'13 CT F Kuran Iverson (URI Commit)

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

I find that my usually firm stance of "no waivers for any player EVER!!" tends to soften when it comes to players on teams I care about.

eli#10 · Unread post by **eli#10** » 9 years ago

He only played 8 games for Memphis this season............

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

eli#10 wrote:He only played 8 games for Memphis this season............

If he was injured he could qualify for a hardship waiver, which is available when a player plays in less than 30% of their team's games due to injury. But I don't think Kuran suffererd a season-ending injury, and he transferred anyways so it can't be argued injury kept him out of all of the games post-transfer.

McRam · Unread post by **McRam** » 9 years ago

Also, I believe the medical redshirt is no more than 30% and it is NOT past the halfway point of the season, which I am assuming it is for Memphis.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

I forgot that they terminated his scholarship mid season. That could definitely be grounds for an appeal.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

McRam wrote:Also, I believe the medical redshirt is no more than 30% and it is NOT past the halfway point of the season, which I am assuming it is for Memphis.

I don't think he played at all this semester, right? So he wouldn't have played past the mid-point of the season. Moot point, anyways.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 9 years ago

Hey let's pick up Robert Upshaw. Center from Washington. Leads the nation in shot blocking. Kicked off the team for doing drugs.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Nice try, but we don't want to become the All Nitwit Team.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 9 years ago

Hahaha. The runnin nitwits.

Rammgr · Unread post by **Rammgr** » 9 years ago

I know Iverson is not really a 4 or 5 even at 6' 8" but what will the starting 5 look like once he settles in to the rotation sometime next January? They want to add a big man which is needed but I see a lineup of Garrett, Terell, Martin, Matthews & Iverson. Watson probably starts early in the yr as the 5th starter but this would be 1 quick lineup with Iverson joining the other 4. It's way too early & things have a way of working out but nice to see what looks like a very talented, athletic, & deep team if all goes well.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

We should have a solid core of 8 players, when you add Thompson and Butts to those six.

The one glaring hole is at the 5, as we all know. Without another big man addition, Hassan will have to play most of his minutes there, with Watson replacing him for short stretches.

I would think we will play more uptempo offense next year with that group.

Not only do we need a 5 for next season, another 4 wouldn't hurt. Butts and Iverson are more small forwards than power forwards.

If that means someone has to leave to open up another scholarship, so be it.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 9 years ago

Apologies if this had been posted already, but just saw it on Twitter. Its from 2012, but gives you a pretty good idea of why he was so highly rated out of high school.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Just an amazing talent. Can't wait to see him Hurleyized and
in a Rhody uniform!

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 9 years ago

Yeah if Hurley can inspire him to work like the rest of the team does, and if he goes along with the camaraderie of the team then he should be able to really max out his college potential. He has good grades too.
If he can't buy into those virtues then he's as hopeless as __________.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

The thing that excites me the most in that video are a couple of the passes he made. Those were impressive. Nice to have a 6'9" guy who can pass like that. Does anybody know what kind of reputation he has as a defensive player?

luke · Unread post by **luke** » 9 years ago

Love the term Hurleyized , Rod. and that is exactly what we need to happen with KI. When will there be a public announcement which might give us an idea of his eligibility time frame?

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Billyboy, from what I heard he has the potential to be an excellent defensive player.

However, from what the Memphis poster said, he had issues on defense that sound similar to why Dan hasn't been playing Earl that much.

Certainly not talent issues, more like lack of focus, not rotating on defense and leaving his man open.

That can be corrected, and Dan is just the man to do it.

That takes time, and there's plenty of time to work on it.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

Big man needs aside, you have to be salivating at the possibilities athletically with Hassan, EC, Terrell, Garrett and Iverson on the floor together. I can almost guarantee DH uses a versatile 6'8 guy to trap the ball in a more pressing and extended style of our current man defense. We are missing that piece right now, VCU uses their long wings prominently in Havoc.

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 9 years ago

He may be the second best ball handler to Jarvis on our team, if not his equal. His tape shows him making the same moves with the left and right hands. Amazing he didn't flourish and end up on some NBA roster already.

Gives pause, but im optimistic!

rhodylaw · Unread post by **rhodylaw** » 9 years ago

It looks to me like he can replace a lot of what Gil does for us now which honestly I was worried about. If he buys in and commits to D and rebounding could be huge.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

Nothing like Gil except they are both 6'8

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 9 years ago

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

Salvage….salvage. Iverson had an epiphany, which is impressive, considering he's young….

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

Kind of weird to hear guys that age so focused on their brand, but that is more a reflection on our culture than it is one him, individually. The important thing is that if he knows he has work to do, this could be an immensely and mutualy beneficial relationship for the player and the school.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

Interpreting Dan's comments: Kuran, you have talent. We all know that. You have work to do- commit yourself to it, and this should work out well for all involved.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

Interesting that Dan says it was Iverson that sought out URI rather than vice versa. Was this the Terrell connection that drew Iverson's interest?

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Supposedly Ty Boswell was involved.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 9 years ago

Yeah if I had to make an assumption based on that, it would be that he went back to his AAU ties to help find his next landing spot and they led him here. (And alot of that is based on Rod's previous info as well, to give credit where its due)

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

“Kuran is a talented, versatile, athletic player that fits our program’s style of play,” said head coach Dan Hurley. “We are excited about his desire to be a part of our hard-working culture at Rhode Island and get his career back on track as a high-level, top-rated recruit coming out of high school.”

http://zagsblog.com/articles/rhody-land ... n-iverson/

And yes, AAU connections are strong,

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

During the 2014 spring semester, Iverson earned Tiger Academic 30 distinction - an award that honors student-athletes with the best grade-point average on each team (minimum 3.0 GPA). He was also named to the Tiger 3.0 Club for the 2014 spring semester.

He will practice with the Rams throughout the remainder of the academic year and will be eligible to compete at the conclusion of the fall 2015 final exam schedule.

http://gorhody.com/sports/m-baskbl/2014 ... 0129svva8u

Looks like he'll be eligible December 23.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

Get him training with the rest of the squad and you will see a new body on Iverson by the middle of the summer. Butts and Thompson also will be beneficiaries…...

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 9 years ago

This certainly speaks to Terrell being happy and comfortable in his short time in the program. If he had any misgivings you'd think Boswell would have taken that into account and wouldn't have viewed this as a good fit for Iverson.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Blue skies, people! Keaney Blue skies!

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Blue skies, people! Keaney Blue skies!

Keep 'em coming. Who is the next big Expressions recruit?

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

At one point, they had dropped their older teams. I'm not sure what their status is right now.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

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Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 9 years ago

From someone familiar with Iverson: lazy, which is why he never got a ton of minutes, and huge entourage, which scared off some teams.
That's why Hurley had to be talked into it. We'll see what happens.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

Yeah, that's his rep, but with this current group of players, they feel they can take the chance. Hurley isn't exactly being cryptic in his comments.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

He's either going to buy into the program or he won't make it until December. Not really a TON of risk on our side.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 9 years ago

I hope the entourage rumors are untrue, that is not good.....

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

Good grades and an entourage don't seem to make sense, though. An entourage takes too much time, money and effort. It doesn't even work in high school……...

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 9 years ago

The entourage us not a rumor. I can't speak about Memphis but his high school grades were not good

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

Iggy1979 wrote:The entourage us not a rumor. I can't speak about Memphis but his high school grades were not good

The Rhode Island official release speaks to his academic performance at Memphis.

We know the background. I have no problem keeping an open mind and trusting this program.

Section104 · Unread post by **Section104** » 9 years ago

Maybe his entourage is big enough to fill those empty seats...bring em all!

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 9 years ago

ace wrote:
Iggy1979 wrote:The entourage us not a rumor. I can't speak about Memphis but his high school grades were not good
The Rhode Island official release speaks to his academic performance at Memphis.

We know the background. I have no problem keeping an open mind and trusting this program.

I trust Hurley too, but I think we all need to realize it was more than a personality conflict with the coach.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

It's like the Pats. They have enough leaders in the locker room
to absorb and straighten out a problem child.
"Conform or be cast out", to quote Rush.
Hurley won't put up with entourages hanging around one
of his players.
Tristan Thompson and Jordan Hare would attest that Dan
doesn't tolerate nonsense.
So, what are you suggesting, Iggy?
That Hurley shouldn't have enough confidence in his ability to mold young men
into doing it his way?
That he should have passed up on Iverson, because of "someone said he was lazy and
had an entourage"??
If you want to play with the big dogs, you need to get off the porch.
You don't see mid majors win without taking chances on some kids.
It's the reality of college basketball.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

Of course it was more than that, he was averaging 4 ppg....I am sure the issues begin and end there. He wasn't producing, he wasn't playing, he wasn't getting along with his coach. He was insubordinate, bye bye. Besides the playing part it is eerily similar to a situation in Kingston with those that remain nameless.

That said, I like high majors transferring down a level, humbled, chip on his shoulder, time running out to play his way to his potential. I bet the entourage shrinks in Kingston. And its pretty obvious, if you dont play defense and work hard no matter how many points you score you aren't playing for a Dan Hurley team.

BornNBred33 · Unread post by **BornNBred33** » 9 years ago

Why does this have to be called an entourage? Cant a man have friends without it being trouble..... We are not close to the situation, nor do we know who his friends are. Lets not pass judgement, its been 1 week in Kingston. We should still all be shouting from the rooftops over this pick up. DEEEEEEP breaths people, enjoy the ride.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 9 years ago

BornNBred33 wrote:Why does this have to be called an entourage? Cant a man have friends without it being trouble..... We are not close to the situation, nor do we know who his friends are. Lets not pass judgement, its been 1 week in Kingston. We should still all be shouting from the rooftops over this pick up. DEEEEEEP breaths people, enjoy the ride.

I predict this thread will be 90 pages before Iverson scores his first point for URI.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

I never gotten the entourage thing with certain athletes and entertainers.
OT, but Donna Summer was doing a duet recording with Barbara Streisand.
Summer walked into the studio with a huge entourage, which was not
welcomed in the studio, and Streisand walked in with herself.
Ron Artest, in his rookie year in the NBA took his butt smoochers on the road with him.
Plus his own barber, masseuse, and whatever. He went through his entire 1 million dollar
salary supporting this crew.
There is a small village living off Lamar Odom.
These "entourage" types are just sucking off the success of one athlete
or entertainer.
No good comes of it.