Kenny Green request

[RhodeIslandRams]

Forgive me mods, I couldn't find a proper place for this.

Just had a chat with Kenny Green, haven't talked to him in 7 years.

He's getting into coaching and I believe is the coach at a high school in CT?

He is pushing hard to get into college coaching and asked if I would keep my ears open for him. Well YOU guys know the coaching world, I don't, so if anyone hears of a job Kenny might be a good fit for, please let him know.

Wouldn't he be a good Big Man coach for URI? Just sayin

[Rhodyhooopz]

Perfect coach for the bigs at URI.

[Bos8]

Hoopdirt.com

[RhodeIslandRams]

Thanks Bos8

[NYGFan_Section208]

Perfect coach for the bigs at URI.

Can't fill a position that doesn't exist can you?

[Running Ram]

Bump

we need one of these, you know a coach that develops post players...

[Rhody74]

We know he could play the position. It doesn’t mean he can teach it. Still I hope he gets a shot somewhere.

[Rhodyhooopz]

We know he could play the position. It doesn’t mean he can teach it. Still I hope he gets a shot somewhere.

Well we know none of our existing coaches can coach them that's for sure. I talked to Kenny at length last year at one of the games. He has an understanding of how to coach kids. He was talking about how the kids need time for the game to slow down for them, how to handle each kids emotions and give them confidence. That sounded like a coach to me. I am sure teaching the physical part of the game will be the easy part.

[Billyboy78]

Can Kenny physically get out on the floor and teach? Those knees (sadly), were horrible 30+ years ago.

[SGreenwell]

I've never met Kenny Green - I'm sure he's a good guy, judging from past posts and threads on here about him. However, expecting that if we hire Coach X, and suddenly your players are going to be good low post players, kind of ignores how basketball is now played.

Like, the days when you'd throw it into the post and expect to get a bucket are gone - zone defenses have gotten better to swarm big men, individual defenders are faster and longer, etc. It's not a coincidence that Georgetown had a seven-footer put up a line of 15.5/9.8 this year, and they went 15-17. You're going to get teams that have some success with it still, like teams that still manage to post winning seasons while relying on midrange jumpers, but I think it's foolish for teams to attempt emulating them. (Maybe I can call this The Gonzaga Problem - I feel like every year, they have some seven-foot dude that posts gaudy numbers and they win games, but it doesn't matter once they hit the NCAA tournament.) Heck, you can even see it in Texas high school basketball - Before the season shutdown, I was watching teams with traditional centers that they couldn't play, because they couldn't switch quick enough on a pick and roll.

If anything, I'd argue we should go the other direction - One big guy who can rebound, block shots, set picks and rim run. The other four guys shoot 3s. Find the best possible offensive efficiency and shooting coaches you can, and steer hard into the "Running Rams" image of the past, with an emphasis on pace and 3-point shooting.

[Rhody15]

I've never met Kenny Green - I'm sure he's a good guy, judging from past posts and threads on here about him. However, expecting that if we hire Coach X, and suddenly your players are going to be good low post players, kind of ignores how basketball is now played.

Like, the days when you'd throw it into the post and expect to get a bucket are gone - zone defenses have gotten better to swarm big men, individual defenders are faster and longer, etc. It's not a coincidence that Georgetown had a seven-footer put up a line of 15.5/9.8 this year, and they went 15-17. You're going to get teams that have some success with it still, like teams that still manage to post winning seasons while relying on midrange jumpers, but I think it's foolish for teams to attempt emulating them. (Maybe I can call this The Gonzaga Problem - I feel like every year, they have some seven-foot dude that posts gaudy numbers and they win games, but it doesn't matter once they hit the NCAA tournament.) Heck, you can even see it in Texas high school basketball - Before the season shutdown, I was watching teams with traditional centers that they couldn't play, because they couldn't switch quick enough on a pick and roll.

If anything, I'd argue we should go the other direction - One big guy who can rebound, block shots, set picks and rim run. The other four guys shoot 3s. Find the best possible offensive efficiency and shooting coaches you can, and steer hard into the "Running Rams" image of the past, with an emphasis on pace and 3-point shooting.

Sweet 16 or better for Gonzaga for the last 5 years.

Those big men must be doing something well for them!

[SGreenwell]

I've never met Kenny Green - I'm sure he's a good guy, judging from past posts and threads on here about him. However, expecting that if we hire Coach X, and suddenly your players are going to be good low post players, kind of ignores how basketball is now played.

Like, the days when you'd throw it into the post and expect to get a bucket are gone - zone defenses have gotten better to swarm big men, individual defenders are faster and longer, etc. It's not a coincidence that Georgetown had a seven-footer put up a line of 15.5/9.8 this year, and they went 15-17. You're going to get teams that have some success with it still, like teams that still manage to post winning seasons while relying on midrange jumpers, but I think it's foolish for teams to attempt emulating them. (Maybe I can call this The Gonzaga Problem - I feel like every year, they have some seven-foot dude that posts gaudy numbers and they win games, but it doesn't matter once they hit the NCAA tournament.) Heck, you can even see it in Texas high school basketball - Before the season shutdown, I was watching teams with traditional centers that they couldn't play, because they couldn't switch quick enough on a pick and roll.

If anything, I'd argue we should go the other direction - One big guy who can rebound, block shots, set picks and rim run. The other four guys shoot 3s. Find the best possible offensive efficiency and shooting coaches you can, and steer hard into the "Running Rams" image of the past, with an emphasis on pace and 3-point shooting.

Sweet 16 or better for Gonzaga for the last 5 years.

Those big men must be doing something well for them!

Ha, touche! I suppose that image of Gonzaga disappointing yearly with my NCAA bracket is still in my head... However, I would note that their current coaching staff doesn't really have a "big man" coach either.

[steviep123]

It is clear that a big man coach will help - look at the difference when ARD was here to before and after. That tells you what you need to know. That is a different question than if KG is the guy.

[Matt Keebler]

This whole thread is absurd. He has zero experience and we aren’t hiring. (For the record, I love Kenny and some of my earliest memories of Rhody hoops are watching him and the 88 team!)

[ramster]

Why did so many rate Cox an A or B for the 2019-2020 Season and yet his ability to hire adequate Assistant Coaches continues to get criticized.

Is his staff really as bad as so many think it is? Cox hired every last one of them and rehires the staff every year to a 1 - year contract.

I tend to like his hiring choices.

[DeanDome88]

This whole thread is absurd. He has zero experience and we aren’t hiring. (For the record, I love Kenny and some of my earliest memories of Rhody hoops are watching him and the 88 team!)

He has zero experience?

[PlayMikeMotenMore]

It's "Kenny" Green. I believe one of Bryant's assistants (Brock Erickson) just left to become an assistant at the University of Illinois-Chicago.

[DeanDome88]

I blew off the spelling but thought for sure that he coached overseas for a number of years.

[Matt Keebler]

This whole thread is absurd. He has zero experience and we aren’t hiring. (For the record, I love Kenny and some of my earliest memories of Rhody hoops are watching him and the 88 team!)

He has zero experience?

As of June 2019 he had no coaching experience, forgive me if something changed in the last 10 months but I’m pretty sure it hasn’t. And don’t get me wrong, I love the guy, I just don’t see how this hire would make any sense.

[DC_Rams]

This whole thread is absurd. He has zero experience and we aren’t hiring. (For the record, I love Kenny and some of my earliest memories of Rhody hoops are watching him and the 88 team!)

He has zero experience?

As of June 2019 he had no coaching experience, forgive me if something changed in the last 10 months but I’m pretty sure it hasn’t. And don’t get me wrong, I love the guy, I just don’t see how this hire would make any sense.

Matt, I don’t know you, but thank you. I too, love Kenny. Have chatted with him before and after many games. But he would be a terrible hire.

[Running Ram]

to be clear Kenny Green didn't suggest anything about URI, at least per the original post by RIR, that was all us.

He only said he desires to get into college coaching and is doing what anyone would do by getting that word out.

[DeanDome88]

This whole thread is absurd. He has zero experience and we aren’t hiring. (For the record, I love Kenny and some of my earliest memories of Rhody hoops are watching him and the 88 team!)

He has zero experience?

As of June 2019 he had no coaching experience, forgive me if something changed in the last 10 months but I’m pretty sure it hasn’t. And don’t get me wrong, I love the guy, I just don’t see how this hire would make any sense.

I just viewed an old youtube video interviewing Kenny back in 2012 ,as of then he had worked as an assistant coach in Europe before becoming a head coach in Qatar. I do not know what his experience was from that point forward.

[Rhodyhooopz]

Our beloved TJ only had a few years of HS coaching when he was hired. Start Kenny in the same way they did TJ. Asst of basketball operations.

[Rhode_Island_Red]

Would he be willing to volunteer? Or maybe be a graduate assistant? Around 1980 Jack Kraft had a grad assistant named Fran Fraschilla.

[Running Ram]

Would he be willing to volunteer? Or maybe be a graduate assistant? Around 1980 Jack Kraft had a grad assistant named Fran Fraschilla.

Can you have people work with the players like that? Maybe only at practices and they work like consultants? Does anyone know the particulars about such things vis a vis NCAA rules et cetera?

[Rhody72]

I'm happy the Kenny is back in the USA.

[steviep123]

He has zero experience?

As of June 2019 he had no coaching experience, forgive me if something changed in the last 10 months but I’m pretty sure it hasn’t. And don’t get me wrong, I love the guy, I just don’t see how this hire would make any sense.

Matt, I don’t know you, but thank you. I too, love Kenny. Have chatted with him before and after many games. But he would be a terrible hire.

What makes you say he would be a terrible hire? The only thing we know about him as far as coaching is concerned is a lack of experience. We know little else to say if it would be great, terrible, or somewhere in between. Is your position that hiring anyone with so little experience is terrible?

[section(105)]

......can he teach big men?......any track record in that area of player development that people and stats can point to?......just asking.....

[DC_Rams]

As of June 2019 he had no coaching experience, forgive me if something changed in the last 10 months but I’m pretty sure it hasn’t. And don’t get me wrong, I love the guy, I just don’t see how this hire would make any sense.

Matt, I don’t know you, but thank you. I too, love Kenny. Have chatted with him before and after many games. But he would be a terrible hire.

What makes you say he would be a terrible hire? The only thing we know about him as far as coaching is concerned is a lack of experience. We know little else to say if it would be great, terrible, or somewhere in between. Is your position that hiring anyone with so little experience is terrible?

Terrible in that we don’t know if he can develop players, coach, scout, build/maintain relationships, etc...

No thanks.

[Rhodyhooopz]

Too Funny

who on on current staff is "building / maintaining relationships" now? As 13 players walk out he door in the last two years. That might be the funniest thing I have heard since this outbreak has happened.

[theblueram]

Too Funny

who on on current staff is "building / maintaining relationships" now? As 13 players walk out he door in the last two years. That might be the funniest thing I have heard since this outbreak has happened.

I would say it's comical but it's funny and painful at the same time.

[Running Ram]

Careful DC, the real KG is beloved by many around here, Can maybe we agree it would be a risky hire instead of terrible? also I'll point out again it's members of the board that are speculating about URI, Kenny G is just trying to get the word out that he would like a shot at coaching somewhere in the cbb world.

[DC_Rams]

Too Funny

who on on current staff is "building / maintaining relationships" now? As 13 players walk out he door in the last two years. That might be the funniest thing I have heard since this outbreak has happened.

That’s all you got from my post huh? Smh

[DC_Rams]

Careful DC, the real KG is beloved by many around here, Can maybe we agree it would be a risky hire instead of terrible? also I'll point out again it's members of the board that are speculating about URI, Kenny G is just trying to get the word out that he would like a shot at coaching somewhere in the cbb world.

I’ve sat next to the guy at games. I love him. I’m sorry, you’re right though, it would be extremely risky.

[rhodylocal]

https://web.uri.edu/artsci/news/cleanin ... ck-to-uri/

[rhodylocal]

https://www.yurview.com/uri-rams/uri-fa ... nny-green/

[Matt Keebler]

I’ll adjust my previous statement, no collegiate experience. He’s a nice guy, but this would be a bad hire. Should we be looking at Luther Clay or Michael Anderson because they were also successful post players here? No, if we were hiring a coach, which we are not, we should look for the best experienced candidate. And it isn’t fair to compare him to TJ, TJ was a recent graduate who was hired to a lower level, low salary position and has done a fantastic job working his way up. Kenny has been out of school for 30 years, you can’t possibly compare the two.

[DeanDome88]

I'm a little perplexed that while we do not even have an opening people would want to run down the qualifications of Kenny Green to be a college basketball coach. Bless your hearts.

[Rhode_Island_Red]

I’ll adjust my previous statement, no collegiate experience. He’s a nice guy, but this would be a bad hire. Should we be looking at Luther Clay or Michael Anderson because they were also successful post players here? No, if we were hiring a coach, which we are not, we should look for the best experienced candidate. And it isn’t fair to compare him to TJ, TJ was a recent graduate who was hired to a lower level, low salary position and has done a fantastic job working his way up. Kenny has been out of school for 30 years, you can’t possibly compare the two.

Actually, Mike would be an interesting case. He could barely walk and chew gum at the same time as a freshman. By his senior year, he had become a competent center. He was having his way with Ruben (The Thug) Garces until Garces sucker-punched him that night at the Dunkin Dump. What did he learn, what drills did he do, what techniques were shown him that he could pass on to someone else?

[Running Ram]

I guess I'll just do this daily until it sinks in deep...

Green suggested he is looking to get into coaching at the cbb level and asked someone he thought might have knowledge or ideas for him to think about it. Any talk of him being hired at URI at this time is all about us fans. No one thinks it would be wise to place a novice in the spot next to the head coach, but some here think KG has potential and want to see him realize that potential somewhere. FULL STOP.

[Cameron_Dollar]

This thread is actually repulsive. You are taking arguably one of the 10 greatest players that have put on our uniform and minimizing him over a random conservation he had with one poster. If he was seriously seeking out a coaching position he has many resources which he could utilize in the way of former coaches (Tom Penders and Al Skinner are still well connected), teammates and competitors. He doesn't need people on this board, myself included to cast judgement on him. He was a warrior on the court; also a gifted shot blocker, rebounder and could score at will. He also did it most of the time on one leg. I'd say he knows the game pretty well. Let's leave it at that. While this is a fan forum where opinions are shared, no one that has the right disparage anyone personally, especially someone that contributed so greatly to our program.

[RhodeIslandRams]

Update:

Guys I only asked where I could send Kenny to look if we knew anything. It was NOT meant to suggest URI hire him.
Geez corona getting to some of you?

Ok, how about this: would someone be kind enough to post a link to vids of Kenny playing?

Syracuse or anything at all. Gilvydas Biruta has never seen Kenny play.

[Matt Keebler]

Repulsive? I said he has no experience, which is true. I loved him as a player here, I was only saying that as an assistant coach hire he probably wasn’t the best choice.

[Running Ram]

Here's the deal with this vid, it's origin is a VHS with tracking issues, the first 10 minutes or so of the video is practically unwatchable but Green was the sixth man of course so you don't miss any of his PT.

This team was the best Rhody team in my lifetime bar none.

Rhody had 4 turnovers and 18 assists in a win over Syracuse to get to the sweet sixteen, let that sink in, 4 turnovers. Syracuse had three major NBA talents on that team. Penders only played six players, starters and Green. Every player for Rhody was confident, finished well, shot open shots without hesitation, great positioning and spacing, rebounding. Never mind the stars who were awesome, John Evans would be an all A10 candidate if he was playing currently. It was a really fun team to watch.

Greens stats in this game were: 23 pts 6 rbs, 1 ast, 1 stl, 2 blks and 1 to in 30 minutes, on a bum knee in their second game in as many days. The commentators talk about how Rony Seikaly and Derrick Coleman couldn't stop Green and how Penders took advantage of it.

[Ramulous]

The greatest game in the history of the University of Rhode Island.

[Rhody72]

Can he recruit? If yes, take him; if no, suggest a lower level.

[NYGFan_Section208]

Can he recruit? If yes, take him; if no, suggest a lower level.

Can he teach a big to make a layup? If so, sign him up.

[bigappleram]

That 88 team was so dam good. So many pros in that game. For context for the younger fans, that Rhody team IMO would have beaten this year's Dayton team by double digits. 3 bona fide stars - Owens, Garrick and Green and 3 excellent role players - Colson, Evans, Sina.

[SmartyBarrett]

Another game from that season.

[reef]

We should don those throwback uniforms some time