Game #14: @ Duquesne - Saturday @ 1pm

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

Shinze88 wrote:Again and Again, game after game, we need to get kicked in the teeth before we start playing, very unsettling. So far all perimeter shots against a team where Gil and Has should dominate. We need to attack the zone with dribble penetration and not settle for jumpers. Lets GO !!!!!

Serious question: are watching the game? We got out to a 9-4 lead (kicked in the teeth?), and we are attacking the zone in the right way by reversing the ball and sending guys through the middle and running the baseline. Just chill.

Shinze88 · Unread post by **Shinze88** » 9 years ago

adam914 wrote:
Shinze88 wrote:Again and Again, game after game, we need to get kicked in the teeth before we start playing, very unsettling. So far all perimeter shots against a team where Gil and Has should dominate. We need to attack the zone with dribble penetration and not settle for jumpers. Lets GO !!!!!
Being down 4-0 isnt exactly kicked in the teeth in my opinion...

you're missing the point - we let teams inferior team dictate the pace of the game instead of taking it to them. We are suppose to be the better more athletic team, lets establish that from the opening tab.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Reischel with is usual muff of an easy basket.
Biruta not bending to catch a low pass.
WTF?

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

Gil has the widest schism between his good plays and bad plays. Sometimes he does things that make him look like a legitimately skilled basketball player, and sometimes he just looks useless.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

Gil and Reischell cannot be on the floor....get Watson in the damn game.

ram1980 · Unread post by **ram1980** » 9 years ago

our offense is putrid!!!!!!!!!!!!! If it doesn't improve we are going nowhere...

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 9 years ago

The more teams play zone against us the tougher and closer these conference games are going to be and most often if we're gonna win it aint gonna be pretty.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 9 years ago

Why do we play so scared? Attack! Puzzling.....really.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

adam914 wrote:The more teams play zone against us the tougher and closer these conference games are going to be and most often if we're gonna win it aint gonna be pretty.

Unfortunately there is no reason for anyone to play anything other than zone against us, so we are going to need to figure out a way to attack it.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

Garrett
TJ
EC
Hassan
Watson

That should be our lineup until one of those guys collapses.

ram1980 · Unread post by **ram1980** » 9 years ago

obvious why we are still recruiting point guards.. Garret has potential. Minnis is not very good.. Matthews is not a point guard..

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 9 years ago

I hate playing bad teams! They keep playing their ass off!

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Agree, TP.
I hate the way we're playing here.
Foirget Biruta when the other team is in a zone.
He's useless.
Why Reischel ever sees floor time is beyond me.
Biggie is sucking with bad passes.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

5 TOs by our PGs, our kryptonite. No dribble penetration and no paint touches. Agree we need TJ on the high post, Gil hasn't proven capable.

Andrew · Unread post by **Andrew** » 9 years ago

Unreal play where we have numbers on a fast break, but turn it over and Mason gets an and-1 the other way. Brutal.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

All perimeter shots, and we don't have any good shooters on the floor.

Rhody Guy · Unread post by **Rhody Guy** » 9 years ago

I am begging for some post ups, we don't look in, and our bigs don't bother posting. I hope it isn't by design.

reckless jake · Unread post by **reckless jake** » 9 years ago

Personally I've seen enough of Biruta to say --with evidence-- that he's way overrated on the floor. He's slow to the ball, he has terrible hands, is very soft around the rim and drops his head and doesn't recover from his mistakes. Just a realistic appraisal.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 9 years ago

TP I agree but I would go Garrett, EC, Watson, Hass and Gil

zporiri · Unread post by **zporiri** » 9 years ago

It looks like we've never seen a 2-3 defense before

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 9 years ago

Wow we have found a way to play worse than the Fordham game...

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

This is actually worse than the Fordham second half

Rhody Guy · Unread post by **Rhody Guy** » 9 years ago

Shinze88 · Unread post by **Shinze88** » 9 years ago

So are we getting kicked in the teeth yet ?

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 9 years ago

BASELINE IS WIDE OPEN!!!!!!

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

theblueram wrote:TP I agree but I would go Garrett, EC, Watson, Hass and Gil

Gil is useless. TJ is the only guy that gives consistent effort. He needs to be in the game.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 9 years ago

I'd be ok with EC not firing up anymore contested 3's for a bit.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

CAN WE SUCK ANY WORSE????
This is the worst game we've played all year, given the shit we're playing.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

Shinze88 wrote:So are we getting kicked in the teeth yet ?

We definitely look toothless on offense, at least. Your comment was just puzzling because it came during our only good two minute stretch of the game.

reckless jake · Unread post by **reckless jake** » 9 years ago

Garrett needs to shoot the open jumper. It's there for him to take.

section(105) · Unread post by **section(105)** » 9 years ago

Not only teams play us zone, then even pack the zone in the lane and force us to waste clock a thens bombs away from three.......

ram1980 · Unread post by **ram1980** » 9 years ago

well we only play man to man, so how much zone do you think we practice against.. All well and good to go small, but when you can't shoot you need to be able to get some 2nd chance points.. Not doing that with 4 guard offense.. transition needs to be the game and we are not efficient at that either..

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

OK, if we insist on taking all perimeter shots, and missing almost all of them, would it make sense to have an offensive rebounder in the game.....like Earl?

section(105) · Unread post by **section(105)** » 9 years ago

Jarvis needs to take shots that he passes up....

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 9 years ago

What exactly is Butler's role out there, every time he gets the ball on the wing he immediately fires it right back to the point like "oh shit no don't give it to me"

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 9 years ago

Please runs some screens for Martin on the baseline!!! Please!!!

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 9 years ago

theblueram wrote:TP I agree but I would go Garrett, EC, Watson, Hass and Gil

so here is Garrett and Minnis with zero assists between them and 5 turnovers between them

Here you have TJ with a great pass to Martin for the jam
TJ also with a fake pass then dish to EC for a layup
TJ with 3 assists to lead the team and 5 rebounds to lead the team and he is not in your lineup?

TJ may not be a point guard but he is the best we have

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

Biggest waste of a Saturday afternoon ever

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

Call Jim Ferry Dan's daddy.

gorhody89 · Unread post by **gorhody89** » 9 years ago

Plenty of time...regroup and come out strong

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

gorhody89 wrote:Plenty of time...regroup and come out strong

50 point second half?

Blue Man · Unread post by **Blue Man** » 9 years ago

TJ, EC, Terrell, Martin, Watson.

Can someone fucking tell me why we haven't seen that yet?

This is fucking embarrassing.

BPR2010 · Unread post by **BPR2010** » 9 years ago

Not able to watch myself, but just caught the boxscore. Saw we've already taken 11 3 pointers, and zero FT's. I know we struggle against zones, but by those 2 stats in the boxscore, I'm guessing we're not getting the ball inside and settling for long jumpers? Dribble penetration in the zone, will lead to fouls. Settling for jumpers won't, but for those watching, is that the gist of what's going on?

section(105) · Unread post by **section(105)** » 9 years ago

OK Coach, let's see what adjustments you can come up with, if we start the second half like this, Mamma Ram says we are going to the beach.....

Andrew · Unread post by **Andrew** » 9 years ago

Only down 8 after the worst half we've played this year. Still very winnable.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

EC 2 for 11
0 assists and 5 TOs at PG
Gil invisible
Again Hass and TJ are the only ones with consistency

BPR, nailed it on the head....ZERO dribble penetration from any of our guards. Terrell, EC and our PGs playing like a deer in headlights against the zone.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 9 years ago

I don't care if they start kicking these guys in the balls. The second half better be completely different.

Shinze88 · Unread post by **Shinze88** » 9 years ago

I know we are sucking as strongly as you can possibly suck, but I'm most puzzled at how we seem to be so unprepared to face any kind of zone that we know teams will play against us. EC looks like a freshman today on both ends of the floor. We need a point guard who can penetrate a zone and make things happen, its obvious at this point in the season we dont have that.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

Has there ever been a game where a team doesn't shoot a free throw? I know we don't shoot them well, but......when every shot is a 20 foot shot, you're not going to get too many fouls against the opponent.

giovanni · Unread post by **giovanni** » 9 years ago

Duquesne is 290th rated defense in country and we have 19 pts.