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rodfromcranston wrote:PC also has a very fine recruiting class coming in.
I think as long as Cooley is coach, he'll have a
decent team.
I believe on paper this would be PCs least heralded class in the Cooley era?

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bigappleram wrote:If PC loses Dunn I would NOT count on them being a Top 100 opponent.
The idea that the BE finished as the #2 RPI conference just shows how badly flawed RPI is as a metric.
And you base this on what?

They have a winning record against every conference they've played including 7-2 vs the ACC. So far four teams in the round of 32 with a chance at two more today. They have the number one seed in the East and while Nova could stumble, they could on a good day give Kentucky a run. I think the ranking looks pretty solid.
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The new big least handled their business this year, I'm not sure what it has to do with RPI but they showed up to play and probably are a top two conference this time around.
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Rhody83 wrote: For next year Rhody needs to eliminate Pace, UMass Lowell, Delaware St, Detroit and add one game.
Richmond's three OOCs vs Top 50 were all away games. Their OOCs vs 51-100 were all at home except 1 neutral site game. Rhody will have to play Top 50 away to start.
We all know that scheduling isn't an exact science. The four schools I listed to eliminate were known as weak. There is obvious a margin from year-to-year. The suggestion is to be in a range next year. I don't think anyone is questioning Dan or this year's schedule. No one second guessed Nebraska. Those things are going to happen. Other teams in our conference schedule higher rated OOC so we can do it also. We know you can't do anything about early tournament opponents. Hopefully, Rhidy get two good opponents in the Cancun part of the tournament.

Use the 6 OOC games available to play 3 teams projected to be in the Top 50 and 3 teams projected to be 50-75. That is doable. We may need to play more road games but it is worth it.
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In terms of balance, they are a Top 2 or 3 no matter how you slice. ACC and Big 12 both have more muscle at the top and a lot more exposure so the perception is a bigger disparity.
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Only the top matters. Who cares whose 7th best team is better?
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Every one appreciates thoughtful analysis and not just being a "homer". To suggest that because a conference goes 4-0 in the first round makes them superior ignores complexity as the seeding issue clearly shows. Why did Georgetown merit a 4 seed and get the chance to play a one bid conference team, when Dayton got a 11 seed and also had to face a tough opponent in play-in game. Georgetown seeding places them in the top 16 teams and they do not merit that. And if that is not enough, you have PC fans whining about Dayton's unfair advantage in playing in Columbus.
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I've heard more people this week complain about playing Dayton (even though they had a play-in game) in Ohio than I've ever heard people complain about playing Duke in NC.
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Why not play Iona's schedule next year. 3 games against Manhattan, 2 against Canisius, throw in St Peters Paul and Mary. We would be a top 50 RPI team. Don't even need to beat a top 100 rpi team at all. Why bother scheduling them.
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Once Dan & staff get back to Kingston, it is time to start putting together a decent OOC schedule. Need six more games to get to allowable 31.

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Don't look for schedule help in being part of the doubleheader with the ACC at the Barclays Center next season (was part of the agreement to move the tourney for the ACC). Rumors are that the two games next season will be:

Boston College-Fordham
Wake Forest-GW

As expected, only the crap ACC teams are participating. Not a very good deal for the A-10.
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Didn't expect anything different.
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That's crap, and why would the Barclay's Center not want higher profile ACC and A10 teams? I understand Fordham as they are local, but that would be the only reason for them.

They should want the Dukes, Virginias, NC States vs. the top of the A10. Win win for everyone, even the ACC.

How many years does this ACC-A10 matchup exist?
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I read on another message board that URI and UMass will be playing a doubleheader at the TD Garden with URI drawing Kentucky. This is a rumor and I can't say one way or another how accurate the rumor is, but I figured it was worth passing it along.
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Now that's a rumor that would be great. I hope are fans "travel well" to Boston.
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If I'm understanding the schedule and format correctly, in the second part of the Cancun Challenge, Rhode Island will play TCU and then either Illinois State-Maryland.
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RhowdyRam02 wrote:I read on another message board that URI and UMass will be playing a doubleheader at the TD Garden with URI drawing Kentucky. This is a rumor and I can't say one way or another how accurate the rumor is, but I figured it was worth passing it along.

That might actually make some sense. UMass-Amherst is not playing Boston College next year as they have at the Garden the last two seasons. They have typically played an opponent there most recent years (played a game vs Memphis a few years back that Cal had set up before leaving) but don't draw particularly well on their own. A doubleheader with another local team might help drive attendance making it cost effective. Given their connections to Cal at Kentucky and Bjorn at URI, this is not completely unthinkable. Cal may even prefer not to play his former team and have a different opponent. Would love this to happen. Rhody however might get a deal like PC (Brooklyn/Lexington) did where a return date is back in Lexington. A game at the Garden in Boston might even draw more Rhody fans than the Oklahoma State game at Mohegan Sun a few years back.
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I'm all for good OOC opponents, but do we really want Kentucky?
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Billyboy78 wrote:I'm all for good OOC opponents, but do we really want Kentucky?
Yes, yes we do.
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A "home" [Boston] and home with Kentucky, would be the best we could ever hope to get.

Make it happen, Dan!

This would never have happened just a short time ago.
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Kentucky? Absolutely!!! Even if we don't win, it will be great experience and certainly put us on the map nationally.
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RhowdyRam02 wrote:I read on another message board that URI and UMass will be playing a doubleheader at the TD Garden with URI drawing Kentucky. This is a rumor and I can't say one way or another how accurate the rumor is, but I figured it was worth passing it along.

Where did you read this?
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Billyboy78 wrote:I'm all for good OOC opponents, but do we really want Kentucky?
Yes. Absolutely. It's a great measuring stick game, they're a prestige opponent pretty every year, the game will probably be on national TV, etc.
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It helped PC earlier this season.

It would help us as well.

Now, let's get a game vs. UConn at Mohegan. Even a home and home, with ours at Mohegan, would work.

Ollie has shown interest in playing us, but old fart Calhoun is still being paid a measly 500K a year to be an "advisor" to the program, so as long as he's there, it's not happening.

As for the doubleheader in Boston, UMass would likely play another big name program too.

Would be a great deal for us. We would get a few thousand up there for that one.
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RF1 wrote:
RhowdyRam02 wrote:I read on another message board that URI and UMass will be playing a doubleheader at the TD Garden with URI drawing Kentucky. This is a rumor and I can't say one way or another how accurate the rumor is, but I figured it was worth passing it along.

Where did you read this?
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I'm for playing Kentucky especially if Ashley Judd shows up.!!
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Hey, we wanted better OOC opponents, might as well start with the best!
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Might be able to beat them next year. They'll lose a lot after this year.
I have doubts that'll happen though. Pretty vague rumor. Hope so!
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PeterRamTime wrote:Might be able to beat them next year. They'll lose a lot after this year.
I have doubts that'll happen though. Pretty vague rumor. Hope so!
And as usual, they have two 5 stars and one 4 star coming in and are still in on a few more of the same.
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If Cal doesn't bolt to the NBA, they will have plenty next year.

They don't rebuild, they reload. The pressure to win there is greater than anywhere else.

It's like the Yankees. Either win the WS, or the year is a failure.

At Kentucky, anything less than a national title simply won't do.
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PeterRamTime wrote:Might be able to beat them next year. They'll lose a lot after this year.
I have doubts that'll happen though. Pretty vague rumor. Hope so!
You are joking right? Kentucky reloads every year with All-Americans.
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On URI/UMass double header, source for the venue says "we are trying...stay tuned." Nothing official, but in the works for sure.
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PeterRamTime wrote:Might be able to beat them next year. They'll lose a lot after this year.
I have doubts that'll happen though. Pretty vague rumor. Hope so!
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RhowdyRam02 wrote:
RF1 wrote:
RhowdyRam02 wrote:I read on another message board that URI and UMass will be playing a doubleheader at the TD Garden with URI drawing Kentucky. This is a rumor and I can't say one way or another how accurate the rumor is, but I figured it was worth passing it along.

Where did you read this?
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Got it:

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/86755-20 ... ist/page-2


Saw that you inquired about this on the UMass Board as well:

http://www.umasshoops.com/newboard/view ... =1&t=14416


The reply to your post might have some logic. UMass just announced on 03-04-15 that Calipari will be honored next year for the 20th anniversary of the Final-4* appearance. A jersey for Cal will be retired some time next year at a date to be announced later.

http://www.umassathletics.com/sports/m- ... 15aaa.html
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the pc board is reporting that we here are delusional if we think that Kentucky would lower themselves to play us........stick with playing Keene State...please
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UMass To Retire Basketball Jersey In Honor Of John Calipari
As part of a 20th anniversary celebration of the 1995-96 Final Four team, UMass will retire a jersey to honor John Calipari.

A week later, they'll have a second ceremony negating the first.
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RhowdyRam02 wrote:I read on another message board that URI and UMass will be playing a doubleheader at the TD Garden with URI drawing Kentucky. This is a rumor and I can't say one way or another how accurate the rumor is, but I figured it was worth passing it along.
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rambone 78 wrote:It helped PC earlier this season.

It would help us as well.

Now, let's get a game vs. UConn at Mohegan. Even a home and home, with ours at Mohegan, would work.

Ollie has shown interest in playing us, but old fart Calhoun is still being paid a measly 500K a year to be an "advisor" to the program, so as long as he's there, it's not happening.

As for the doubleheader in Boston, UMass would likely play another big name program too.

Would be a great deal for us. We would get a few thousand up there for that one.
I think a game at Mohegan vs. UConn would be great! But if it's going to be home and home, I want our home to be at the RC.
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steviep123 wrote:
RhowdyRam02 wrote:I read on another message board that URI and UMass will be playing a doubleheader at the TD Garden with URI drawing Kentucky. This is a rumor and I can't say one way or another how accurate the rumor is, but I figured it was worth passing it along.
Is that next season? I'm there if it happens!
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Melo Trimble is returning for his sophomore season to play with 5 star center Diamond Stone for Maryland. Those 2, plus Jake Layman, Jaylen Brantley and transfer Robert Carter from GT (former target of ours) will be a very tough matchup for us. I'd say they'll be preseason #2 in big 10, behind Mich St, and a top 10 team overall.
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Rhody83 wrote:
PeterRamTime wrote:Might be able to beat them next year. They'll lose a lot after this year.
I have doubts that'll happen though. Pretty vague rumor. Hope so!
You are joking right? Kentucky reloads every year with All-Americans.
Kentucky lost to Robert Morris in the NIT the year after they won the national title. There is a chance they lose the Harrison twins, Towns, Willie Cauley-Stein, Trey Lyles, Devin Booker. Even dakari Johnson. A lot depends on the Harrison twins because they have some pretty good players coming in who can fill around them but next year will not be a title type team for Kentucky.
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Blauds is "reporting" the Kentucky rumor too. Mentions URI and Northeastern. http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=12128
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Doesn't matter who Kentucky is losing. With their payroll, they'll have just as much talent next year.
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SmartyBarrett wrote:Blauds is "reporting" the Kentucky rumor too. Mentions URI and Northeastern. http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=12128

UMass-Northeastern is not the most attractive undercard. Would be nice to get another big name for the early game.
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Kentucky has already landed Briscoe and Labissiere, both 5 star, top 15 players. They are also the favorites to land Malik Newman, Jaylen Brown and Thon Maker, all 5 star, top 15 players. They may be waiting to see which current Kentucky players are staying.
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The team I was talking about had the #2, #8, and #25 recruit as frosh. And, oh by the way, Willie Cauley Stein as a frosh. And Alex Poythress. And current All American Kyle Wiltjer. They didn't make the NCAAs. Kentucky will never be bad but, if there is going to be a year to play them, it's probably next year.
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Wasnt there previous talk of us getting a game vs Duke? Was that for this coming season or the next season? If we played Kentucky, Duke, and Maryland in the same season that would be epic
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RIhoopz14 wrote:Wasnt there previous talk of us getting a game vs Duke? Was that for this coming season or the next season? If we played Kentucky, Duke, and Maryland in the same season that would be epic
Duke is in two years (Nov-2016) as part of the Mohegan Sun Tourney.
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There's no guarantee we'll play Duke in that tourney either.

Hope so, however. We should be pretty good, with most of the crowd for us.

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