn’t explicitly addressed here, but that would make sense to me.

How is it the kids fault if he transfers and then the coach bails on him

Look at the tweet, it explicitly says a coaching change isn't grounds for a waiver.

Touche. That’s what I get for reading before coffee

In typical NCAA fashion, that seems like bullshit to me.

Yup, I’d say like 90% of kids commit to a coach and not a school, except for maybe Ivy League and other high academic schools.

[Jersey77]

Look at the tweet, it explicitly says a coaching change isn't grounds for a waiver.

Touche. That’s what I get for reading before coffee

In typical NCAA fashion, that seems like bullshit to me.

Yeah - That strikes me as a very legitimate reason for wanting to transfer, and ignoring the reality that a large component of a player picking a school is because of the coach or coaching staff.

Yes, that was previously discussed when Perez was denied a waiver at West Virginia even when his coach was fired prior to the season.

[Billyboy78]

So that rule likely keeps Weston, Tchikou and Bilau here.

[Jersey77]

So that rule likely keeps Weston, Tchikou and Bilau here.

It will try and slow down the portal, but some players will still transfer and sit (like before) if the situation isn’t right for them.

[Billyboy78]

So that rule likely keeps Weston, Tchikou and Bilau here.

It will try and slow down the portal, but some players will still transfer and sit (like before) if the situation isn’t right for them.

Won't they lose a year of eligibility if it's a 2nd transfer?

[Jersey77]

So that rule likely keeps Weston, Tchikou and Bilau here.

It will try and slow down the portal, but some players will still transfer and sit (like before) if the situation isn’t right for them.

Won't they lose a year of eligibility if it's a 2nd transfer?

You don’t lose eligibility still have 5 to play 4 also get the Covid year for 20-21, plus in some cases a medical hardship waiver.

[Dino611]

So that rule likely keeps Weston, Tchikou and Bilau here.

Not necessarily

[RhodyRams916]

Is this for their 1st transfer or 2nd ??

1st

Rothstein says 2-time transfers in his tweet

Oh yeah, I see.

[Billyboy78]

So that rule likely keeps Weston, Tchikou and Bilau here.

Not necessarily

One reason I say this is all three have had to sit out for long periods the past 2 years due to injuries. Do they want to sit out an entire year after transferring?

[Dino611]

So that rule likely keeps Weston, Tchikou and Bilau here.

Not necessarily

One reason I say this is all three have had to sit out for long periods the past 2 years due to injuries. Do they want to sit out an entire year after transferring?

The next two months will tell a lot

[RhodyKyle]

1st

Rothstein says 2-time transfers in his tweet

Oh yeah, I see.

Just wanted to get that out there before the core group of dormers here took it and ran around with their hair on fire.

[Jdrums#3]

So that rule likely keeps Weston, Tchikou and Bilau here.

78, I am wondering if Bilau can transfer under consideration #1 due to physical health ? He could argue he disagrees with local physicians course of treatment, maybe ? Or, wants to be closer to home with a family recommended doctor ?

I am not sure if I am interpreting #1 correctly so, I am posting for clarity on it to the KB board.

[PeterRamTime]

So that rule likely keeps Weston, Tchikou and Bilau here.

78, I am wondering if Bilau can transfer under consideration #1 due to physical health ? He could argue he disagrees with local physicians course of treatment, maybe ? Or, wants to be closer to home with a family recommended doctor ?

I am not sure if I am interpreting #1 correctly so, I am posting for clarity on it to the KB board.

I think he could because he didn't really play at all last year.

That said

Can we please keep him? Some struggle to recognize it, but he's a good player.

We have hardly ever had players 6'10 with his skillset. The dude is skilled, athletic, smart basketball player.

Retain Bilau!

I can almost talk myself into feeling that way with Tchikou

The guy has crazy athleticism for his size. We have literally never had anyone his size with that kind of athleticism and he was really starting to show us something late. Keep working with him and keep his ass in the weightroom and he could be a stud.

We can still retain both of them and add a guy from the portal to give us four total big guys and Rory who I hope we never see play the 5 again.

But of course if we get better players I'm all for it. I just kinda hope they're not all 6'7, 6'8. Yeah I know, if you're good you're good, but every team we've had in the past that used undersized bigs played somebody with legit size it's a total mismatch.

Ya want some dudes 6'10 and up and you want big guards that can defend.

Most of the teams in the sweet 16 right now got size.

I also recognize our bigs last year were all very soft and I'm not saying they'll magically become physical players.

[giovanni]

[Rhodymob05]

When are we thinking that one of the 500 players we’re interested in will bite?

[jcru]

When does "THE TOURNAMENT" end? Traditionally, not until that is over.

[jcru]

Looks like Monday, April 3rd. So, probably should expect something in the two weeks following that.

[RF1]

There are reports on the George Mason forum that Senior Josh Oduro has indicated on his Instagram account that he is departing. Has the added Covid one year of eligibility left should he choose to stay in the college ranks. Likely just the first of the roster fallout with Coach Kim English departing the Patriots.

[jcru]

makes sense. Maybe he follow to Friar town.

[jcru]

Any new news on Timberlake? It's been a couple of weeks. He would be a real one year score for this program.

[jcru]

Ah, nevermind. UCLA, Indiana, UNC all setting up visits with Timberlake.

[Dino611]

Any new news on Timberlake? It's been a couple of weeks. He would be a real one year score for this program.

Not coming here

If you want to know why

[jcru]

yeah, not surprised.

[jcru]

Maybe that is another distinction to make on the master list, instead of just having 100 players listed, show which ones are likely going P6 and which ones we are still in the hunt for.

Doesn't make much sense to have a list with a ton of players on it, when we know 60% of them have been already been overrecruited by P6's. It's not really a list to drum up interest from outsiders, it's a list for us here to cut through the noise so the process of following this doesn't become ridiculous.

[Dino611]

Maybe that is another distinction to make on the master list, instead of just having 100 players listed, show which ones are likely going P6 and which ones we are still in the hunt for.

Doesn't make much sense to have a list with a ton of players on it, when we know 60% of them have been already been overrecruited by P6's. It's not really a list to drum up interest from outsiders, it's a list for us here to cut through the noise so the process of following this doesn't become ridiculous.

There’s been no news jcru as expected which happened last year we truely don’t know if we were going to get someone until they actually committed, Archie isn’t like David Cox where we know every time, for example five of the seven recruits we got last didn’t even know visited until they announced

[jcru]

Well, you touched on something else that is concerning.

Last year, we had "stealth recruiting". No news, and then whammo, signed recruit. The problem with last year is the recruits we got, most of them weren't being recruited by anyone, they were so far under the radar that even our Conference rivals weren't recruiting them, nevermind larger programs. I am hoping that is not the norm going forward.

With the way things are evolving in the NCAA, and this now being Archie's second year, we are seeing something very different. URI involved with lots of players who are transferring who are involved with lots of school, all over the spectrum. We'll see what this produces.

[rjv]

As far as I can see no player from Fordham or VCU has entered the portal. I did not check all schools in A10. Just top teams
What does that mean?

[steviep123]

[RF1]

Justyn Fernandez and Ronald Polite are following Oduro and leaving George Mason. Their roster is being gutted.

[Jersey77]

Justyn Fernandez and Ronald Polite are following Oduro and leaving George Mason. Their roster is being gutted.

Polite was the starting PG for GM.
Averaged 11.5 pts (44% FG)/ 4 assists.
Against us scored 15 pts and had 9 assists.
2-years eligibility