Rhody and A10 in the Top 25 Polls: 2016-17

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 8 years ago

Anyone saying they don't care about being ranked is lying.

Being ranked gets us Sportscenter highlights, on the bottom line, helps market the team, etc, etc. Plus it's always easier to stay ranked, then get ranked, especially when we have minimal opportunities for big wins.

Blue Man · Unread post by **Blue Man** » 8 years ago

Rhody15 wrote:Anyone saying they don't care about being ranked is lying.

Being ranked gets us Sportscenter highlights, on the bottom line, helps market the team, etc, etc. Plus it's always easier to stay ranked, then get ranked, especially when we have minimal opportunities for big wins.

I don't think anyone is saying they don't care. Of course you would rather be ranked. What I think a few of us are saying is that freaking out over largely subjective polls not even a month into the season is dumb. If you just win games the ranking takes care of itself.

Last night we proved we're not a top 25 team yet. We would need to roll off our next 5 to wind up in the top 30, honestly we'd need to beat Dayton to get back into it.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 8 years ago

Kevin Mac had UCLA the highest of any of the 65 Voters in the Preseason Vote at #7. Overall in Preseason UCLA was #16. Kevin's Vote was categorized as "Extreme" since it was more then 5 positions from the Final Vote. He was the most Extreme on the high side.

Kevin Mac UCLA Voting
Preseason - 7th
Week 2 - 8th
Week 3 - 7th
Week 4 - 6th
Week 5 - 2nd

Lonzo Ball is amazing. Watching UCLA play Michigan yesterday was very entertaining. UCLA passes the ball so quickly and well.
They have gone from a 15-17 team last year with a lot of HC criticism to now 10-0 and ranked #2.
Have to also give Kevin Mac credit for being reluctant to put URI in the Top 25. In the end he was unfortunately right, at least up to now.

http://www.espn.com/blog/collegebasketb ... -fun-again

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

We do not pass the eye test, in any way......yes he was right.......

If you are infering that DH can turn it around with the right players I don't know what to tell you......way too many issues

Running Ram · Unread post by **Running Ram** » 8 years ago

Yup, that's the best (sarcasm) thing about losing 3 winnable road games, KMac was right after all, which only makes us look as pathetic as ever, whining about his vote seems very silly at this point.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

Not too worry RR, we won't be seeing the top 25 again, this season or any other season for a while......the fraud that is URI basketball has finally been exposed for all to see.......

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 8 years ago

UCLA? Really?
Steve Alford has taken FOUR schools to the NCAAs,
and has gone to THREE Sweet 16s.
NINE NCAAs.
He has a record of accomplishment, despite any criticism.
UCLA fans expect everyone to be the new John Wooden.
Some good coaches have succeeded Wooden, and none lasted.
Only one got an NCAA Championship.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 8 years ago

Running Ram wrote:Yup, that's the best (sarcasm) thing about losing 3 winnable road games, KMac was right after all, which only makes us look as pathetic as ever, whining about his vote seems very silly at this point.

Yes, he was right on URI at this point in time. But he was way off on UCONN now 4-5 with losses to some bad teams. but even he did come around and eventually put put URI in the Top 25 so he is not completely right. But his best call out in front of everyone was UCLA.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 8 years ago

Yes I will give Lil Kevie some props there

We were definitely overrated and I bought into all the hype. I was duped and fell for it

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 8 years ago

ramster wrote:
Running Ram wrote:Yup, that's the best (sarcasm) thing about losing 3 winnable road games, KMac was right after all, which only makes us look as pathetic as ever, whining about his vote seems very silly at this point.
Yes, he was right on URI at this point in time. But he was way off on UCONN now 4-5 with losses to some bad teams. but even he did come around and eventually put put URI in the Top 25 so he is not completely right. But his best call out in front of everyone was UCLA.

He said we had to prove it to him by starting 4-0, which we did, and that next week he voted us 25th.

So he was spot on with everything.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 8 years ago

Nice to see Cinci keep their ranking after losing at Butler

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 8 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:UCLA? Really?
Steve Alford has taken FOUR schools to the NCAAs,
and has gone to THREE Sweet 16s.
NINE NCAAs.
He has a record of accomplishment, despite any criticism.
UCLA fans expect everyone to be the new John Wooden.
Some good coaches have succeeded Wooden, and none lasted.
Only one got an NCAA Championship.

Agree. Plus, they want John Wooden without Sam Gilbert. Where was Sam Gilbert on Saint John's "pyramid"?

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 8 years ago

Funny, Wooden was never investigated by the NCAA.
Gilbert bankrolled all kinds of behind the scenes items
for UCLA.
He always denied Gilbert's deep involvement, and was never challenged.
Ironic that Jim Harrick was fired for a dinner on his expense
report.

PlayMikeMotenMore · Unread post by **PlayMikeMotenMore** » 8 years ago

Let it go, Rod...let it go.

Harrick was slimy at UCLA.
Harrick was slimy at URI.
Harrick was slimy at UGA.

There's no denying it.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 8 years ago

I have to give Kevin Mac credit on Florida State. In Preseason Poll Kevin had FSU in his Top 25 when 42 of 65 pollsters did not. I would not have had FSU in my Top 25 preseason and I said that at the time.

FSU is now 12-1 and only 5 voters do not have them in their Top 25.

Sophomore Terance Mann with his best game of the year last night in a 8 point win over Samford to lead FSU going 7-8 FGs, 5-6 FTs, 5 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal and zero TOs for 19 points.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 7 years ago

VCU with 2 votes in the latest poll. That's about all.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 7 years ago

ramster wrote:I have to give Kevin Mac credit on Florida State. In Preseason Poll Kevin had FSU in his Top 25 when 42 of 65 pollsters did not. I would not have had FSU in my Top 25 preseason and I said that at the time.

FSU is now 12-1 and only 5 voters do not have them in their Top 25.

Sophomore Terance Mann with his best game of the year last night in a 8 point win over Samford to lead FSU going 7-8 FGs, 5-6 FTs, 5 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal and zero TOs for 19 points.

And their game against UVA was an awesome watch...great finish and great footage of the crowd. UVA hits the 3 to take the lead with under 10 seconds...UVA fans stand as one with arms in the air...FSU no timeout call...They hit a 3 with 2.2 seconds left to re-take the lead and all those arms in the air went to "slumping surrender cobras" in a flash. Now THAT is how you roadie!

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 7 years ago

FSU now ranked 12 AP

Just 2 weeks ago they were 200-1 to win it all now down to 50-1

Justns11 · Unread post by **Justns11** » 7 years ago

Did you guys see that URI got 13 votes in the final AP top 25 poll today? You know who was right behind them with 11 votes? Creighton.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 7 years ago

Justns11 wrote:Did you guys see that URI got 13 votes in the final AP top 25 poll today? You know who was right behind them with 11 votes? Creighton.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

Had not seen. Thanks for posting.
So we finished ranked 28th in AP behind Middle Tennessee and Minnesota

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 7 years ago

Good Ole Jonny Rothstein put us at 18 in his ballot so that got us up close to the cut-off line. He's crazy.

http://www.collegepolltracker.com/baske ... m/uri/2016

Blue Man · Unread post by **Blue Man** » 7 years ago

ATPTourFan wrote:Good Ole Jonny Rothstein put us at 18 in his ballot so that got us up close to the cut-off line. He's crazy.

http://www.collegepolltracker.com/baske ... m/uri/2016

He too worships at the altar of St. Hurley. He can drink from my canteen anytime.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 7 years ago

One last season ending poll usually comes out in the week after the NCAA Tournament is over (AP 03/14/16 ly). Will Rhody make the cut for the 2016-17 season? If so, they would have been on the initial preseason and postseason polls.

Rhodymob05 · Unread post by **Rhodymob05** » 7 years ago

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... gs-2017-18

Not even mentioned, Joe Lunardi can go F himself..again.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 7 years ago

Rhodymob05 wrote:http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... gs-2017-18

Not even mentioned, Joe Lunardi can go F himself..again.

What am I missing? Lunardi didn't write this

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 7 years ago

We are another good big man away from being considered for the top 25.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 7 years ago

RhowdyRam02 wrote:
Rhodymob05 wrote:http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... gs-2017-18

Not even mentioned, Joe Lunardi can go F himself..again.
What am I missing? Lunardi didn't write this

while you are right, Lunardi didn't write this, he's still an ass hat.

Rhodymob05 · Unread post by **Rhodymob05** » 7 years ago

Whoops! You're right, I'm thinking of the projected tourney bracket, which Joe is posting today.

Rhodymob05 · Unread post by **Rhodymob05** » 7 years ago

https://www.fanragsports.com/cbb/rothst ... 5-2017-18/

Can always trust Rhody Jon though.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 7 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:We are another good big man away from being considered for the top 25.

If you think that the people that make these lists are putting that much thought into it, then you are giving them way too much credit.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 7 years ago

RF1 wrote:One last season ending poll usually comes out in the week after the NCAA Tournament is over (AP 03/14/16 ly). Will Rhody make the cut for the 2016-17 season? If so, they would have been on the initial preseason and postseason polls.

Not sure about this. The last poll mid March is being called Final.

http://www.collegepolltracker.com/basketball/

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 7 years ago

Rhodymob05 wrote:https://www.fanragsports.com/cbb/rothst ... 5-2017-18/

Can always trust Rhody Jon though.

He left out Michael Tertsea as a Projected Bench player who I would not rule out as a potential starter next year - I wouldn't rule anybody Big Man out. I'll be surprised if we regularly play 4 Guards with Stanford at SF as Rothstein is predicting. This year we always played Iverson and Martin while subbing Langevine and sometimes Akele. The 2 Starting Big Men should be Langevine and a battle between Tertsea, Layssard and Akele, Possible Berry. Guys will be working hard this summer to gain a starting Big Man spot and maybe even putting pressure on Langevine. Competition is great when you have a team of virtually all 3-Start and 4-Star players.

Projected Bench: Daron “Fats” Russell, Nicola Akele, Mike Layssard, Jeff Dowtin, Christion Thompson

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 7 years ago

Not sure ramster if Dowtin is bench to start season.....could depend on JG's health.

A problem this team has is they have too many 2's, and not enough 3's......

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 7 years ago

Agree that it is very tough to see URI without Dowtin in the Starting Line Up.
Not sure who would not be in the starting 5, but to not have the 23 point scorer and leader from our 1st NCAA Tournament win this Century seems kind of hard to fathom.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 7 years ago

Against RPI Top 100 and A10 play Rhody will need two starting players over 6-5. Langevine will definitely be one. My guess is the other will be Akele or a JUCO/5th transfer. Jarvis and Stan will come off the bench. Two of the other big buys will spell the starters like Langevine and Akele did this year. Someone will get a decent amount of playing time because Langevine foul trouble. I,think Fatts will start taking time from Jarvis when the A10 season rolls around (he is the real deal).

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 7 years ago

ramster wrote:Agree that it is very tough to see URI without Dowtin in the Starting Line Up.
Not sure who would not be in the starting 5, but to not have the 23 point scorer and leader from our 1st NCAA Tournament win this Century seems kind of hard to fathom.

If you play that out, though, Stan Robinson's game against Oregon was about as impressive as Jeff's game against Creighton. I agree with you that Jeff is probably the assumed starter right now and heading into next season, but his point total in one game cannot be the logic for it. Everyone knows I love Stan and think he is a starting caliber player, also, but realistically you cannot start everyone. Whether Jeff or Jarvis starts the game, both will get plenty of time on the floor.

Ramrod · Unread post by **Ramrod** » 7 years ago

Rhodymob05 wrote:https://www.fanragsports.com/cbb/rothst ... 5-2017-18/

Can always trust Rhody Jon though.

Stan really is your prototypical PF though, so you gotta agree with the man there...

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 7 years ago

TruePoint wrote:
ramster wrote:Agree that it is very tough to see URI without Dowtin in the Starting Line Up.
Not sure who would not be in the starting 5, but to not have the 23 point scorer and leader from our 1st NCAA Tournament win this Century seems kind of hard to fathom.
If you play that out, though, Stan Robinson's game against Oregon was about as impressive as Jeff's game against Creighton. I agree with you that Jeff is probably the assumed starter right now and heading into next season, but his point total in one game cannot be the logic for it. Everyone knows I love Stan and think he is a starting caliber player, also, but realistically you cannot start everyone. Whether Jeff or Jarvis starts the game, both will get plenty of time on the floor.

Yeah,
That's for sure not the only reason Dowtin might start. And maybe he doesn't but I'll trust my judgement over a guy who predicts us Top 25 right now after losing both starting big men. Plus leaves Tertsea completely off like he didn't even know he was on the team.
And I don't see us playing 4 guards. And to leave Tertsea off completely shows a lack of depth in Rothsteins ability to accurate project. Losing Iverson and Martin, two of the top rebounders, shot blocking and defensive specialists in the A10 will be tough to replace. I don't see us Top 25 starting 4 guards as this guy predicts and need to see how the big guys perform this summer and how they improve.

steveystuds06 · Unread post by **steveystuds06** » 7 years ago

No way we are top 25 with the roster we have right now. We also won't have this same roster when we start the season next year. Everyone knows this team needs a juco or grad to come in. If I'm a 4 or 5 looking for a team that will give me a starting job and a potential NCAA run I'd love to play with us.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 7 years ago

ATPTourFan wrote:
RF1 wrote:One last season ending poll usually comes out in the week after the NCAA Tournament is over (AP 03/14/16 ly). Will Rhody make the cut for the 2016-17 season? If so, they would have been on the initial preseason and postseason polls.
Not sure about this. The last poll mid March is being called Final.

http://www.collegepolltracker.com/basketball/

I might have confused the two polls. I found something about the USA Today Coaches Poll that makes it appear there is a last poll done after the NCAA Tourney:

Beginning in the 1993–94 basketball season, the Coaches Poll began publishing its final poll after the NCAA basketball tournament.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 7 years ago

I think both Stan and Jarvis both come off the bench

I also think we will see plenty of the 4 guard lineups

Rhodymob05 · Unread post by **Rhodymob05** » 7 years ago

I would definitely not mind testing the four guard lineup, but if our shooting is off..............

Paleoguy · Unread post by **Paleoguy** » 7 years ago

RF1 wrote:
ATPTourFan wrote:
RF1 wrote:One last season ending poll usually comes out in the week after the NCAA Tournament is over (AP 03/14/16 ly). Will Rhody make the cut for the 2016-17 season? If so, they would have been on the initial preseason and postseason polls.
Not sure about this. The last poll mid March is being called Final.

http://www.collegepolltracker.com/basketball/
I might have confused the two polls. I found something about the USA Today Coaches Poll that makes it appear there is a last poll done after the NCAA Tourney:

Beginning in the 1993–94 basketball season, the Coaches Poll began publishing its final poll after the NCAA basketball tournament.

Yes, that's correct. Last year, the final postseason USA Today/Coaches poll was released on 4/4/16, reflecting Villanova's victory:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... asontype/3

So, we should see a final USA Today/Coaches poll this year as well.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 7 years ago

I am not in the 4 guard line up camp. We just about always had 2 big men in the game from among Iverson, Martin, Langevine, Akele and Berry. If we didn't it might have been foul trouble or some unique situation. I know 4 guards was talked about but I can't remember ever seeing it.

If we go to 4 guards this year then it is because the guard depth is so great (we are adding Russell) and possibly also that they show the better team on the Court to be 4 guards and 1 big guy.

If that is the case then we are not very well balanced with big men and that will eventually catch up to us on defensive and offensive rebounding and in shot blocking

I think we need at least 2 Big men in the game at all times. Tertsea, Akele, Langevine, Layssard, Berry and possibly a 5th transfer or JUCO contributes but from among that group I would think 2 serviceable Big Men emerge - if they don't then I think we are vulnerable in Post Season.

I agree our Guards are our strength, but that was also said before this season and Martin and Iverson and Langevine really became a strength of this team - more so than most might have thought preseason.

I'm 3 Guards, 2 Bigs or bust

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 7 years ago

I don't really care for the 4 guard lineup either but I think we will see it a lot more next year .

We have a surplus of guards and they will all need minutes

Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 7 years ago

Pointless arguments until we see the results of Dan's spring recruiting efforts. That JC forward would make a huge difference.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 7 years ago

Rhodymob05 wrote:http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... gs-2017-18

Not even mentioned, Joe Lunardi can go F himself..again.

Eamonn Brennon has never been too impressed with us.

He has VCU in the honorable mentions and not us...
RUBBISH

EGram · Unread post by **EGram** » 7 years ago

Yeah anyone having VCU above us is a joke. They were an NIT quality team last year that was lucky to make the tourney and is facing far bigger losses than URI. Look at our losses compared to teams like VCU and Dayton and it's no comparison.

I don't see our losses as massive imo. Cyril playing more minutes should cover a decent part of the bigs issue but like others said we really need someone to step up or grab a viable big with the last scholarship.

I disagree that Iverson is some massive hole that will be hard to fill. His tendency to waste possessions with his lousy 3 point shooting and of course his awful tendency for boneheaded plays ( Think the outlet pass turnover that nearly cost us the Davidson game, or his inbound pass to the ref in the A10 tourney just to name a couple!). Akele's per minute stats were actually very solid and I suspect we can get equivalent or better production from his minutes next year.

Lastly guys like Robinson, Matthews, Terrell, and Jarvis are all guys who are strong breakout candidates and I fully expect one of them to be a good shooter next year. At worse the already good guard group should be improved. If one of our guards suddenly can go from a 15-17PER guy to a 20-25PER that would likely be worth 2-3 wins alone.

Right now i'd say this should be a top 25 team. Remember other schools don't have the entire roster fleshed out either.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 7 years ago

Right now I would say the X factors for this team to be top 25 are 1. Continued improvement from Stan and Cyril. 2. What are we going to get from Tertsea and ML? 3. Any addition that Dan can bring in, as in JC's, and 5th years.

Paleoguy · Unread post by **Paleoguy** » 7 years ago

Here is the final USA Today/Coaches postseason poll. Rhody received some votes, but not enough to make the top 25.....

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings