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I really believe we dance at 23-10 win out til the a10 finals

The committee will do us a favor

I think it's win the A10 Tournament or no dice.
I don't see the A10 being a 3 bid league, especially when Dayton and VCU have clearly separated themselves from everyone else in the A10 when it comes to their record and play in the A10.

We dont win out...but beat vcu and we have 4 or 5 top 100 wins, including vcu, st bonny, lasalle and belmont.

The Dude wrote:I think it's win the A10 Tournament or no dice.
I don't see the A10 being a 3 bid league, especially when Dayton and VCU have clearly separated themselves from everyone else in the A10 when it comes to their record and play in the A10.

The 8th conference. We deserve our third vs the acc 9. I would tKe that bet every day

Just to translate I meant we are the 8th ranked conference, but I would bet the atlantic tens third team would beat the acc's 9th

There is a ton of basketball left. Beat VCU and take care of business. Many teams will play themselves out of the DANCE in the next few weeks. RHODY after 17 years is going to play themselves in.

REVERSE THE CURSE!

GO RHODY!

The Dude wrote:I think it's win the A10 Tournament or no dice.
I don't see the A10 being a 3 bid league, especially when Dayton and VCU have clearly separated themselves from everyone else in the A10 when it comes to their record and play in the A10.

Actually VCU SHOULD have 2 more losses. If we beat them today that puts them at 3 and if they lose at Dayton that'd be 4. 4 losses is not much separation from 5 especially when that 5 loss team won the head-to-head.

But really, we just need to worry about 1 game at a time. Truth is we could easily be this year's Tulsa, or this year's St. Bonn, or worst, this year's URI .

What if we beat VCU twice in the next two weeks?

REVERSE THE CURSE!

GO RHODY!

Roz wrote:Just to translate I meant we are the 8th ranked conference, but I would bet the atlantic tens third team would beat the acc's 9th

Right now the acc's 9th place team is Virginia do you really think URI gets in over them ?

URI2006_Andy wrote:

rjsuperfly66 wrote: Many ACC teams have been able to manipulate every metric this season ... They play tough schedule because their conference is tough so their RPI's are inflated ... It's also helped with their KenPom, they've won some tough games but not many, but they aren't often blown out, and also outperform expectations when an underdog.

If you're worried about ACC teams getting in that don't deserve to be in then you want an objective system over a committee. Trust me.

Not this year -- if we just used metrics, the ACC would get in all 4 of Syracuse, Georgia Tech, Clemson, and Wake. With the committee, at this point they'd be thrown 1, maybe 2 of those bids. Wake really has no chance, neither does Clemson.

adam914 wrote:

Hate to sound like potus but that was the greatest win in 7+ years. Definitely biggest in DH tenure. No question.
They still need the auto bid, but now maybe they finally will be tough enough to play like they are able.
Closest they've been to being a fine-tuned machine. Can they win three straight in Pitt? Time will tell.

It was a program building win, and I heard of two recruits that were at this game, national reputation got a boost on espn as well.

Agree....HUGE win...big numbers-wise, but even bigger in that it showed they can not only 'play' with the upper echelon teams...they can actually beat one. Kudos to Hurls and crew, was a great time at the RC. And the crowd was fantastic...

That is what we all hoped the atmosphere would be this year. I think VCU is better than Dayton. They are certainly bigger and stronger. I love the way we are pounding the ball inside now. We played really strong basketball today; we out-toughed a pretty tough front court

I'm hoping to do enough in the next two weeks that we don't need to, but there is no reason that team I saw today can't just win the damn thing in Pittsburgh and make all of this moot.

Obviously there is a chance that URI could win out until the A10 final and still miss out on an at-large bid, that said there is something meaningful to the fact they are are hot down the stretch and won against VCU today. In all the years they have been close since 99 they have not been doing what they are at the moment

giovanni wrote:

Is this really true?

Now if we win all the way to A10 finals and lose to finish 23-10 I will be pissed off if we don't get a bid

When was the last time the a10 only had 2 bids ??

I think in that scenario they will look and see we did make a challenging OOC schedule and reward us

CBS bracketology has us playing Syracuse game n one of the play in games at Dayton

CBS bracketology has us playing Syracuse game n one of the play in games at Dayton

If URI makes it in as the third team from the A10 (not the autobid) my guess is we will have to ask our Dayton friends to set aside how much they hate Dan and cheer for the A10 team in their house.

I would love to play cuse

Rhodymob05 wrote:

giovanni wrote:

Is this really true?

I saw a twitter remark about how great PC wins were over Xavier and Creighton last week some time. Some writer, I think it was Evan Daniels, don't quote me on that, but it was a national writer, saying don't look now, but Providence had 2 great wins in a row. Gottleib and a couple others chimed in agreeing. Then there was a reply by someone , and it may have actually be a PC fan,asking, though those wins were very good, does the committee take into effect that Xavier obviously was not a top 20 team without Sumner and Bluett and the same can be said about Creighton without Watson. There were a few guys involved in conversation, but apparently, at least one didn't know Sumner was out, let alone Blueitt, which apparently a couple didn't know about. Don't think even Gottlieb knew about Blueitt at the time. He responded something to the effect that is tricky, the way wins like that are looked at. I found it to be a good commentary about wins/losses without star players. Not going at PCs wins, but I tend to agree that the X win in particular, certainly shouldn't be looked at the same with X playing without their 2 best players. I would say the same thing with our St Joes win, them playing without Newkirk, Joes clearly is not the same team without him. On the other side, I recall seeing a few comments attached to URI's 1st loss at Dayton, saying URI lost to Dayton and "Charles Cooke didn't even play" . So it should work both ways. Presenting it in a way, that because Cooke didn't play, it was a worse loss than it would appear to be.

Also, I found it a bit interesting that a couple of guys making these remarks had no idea Blueitt didn't play and one seemed unaware of Sumner also, who had been out for a while. I think it points to the fact that even some of these national writers, who make these comments, many people take as gospel. While at times, these comments are made somewhat blindly, without all the accurate information. Its impossible to be totally in tune with entire country like they try to be. There is no doubt some of these guys make commentary about how good or bad a team is on hearsay and looking at box scores without ever seeing a team play or maybe seeing them once or twice. Yet, when some of these national people write something, it seems to carry a lot of weight with the public and I wouldn't doubt , to an extent with the committee also. Presenting it in a way, that because Cooke didn't play, it was a worse loss than it would appear to be.

A number 7 seed in lunardis bracket

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THIS WEIRD SITUATION HAPPENED

WE WIN OUT TO THE A-10 FINAL AND LOSE TO SOMEONE OTHER THAN DAYTON OR VCU

DOES THE COMMITEE PUT US IN AS THE 4TH A-10 TEAM

If VCU loses to Dayton this week then gets knocked out of the A10 tourney by Richmond, who beats URI in the final after URI beats Dayton in the semis (not even sure if seeding-wise this is possible), I think URI would get in but I'm not sure about VCU in that scenario honestly.

kal-65 wrote:WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THIS WEIRD SITUATION HAPPENED

WE WIN OUT TO THE A-10 FINAL AND LOSE TO SOMEONE OTHER THAN DAYTON OR VCU

DOES THE COMMITEE PUT US IN AS THE 4TH A-10 TEAM

Steve and Don were talking about this yesterday too, and they said no. I tend to agree - this isn't a four-bid league. If URI doesn't win the A-10 Tourney, they NEED either Dayton or VCU to win it.

I thought Steve was saying that if we lost in the semis he thought we could still get in as long as VCU or Dayton won. I think that's overly optimistic, but that's what I think they were saying.

I def agree that's too optimistic. I still don't see four teams getting in from the A-10 though. The bubble would REALLY have to go in the toilet for that to happen.

No, I agree with that. As I said above, I think there is a scenario in which VCU slides off the bubble if they lose this week to Dayton and then in the semis and a fourth team wins the tournament.

with 2 top 50 wins and an rpi between 40 and 50 we have a 57% chance of an at large bid at the moment

If Richmond were to beat us in the finals then there shouldn't be any reason we don't get in along with three other A10 teams. We have been a 6 bid league before in recent years. Why would other A10 teams not get picked just because it's too many bids? Doesn't make sense.

in the update of todays brackets on bracketmatrix.com URI appears in 10 of the 31

I don't see Rhody getting into the NCAA Tournament unless they make it to the finals of the A10 tournament at the very least.
This is what Joey-brackets has today.

The Lunardi bracket was dated feb 23 he hasn't done his next bracket yet I don't think

If VCU splits this week and wins their 1st game in a10 tourney they will have 25 wins should be in

Too bad Richmond has two cupcakes left which should put us as the 4 seed

Lunardi hasn't updated his yet. After the win he said we were in the conversation. I'm sure we will be in his first or next four out.

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/14158

pretty much we have 1 path to an at large...our next loss must be in the A10 finals and be to VCU or Dayton.

steveystuds06 wrote:Lunardi hasn't updated his yet. After the win he said we were in the conversation. I'm sure we will be in his first or next four out.

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/14158

Play in game against Illinois State to take on Notre Dame, I'll take that.

Lunardi has us third out this morning.

Da_Process_Survivor wrote:pretty much we have 1 path to an at large...our next loss must be in the A10 finals and be to VCU or Dayton.

I'm not sure anyone on Keaneyblue is disagreeing with that. In fact, most all felt we had to win out after the Fordham Loss at home to at the least the Championship Game of the A10. Some felt we actually had to WIN the Championship game to boot.

I see two options:
- Win out Conference Play and get to the Championship Game and lose it
- Win out Conference Play and get to the Semi-Finals and lose and pray very, very hard

Obviously winning the A10 Tournament gives the Auto Bid

Need to figure out a way to have both GT and Syracuse lose when they play each other in the last regular season game...

Rhody15 wrote:Need to figure out a way to have both GT and Syracuse lose when they play each other in the last regular season game...

Should be rooting for Cuse in that one. Their resume is WAY better than GT.

This is the last 6 years and only at large bids. Considering a weak bubble this year it is something to ponder in terms of what URI needs to get the at large. I think the focus on the difference between us losing in the semis or the finals may be overrated and bigger picture factors may determine our fate.

Thank you for this chart!

So right now excluding the eye test and BPI, we have a 57% chance. Assuming we continue to win, our chance can only go up!