Mitchells, Berry, Walker, Ayo-Faleye, Betrand in 2022 portal / transferring

[ace]

Tough break for this crowd

The players have a choice, and that is fine. To me, making that choice SAYS something.
You make a statement, you stand by it. Just my upbringing.
Personally, I don't care to see them back.

Nah. Time to learn a life lesson.

In my opinion, if I were coach, I'd say "That is your choice. It shows me you are not committed. Good luck".
I tied my statement to "I was raised that if you make a choice, stand by it".

Who cares? Let them all walk. Screw ‘em

Its not that they are transferring that bothers me - its this "option of returning" clause they are adding. What an absolute joke. Be a man - if you want out - leave, if you want to stay - stay.

[RamStock]

Glad to have Martin back as he seems to be a real good guy. I’m kind of hoping that he is the only one that stays of the guys that intended to transfer-unless it is Chance which isn’t happening. Leggett needs a new start somewhere else and Walker probably is looking for a role off the bench on a NCAA quality team. I don’t think the two freshman were ever going to have any type of impact. Welcome back Malik?

[Rhody74]

I’m always happy when there’s a Martin on the roster.

[theblueram]

Tough break for this crowd

The players have a choice, and that is fine. To me, making that choice SAYS something.
You make a statement, you stand by it. Just my upbringing.
Personally, I don't care to see them back.

Nah. Time to learn a life lesson.

In my opinion, if I were coach, I'd say "That is your choice. It shows me you are not committed. Good luck".
I tied my statement to "I was raised that if you make a choice, stand by it".

Who cares? Let them all walk. Screw ‘em

Its not that they are transferring that bothers me - its this "option of returning" clause they are adding. What an absolute joke. Be a man - if you want out - leave, if you want to stay - stay.

You do this all the time Ace. Who cares. Malik is back.

[ram1980]

Definitely a good glue and character guy for a new coach. Glad he's staying.

[ace]

Tough break for this crowd

The players have a choice, and that is fine. To me, making that choice SAYS something.
You make a statement, you stand by it. Just my upbringing.
Personally, I don't care to see them back.

Nah. Time to learn a life lesson.

In my opinion, if I were coach, I'd say "That is your choice. It shows me you are not committed. Good luck".
I tied my statement to "I was raised that if you make a choice, stand by it".

Who cares? Let them all walk. Screw ‘em

Its not that they are transferring that bothers me - its this "option of returning" clause they are adding. What an absolute joke. Be a man - if you want out - leave, if you want to stay - stay.

You do this all the time Ace. Who cares. Malik is back.

If it annoys you, I’m glad I did it.

[ace]

Definitely a good glue and character guy for a new coach. Glad he's staying.

In retrospect, I’m glad he didn’t do his senior night. He deserves one that is likely to be much more well-attended and positive.

[RhowdyRam02]

Tough break for this crowd

The players have a choice, and that is fine. To me, making that choice SAYS something.
You make a statement, you stand by it. Just my upbringing.
Personally, I don't care to see them back.

Nah. Time to learn a life lesson.

In my opinion, if I were coach, I'd say "That is your choice. It shows me you are not committed. Good luck".
I tied my statement to "I was raised that if you make a choice, stand by it".

Who cares? Let them all walk. Screw ‘em

Its not that they are transferring that bothers me - its this "option of returning" clause they are adding. What an absolute joke. Be a man - if you want out - leave, if you want to stay - stay.

You do this all the time Ace. Who cares. Malik is back.

People that actually care about the players. Those people care.

[RhowdyRam02]

Definitely a good glue and character guy for a new coach. Glad he's staying.

In retrospect, I’m glad he didn’t do his senior night. He deserves one that is likely to be much more well-attended and positive.

I said what I said earlier and I stand by it. TJ 2.0. He's not going to benefit from the rebuild he facilitates but fans will always look back fondly on his contribution

[theblueram]

Tough break for this crowd

You do this all the time Ace. Who cares. Malik is back.

If it annoys you, I’m glad I did it.

That's what you have? LOL. Good luck.

[ace]

Definitely a good glue and character guy for a new coach. Glad he's staying.

In retrospect, I’m glad he didn’t do his senior night. He deserves one that is likely to be much more well-attended and positive.

I said what I said earlier and I stand by it. TJ 2.0. He's not going to benefit from the rebuild he facilitates but fans will always look back fondly on his contribution

And there are still some younger basketball-playing Martin brothers coming up. No idea how good they’ll be, but I am all for keeping the relationship positive with that family.

[URI_05]

ace the troll?

[theblueram]

Tough break for this crowd

You do this all the time Ace. Who cares. Malik is back.

People that actually care about the players. Those people care.

This game has changed. It's not 4 year players anymore. I'm not a parent of a bb player. I'm a season ticket holder. I won't honor a "senior" who played 1 or 2 years here. Welcome to the new world.

[Ramulous]

So evidently you can withdraw from the portal

[theblueram]

So evidently you can withdraw from the portal

No, you can be recruited out of it.

[PeterRamTime]

No surprise

[ace]

So evidently you can withdraw from the portal

Of course, and the accompanying tweets are always funny to me

[RamStock]

I think the player has the right to enter the transfer portal, but believe once they decide to go that route that the school is in no way obligated to take them back. I’m sure Miller and all coaches attempt to meet and sit down to discuss what each party expects. I’m glad Martin is back, but am not actively hoping for any of the remaining guys to return. If you look back DC Rams had said Bertrand was the best player on URI the minute he got to campus. I thought he might be a pretty good player also, but was disappointed prior to him getting hurt. Bertrand has some interest in a return, but he seems probably one of the least likely to come back

[ElmCityRhody]

Honestly I kind of saw him leaving to spend his last year on a tournament contender. Happy to have him back though. TJ 2.0. He's going to be the heart of our rebuild

Umm… he did return to a NCAA team

We are going to dance next year

Buckle
Up

[Jersey77]

I think the player has the right to enter the transfer portal, but believe once they decide to go that route that the school is in no way obligated to take them back. I’m sure Miller and all coaches attempt to meet and sit down to discuss what each party expects. I’m glad Martin is back, but am not actively hoping for any of the remaining guys to return. If you look back DC Rams had said Bertrand was the best player on URI the minute he got to campus. I thought he might be a pretty good player also, but was disappointed prior to him getting hurt. Bertrand has some interest in a return, but he seems probably one of the least likely to come back

That surprises me because of all the players that did enter the portal other than Malik, I thought AB would be the most likely to stay.
I felt his options would be very limited coming off a serious injury, his surgery, and a Med RS year.
Also only a small sample size in 20-21.

[Jersey77]

Honestly I kind of saw him leaving to spend his last year on a tournament contender. Happy to have him back though. TJ 2.0. He's going to be the heart of our rebuild

Umm… he did return to a NCAA team

We are going to dance next year

Buckle
Up

You may go out dancing, but doubtful we will even be in the NCAAT discussion.

[theblueram]

Tough break for this crowd

You do this all the time Ace. Who cares. Malik is back.

If it annoys you, I’m glad I did it.

Better bring more than Philly BB, Uconn BB or Hurley hubris. You related to Miller as well?

[hrstrat57]

Solid win for A Miller re recruiting Malik Martin. Versatile, steady glue guy player.

Well done! Welcome back Malik!!!!!!

[SGreenwell]

Topic title edited and first post updated.

[RhowdyRam02]

In retrospect, I’m glad he didn’t do his senior night. He deserves one that is likely to be much more well-attended and positive.

I said what I said earlier and I stand by it. TJ 2.0. He's not going to benefit from the rebuild he facilitates but fans will always look back fondly on his contribution

And there are still some younger basketball-playing Martin brothers coming up. No idea how good they’ll be, but I am all for keeping the relationship positive with that family.

I'll never turn down a member of that family. I just hope URI can give Malik what he wants this year

[steveystuds06]

Yes!!!!! I wanted Malik back more than anyone!!!

[MTK4L]

He is the one we want… I would consider taking Walker too. I still see flashes that I like. The rest no thank you…

[Jdrums#3]

Honestly I kind of saw him leaving to spend his last year on a tournament contender. Happy to have him back though. TJ 2.0. He's going to be the heart of our rebuild

Umm… he did return to a NCAA team

We are going to dance next year



Buckle
Up

You may go out dancing, but doubtful we will even be in the NCAAT discussion.

Don’t jump on the realist train so fast, 77. Jump on the ECR train for awhile, at least. Our odds of making the tourney are better today than they were a month ago. A lot can happen over the next several months to improve our odds. Archie is just getting started and ECR is revved up. Look at St Peter’s coming out of nowhere. Why not us?

[reef]

Malik was the guy I wanted back the most , if we have a team full of Malik’s that’s a good thing

[class of 86]

If Archie gets busy in the transfer portal and picks up some good players we will be in the dance discussion next year

[reef]

If Archie gets busy in the transfer portal and picks up some good players we will be in the dance discussion next year

It won’t surprise me at all , this is the new age of college hoops

[TruePoint]

Honestly I kind of saw him leaving to spend his last year on a tournament contender. Happy to have him back though. TJ 2.0. He's going to be the heart of our rebuild

Umm… he did return to a NCAA team

We are going to dance next year

Buckle
Up

You may go out dancing, but doubtful we will even be in the NCAAT discussion.

FWIW, I think you guys are both crazy. No possible way anyone can tell what the ceiling is for this team next year while this season is technically still going. If I had to make a bet on it, I’d guess that rebuilding this program takes longer than one season. But I wouldn’t bet my house. There is way too much that we don’t and can’t know right now to be so confident in either direction.

[reef]

Umm… he did return to a NCAA team

We are going to dance next year

Buckle
Up

You may go out dancing, but doubtful we will even be in the NCAAT discussion.

FWIW, I think you guys are both crazy. No possible way anyone can tell what the ceiling is for this team next year while this season is technically still going. If I had to make a bet on it, I’d guess that rebuilding this program takes longer than one season. But I wouldn’t bet my house. There is way too much that we don’t and can’t know right now to be so confident in either direction.

Totally agree , we have like 6 roster players as of now I really don’t see how anyone can make an accurate prediction of where we will finish , let’s see what the roster looks like in October and compare it with others then we can better predict

[steviep123]

This coming season is about building a winning culture. I know we want to win now but I’m taking the long view.

[NYGFan_Section208]

If Archie gets busy in the transfer portal and picks up some good players we will be in the dance discussion next year

Correct

[ElmCityRhody]

If Archie gets busy in the transfer portal and picks up some good players we will be in the dance discussion next year

Correct

No doubt

The man I saw at the podium is having his team
In the ncaa next year

[NYGFan_Section208]

If Archie gets busy in the transfer portal and picks up some good players we will be in the dance discussion next year

Correct

No doubt

The man I saw at the podium is having his team
In the ncaa next year

Agree. Malik back is 'nice', I guess, if Archie wants him. But, the difference-makers will come via the PP. We get a legit scoring threat PG and we are on our way....

[Jersey77]

Umm… he did return to a NCAA team

We are going to dance next year

Buckle
Up

You may go out dancing, but doubtful we will even be in the NCAAT discussion.

FWIW, I think you guys are both crazy. No possible way anyone can tell what the ceiling is for this team next year while this season is technically still going. If I had to make a bet on it, I’d guess that rebuilding this program takes longer than one season. But I wouldn’t bet my house. There is way too much that we don’t and can’t know right now to be so confident in either direction.

Well yeah not betting the house on it.
And yes, it is early yet, but at this time all we can do is speculate.

I am riding the Archie train like everyone else here.
But let's be real here, last season we finished 11th and there a bunch of really good/solid teams we would have to leapfrog to even be in the discussion.

Not saying that isn't impossible, but not probable.
I would be thrilled if we were in the NIT 22-23.

Not saying that Archie won't take us to the promised land, just probably not next season.

[rambone 78]

Yes a winning culture needs to be re-established since Cox so neatly destroyed what Hurley had built.

My guess is, it will take another year to contend for an NCAA berth.

But we should be MUCH better next season.

Finding that PG will be the biggest task.

[NYGFan_Section208]

You may go out dancing, but doubtful we will even be in the NCAAT discussion.

FWIW, I think you guys are both crazy. No possible way anyone can tell what the ceiling is for this team next year while this season is technically still going. If I had to make a bet on it, I’d guess that rebuilding this program takes longer than one season. But I wouldn’t bet my house. There is way too much that we don’t and can’t know right now to be so confident in either direction.

Well yeah not betting the house on it.
And yes, it is early yet, but at this time all we can do is speculate.

I am riding the Archie train like everyone else here.
But let's be real here, last season we finished 11th and there a bunch of really good/solid teams we would have to leapfrog to even be in the discussion.

Not saying that isn't impossible, but not probable.
I would be thrilled if we were in the NIT 22-23.

Not saying that Archie won't take us to the promised land, just probably not next season.

NIT next year would be a disappointment.

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Raise your hand if you would like to be a fly on the wall, for the convo between Coach Miller and the Mitchels……..

[NYGFan_Section208]

Raise your hand if you would like to be a fly on the wall, for the convo between Coach Miller and the Mitchels……..

That would be fun, but waaaaaay more interested in the impact of said conversation.

[Jersey77]

FWIW, I think you guys are both crazy. No possible way anyone can tell what the ceiling is for this team next year while this season is technically still going. If I had to make a bet on it, I’d guess that rebuilding this program takes longer than one season. But I wouldn’t bet my house. There is way too much that we don’t and can’t know right now to be so confident in either direction.

Well yeah not betting the house on it.
And yes, it is early yet, but at this time all we can do is speculate.

I am riding the Archie train like everyone else here.
But let's be real here, last season we finished 11th and there a bunch of really good/solid teams we would have to leapfrog to even be in the discussion.

Not saying that isn't impossible, but not probable.
I would be thrilled if we were in the NIT 22-23.

Not saying that Archie won't take us to the promised land, just probably not next season.

NIT next year would be a disappointment.

Yeah we all want better, but I am pumping the brakes a little and tempering my expectations.

[steviep123]

FWIW, I think you guys are both crazy. No possible way anyone can tell what the ceiling is for this team next year while this season is technically still going. If I had to make a bet on it, I’d guess that rebuilding this program takes longer than one season. But I wouldn’t bet my house. There is way too much that we don’t and can’t know right now to be so confident in either direction.

Well yeah not betting the house on it.
And yes, it is early yet, but at this time all we can do is speculate.

I am riding the Archie train like everyone else here.
But let's be real here, last season we finished 11th and there a bunch of really good/solid teams we would have to leapfrog to even be in the discussion.

Not saying that isn't impossible, but not probable.
I would be thrilled if we were in the NIT 22-23.

Not saying that Archie won't take us to the promised land, just probably not next season.

NIT next year would be a disappointment.

Don’t make me quote Winston Wolf if you get the reference.

[rhodylaw]

Doubters will say that we finished 11th this year with a lot of the guys who are returning, BUT that team was better then 11th, I don’t think guys got used to their best potential.

[rhodyrudder]

We played great against both NCAA teams in all of the games we had with them, but went 1-3.
Next year, we'll be much better at closing those games out.

[Rhody72]

The sun peeks out from behind the clouds and it is the best time of year again to be a URI basketball fan, May I remind you of the Norman Rockwell cover of the family's trip to the beach. But, I love your enthusiasm. This is going to be a multi-year project.

[ram1980]

Raise your hand if you would like to be a fly on the wall, for the convo between Coach Miller and the Mitchels……..

[SmartyBarrett]

FWIW, I think you guys are both crazy. No possible way anyone can tell what the ceiling is for this team next year while this season is technically still going. If I had to make a bet on it, I’d guess that rebuilding this program takes longer than one season. But I wouldn’t bet my house. There is way too much that we don’t and can’t know right now to be so confident in either direction.

VERY extreme examples, but look at Maryland and Iowa State this year. Two teams that rebuilt via the portal and, for better or worse, bucked the preseason projections. Getting program stability will take more than one year, but next year is a complete unknown in terms of success (or not). Even when the roster is fully in place it'll be really hard to know what to expect.

[SGreenwell]

FWIW, I think you guys are both crazy. No possible way anyone can tell what the ceiling is for this team next year while this season is technically still going. If I had to make a bet on it, I’d guess that rebuilding this program takes longer than one season. But I wouldn’t bet my house. There is way too much that we don’t and can’t know right now to be so confident in either direction.

VERY extreme examples, but look at Maryland and Iowa State this year. Two teams that rebuilt via the portal and, for better or worse, bucked the preseason projections. Getting program stability will take more than one year, but next year is a complete unknown in terms of success (or not). Even when the roster is fully in place it'll be really hard to know what to expect.

I do think they show how much of a crapshoot the portal can be, though. I don't think it's that different from "conventional" recruiting, except that the highs and the lows are probably more narrow. (i.e. You're probably going to have less complete busts in the transfer market, but also, probably less all-A10 level players.)

I think the range of outcomes for URI in 2022-23 is really wide - The prediction contest should be interesting. I think most of us thought that the team wasn't especially well-coached this year, but that being said, we're still clearly deficient in some areas even with better coaching. (Lack of a knockdown shooter, a guard that can consistently get to the rim, etc.)