No, I can't imagine that.rambone 78 wrote: ↑2 years ago The decision isn't 100% done, because there's one chance in hell we win the A10's.
Vegas says it's 100 to 1.....should be more like 10,000 to 1.
If Cox was fired Monday that would eliminate that possibility altogether.
Could you imagine if Bozeman took over and led us to the title?
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This is absolutely ridiculous. Give a guy an extension who should be fired because you never want a coach to go into his last year without protection. How about producing like the rest of us have to do at our jobs? If they get a competent coach in here he will bring in some recruits and the way the transfer rule works now it is very easy to get new players aboard. In terms of who leaves I honestly don’t care if they started from scratch. I think it is absolutely crazy to give extensions and waste anymore money for a program that is challenged financially. What would the extension have accomplished? Everyone wants Cox gone!Rhody72 wrote: ↑2 years agoI said Thorr should have extended Cox's contract with a favorable buy-out provision for URI. It wouldn't hurt URI to have given Cox and extension with a $300K buy-out at any time as well as incentives for favorable team results. You NEVER want a coach to be in the final year of a contract. Of course you want to market your coaches favorably. Thorr killed recruiting and morale by not extending Cox as I have described.
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You’re keeping out the part where you said he’s a great coach because you have experience hiring people. I wish I worked for you. I would just do a shit job and you’d keep giving me a raise.Rhody72 wrote: ↑2 years agoI said Thorr should have extended Cox's contract with a favorable buy-out provision for URI. It wouldn't hurt URI to have given Cox and extension with a $300K buy-out at any time as well as incentives for favorable team results. You NEVER want a coach to be in the final year of a contract. Of course you want to market your coaches favorably. Thorr killed recruiting and morale by not extending Cox as I have described.
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And extensions, don't forget extensionssteveystuds06 wrote: ↑2 years agoYou’re keeping out the part where you said he’s a great coach because you have experience hiring people. I wish I worked for you. I would just do a shit job and you’d keep giving me a raise.Rhody72 wrote: ↑2 years agoI said Thorr should have extended Cox's contract with a favorable buy-out provision for URI. It wouldn't hurt URI to have given Cox and extension with a $300K buy-out at any time as well as incentives for favorable team results. You NEVER want a coach to be in the final year of a contract. Of course you want to market your coaches favorably. Thorr killed recruiting and morale by not extending Cox as I have described.
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Where did I say I was giving him a raise without improved results? Everything additional would be incentive based. What Thorr did killed recruiting and motivated no one,steveystuds06 wrote: ↑2 years ago
You’re keeping out the part where you said he’s a great coach because you have experience hiring people. I wish I worked for you. I would just do a shit job and you’d keep giving me a raise.
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The extension I would have given Cox would have allowed termination even after this year by paying the same 300K buyout his current contract provided if team performance didn't improve. It is a recruiting problem if the HC is in the last 1-2 years of a contract. The best we have coming in next year is a 2* recruit. We are competing against Lehigh for recruits.Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years ago
72, I don't think so.
You can't justify giving him an extension after finishing 10th and going 10-15 (7-10)
He had every opportunity this season to prove himself and Thorr was more than fair with him.
His contract runs through next season, it wouldn't have had much of an impact on the 2021 recruits.
I think if there was a morale issue it was more because of losing than Cox's contract situation.
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Even though I am not 100% sold on *'s, our recruitment has more to do with our staff's ability than the HC's contract situation, unless of course this was the final year of his contract. He didn't earn the extension last year.Rhody72 wrote: ↑2 years agoThe extension I would have given Cox would have allowed termination even after this year by paying the same 300K buyout his current contract provided if team performance didn't improve. It is a recruiting problem if the HC is in the last 1-2 years of a contract. The best we have coming in next year is a 2* recruit. We are competing against Lehigh for recruits.Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years ago
72, I don't think so.
You can't justify giving him an extension after finishing 10th and going 10-15 (7-10)
He had every opportunity this season to prove himself and Thorr was more than fair with him.
His contract runs through next season, it wouldn't have had much of an impact on the 2021 recruits.
I think if there was a morale issue it was more because of losing than Cox's contract situation.
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We agree that he didn't earn the extension last year, but URI was in no position to fire him and didn't.. So Cox was going to be our coach for another year. An extension paid him no more unless the team exceeded expectation, maintained the same buy-out as the old contract, and avoided the appearance to recruits of a coach on the way out the door.
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And the trap and the rope aw they work just fine got 10 more minutes to go
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Give this some thought as the URI league schedule ends at 5-12. Only Dambrot at Duquense will have lost more A-10 league games this season than David Cox. 12-22 in league play the past two seasons combined. The time has come to move on.
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ECR right again
COX IS A PIECE OF PIE !
COX IS A PIECE OF PIE !
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So bye-bye, Miss American Pie
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See ya !
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5 wins in one of the weakest A-10’s in my lifetime.
The decision was easy.
We are the second worst team in this conference - with a talent level in the top half.
This is a team that lacks discipline, leadership, cohesion, and plays a level of basketball that would be appropriate to expect in a CYO league.
Onto the next. Please get me Archie.
The decision was easy.
We are the second worst team in this conference - with a talent level in the top half.
This is a team that lacks discipline, leadership, cohesion, and plays a level of basketball that would be appropriate to expect in a CYO league.
Onto the next. Please get me Archie.
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Thorr must be compiling his short list as we speakBlue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago 5 wins in one of the weakest A-10’s in my lifetime.
The decision was easy.
We are the second worst team in this conference - with a talent level in the top half.
This is a team that lacks discipline, leadership, cohesion, and plays a level of basketball that would be appropriate to expect in a CYO league.
Onto the next. Please get me Archie.
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Nine
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Thank god it’s conference championship week so I can entertain myself with other college bball
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reef wrote: ↑2 years agoThorr must be compiling his short list as we speakBlue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago 5 wins in one of the weakest A-10’s in my lifetime.
The decision was easy.
We are the second worst team in this conference - with a talent level in the top half.
This is a team that lacks discipline, leadership, cohesion, and plays a level of basketball that would be appropriate to expect in a CYO league.
Onto the next. Please get me Archie.
He hopefully has been working on it for the last SIX WEEKS.
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It’s sad to see how far we have fallen…
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Hopefully for over a yearRF1 wrote: ↑2 years agoreef wrote: ↑2 years agoThorr must be compiling his short list as we speakBlue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago 5 wins in one of the weakest A-10’s in my lifetime.
The decision was easy.
We are the second worst team in this conference - with a talent level in the top half.
This is a team that lacks discipline, leadership, cohesion, and plays a level of basketball that would be appropriate to expect in a CYO league.
Onto the next. Please get me Archie.
He hopefully has been working on it for the last SIX WEEKS.
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If you ever want proof the sports books are a mugs game, here it is. A measley 100-1. There is a better chance the Ramses statue comes to life and starts dropping solid granite sheep shits on the front lawn of the Union than this team winning the A10 tournament. FOOH Vegas.rambone 78 wrote: ↑2 years ago The decision isn't 100% done, because there's one chance in hell we win the A10's.
Vegas says it's 100 to 1.....should be more like 10,000 to 1.
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Any post game quotes yet? Here’s a pregame one.
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Anybody else have a hard time seeing Thorr buy Cox out of the final year of his contract? I feel like he’s gonna give him one more year given we’re a state school from a tiny state. Rhode Island doesn’t exactly have a solid state budget. Not sure if that comes into play in this situation.
Just my initial thought.
Just my initial thought.
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URI is basically a Private Public. The state has no say.SandorClegane wrote: ↑2 years ago Anybody else have a hard time seeing Thorr buy Cox out of the final year of his contract? I feel like he’s gonna give him one more year given we’re a state school from a tiny state. Rhode Island doesn’t exactly have a solid state budget. Not sure if that comes into play in this situation.
Just my initial thought.
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From what i heard, though it may not be reliable David Cox won't make this easy he might not be as nice a guy as everyone portrays him to beSandorClegane wrote: ↑2 years ago Anybody else have a hard time seeing Thorr buy Cox out of the final year of his contract? I feel like he’s gonna give him one more year given we’re a state school from a tiny state. Rhode Island doesn’t exactly have a solid state budget. Not sure if that comes into play in this situation.
Just my initial thought.
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No.theblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoURI is basically a Private Public. The state has no say.SandorClegane wrote: ↑2 years ago Anybody else have a hard time seeing Thorr buy Cox out of the final year of his contract? I feel like he’s gonna give him one more year given we’re a state school from a tiny state. Rhode Island doesn’t exactly have a solid state budget. Not sure if that comes into play in this situation.
Just my initial thought.
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No? The University is not a public private or the state has no say?section(105) wrote: ↑2 years agoNo.theblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoURI is basically a Private Public. The state has no say.SandorClegane wrote: ↑2 years ago Anybody else have a hard time seeing Thorr buy Cox out of the final year of his contract? I feel like he’s gonna give him one more year given we’re a state school from a tiny state. Rhode Island doesn’t exactly have a solid state budget. Not sure if that comes into play in this situation.
Just my initial thought.
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No, was the answer is the first SG question.theblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoNo? The University is not a public private or the state has no say?
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The state contributes 8% of operating funds. 8%. I believe that is a minority interest.section(105) wrote: ↑2 years agoNo, was the answer is the first SG question.
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Sorry Jeff, just misreading things. I see now.theblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoThe state contributes 8% of operating funds. 8%. I believe that is a minority interest.
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In what way will he not make it easy though? If you get fired you're fired. What can he really do about it?giovanni wrote: ↑2 years agoFrom what i heard, though it may not be reliable David Cox won't make this easy he might not be as nice a guy as everyone portrays him to beSandorClegane wrote: ↑2 years ago Anybody else have a hard time seeing Thorr buy Cox out of the final year of his contract? I feel like he’s gonna give him one more year given we’re a state school from a tiny state. Rhode Island doesn’t exactly have a solid state budget. Not sure if that comes into play in this situation.
Just my initial thought.
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theblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoNo? The University is not a public private or the state has no say?
I mean URI is not remotely a "Private public" or "public private" but you're absolutely right that there is no mechanism for the state legislature or governor's office to directly make operational decisions at URI.
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Thorr fired Jim Baron when he had two years left on his contract and had to pay a $1.1M buyout amount. Cox has one year left with a buyout equal only to his base salary of approximately $300k. Cox is gone.SandorClegane wrote: ↑2 years ago Anybody else have a hard time seeing Thorr buy Cox out of the final year of his contract? I feel like he’s gonna give him one more year given we’re a state school from a tiny state. Rhode Island doesn’t exactly have a solid state budget. Not sure if that comes into play in this situation.
Just my initial thought.
Here is some recent coaching change buyouts at URI in the past decade:
2012 - URI buys out Jim Baron at $1.1M
2018 - Dan Hurley buys out URI at $1.5M
2022 - URI buys out David Cox for $300k
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Whoa so you're saying we're up by $100k? House money.RF1 wrote: ↑2 years agoThorr fired Jim Baron when he had two years left on his contract and had to pay a $1.1M buyout amount. Cox has one year left with a buyout equal only to his base salary of approximately $300k. Cox is gone.SandorClegane wrote: ↑2 years ago Anybody else have a hard time seeing Thorr buy Cox out of the final year of his contract? I feel like he’s gonna give him one more year given we’re a state school from a tiny state. Rhode Island doesn’t exactly have a solid state budget. Not sure if that comes into play in this situation.
Just my initial thought.
Here is some recent coaching change buyouts at URI in the past decade:
2012 - URI buys out Jim Baron at $1.1M
2018 - Dan Hurley buys out URI at $1.5M
2022 - URI buys out David Cox for $300k
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Exactly. Every year that passes by without success further removes us from being a relevant program. As is we’re teetering on losing what we had from Hurley. Thorr is a smart guy, he knows its time to move on.RF1 wrote: ↑2 years agoThorr fired Jim Baron when he had two years left on his contract and had to pay a $1.1M buyout amount. Cox has one year left with a buyout equal only to his base salary of approximately $300k. Cox is gone.SandorClegane wrote: ↑2 years ago Anybody else have a hard time seeing Thorr buy Cox out of the final year of his contract? I feel like he’s gonna give him one more year given we’re a state school from a tiny state. Rhode Island doesn’t exactly have a solid state budget. Not sure if that comes into play in this situation.
Just my initial thought.
Also doesn’t take a genius to know finishing your season 2-11 and being in the play in game is not bad it’s embarrassing
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Won't make this easy? It was David Cox himself that absolutely made his firing easy. He will rightfully be fired for failing to meet even minimal expectations.giovanni wrote: ↑2 years agoFrom what i heard, though it may not be reliable David Cox won't make this easy he might not be as nice a guy as everyone portrays him to beSandorClegane wrote: ↑2 years ago Anybody else have a hard time seeing Thorr buy Cox out of the final year of his contract? I feel like he’s gonna give him one more year given we’re a state school from a tiny state. Rhode Island doesn’t exactly have a solid state budget. Not sure if that comes into play in this situation.
Just my initial thought.
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lol what does that even mean? Is he going to blackmail Thorr? Throw a temper tantrum?giovanni wrote: ↑2 years agoFrom what i heard, though it may not be reliable David Cox won't make this easy he might not be as nice a guy as everyone portrays him to beSandorClegane wrote: ↑2 years ago Anybody else have a hard time seeing Thorr buy Cox out of the final year of his contract? I feel like he’s gonna give him one more year given we’re a state school from a tiny state. Rhode Island doesn’t exactly have a solid state budget. Not sure if that comes into play in this situation.
Just my initial thought.
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Well let's just hope it happens ASAP. I don't think anyone wants to see someone lose a job but he's grossly overpaid and will have no problem latching on to an assistant's job somewhere else.RF1 wrote: ↑2 years agoWon't make this easy? It was David Cox himself that absolutely made his firing easy. He will rightfully be fired for failing to meet even minimal expectations.giovanni wrote: ↑2 years agoFrom what i heard, though it may not be reliable David Cox won't make this easy he might not be as nice a guy as everyone portrays him to beSandorClegane wrote: ↑2 years ago Anybody else have a hard time seeing Thorr buy Cox out of the final year of his contract? I feel like he’s gonna give him one more year given we’re a state school from a tiny state. Rhode Island doesn’t exactly have a solid state budget. Not sure if that comes into play in this situation.
Just my initial thought.
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Grossly overpaid? I think he is grossly underpaid even though he is grossly under performing.giovanni wrote: ↑2 years agoWell let's just hope it happens ASAP. I don't think anyone wants to see someone lose a job but he's grossly overpaid and will have no problem latching on to an assistant's job somewhere else.
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Right is he all of a sudden going to turn on Thorr ?? Face it Cox your out in 10 or so daysKingstonLane wrote: ↑2 years agolol what does that even mean? Is he going to blackmail Thorr? Throw a temper tantrum?giovanni wrote: ↑2 years agoFrom what i heard, though it may not be reliable David Cox won't make this easy he might not be as nice a guy as everyone portrays him to beSandorClegane wrote: ↑2 years ago Anybody else have a hard time seeing Thorr buy Cox out of the final year of his contract? I feel like he’s gonna give him one more year given we’re a state school from a tiny state. Rhode Island doesn’t exactly have a solid state budget. Not sure if that comes into play in this situation.
Just my initial thought.
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Also in terms of him "not being a nice guy"... can you blame him right now? He's having a very shitty time and finding out some very unpleasant truths about himself and his career. If he's been a bit of a bear lately I sort of understand that. He hasn't been a good head coach at URI but I seriously doubt he's going to be suddenly unmasked as like a super villain. Things didn't work out. It happens. People usually aren't sunshine and rainbow farts about it.
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Grossly underpaid if he was winning and effective, grossly overpaid based on his job performance imotheblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoGrossly overpaid? I think he is grossly underpaid even though he is grossly under performing.
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This statement is so accurate. If we're serious, we need to dig deep for serious money. Getting cheap with staff not only encourages good people to leave, but I think on some level it helps encourage admins to tolerate mediocrity longer than we should, because "hey, JB sucks complete ass but he's a real bargain!" Paying more brings more serious talent and is a serious inducement against tolerating failure.theblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoGrossly overpaid? I think he is grossly underpaid even though he is grossly under performing.
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Guy is making like $800k. Which is about $300K more than Penders made when he moved to Texas in 1989. You get what you pay. All I'm saying.giovanni wrote: ↑2 years agoGrossly underpaid if he was winning and effective, grossly overpaid based on his job performance imotheblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoGrossly overpaid? I think he is grossly underpaid even though he is grossly under performing.
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Nah you can’t get off that easy with such a terrible take.giovanni wrote: ↑2 years agoWell let's just hope it happens ASAP. I don't think anyone wants to see someone lose a job but he's grossly overpaid and will have no problem latching on to an assistant's job somewhere else.
What have you heard? Cox is gonna fight back on being fired? He have blackmail on Thorr? What’s Cox gonna do?
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theblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoGuy is making like $800k. Which is about $300K more than Penders made when he moved to Texas in 1989. You get what you pay. All I'm saying.giovanni wrote: ↑2 years agoGrossly underpaid if he was winning and effective, grossly overpaid based on his job performance imotheblueram wrote: ↑2 years ago
Grossly overpaid? I think he is grossly underpaid even though he is grossly under performing.
Hahahahha yea, everybody gets paid the same in 2022 than they did in 1989.
Totally legitimate to compare coaches salaries from those two seasons. It’s definitely apples to apples.
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How much does Cooley make? How much did he get day one on his contract? As a coach from Fairfield? I'm sure more than Cox.Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 years agotheblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoGuy is making like $800k. Which is about $300K more than Penders made when he moved to Texas in 1989. You get what you pay. All I'm saying.
Hahahahha yea, everybody gets paid the same in 2022 than they did in 1989.
Totally legitimate to compare coaches salaries from those two seasons. It’s definitely apples to apples.
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I’m totally lost with this take Gio… what do you mean ??Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 years agoNah you can’t get off that easy with such a terrible take.
What have you heard? Cox is gonna fight back on being fired? He have blackmail on Thorr? What’s Cox gonna do?
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