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I’m sure the staff is working 24/7 finding us talent
Keep the faith that the talent level will be much better in season 2 , I think it will
Keep the faith that the talent level will be much better in season 2 , I think it will
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Durugordon transferred again. Wonder what he would have been on this team last year…
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Not sure, but would he also be a now former Ram in the portal again instead of a former AP Governor in the portal.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 year ago Durugordon transferred again. Wonder what he would have been on this team last year…
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Maybe, maybe not. The coach that recruited him got fired, so he'll probably get a waiver wherever he goes.steviep123 wrote: ↑1 year agoNot sure, but would he also be a now former Ram in the portal again instead of a former AP Governor in the portal.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 year ago Durugordon transferred again. Wonder what he would have been on this team last year…
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SG I am not so sure it works that way anymore, since the NCAA changed the waiver rules this past January.SGreenwell wrote: ↑1 year agoMaybe, maybe not. The coach that recruited him got fired, so he'll probably get a waiver wherever he goes.steviep123 wrote: ↑1 year agoNot sure, but would he also be a now former Ram in the portal again instead of a former AP Governor in the portal.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 year ago Durugordon transferred again. Wonder what he would have been on this team last year…
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- Cuttino Mobley
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Not for nothing, with how the season went are we really gonna be that broken up if anyone other than Leggett or Freeman leave?
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He was a snake oil salesman...just like the rest of em
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He was a snake oil salesman...just like the rest of em
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- Cuttino Mobley
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I’m not sure if someone already posted this, but this is another example of where college sports is going. This kid announces his decision to transfer to Georgetown before Cooley announces he is taking the job. It makes Cooley look bad.
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That guys pinned tweet is something that didn’t happen.
Could be a troll account.
Obviously Dual May go to GT, but I wouldn’t base it off that tweet.
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Getting ahead of myself a bit, but Leggett to GTown could make some sense.
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Troll account. Safe to ignore.
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Bleed Keaney Blue!
”I'm not coming there to be in the top 3 of the Atlantic 10. I'm coming to win the damn thing!”
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Bleed Keaney Blue!
”I'm not coming there to be in the top 3 of the Atlantic 10. I'm coming to win the damn thing!”
”I'm not coming there to be in the top 3 of the Atlantic 10. I'm coming to win the damn thing!”
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Wouldn’t their whole team be in the portal by default?
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Looks like we have interest in every warm body out there, with many more transfers to come
Archie just has to find the right ones.
If that sounds daunting, it is.
Archie just has to find the right ones.
If that sounds daunting, it is.
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- Ernie Calverley
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EZ, the GM, the “paid” scouts, draft room experts, etc. ya know like pro football teams.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year agoSo....whose responsibility is it to collect and rate all of these players Rhody's interested in and rate them based on potential contribution to the team and more importantly, likelihood that happens, then posts and tracks that on the board? Who does that?
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- Frank Keaney
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For the team, right. But I mean for the rest of us, like a mock draft service....who's coming here, what they bring, how many years, stats, etc....section(105) wrote: ↑1 year agoEZ, the GM, the “paid” scouts, draft room experts, etc. ya know like pro football teams.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year agoSo....whose responsibility is it to collect and rate all of these players Rhody's interested in and rate them based on potential contribution to the team and more importantly, likelihood that happens, then posts and tracks that on the board? Who does that?
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We'll let you do it.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year agoFor the team, right. But I mean for the rest of us, like a mock draft service....who's coming here, what they bring, how many years, stats, etc....section(105) wrote: ↑1 year agoEZ, the GM, the “paid” scouts, draft room experts, etc. ya know like pro football teams.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year ago
So....whose responsibility is it to collect and rate all of these players Rhody's interested in and rate them based on potential contribution to the team and more importantly, likelihood that happens, then posts and tracks that on the board? Who does that?
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That would defeat the whole purpose...Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 year agoWe'll let you do it.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year agoFor the team, right. But I mean for the rest of us, like a mock draft service....who's coming here, what they bring, how many years, stats, etc....section(105) wrote: ↑1 year ago
EZ, the GM, the “paid” scouts, draft room experts, etc. ya know like pro football teams.
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We trust you'll do a good job.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year agoThat would defeat the whole purpose...Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 year agoWe'll let you do it.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year ago
For the team, right. But I mean for the rest of us, like a mock draft service....who's coming here, what they bring, how many years, stats, etc....
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- Tom Garrick
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Per this article he’s trimming down his list tomorrow or Wednesday and then visits next week, seems like we’re contacting him ALOT, would be a very nice get who would slide into our starting lineup nicely
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- Frank Keaney
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Right we need that first domino to fall !!
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- Tom Garrick
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I truly do believe in the domino effect. One good player comes here and other recruits see that they wanna play for Archie. Gotta lock in the first one soon.reef wrote: ↑1 year agoRight we need that first domino to fall !!
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- Frank Keaney
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No doubt 916, especially if that first guy is a 15-17 ppg scorerRhodyRams916 wrote: ↑1 year agoI truly do believe in the domino effect. One good player comes here and other recruits see that they wanna play for Archie. Gotta lock in the first one soon.
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My guess is his upside. He was recruited by a lot of high majors out of high school.RhodyRams916 wrote: ↑1 year agoHis shooting stats don’t look pretty. I wonder why Archie wants him?!
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Oh yeah, I see Alabama, Arkansas, Creighton… I’ll take himsteveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 year agoMy guess is his upside. He was recruited by a lot of high majors out of high school.RhodyRams916 wrote: ↑1 year agoHis shooting stats don’t look pretty. I wonder why Archie wants him?!
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- Carlton Owens
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Find a successful AAU team and offer their entire starting line-up as a package. Throw in some athletic scholarships for their girl friends, communal living arrangements, NIL money and nights at donated hotel rooms for family/friends if it helps. Don't just think big, act big. Playing for Archie or URI is not a big enough draw for individual great players.
NCAAs or Bust!
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- Sly Williams
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re: Individual recruiting profiles - I stopped doing them for targets midway through Miller's first off-season, because pretty much all of his initial recruits were signed with almost no advance warning. And now, we're involved with a Bryant-like level of players in the transfer market, seemingly. If anyone is looking for a template to copy-paste for it, I'd recommended using the first page of the Sean Durugordon or Vasean Allette threads.
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- Ernie Calverley
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There’s reminders everywhere that the transfer portal, which can work for players, is not even close to being a sure thing. A guy like Corey Floyd transferred from UConn to Providence, there was some bad blood all around (although Hurley and Floyd had a nice moment after their Big East Tournament game), and now Floyd’s going to do what? Transfer a second time, hang around for a situation he didn’t exactly anticipate?
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- Sly Williams
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I think the changes in the recruitment process has accounted for some of that. Back in Al Skinner's day, the players that "slipped through the cracks" were somehow ignored by the P5 schools and landed at places like Rhody.SGreenwell wrote: ↑1 year ago I stopped doing them for targets midway through Miller's first off-season, because pretty much all of his initial recruits were signed with almost no advance warning. And now, we're involved with a Bryant-like level of players in the transfer market, seemingly.
Now, the players that slip through the cracks land everywhere, in places far beyond Rhody. This is like a harvesting of all the players that slipped and used whatever platform they could find to make noise for themselves. Now, we live in an era, where not only is the best player on a team like Towson trying to help their team win their conference tourney championship, but they are also auditioning to try to get that one chance to make it on a much bigger stage, than they missed out on.
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- Sly Williams
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Time for Archie, Kenny et al to recruit like we've been told they can after last year's swings and misses.
"Every season, college basketball has one or two teams that rise from dormancy to relevancy, squads that make long-awaited charges at the NCAA Tournament and become really fun storylines along the way."
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- Sly Williams
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Interesting take: "swings and misses"
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I'm reminded of Jim Baron's first season, when he had a bunch of open scholarships and barely enough players to field a team. And, granted, the recruiting process WAS different back then...
... but he also did that so that he could milk the sympathy that year from the more than willing fan base, ready to give him a PASS. "look what he has to work with, he doesn't have enough players, Jerry D decimated the roster." (which he did, of course)
But, now, we have "swings and misses" because we are upset that Archie wasn't able to turn this team around in one year. So, which one is the better way to go? Leave 4-5 scholarships open and then milk the sympathy, OR, try to fill them all with what you know is less than ideal players, to desperately try to create a roster than can attack the schedule as best as it can, because you crave no one's sympathy?
You tell me.
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I'm reminded of Jim Baron's first season, when he had a bunch of open scholarships and barely enough players to field a team. And, granted, the recruiting process WAS different back then...
... but he also did that so that he could milk the sympathy that year from the more than willing fan base, ready to give him a PASS. "look what he has to work with, he doesn't have enough players, Jerry D decimated the roster." (which he did, of course)
But, now, we have "swings and misses" because we are upset that Archie wasn't able to turn this team around in one year. So, which one is the better way to go? Leave 4-5 scholarships open and then milk the sympathy, OR, try to fill them all with what you know is less than ideal players, to desperately try to create a roster than can attack the schedule as best as it can, because you crave no one's sympathy?
You tell me.
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- Ernie Calverley
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Yeah Iggy the Bray situation was bad and turned into a mess.
But I really didn't expect many of our other new players to be an immediate impact.
Bilau had the injury issues, which is no fault of the staff.
The other players were very young and inexperienced, which at the time was the direction they wanted to go, so it is still too early to say if they were all misses.
But yeah, I do agree that at this time they need players that can immediately come in and heavily contribute.
All of us are hopeful that the staff will put together a very competitive roster this time around.
Also important is the recruiting for '24 and getting some good talent in the early signing period.
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Jim Baron used to make B.S comments like "I didn't fill all of the scholarships because I'm looking for STUDENTS, not just athletes" ... after Jerry D bringing in a bunch of players that gave the teachers and academic support staff fits, trying to keep them eligible. And of course, the more than willing fan base used to lap all of that stuff right up.
Like it was ice cream on a hot, summer's day.
Like it was ice cream on a hot, summer's day.
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A little surprised DD is leaving UMass, I thought he would play a big part next season and be one of the better bigs in the A10. Still has 2-years eligibility left.
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Like that guy who transferred from La Salle, and with no inside information, I think it's easy enough from the outside looking in to assume that he's pissed off about playing time, probably justly so. He led UMass in PER (19.4) but was 6th in MPG, at a comically low 19.6 MPG. He started one game - The coach's son started 26 and was one of the worst rotation players in the A-10 this year. I think Martin will eventually get recruits he likes more and get UMass back up, but their season was probably even more disappointing than ours, given how they closed it out. (Two wins out of 10 games down the stretch, and getting pasted by 33 vs. Richmond in the A-10 tournament.)
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- Sly Williams
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Oh, yeah. Archie had a rough season to start off with, but it still pales in comparison to Martin's at UMass.
Not that we want to use them as a measuring stick....
Not that we want to use them as a measuring stick....
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Kid from La Salle changed his mind and isn’t transferring anymore.SGreenwell wrote: ↑1 year agoLike that guy who transferred from La Salle, and with no inside information, I think it's easy enough from the outside looking in to assume that he's pissed off about playing time, probably justly so. He led UMass in PER (19.4) but was 6th in MPG, at a comically low 19.6 MPG. He started one game - The coach's son started 26 and was one of the worst rotation players in the A-10 this year. I think Martin will eventually get recruits he likes more and get UMass back up, but their season was probably even more disappointing than ours, given how they closed it out. (Two wins out of 10 games down the stretch, and getting pasted by 33 vs. Richmond in the A-10 tournament.)
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Ah, thanks for the heads up!Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year agoKid from La Salle changed his mind and isn’t transferring anymore.SGreenwell wrote: ↑1 year agoLike that guy who transferred from La Salle, and with no inside information, I think it's easy enough from the outside looking in to assume that he's pissed off about playing time, probably justly so. He led UMass in PER (19.4) but was 6th in MPG, at a comically low 19.6 MPG. He started one game - The coach's son started 26 and was one of the worst rotation players in the A-10 this year. I think Martin will eventually get recruits he likes more and get UMass back up, but their season was probably even more disappointing than ours, given how they closed it out. (Two wins out of 10 games down the stretch, and getting pasted by 33 vs. Richmond in the A-10 tournament.)
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- Sly Williams
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Just speculating here, but this could be an example of that. A D2 transfer has a bunch of low majors on his list... and Clemson(?!?!?)...adam914 wrote: ↑1 year ago Something else to keep in mind with these lists...I wish I could find the tweet again, but I saw a reporter recently post that he saw a player mention a list of schools that he had heard from after entering the portal, so the reporter reached out to one of the coaches on the list to check with him. The coach said that not only had the team not reached out to the player, but the coach had never even heard of the player and didn't know who he was. Not claiming that's happening here with anyone specifically, but I found it pretty interesting.
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- Ernie Calverley
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Wouldn't be surprised to see KJ reach out.
He was a consensus 4* stud in HS, prepped in Baltimore.
Didn't play much this past season.
Has 3-years eligibility left.
He was a consensus 4* stud in HS, prepped in Baltimore.
Didn't play much this past season.
Has 3-years eligibility left.
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- Frank Keaney
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Wow I didn’t even know that was the coaches son avg 3 points in 26 starts just terribleSGreenwell wrote: ↑1 year agoAh, thanks for the heads up!Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year agoKid from La Salle changed his mind and isn’t transferring anymore.SGreenwell wrote: ↑1 year ago
Like that guy who transferred from La Salle, and with no inside information, I think it's easy enough from the outside looking in to assume that he's pissed off about playing time, probably justly so. He led UMass in PER (19.4) but was 6th in MPG, at a comically low 19.6 MPG. He started one game - The coach's son started 26 and was one of the worst rotation players in the A-10 this year. I think Martin will eventually get recruits he likes more and get UMass back up, but their season was probably even more disappointing than ours, given how they closed it out. (Two wins out of 10 games down the stretch, and getting pasted by 33 vs. Richmond in the A-10 tournament.)
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famous last words:
Martin: and if I take the job, my son is going to play on the team. Major minutes, in fact.
UMass: oh, yeah, yeah, no problem. Is he any good?
Martin: and if I take the job, my son is going to play on the team. Major minutes, in fact.
UMass: oh, yeah, yeah, no problem. Is he any good?
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I hope Archie isnt solely relying on lower level transfers to come here.
Higher level dropdowns and 3 star and the occasional 4 star freshmen are a must imo.
Higher level dropdowns and 3 star and the occasional 4 star freshmen are a must imo.