'14 WI PG - Jarvis Garrett (URI Signed LOI)

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

We will get somebody good. Someone who might take a while to develop, like a Tyson, but we will.

I have confidence in that.

Without confidence, what do we have?

Rod, I'm pissed too, but both you and I knew, we were just waiting for the other shoe to drop with Garrett.

Cynics 'r us. Anything that's too good to be true, usually is.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

"I only hear about Preston's recruits. Does anyone else recruit on this team?"
I love Preston, who's got to be one of the hardest working guys around.
99% of the players in this site are Preston's.
We were told Murray had all these contacts. Carr used to be recruiting coordinator for Rutgers.
We got Hassan because Dan was on the same island for a couple of years,
and Tirone's dad is assistant coach at Curtis High.
Bobby and Dan got Oneykaba.
TJ,EC and Hare were Preston's. So is Watson.
He's literally been recruiting coast to coast.
I hope we don't lose Preston to some bigger program.
Why he hasn't been named Associate Head Coach is beyond me.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

Yes. There are plans B,C and D. But do those plans make us a better team?

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 10 years ago

theblueram wrote:I only hear about Preston's recruits. Does anyone else recruit on this team?

Exactly, you beat me to the punch. Maybe we should focus more on eastern recruits. What's Murray doing?

Another year with the pg's we have now is another year of hindered development of the freshmen.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 10 years ago

I was only responding to the idea that a staff would be without back-up plans. Of course they're not always ideal; that's why they weren't the first options.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

Would be nice to get some answers about recruiting.

I know some of it's going to be hush-hush, but look at the [non]results for 2014.

Will 2015-16 be any different?

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Terrell was a New England recruit. His coach is close to Preston.
Garrett goes to school in MA. Cimino, too.
The NJ connection that we figured Dan would bring, other than
transfers and Aaman, has produced little.
EC is from Detroit, TJ is from Detroit, Watson is from Florida, Butler is from Memphis.
All Preston's. Garrett would have been, too. It's like PMurph or bust.
The days of just recruiting Philly and NY are gone.

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 10 years ago

Really think this staff needs an overhaul in the off-season. Assistant coaches are paid to recruit, help install an offense and defense, and develop players. Other than Preston on the recruiting trail (and 2014 has been iffy at best), I am not sure how you can give any of these guys a good grade in any of those areas. Maybe Rhody has budget restrictions.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

Rod, I think that Preston is on the road a lot more than the other two. He's doing most of the recruiting.

The others I think are spending more time with the team.

As for NJ connections, I don't get it. There is basically nothing there right now. Very surprising.

We can have connections, they can steer recruits toward us, but the kids themselves make the ultimate decision.

They see URI as a program that has had very little success lately. They want to play for a winner, not a wannabe winner.

Promises, promises. They aren't worth much nowadays. Kids want results.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:Rod, I think that Preston is on the road a lot more than the other two. He's doing most of the recruiting.

The others I think are spending more time with the team.

As for NJ connections, I don't get it. There is basically nothing there right now. Very surprising.

We can have connections, they can steer recruits toward us, but the kids themselves make the ultimate decision.

They see URI as a program that has had very little success lately. They want to play for a winner, not a wannabe winner.

Promises, promises. They aren't worth much nowadays. Kids want results.

Someone pointed out that a lot of coaches in the NJ area are not big fans of Bob Sr. If that is the case, why would these coaches steer their players towards Dan?

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 10 years ago

I too am not sold on the value of our staff besides DH and PM. I think the contributions of support staff are tougher for the average fan to see, but besides getting to sit behind Bill at the game what has his son brought? He is the best dressed guy on the staff. Maybe that counts for something.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

That is true, Billyboy.

Plus, kids who played for Sr. might not want to play for Dan, as has been mentioned here before.

Too tough. Too bad.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:That is true, Billyboy.

Plus, kids who played for Sr. might not want to play for Dan, as has been mentioned here before.

Too tough. Too bad.

I was talking more about the coaches whose teams have been beat down by St. Anthony's year after year, for many years.

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 10 years ago

Can we please dispense with the theories that the old man is too tough? The kids wouldn't want to that again. Terry Dehere went to play for PJ. Rodrick rhodes played for Pitino. Kyle Anderson signed with Ben Howland. All ball buster coaches. There are dozens others. Not to mention that most HS basketball coaches are freaking maniacs. Senior is not the exception. In any event, it's the AAU circuit coaches that rule the day.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 10 years ago

Gonebarongone wrote:Can we please dispense with the theories that the old man is too tough? The kids wouldn't want to that again. Terry Dehere went to play for PJ. Rodrick rhodes played for Pitino. Kyle Anderson signed with Ben Howland. All ball buster coaches. There are dozens others. Not to mention that most HS basketball coaches are freaking maniacs. Senior is not the exception. In any event, it's the AAU circuit coaches that rule the day.

Yes, thank you.

(And a Terry Dehere reference? That made my day. Shout out to Jerry Walker, too!)

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 10 years ago

Agree with the above, the guy is a legend in these parts I highly doubt there is a coup amongst New Jersey HS coaches to not send their players to play for his son. Ridiculous speculation. I wonder how Bobby Knight ever attracted players with his rep?

Rhodymob05 · Unread post by **Rhodymob05** » 10 years ago

What a horrible recruiting season. How can we be this bad. Even Fordham is getting more players

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

That theory was handed down by someone close to the program.
But, you people think it's absurd. OK.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:That theory was handed down by someone close to the program.
But, you people think it's absurd. OK.

Yes, I am absurd.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 10 years ago

But the point is, lots of other people (AAU types and the like) often have a lot more power over where these guys go now than high school coaches.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 10 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:
rodfromcranston wrote:That theory was handed down by someone close to the program.
But, you people think it's absurd. OK.
Yes, I am absurd.

We all are Billyboy. We are like the pre-2004 Red Sox fans. We want a championship. We will get it someday. We will.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

theblueram wrote:
Billyboy78 wrote:
rodfromcranston wrote:That theory was handed down by someone close to the program.
But, you people think it's absurd. OK.
Yes, I am absurd.
We all are Billyboy. We are like the pre-2004 Red Sox fans. We want a championship. We will get it someday. We will.

It better happen pretty soon....for me anyway.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Ditto. I don't have a whole lot of time left in this life,
and I'd really like to experience what I felt in '78-'88-'98.
We're one step forward, one step back these days.
If anyone thinks losing out on the number one unsigned PG
is no big deal, I have two words for them, and it's not Merry Christmas.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Ditto. I don't have a whole lot of time left in this life,
and I'd really like to experience what I felt in '78-'88-'98.
We're one step forward, one step back these days.
If anyone thinks losing out on the number one unsigned PG
is no big deal, I have two words for them, and it's not Merry Christmas.

It's a very big deal. Our young players are not growing into their potential without a good point guard. And as of now, we don't have one.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

Right now, the pressure is on Dan big time, to get that PG we so desperately need.

I, too, am not going to be around forever. I'd like to enjoy some success before I get too old to enjoy it!

It would be terrible if EC's and Hassan's potential here isn't fully realized due to the lack of a playmaking PG.

RIFan · Unread post by **RIFan** » 10 years ago

Having this much recruiting information is good and bad...are we really losing out on more recruits, or is this normal, and we just know about it now? Or is he shooting too high and missing, and is he not paying enough attention to our traditional level of recruit so we'll miss out on them too? I have no idea...but I do know that if you don't shoot for the top you will never hit the top.

I do agree that we have a major inferiority complex, even though the results and computers say our league is on par or better than some BCS ones. The perception may be that we are a step below, but the leagues results and RPI...say differently. The A10 needs to hire a better PR team.

And I'm going to say it again...I think this is where we really miss Bobby....especially when recruiting PGs. He is the star with the rings, the record and the rep. He is the one who is mentioned with the greatest NCAA players of all time.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 10 years ago

What's going on? I've been shoveling all day…..

RhodyRams12 · Unread post by **RhodyRams12** » 10 years ago

^Go back to page 10 and look for a tweet about a quarter of the page down

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 10 years ago

It is crazy people are saying that next year is a wash because we didn't sign a 5"10 pg that isn't ranked and played a few good games at RIC. I hope/hoped we would get him but I doubt very much an 18 year old kid under 6 feet and under 170 pounds would come in and beat out Tj and biggie when their pretty much men.

We absolutely need a point guard we can count on but we have basically been point guardless since Robinson was done. Parfait was a 2 and jones wasn't very good. I guess billy was a stud but we didn't benefit.

The staff will figure out how to squeeze every win out of next year. No doubt. They will play to the personnel and schedule accordingly. Don't give up hope.

rhodylaw · Unread post by **rhodylaw** » 10 years ago

So...he isn't deciding this weekend. That does not mean we are out of the running. Even if he verbaled this weekend we would have worried until he signed. Does not change a thing in my mind, we still have a good shot at a quality player.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

Well, staff should be on at least 2 or 3 PG's right now.

A couple we may not know about. So, we'll see.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 10 years ago

I’m just curious, I must have missed it while I was skimming through this thread. Uh, which program did Garrett commit to today that’s made everyone go nuts? Oh, he didn’t actually commit to another school today? No shit! I could have sworn he was going somewhere else the way everyone’s been talking.

He can’t formally commit to any school until April, and new schools now appear interested. Frankly, he’d be stupid to decide now. This is the most important decision he’s made in his life to this point, and it might be the most important decision he’ll ever make. Unlike the coaches who are recruiting him, he can’t just pick up and go somewhere else if he so chooses without a penalty. So he’s smart to consider all information he can gather from now until April. We lament the whims of high school/college age people, but look at the mood swings on this board.

Indiana might never offer. Garrett might decide he wants to come here because we’ve been in on him all along. Frankly, not a whole lot changed today.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

RR, you haven't been here long enough to appreciate the psyche of long time suffering URI fans.

Yes he hasn't gone anywhere yet, but can you say you are as optimistic about him as it seemed just earlier today?

I'd like to agree with you, and hopefully you turn out right, but......

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 10 years ago

I've been on every single one of these boards with the same name since the Projo board when Jerry D was coach. I had to be part of the student section when he was the coach, I get it. If we lost him, I'd understand the freaking out, but let's have a little perspective. It's not like we ever had him. And he can still come here.

CT Rhody · Unread post by **CT Rhody** » 10 years ago

This is an 18 year old kid afterall and he hasn't made the wrong decision yet. With the opportunity and coaching staff that we offer, I don't see how he passes us up unless he has had his eyes elsewhere all along.

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 10 years ago

I don't see this kid as being smart because he wants to check all his options. if that was the case, why did he say he would announce by Sunday? His timeline, no one else's. By many accounts, 2 schools but only 1 offer. Couldn't get much simpler if he wants to play here.
I'm beginning to wonder if anyone wants to come here.

Rhodymob05 · Unread post by **Rhodymob05** » 10 years ago

Obviously he doesn't want to play here, he would have verbaled already.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

Rhodymob05 wrote:Obviously he doesn't want to play here, he would have verbaled already.

I'm sure he would play here if he doesn't get a better offer. But, Dan can't sit around and wait for Jarvis either. The same thing happened with that PG from Canada last year. (I can't remember his name). Time to move on.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Kaza Keane part deux.
Kid wanted Pitt, thought we'd wait forever.
Minnis became available and Keane was on
the outside looking in, because Pitt never materialized.
Same deal as Marquette with plenty of guards already there or coming in..
He was hurt and surprised, tried to have his coach intervene,
but it was all too late.
Luckily, he's been a bust, so far.

Rhodymob05 · Unread post by **Rhodymob05** » 10 years ago

You never know though

Smokinjimit · Unread post by **Smokinjimit** » 10 years ago

We saw this coming. He wants an offer that he may never get.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 10 years ago

Jarvis, Jarvis, Jarvis…………………
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmX2VzsB25s

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

according to Finkelstein...

@ScottCordischi Indiana, Purdue, Mizzou, Oregon State just a few who are now in the mix supposedly

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

What? No Oklahoma State?
Amazing how all these schools just crept out of the woodwork.

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 10 years ago

I had a feeling this would happen.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

So, when Jarvis makes his new list, are we even on it?

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 10 years ago

Gonebarongone wrote:I have no problem with a kid who thinks he is good enough to play in the Big East or Big Ten. I thought rankings aren't the end all now we give a kid grief because he thinks he can beat out the #53 player? C'mon. I want a PG who thinks he is the best player on the floor. He did not commit to URI and then back out. For all we know, he has told the staff this is where he stands. The reality is if URI wants to be involved in competing with Oklahoma State or Indiana or Marquette, this is how it goes. Of course, have to win some of them eventually.

The reality, in this case, was URI was not competing against Marquette and Indiana, neither of which has offered and likely won't. URI was competing with Creighton and teams like that who Garrett has eliminated. In the end, URI was competing against itself and he decided he doesn't want to go to URI. Hurley and Preston will move on. They did a great job recruiting him and it didn't work out. Garrett's mistake was that he announced, through his coach, that it was down to URI and Marquette and he would make a decision on Sunday. That was odd considering Marquette hadn't offered. He should've waited. But 18-year-olds make mistakes.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

Iggy1979 wrote:
Gonebarongone wrote:I have no problem with a kid who thinks he is good enough to play in the Big East or Big Ten. I thought rankings aren't the end all now we give a kid grief because he thinks he can beat out the #53 player? C'mon. I want a PG who thinks he is the best player on the floor. He did not commit to URI and then back out. For all we know, he has told the staff this is where he stands. The reality is if URI wants to be involved in competing with Oklahoma State or Indiana or Marquette, this is how it goes. Of course, have to win some of them eventually.
The reality, in this case, was URI was not competing against Marquette and Indiana, neither of which has offered and likely won't. URI was competing with Creighton and teams like that who Garrett has eliminated. In the end, URI was competing against itself and he decided he doesn't want to go to URI. Hurley and Preston will move on. They did a great job recruiting him and it didn't work out. Garrett's mistake was that he announced, through his coach, that it was down to URI and Marquette and he would make a decision on Sunday. That was odd considering Marquette hadn't offered. He should've waited. But 18-year-olds make mistakes.

So, we are no longer involved with him. Well, that sucks. Might as well kill this thread.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 10 years ago

Look at his new list. All closer to home except Oregon St. He's not going to a school in the northeast.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Pretty odd that we go from number one to number none in
the blink of an eye.
Very strange, to say the least.