Major NCAA Recruiting FBI Investigation

Ramulous · Unread post by **Ramulous** » 5 years ago

I have a Preston story....we were recruiting a kid from the midwest.....Preston was the lead.......we fell out of the running because it turns out the kid wanted some sort of economic inducement...Preston told me that we don't do that here.....kid went to Dayton.....

.....maybe getting to Creighton changed the dynamic....Preston may have to take the fall for the program.....

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 5 years ago

woodennickel1 wrote: ↑5 years ago
rambone 78 wrote: ↑5 years ago Sad to hear this....of course Preston is likely to be made a scapegoat...….

Rod would have been very unhappy to hear this news.
Really!! Did you read the part where he has had a lengthy relationship with Dawkins? Obviously he knew exactly what he was doing and will get his due reward. I liked Preston Murphy also and was bamboozled into thinking he was this great recruiter. Jordan Hare definitely makes sense now. Still would like to think EC Mathews was not involved in any way as he seemed like really nice kid but probably just being naive.

Whoa. Jump to wild conclusions much? Nothing but crazy speculation and absolutely no evidence to support it. Your black and white perspective has clouded and infected your judgment.

I highly doubt that Murphy somehow got the funds to induce players at URI. URI flies coach to and from the A-10 Tournament bringing the championship trophy through the airport security checkout line. It is known for doing things on the cheap with money always hard to come by. I thefore highly doubt that Murphy was paying people off. If URI could not even adequately pay its staff (Skerry/Murphy/Murray/etc...), it certainly would not have the money for players. Anyone speculating otherwise is not living in the real world. It is not URI that lives in a world where it can spend $30M on a practice facility to pamper its players.

Murphy chased the big bucks of the Big East and apparently played by its rules and appears to have got caught and burnt.

woodennickel1 · Unread post by **woodennickel1** » 5 years ago

RF1 wrote: ↑5 years ago
woodennickel1 wrote: ↑5 years ago
rambone 78 wrote: ↑5 years ago Sad to hear this....of course Preston is likely to be made a scapegoat...….

Rod would have been very unhappy to hear this news.
Really!! Did you read the part where he has had a lengthy relationship with Dawkins? Obviously he knew exactly what he was doing and will get his due reward. I liked Preston Murphy also and was bamboozled into thinking he was this great recruiter. Jordan Hare definitely makes sense now. Still would like to think EC Mathews was not involved in any way as he seemed like really nice kid but probably just being naive.
Whoa. Jump to wild conclusions much? Nothing but crazy speculation and absolutely no evidence to support it. Your black and white perspective has clouded and infected your judgment.

I highly doubt that Murphy somehow got the funds to induce players at URI. URI flies coach to and from the A-10 Tournament bringing the championship trophy through the airport security checkout line. It is known for doing things on the cheap with money always hard to come by. I thefore highly doubt that Murphy was paying people off. If URI could not even adequately pay its staff (Skerry/Murphy/Murray/etc...), it certainly would not have the money for players. Anyone speculating otherwise is not living in the real world. It is not URI that lives in a world where it can spend $30M on a practice facility to pamper its players.

Murphy chased the big bucks of the Big East and apparently played by its rules and appears to have got caught and burnt.

Uh think it has already been documented the money came from Dawkins and the sneaker companys. Preston is caught weather you like it or not. If you think Dawkins woke up one day while Preston was at Creighton and decided to be dirty that's your prerogative No one from the Big East has been implicated just Preston so take off the keaney blues.
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adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 5 years ago

woodennickel1 wrote: ↑5 years ago No one from the Big East has been implicated just Preston so take off the keaney blues.

Isn't Creighton in the Big East?

woodennickel1 · Unread post by **woodennickel1** » 5 years ago

adam914 wrote: ↑5 years ago
woodennickel1 wrote: ↑5 years ago No one from the Big East has been implicated just Preston so take off the keaney blues.
Isn't Creighton in the Big East?

Preston is the only one that has been implicated.He was obviously doing it without the knowledge of the head coach or anyone else same as the assistant at TCU. I also think if he was doing it URI Hurley knew nothing of it . It's all on him It seems

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 5 years ago

That’s the key point. Whether this kind of thing is beneath URI ethically (I’d like to think it is, but so would every fan like to think that of their program), the reality is that we just don’t have the resources to play this game, for better or worse, and we certainly aren’t the type of program that a shoe company cares enough about to spend money helping - and we definitely weren’t even close to that at the the time Preston was recruiting EC and Hare.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 5 years ago

woodennickel1 wrote: ↑5 years ago
adam914 wrote: ↑5 years ago
woodennickel1 wrote: ↑5 years ago No one from the Big East has been implicated just Preston so take off the keaney blues.
Isn't Creighton in the Big East?

Preston is the only one that has been implicated.He was obviously doing it without the knowledge of the head coach or anyone else same as the assistant at TCU.

So Preston's not in the Big East? Please help me understand how "no one from the Big East has been implicated". When a coach from the Big East has been implicated.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 5 years ago

I ain’t tossing no rocks here till I know what the rocks will hit.

Suggest Friartown take the same approach.

We’ve all had some smelly fish no?

Looks like some Feds are on a mission. It’s probably about time.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 5 years ago

adam914 wrote: ↑5 years ago
woodennickel1 wrote: ↑5 years ago
adam914 wrote: ↑5 years ago

Isn't Creighton in the Big East?

Preston is the only one that has been implicated.He was obviously doing it without the knowledge of the head coach or anyone else same as the assistant at TCU.
So Preston's not in the Big East? Please help me understand how "no one from the Big East has been implicated". When a coach from the Big East has been implicated.

Some people never let the facts get in the way.

woodennickel1 · Unread post by **woodennickel1** » 5 years ago

adam914 wrote: ↑5 years ago
woodennickel1 wrote: ↑5 years ago
adam914 wrote: ↑5 years ago

Isn't Creighton in the Big East?

Preston is the only one that has been implicated.He was obviously doing it without the knowledge of the head coach or anyone else same as the assistant at TCU.
So Preston's not in the Big East? Please help me understand how "no one from the Big East has been implicated". When a coach from the Big East has been implicated.

Guess it is the same as the Louisville situation coach fired no probation for schoool.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 5 years ago

I blame myself for expecting a PC fan to be capable of forming a coherent thought.

SmartyBarrett · Unread post by **SmartyBarrett** » 5 years ago

adam914 wrote: ↑5 years ago
woodennickel1 wrote: ↑5 years ago
adam914 wrote: ↑5 years ago

Isn't Creighton in the Big East?

Preston is the only one that has been implicated.He was obviously doing it without the knowledge of the head coach or anyone else same as the assistant at TCU.
So Preston's not in the Big East? Please help me understand how "no one from the Big East has been implicated". When a coach from the Big East has been implicated.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

adam914 wrote: ↑5 years ago I blame myself for expecting a PC fan to be capable of forming a coherent thought.

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bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 5 years ago

woodennickel1 wrote: ↑5 years ago
adam914 wrote: ↑5 years ago
woodennickel1 wrote: ↑5 years ago No one from the Big East has been implicated just Preston so take off the keaney blues.
Isn't Creighton in the Big East?

Preston is the only one that has been implicated.He was obviously doing it without the knowledge of the head coach or anyone else same as the assistant at TCU. I also think if he was doing it URI Hurley knew nothing of it . It's all on him It seems

How was he obviously doing it without knowledge of the head coach? Put me in the camp that 95% or more of these actions are done with the approval or direction of the head coach, aka The Boss. Yes there may be exceptions where in a couple cases an assistant went rogue, but knowing how controlling and micro managing most head coaches are and how getting caught would put an entire program in jeopardy there is little to no evidence that the HC's didn't know exactly what was going on. They just had intermediaries, like a mob boss would, to create some separation from the nefarious conduct. To think otherwise is ridiculous.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

Bilas eondersxshy it took LSU so long to act on Wade

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

Smith comments

woodennickel1 · Unread post by **woodennickel1** » 5 years ago

bigappleram wrote: ↑5 years ago
woodennickel1 wrote: ↑5 years ago
adam914 wrote: ↑5 years ago

Isn't Creighton in the Big East?

Preston is the only one that has been implicated.He was obviously doing it without the knowledge of the head coach or anyone else same as the assistant at TCU. I also think if he was doing it URI Hurley knew nothing of it . It's all on him It seems
How was he obviously doing it without knowledge of the head coach? Put me in the camp that 95% or more of these actions are done with the approval or direction of the head coach, aka The Boss. Yes there may be exceptions where in a couple cases an assistant went rogue, but knowing how controlling and micro managing most head coaches are and how getting caught would put an entire program in jeopardy there is little to no evidence that the HC's didn't know exactly what was going on. They just had intermediaries, like a mob boss would, to create some separation from the nefarious conduct. To think otherwise is ridiculous.

Think I said I also thought if he was doing it at URI Hurley knew nothing of it.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 5 years ago

https://es.pn/2SWt0Iq

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 5 years ago

TruePoint wrote: ↑5 years ago https://es.pn/2SWt0Iq

SEC. Their fans view things differently than most - if you are not cheating, you are not trying enough.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 5 years ago

Not going to dump it but also going to cut it off there. Let’s just leave the politics aside since we’ve already proven we can’t handle discussing it like grown ups.

I think RF1 was spot on.

Taylor Swift · Unread post by **Taylor Swift** » 5 years ago

Parents can be guilty too. Apparently making up fake athletic profiles for their kids. Moronic! What will Uncle Jesse think of Becky now.

BleedBlue87 · Unread post by **BleedBlue87** » 5 years ago

It would be great if this investigation cleans up college ball and makes it more equitable but I think I have a better chance of winning the lottery.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 5 years ago

I dumped the posts. Second straight day I’ve had to do this. Those involved have been asked to show restraint.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 5 years ago

Gordie Ernst from Cranston and the URI tennis coach involved in this not good

Taylor Swift · Unread post by **Taylor Swift** » 5 years ago

reef wrote: ↑5 years ago Gordie Ernst from Cranston and the URI tennis coach involved in this not good

Placed on administrative leave and it was for stuff he did at G’Town. Didn’t have any Rhody signees or recruits.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

Is he related to Vinnie?

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 5 years ago

Haha imagine if some dumb rich person tried to pay a six figure bribe to someone to get their kid into URI? Projo headline would have you believe it!

The fun thing about this scandal is how sure you can be that working class URI would not be involved at all. Oops.

Rhode_Island_Red · Unread post by **Rhode_Island_Red** » 5 years ago

When I first read about this, the headline mentioned something about URI and I had a moment of perverse pride -- URI one of the elite schools the rich and famous were buying their way into? -- but then I read the story. Has that hideous, disgusting institution in the mental hospital been mentioned?

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

Who would want to go there Red? lol

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 5 years ago

Rhode_Island_Red wrote: ↑5 years ago When I first read about this, the headline mentioned something about URI and I had a moment of perverse pride -- URI one of the elite schools the rich and famous were buying their way into? -- but then I read the story. Has that hideous, disgusting institution in the mental hospital been mentioned?

Lol no. As unlikely as anyone is to pay a bribe to get into URI, can you imagine someone bribing their way into PC? I feel like the whole reason people pay bribes to get into schools is because if these rich buffoons are going to pay an amount equal to a modest mortgage for their failchildren to go to college, it sure as better be to somewhere better than PC. PC is where rich dummies whose parents couldn’t figure out who to bribe end up.

Rhodyram · Unread post by **Rhodyram** » 5 years ago

TruePoint wrote: ↑5 years ago Haha imagine if some dumb rich person tried to pay a six figure bribe to someone to get their kid into URI? Projo headline would have you believe it!

The fun thing about this scandal is how sure you can be that working class URI would not be involved at all. Oops.

Gordie is known throughout RI for his excellence in high school hockey/tennis and after that Brown University. His time as the tennis coach at URI is a blip. I was surprised that URI is what was included in the headlines

URIRecruitingInfo · Unread post by **URIRecruitingInfo** » 5 years ago

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 5 years ago

But wait, there’s more-

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 5 years ago

Whoa! Creepy porn lawyer surfaces again!?!?!?
I don't get it though...is he breaking a news story, or IS he the story?

SmartyBarrett · Unread post by **SmartyBarrett** » 5 years ago

Life comes at you fast.

ElmCityRhody · Unread post by **ElmCityRhody** » 5 years ago

CLOWN !

bahahahahahahahahaha

tweeted then 15 mins later arrested !

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 5 years ago

ace wrote: ↑5 years ago But wait, there’s more-

Avennati is a Grade 1 doofus and seems like an overall slimy guy. But I am curious to know what the government is alleging here in terms of how it is different than a typical situation where an attorney presents a potential defendant in a civil matter with the threat of legal action (which would presumably be a matter of public record except in rare circumstances) and outlines the terms of what it would take to settle the matter and allow the potential defendant to save face. That’s obviously a pretty typical scenario, so is the government alleging that the threat was so baseless as to constitute naked extortion? (It seems like that’s what they’d have to be alleging, because plaintiff’s attorneys seem to get a pretty long leash on this stuff normally - don’t recall another example where a plaintiff’s attorney was charged with a federal crime even for the threat of the most frivolous lawsuit.)

For the record, I’d be willing to believe Avennati is capable of basically anything the government may assert here, more just genuinely curious.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 5 years ago

Things are getting real stormy.

Micheal_Phelps_22 · Unread post by **Micheal_Phelps_22** » 5 years ago

RF1 wrote: ↑5 years ago Things are getting real stormy.

well played

Rhode_Island_Red · Unread post by **Rhode_Island_Red** » 5 years ago

Meanwhile, what are the odds LSU forfeits games?

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 5 years ago

TruePoint wrote: ↑5 years ago
ace wrote: ↑5 years ago But wait, there’s more-

Avennati is a Grade 1 doofus and seems like an overall slimy guy. But I am curious to know what the government is alleging here in terms of how it is different than a typical situation where an attorney presents a potential defendant in a civil matter with the threat of legal action (which would presumably be a matter of public record except in rare circumstances) and outlines the terms of what it would take to settle the matter and allow the potential defendant to save face. That’s obviously a pretty typical scenario, so is the government alleging that the threat was so baseless as to constitute naked extortion? (It seems like that’s what they’d have to be alleging, because plaintiff’s attorneys seem to get a pretty long leash on this stuff normally - don’t recall another example where a plaintiff’s attorney was charged with a federal crime even for the threat of the most frivolous lawsuit.)

For the record, I’d be willing to believe Avennati is capable of basically anything the government may assert here, more just genuinely curious.

Uh yup, pretty much naked extortion and fraud according to WSJ:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/attorney-a ... 61bd7a1ce6

URIRecruitingInfo · Unread post by **URIRecruitingInfo** » 5 years ago

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

Miller and Wade are h-i-s-t-o-r-y.

SmartyBarrett · Unread post by **SmartyBarrett** » 5 years ago

Interesting read.

URIRecruitingInfo · Unread post by **URIRecruitingInfo** » 5 years ago

2019 March Madness: Four coaches with past NCAA transgressions converge in Midwest Regional

https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... -regional/

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 5 years ago

Maybe this goes here?

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... aa-meeting

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

My favorite comment from the LSU AD.
“Coach Wade's explanations and clarifications offered during the meeting, absent actual evidence of misconduct, satisfy his contractual obligation to LSU."

Now if that isn’t a ringing endorsement I don’t know what is.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 5 years ago

^That was the funniest part, I thought.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

Wade said he didn't actually mean what he said on the taps....OK sure.

Someone has said before that the NCAA will do nothing about any of this...and it's beginning to look like it's true.

They will all get off scot free.

rhodyruckus · Unread post by **rhodyruckus** » 5 years ago

I mean, if UNC suffered no consequences due to the academic misconduct just because "it was available to the rest of the student body," I can't exactly believe ANY misconduct will be properly punished at LSU or ANYWHERE else.

I'm sure this can be covered by the same rationale because the top academic prospects are bribed by the university's professors?

The NCAA needs a colonoscopy.