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RF1 wrote: 4 years ago
I am not 100% certain on the max number of games now allowed. I have read that there is a change being made to the rules for MTE tournaments which will only allow up to three exempt games. Not certain when it goes into effect. It was passed in the last year. My thinking is since these events are scheduled years out, it may not immediately go into effect.
The new rule change is as follows:

-You can play 28 games + 3 OOC Tournament games
-You can play 29 games + 2 OOC Tournament games
-You can play 29 games if you do not play in an OOC Tournament

The previous rule was that you could play 27 games + up to 4 in an OOC Tournament. The up to 4 included the random on-campus home games that had to be completed within a certain time frame.

This information below is from the NCAA:

"The legislation will take effect immediately, although some tournaments will be grandfathered in for the 2020-21 season if they were already scheduled."
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So how does this work then?
Marquette
Central Florida
Lehigh
Quinnipiac

How do the 2 home games count?

And bottom line, does URI get 13 or 12 OOC games?
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ramster wrote: 4 years ago So how does this work then?
Marquette
Central Florida
Lehigh
Quinnipiac

How do the 2 home games count?

And bottom line, does URI get 13 or 12 OOC games?
URI gets 13 OOC games as grandfathered in by the old rules.

If this were to be played under the new rules, they'd get 29 games + 2 tournament games. They'd get 13 OOC games, difference being they wouldn't be forced to play teams participating in their tournament and be forced to play them during the allotted time frame of the tournament, and could schedule any other 2 teams they wanted throughout the entirety of the season.
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Thanks. So we still need to add two OOC games.
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theblueram wrote: 4 years ago
section(105) wrote: 4 years ago ......and Vermont might say, what about us? I like the idea though......
VT? seriously? pass.
What is with everybody on here constantly dissing Vermont? Over the last 20? years, they have been better than probably 75%? of the A10. And they just spent over $100? million building a new arena. Some of you folks need to wake up and realize we are living in 2020. This is not your father's Vermont program.
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daytonflyerfan wrote: 4 years ago
theblueram wrote: 4 years ago
section(105) wrote: 4 years ago ......and Vermont might say, what about us? I like the idea though......
VT? seriously? pass.
What is with everybody on here constantly dissing Vermont? Over the last 20? years, they have been better than probably 75%? of the A10. And they just spent over $100? million building a new arena. Some of you folks need to wake up and realize we are living in 2020. This is not your father's Vermont program.
Everybody? Constantly?

Just because posters don’t disagree in writing on the board doesn’t mean they agree. We have played Vermont before at the Ryan Center back when they had Taylor Coppenrath.
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daytonflyerfan wrote: 4 years ago
theblueram wrote: 4 years ago
section(105) wrote: 4 years ago ......and Vermont might say, what about us? I like the idea though......
VT? seriously? pass.
What is with everybody on here constantly dissing Vermont? Over the last 20? years, they have been better than probably 75%? of the A10. And they just spent over $100? million building a new arena. Some of you folks need to wake up and realize we are living in 2020. This is not your father's Vermont program.

The $95M price tag for a new UVM athletic complex is not just for the basketball venue. The bulk of that money is not being spent on hoops as hockey and student space is getting a bigger share. The new Tarrant Center basketball home will seat just 3,200, similar to the current Patrick Gym.

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URI surprisingly does not have nearly as much history with UVM as it does many other New England schools (both public and private). Rhody has played Vermont on 48 occasions, ranking it 15th of all schools and just 9th for New England opponents. URI has played six other New England schools 100 or more games. One would think that there might be more URI-UVM games since both are state flagship universities and once were both members of the same league. The history of the two institutions however seems to be nearly all associated with their time in the Yankee Conference. They rarely played each other before or after. The distance of some 300 miles and UVM being located in a tough winter travel destination likely factored into this.
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daytonflyerfan wrote: 4 years ago
theblueram wrote: 4 years ago
section(105) wrote: 4 years ago ......and Vermont might say, what about us? I like the idea though......
VT? seriously? pass.
What is with everybody on here constantly dissing Vermont? Over the last 20? years, they have been better than probably 75%? of the A10. And they just spent over $100? million building a new arena. Some of you folks need to wake up and realize we are living in 2020. This is not your father's Vermont program.
Vermont has been awesome the last several years, but here is the problem with scheduling Vermont. The last three years they've had a KenPom of 76. Not that KenPom is the NET, it's only easier to reference, but if you played Vermont at home each of the last 3 years, that would be a Q3 game, followed by a Q3 game, followed by a Q3 game (off of KenPom ratings, Vermont had a NET of 79 this year which would have made them a Q3 game).

Their ceiling in the last 15 years has been having a KenPom of 75, which would make them the last potential Q2 home game. Again, I know KenPom is not necessarily the NET, but I think the point remains that scheduling to play them at home realistically means you are likely playing a Q3 home game with the outside chance of it becoming a Q2 game, but if you lose, you now get the "bad" home loss on your resume.

So there is considerable risk with scheduling that type of team, unless you are ok with scheduling a hard potential Q3 game that has a 10% chance of being a Q2 game in a good year, but a 30-40% chance of becoming a bad loss.
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Agree Daytonflyerfan . Vermont has been very respectable in recent years . They were 26-7 last year and beat St. Johns , St. Bonaventure and GW
last season and went 27-7 and 28-7 in the previous seasons . No pushover there .
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RF1 wrote: 4 years ago The $95M price tag for a new UVM athletic complex is not just for the basketball venue. The bulk of that money is not being spent of hoops as hockey and student space is getting a bigger share. The new Tarrant Center basketball home will seat just 3,200, similar to the current Patrick Gym.
So what? Look at their bottom line results. 11 postseason appearances since 2003. How many A10 programs have done better than that? VCU and maybe Dayton? and maybe Davidson?


NCAA Tournament Appearances

2003, 2004, 2005, 2010, 2012, 2017, 2019

NIT Tournament Appearances

2007, 2011, 2014, 2018
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daytonflyerfan wrote: 4 years ago
RF1 wrote: 4 years ago The $95M price tag for a new UVM athletic complex is not just for the basketball venue. The bulk of that money is not being spent of hoops as hockey and student space is getting a bigger share. The new Tarrant Center basketball home will seat just 3,200, similar to the current Patrick Gym.
So what? Look at their bottom line results. 11 postseason appearances since 2003. How many A10 programs have done better than that? VCU and maybe Dayton and maybe Davidson?


NCAA Tournament Appearances

2003, 2004, 2005, 2010, 2012, 2017, 2019

NIT Tournament Appearances

2007, 2011, 2014, 2018
Bad conference. Automatic Bid. Auto qualifying.

Apples to Oranges
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daytonflyerfan wrote: 4 years ago
RF1 wrote: 4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: 4 years ago

What is with everybody on here constantly dissing Vermont? Over the last 20? years, they have been better than probably 75%? of the A10. And they just spent over $100? million building a new arena. Some of you folks need to wake up and realize we are living in 2020. This is not your father's Vermont program.

The $95M price tag for a new UVM athletic complex is not just for the basketball venue. The bulk of that money is not being spent of hoops as hockey and student space is getting a bigger share. The new Tarrant Center basketball home will seat just 3,200, similar to the current Patrick Gym.
So what? Look at their bottom line results. 11 postseason appearances since 2003. How many A10 programs have done better than that? VCU and maybe Dayton and maybe Davidson?


NCAA Tournament Appearances

2003, 2004, 2005, 2010, 2012, 2017, 2019

NIT Tournament Appearances

2007, 2011, 2014, 2018
Not for anything, but there is a big difference between a team in a weaker conference winning an automatic bid via conference tournament (or receiving an automatic NIT bid because they won their regular season conference), and the A10 where the top-level talent is much more difficult and is going to struggle to see teams run the table year after year after year.
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ramster wrote: 4 years ago Bad conference. Automatic Bid. Auto qualifying.

Apples to Oranges
Agree to disagree...dominating your conference is the sign of a strong program...Vermont is ready to upgrade its conference IMO...they would whip up on a lot of the A10 IMO...I bet right now they would be a consistent top 5 A10 program.
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daytonflyerfan wrote: 4 years ago
ramster wrote: 4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: 4 years ago

So what? Look at their bottom line results. 11 postseason appearances since 2003. How many A10 programs have done better than that? VCU and maybe Dayton and maybe Davidson?


NCAA Tournament Appearances

2003, 2004, 2005, 2010, 2012, 2017, 2019

NIT Tournament Appearances

2007, 2011, 2014, 2018
Bad conference. Automatic Bid. Auto qualifying.

Apples to Oranges
Agree to disagree...dominating your conference is the sign of a strong program...Vermont is ready to upgrade its conference IMO...they would whip up on a lot of the A10 IMO...I bet right now they would be a consistent top 5 A10 program.
As you said, agree to disagree. Apples to oranges comparison. Six A10 Teams were higher than Vermont’s 79 last year. 2nd place was Stony Brook at 189.

NET America East
79 Vermont
189 Stony Brook
236 UMBC
238 New Hampshire
246 Hartford
257 UMass Lowell
268 Albany
318 Maine
332 Binghamton
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daytonflyerfan wrote: 4 years ago
RF1 wrote: 4 years ago The $95M price tag for a new UVM athletic complex is not just for the basketball venue. The bulk of that money is not being spent of hoops as hockey and student space is getting a bigger share. The new Tarrant Center basketball home will seat just 3,200, similar to the current Patrick Gym.
So what? Look at their bottom line results. 11 postseason appearances since 2003. How many A10 programs have done better than that? VCU and maybe Dayton? and maybe Davidson?


NCAA Tournament Appearances

2003, 2004, 2005, 2010, 2012, 2017, 2019

NIT Tournament Appearances

2007, 2011, 2014, 2018

I would imagine with that postseason resume and new venue soon to open that Dayton must be on the phone trying to set up a home and home. The Flyers and their fans will love Burlington in December.

What is the latest word on Dayton playing Wright State located just a few miles across town from UD? They have the 10k seat Nutter Center arena and went to the NCAA in 2018 and the NIT in 2019. The Raiders play in the Horizon League which is nearly always ranked above the America East.

How many true road OOC games will Dayton play this season after having played ZERO this past year?
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RF1 wrote: 4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: 4 years ago
RF1 wrote: 4 years ago The $95M price tag for a new UVM athletic complex is not just for the basketball venue. The bulk of that money is not being spent of hoops as hockey and student space is getting a bigger share. The new Tarrant Center basketball home will seat just 3,200, similar to the current Patrick Gym.
So what? Look at their bottom line results. 11 postseason appearances since 2003. How many A10 programs have done better than that? VCU and maybe Dayton? and maybe Davidson?


NCAA Tournament Appearances

2003, 2004, 2005, 2010, 2012, 2017, 2019

NIT Tournament Appearances

2007, 2011, 2014, 2018

I would imagine with that postseason resume and new venue soon to open that Dayton must be on the phone trying to set up a home and home. The Flyers and their fans will love Burlington in December.

What is the latest word on Dayton playing Wright State located just a few miles across town from UD? They have the 10k seat Nutter Center arena and went to the NCAA in 2018 and the NIT in 2019. The Raiders play in the Horizon League which is nearly always ranked above the America East.

How many true road OOC games will Dayton play this season after having played ZERO this past year?
Zero Road Games?
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daytonflyerfan wrote: 4 years ago Agree to disagree...dominating your conference is the sign of a strong program...Vermont is ready to upgrade its conference IMO...they would whip up on a lot of the A10 IMO...I bet right now they would be a consistent top 5 A10 program.
Is it? Vermont isn't exactly Gonzaga or early-2000s Butler, dominating their conference with a Top 25 program and winning games in the tournament. Vermont has been a great team in a bad conference which allows for them to grab those bids, get into the tournaments as a lower-seed, and basically lose their first round game while being a upset hopeful, which they haven't done since 2005. Their average tournament seed during that time is a 15 seed, and their peak seed has been a 13 seed, which they would have likely been this season.
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ramster wrote: 4 years ago
RF1 wrote: 4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: 4 years ago

So what? Look at their bottom line results. 11 postseason appearances since 2003. How many A10 programs have done better than that? VCU and maybe Dayton? and maybe Davidson?


NCAA Tournament Appearances

2003, 2004, 2005, 2010, 2012, 2017, 2019

NIT Tournament Appearances

2007, 2011, 2014, 2018

I would imagine with that postseason resume and new venue soon to open that Dayton must be on the phone trying to set up a home and home. The Flyers and their fans will love Burlington in December.

What is the latest word on Dayton playing Wright State located just a few miles across town from UD? They have the 10k seat Nutter Center arena and went to the NCAA in 2018 and the NIT in 2019. The Raiders play in the Horizon League which is nearly always ranked above the America East.

How many true road OOC games will Dayton play this season after having played ZERO this past year?
Zero Road Games?
YES - ZERO true road OOC games. The Flyers played 13 OOC games this past season. Eight were at home with the other five being at neutral sites. (for comparison purposes - URI (with one less OOC tilt) played six home, four true road, and two neutral site games)

Dayton 2019-20 Schedule Link:
https://daytonflyers.com/sports/mens-ba ... le/2019-20
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RF1 wrote: 4 years ago I would imagine with that postseason resume and new venue soon to open that Dayton must be on the phone trying to set up a home and home. The Flyers and their fans will love Burlington in December.

What is the latest word on Dayton playing Wright State located just a few miles across town from UD? They have the 10k seat Nutter Center arena and went to the NCAA in 2018 and the NIT in 2019. The Raiders play in the Horizon League which is nearly always ranked above the America East.

How many true road OOC games will Dayton play this season after having played ZERO this past year?
Vermont is a lot better than Wright State, no comparison. If the Raiders ever get to Vermont's current level, then I could see a h/h series maybe happening.

And you will get no argument from me regarding the road games, but we are playing 15 road/neutral games this year for the first time ever, so we are making strides in that area.

We just landed a h/h with SMU too, starting in Dayton, 7 good ooc games this year.
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ramster wrote: 4 years ago
As you said, agree to disagree. Apples to oranges comparison. Six A10 Teams were higher than Vermont’s 79 last year. 2nd place was Stony Brook at 189.
Ok, so where would you rank Vermont right now if they were in the A10? Which A10 teams are clearly better?
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rjsuperfly66 wrote: 4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: 4 years ago Agree to disagree...dominating your conference is the sign of a strong program...Vermont is ready to upgrade its conference IMO...they would whip up on a lot of the A10 IMO...I bet right now they would be a consistent top 5 A10 program.
Is it? Vermont isn't exactly Gonzaga or early-2000s Butler, dominating their conference with a Top 25 program and winning games in the tournament.
Vermont is not Gonzaga or Butler, but Vermont would improve the current A10.
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daytonflyerfan wrote: 4 years ago
rjsuperfly66 wrote: 4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: 4 years ago Agree to disagree...dominating your conference is the sign of a strong program...Vermont is ready to upgrade its conference IMO...they would whip up on a lot of the A10 IMO...I bet right now they would be a consistent top 5 A10 program.
Is it? Vermont isn't exactly Gonzaga or early-2000s Butler, dominating their conference with a Top 25 program and winning games in the tournament.
Vermont is not Gonzaga or Butler, but Vermont would improve the current A10.
Dayton should schedule a home-home with Vermont. It would be great for the Dayton Program.
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ramster wrote: 4 years ago
Dayton should schedule a home-home with Vermont. It would be great for the Dayton Program.
Vermont is better than a lot of the home and homes you guys have done recently...WKU, MTSU, Charleston, Harvard, Valpo, and Old Dominion.
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daytonflyerfan wrote: 4 years ago
ramster wrote: 4 years ago
Dayton should schedule a home-home with Vermont. It would be great for the Dayton Program.
Vermont is better than a lot of the home and homes you guys have done recently...WKU, MTSU, Charleston, Harvard, Valpo, and Old Dominion.
I would argue that WKU is just as good as Vermont and this past year’s team would have been better if Bassey had been healthy. Also, that 2027-2018 Charleston team was pretty good.
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daytonflyerfan wrote: 4 years ago
ramster wrote: 4 years ago
Dayton should schedule a home-home with Vermont. It would be great for the Dayton Program.
Vermont is better than a lot of the home and homes you guys have done recently...WKU, MTSU, Charleston, Harvard, Valpo, and Old Dominion.
Probably better than every team Dayton played at home last year. So maybe go on your own board and push to play Vermont?
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Dayton was ranked third in the country and had the NPOY / All American and Coach of the Year.

Seems to me like their scheduling worked out just fine.

I’d take their schedule and results in a second.

We complain about anything just to complain don’t we?
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Rhody15 wrote: 4 years ago Dayton was ranked third in the country and had the NPOY / All American and Coach of the Year.

Seems to me like their scheduling worked out just fine.

I’d take their schedule and results in a second.

We complain about anything just to complain don’t we?
Are we complaining about home games, or just games in general?
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And since I'm on scheduling, can we get rid of the Brown away game? That game is meaningless and we could schedule much better than that.
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theblueram wrote: 4 years ago Probably better than every team Dayton played at home last year. So maybe go on your own board and push to play Vermont?
Touche.
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theblueram wrote: 4 years ago And since I'm on scheduling, can we get rid of the Brown away game? That game is meaningless and we could schedule much better than that.
If we had beaten Brown this year I guarantee you wouldn’t be saying that.

I believe Mike Laprey came on the board when we worked here and said we schedule @ Brown to give the alumni who live in PVD a close game for them to go to, it’s an in state rivalry, travel costs are minimal, and I can’t remember what else he brought up.
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Rhody15 wrote: 4 years ago
theblueram wrote: 4 years ago And since I'm on scheduling, can we get rid of the Brown away game? That game is meaningless and we could schedule much better than that.
If we had beaten Brown this year I guarantee you wouldn’t be saying that.

I believe Mike Laprey came on the board when we worked here and said we schedule @ Brown to give the alumni who live in PVD a close game for them to go to, it’s an in state rivalry, travel costs are minimal, and I can’t remember what else he brought up.
It is not an in state rivalry. FAR from it. How many times has the Brown game sold out. I'll give you a hint. NEVER. Just end the road game and play them every two years.
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Rhody72 wrote: 4 years ago The home OOC schedule is a real oater. This type of scheduling is the college basketball version of putting lipstick on a pig.
Drexel
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Brown
Lehigh
Quinnipiac

...is not "lipstick".... it's just pure gross.
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theblueram wrote: 4 years ago And since I'm on scheduling, can we get rid of the Brown away game? That game is meaningless and we could schedule much better than that.
It is kinda fun though to go up there and watch D1 hoops in a high school gym sometimes.... :lol:
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Didn't we lose to Brown up there recently?
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......if we don’t play Brown, the importance Quahog Cup will be diminished........after all, didn’t Brown win that last year?.......
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NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 4 years ago
Rhody72 wrote: 4 years ago The home OOC schedule is a real oater. This type of scheduling is the college basketball version of putting lipstick on a pig.
Drexel
Boise State
Brown
Lehigh
Quinnipiac

...is not "lipstick".... it's just pure gross.
2 of those are from the Mohegan tournament so we have to accept those if we want the benefit of playing Marquette and UCF/Minnesota.

1 is a h/h with an in-state D1 program and 1 is a forced game as part of the A10-MWC challenge.

So we're all just upset with Drexel? Is that it?
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RhodyKyle wrote: 4 years ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 4 years ago
Rhody72 wrote: 4 years ago The home OOC schedule is a real oater. This type of scheduling is the college basketball version of putting lipstick on a pig.
Drexel
Boise State
Brown
Lehigh
Quinnipiac

...is not "lipstick".... it's just pure gross.
2 of those are from the Mohegan tournament so we have to accept those if we want the benefit of playing Marquette and UCF/Minnesota.

1 is a h/h with an in-state D1 program and 1 is a forced game as part of the A10-MWC challenge.

So we're all just upset with Drexel? Is that it?
That does not make them "opponents that bring Casual Fan to the Ry".... these will be 'plenty of great seats available' games.
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daytonflyerfan wrote: 4 years ago
RF1 wrote: 4 years ago The $95M price tag for a new UVM athletic complex is not just for the basketball venue. The bulk of that money is not being spent of hoops as hockey and student space is getting a bigger share. The new Tarrant Center basketball home will seat just 3,200, similar to the current Patrick Gym.
So what? Look at their bottom line results. 11 postseason appearances since 2003. How many A10 programs have done better than that? VCU and maybe Dayton? and maybe Davidson?


NCAA Tournament Appearances

2003, 2004, 2005, 2010, 2012, 2017, 2019

NIT Tournament Appearances

2007, 2011, 2014, 2018
To be fair they don’t have a lot of competition for their league title.
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URI may end up in the same boat as Vermont, if the cream of the A10 leaves at some point.

In other words, if we want to dance, we'll have to win what's left of the A10. One bid only.

And if we do, we'll likely never be better than a 13 seed...and have little chance to advance.

Low major city. Filling the RC will become a pipe dream.

Of course I hope that never happens, but financial reality being what it is here...….
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208, at least going forward, we won't have to schedule 2 dreck teams to go along with the 2 we play at Mohegan.

Better off playing in an 8 team tourney, with 3 games against better teams...or even a 4 team tourney, with 2 games.

That will give us either one or two more opportunities to schedule better OOC home games.
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URI96 wrote: 4 years ago
To be fair they don’t have a lot of competition for their league title.
Look at their Kenpom and rpi numbers, they are pretty good...they have been top 76 in Kenpom for the last 4 years in a row, and 5 out of the last 7.
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section(105) wrote: 4 years ago ......if we don’t play Brown, the importance Quahog Cup will be diminished........after all, didn’t Brown win that last year?.......
I think it's time to end an away game at a Net 200+ team.
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Adding to the garbage home OOC schedule is the possibility that we may not have home games against St Louis or Richmond. We would need to have them as one of the home and home partners to get them at the RC.
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pc ended there away games against Brown. I think it's time we did the same.
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Brown is the most played opponent all time for URI. Over 160 games first dating back to 1910. A fellow RI school that URI has much shared history with and regularly plays in nearly every sport. The home and away costs no dollars for Rhody. There is virtually no travel every other season for the game in Providence and the game is convenient for alums with it typically played in front of a pro URI crowd. While the loss this year may have stung, it is not the norm as URI has won 45 of the last 52 games in the series. I think for tradition sake this game should continue to be played annually. It is no worse than playing the likes of a Drexel, Quinnipiac, or Lehigh. Besides, it is not like URI is declining far better opponents each year in place of Brown.
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RF1 wrote: 4 years ago Brown is the most played opponent all time for URI. Over 160 games first dating back to 1910. A fellow RI school that URI has much shared history with and regularly plays in nearly every sport. The home and away costs no dollars for Rhody. There is virtually no travel every other season for the game in Providence and the game is convenient for alums with it typically played in front pro URI crowd. I think for tradition sake this game should continued to be played annually. It is no worse than playing the likes of a Drexel, Quinnipiac, or Lehigh. Besides, it is not like URI is declining far better opponents each year in place of Brown.
I'm not talking about HOME games. I'm talking about playing them on the road. Hell, let's play Bryant in Smithfield. Same thing. Just end the away games against Brown.
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theblueram wrote: 4 years ago
RF1 wrote: 4 years ago Brown is the most played opponent all time for URI. Over 160 games first dating back to 1910. A fellow RI school that URI has much shared history with and regularly plays in nearly every sport. The home and away costs no dollars for Rhody. There is virtually no travel every other season for the game in Providence and the game is convenient for alums with it typically played in front pro URI crowd. I think for tradition sake this game should continued to be played annually. It is no worse than playing the likes of a Drexel, Quinnipiac, or Lehigh. Besides, it is not like URI is declining far better opponents each year in place of Brown.
I'm not talking about HOME games. I'm talking about playing them on the road. Hell, let's play Bryant in Smithfield. Same thing. Just end the away games against Brown.
If URI only plays Brown at home, it must pay them a guarantee. This would probably cost somewhere in the neighborhood of the 50k range. I beleive that URI for a short time after the Ryan center opened stopped playing at Brown (played in Kingston 2004, 2005, and 2006). I believe the school later made the decision that it was not worth the cost.
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theblueram wrote: 4 years ago
RF1 wrote: 4 years ago Brown is the most played opponent all time for URI. Over 160 games first dating back to 1910. A fellow RI school that URI has much shared history with and regularly plays in nearly every sport. The home and away costs no dollars for Rhody. There is virtually no travel every other season for the game in Providence and the game is convenient for alums with it typically played in front pro URI crowd. I think for tradition sake this game should continued to be played annually. It is no worse than playing the likes of a Drexel, Quinnipiac, or Lehigh. Besides, it is not like URI is declining far better opponents each year in place of Brown.
I'm not talking about HOME games. I'm talking about playing them on the road. Hell, let's play Bryant in Smithfield. Same thing. Just end the away games against Brown.
If URI only plays Brown at home, it must pay them a guarantee. This would probably cost somewhere in the neighborhood of the 50k range. I beleive that URI for a short time after the Ryan center opened stopped playing at Brown (played in Kingston 2004, 2005, and 2006). I believe the school later made the decision that it was not worth the cost.
Good, then don't play Brown. They suck and are probably the one game I never attend in person. It is one of the worst attended games. It is not a rivalry. It is a game against the dregs of D1 basketball.
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theblueram wrote: 4 years ago
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I'm not talking about HOME games. I'm talking about playing them on the road. Hell, let's play Bryant in Smithfield. Same thing. Just end the away games against Brown.
If URI only plays Brown at home, it must pay them a guarantee. This would probably cost somewhere in the neighborhood of the 50k range. I beleive that URI for a short time after the Ryan center opened stopped playing at Brown (played in Kingston 2004, 2005, and 2006). I believe the school later made the decision that it was not worth the cost.
Good, then don't play Brown. They suck and are probably the one game I never attend in person. It is one of the worst attended games. It is not a rivalry. It is a game against the dregs of D1 basketball.

You make the assumption that somehow URI will replace Brown with a much better opponent. That however does not typically line up with reality. URI doesn't exactly have name teams knocking down the door to play in Kingston.
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theblueram wrote: 4 years ago
RF1 wrote: 4 years ago
theblueram wrote: 4 years ago

I'm not talking about HOME games. I'm talking about playing them on the road. Hell, let's play Bryant in Smithfield. Same thing. Just end the away games against Brown.
If URI only plays Brown at home, it must pay them a guarantee. This would probably cost somewhere in the neighborhood of the 50k range. I beleive that URI for a short time after the Ryan center opened stopped playing at Brown (played in Kingston 2004, 2005, and 2006). I believe the school later made the decision that it was not worth the cost.
Good, then don't play Brown. They suck and are probably the one game I never attend in person. It is one of the worst attended games. It is not a rivalry. It is a game against the dregs of D1 basketball.
blueram, the facts do not support what you say. Brown is an in-state traditional rival and we should play them on a home and home basis. It would waste precious money if we only played them at Ryan and had to pay them a guarantee even if it was only every other year.

Here is the attendance history for the ten Brown games played at Ryan. Not too shabby.

5,859 11/14/08
5,630 11/16/16
5,220 11/19/04
5,015 12/31/14
4,711 11/16/10
4,485 11/28/17
4,471 11/26/05
4,286 12/09/02
3,858 01/04/13
3,271 12/05/06

Interesting to note that the worst Brown game attendance of 3,271 in '06 was larger than the Utah game in that same year.