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rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 6 years ago

Kind of surprising. Would have been a HUGE raise for him.

Maybe they weren't offering him what they offered Hurley?

steveystuds06 · Unread post by **steveystuds06** » 6 years ago

Pitt fans would have lost their minds if they hired Schmidt.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 6 years ago

Glad he's staying in our league. Good coach.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 6 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:Kind of surprising. Would have been a HUGE raise for him.

Maybe they weren't offering him what they offered Hurley?

He may have only taken his name out of consideration because he knew he wouldn't be getting the job. It could just be a face saving move. This happens quite a bit.

Matunuck · Unread post by **Matunuck** » 6 years ago

RF1 wrote:
rambone 78 wrote:Kind of surprising. Would have been a HUGE raise for him.

Maybe they weren't offering him what they offered Hurley?

He may have only taken his name out of consideration because he knew he wouldn't be getting the job. It could just be a face saving move. This happens quite a bit.

Reading between the lines, I think this is what happened here. Sounds like Oats is out also. Not sure who is left but Becker.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 6 years ago

Vermont to the ACC? Doubt it. They can have Slick.

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 6 years ago

At this point, I think Pitt is probably going to end up with a high-major Assistant getting their first HC job. Might work out well for them, but I don't think it'll be a "splash" hire. Or to phrase it the way some others here have - no "buzz."

PillPushr · Unread post by **PillPushr** » 6 years ago

I have heard Jon Scheyer, assistant at Duke, is possibly the guy for Pitt.

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Unread post by **TruePoint** » 6 years ago

PillPushr wrote:I have heard Jon Scheyer, assistant at Duke, is possibly the guy for Pitt.

Close!

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 6 years ago

Capel was once the head coach at VCU and later Oklahoma. He has experience running a program.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 6 years ago

TruePoint wrote:

Also, former VCU coach, though not mentioned:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Cape ... University

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 6 years ago

Yup. He was promoted to the head job from assistant. It works sometimes!

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 6 years ago

Scheyer is still a few years away from being ready to run a high major program. No way he was getting Pitt.

reckless jake · Unread post by **reckless jake** » 6 years ago

Assuming that Coach Cox is named our Head Coach, if Chris Mack goes to Louisville and takes Travis Steele and/or Luke Murray with him, will Naji Marshall ask for his release?

Marshall is from the DC area, we were on his final list of schools, he is friends with Jermaine Harris and we still have that 1 open scholarship.

FattsAndFurious · Unread post by **FattsAndFurious** » 6 years ago

reckless jake wrote:Assuming that Coach Cox is named our Head Coach, if Chris Mack goes to Louisville and takes Travis Steele and/or Luke Murray with him, will Naji Marshall ask for his release?

Marshall is from the DC area, we were on his final list of schools, he is friends with Jermaine Harris and we still have that 1 open scholarship.

If Naji Marshall transfers, schools like UNC, Duke, Kentucky, etc will be all over him. No way in hell would he consider going to the A10.

sevegny7 · Unread post by **sevegny7** » 6 years ago

reckless jake wrote:Assuming that Coach Cox is named our Head Coach, if Chris Mack goes to Louisville and takes Travis Steele and/or Luke Murray with him, will Naji Marshall ask for his release?

Marshall is from the DC area, we were on his final list of schools, he is friends with Jermaine Harris and we still have that 1 open scholarship.

I wondered the same thing last night actually. That would be amazing. One thing that could affect all that is if Xavier hires from within and the now promoted assistant can hang on to him.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 6 years ago

That would probably be a guy who I'd use a roster spot for this year, although generally my preference would be someone that could contribute next season and add a little more age and experience, i.e., a JUCO or a 5th year. Wouldn't the most likely thing (beyond him just staying put at Xavier) be that he ends up Louisville?

sevegny7 · Unread post by **sevegny7** » 6 years ago

TruePoint wrote:That would probably be a guy who I'd use a roster spot for this year, although generally my preference would be someone that could contribute next season and add a little more age and experience, i.e., a JUCO or a 5th year. Wouldn't the most likely thing (beyond him just staying put at Xavier) be that he ends up Louisville?

Yeah I agree with this take. The potential of that team the following year after him sitting out would be off the charts and tough to pass up. But yeah ideally juco/grad. Transfer. The Louisville aspect I feel like has some moving parts depending on the NCAA violations and sanctions that are headed way.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 6 years ago

reckless jake wrote:Assuming that Coach Cox is named our Head Coach, if Chris Mack goes to Louisville and takes Travis Steele and/or Luke Murray with him, will Naji Marshall ask for his release?

Marshall is from the DC area, we were on his final list of schools, he is friends with Jermaine Harris and we still have that 1 open scholarship.

Top flight conspiracy theory

I like it

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 6 years ago

Seems like a decent hire for Pitt a guy with experience knows the ACC

Rhode_Island_Red · Unread post by **Rhode_Island_Red** » 6 years ago

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TruePoint wrote:
PillPushr wrote:I have heard Jon Scheyer, assistant at Duke, is possibly the guy for Pitt.
Close!

Has any of Coach Kmart's assistants done anything?

Da_Process_Survivor · Unread post by **Da_Process_Survivor** » 6 years ago

Rhode_Island_Red wrote:
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TruePoint wrote:
PillPushr wrote:I have heard Jon Scheyer, assistant at Duke, is possibly the guy for Pitt.
Close!
Has any of Coach Kmart's assistants done anything?

only one is Mike Brey

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 6 years ago

Capel was one of those mentioned to take the Duke HC position when K retires.

They have gotten the number one recruiting class in the country several times lately.

Thank God for one and dones, or they would probably win the title about every year.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 6 years ago

Rhode_Island_Red wrote:
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TruePoint wrote:
PillPushr wrote:I have heard Jon Scheyer, assistant at Duke, is possibly the guy for Pitt.
Close!
Has any of Coach Kmart's assistants done anything?

Just recently off the top of my head, Chris Collins got Northwestern to the NCAA tournament last year, which is a pretty big accomplishment in some way because it was their first time ever. Woj0 has not been great at Marquette.

giovanni · Unread post by **giovanni** » 6 years ago

Mike Brey.

NJRhodyFan · Unread post by **NJRhodyFan** » 6 years ago

In other news, it looks like Pitt has hired Duke assistant Jeff Capel to be their next head coach.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... jeff-capel

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 6 years ago

Not other news. That is why were talking about Duke assistants getting head jobs.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 6 years ago

Getting head jobs? Now now TP.........

rhodylaw · Unread post by **rhodylaw** » 6 years ago

sevegny7 wrote:
TruePoint wrote:That would probably be a guy who I'd use a roster spot for this year, although generally my preference would be someone that could contribute next season and add a little more age and experience, i.e., a JUCO or a 5th year. Wouldn't the most likely thing (beyond him just staying put at Xavier) be that he ends up Louisville?
Yeah I agree with this take. The potential of that team the following year after him sitting out would be off the charts and tough to pass up. But yeah ideally juco/grad. Transfer. The Louisville aspect I feel like has some moving parts depending on the NCAA violations and sanctions that are headed way.

I don’t think you need to sit out if the coach leaves - or is that rule not in effect yet.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 6 years ago

rhodylaw wrote:
sevegny7 wrote:
TruePoint wrote:That would probably be a guy who I'd use a roster spot for this year, although generally my preference would be someone that could contribute next season and add a little more age and experience, i.e., a JUCO or a 5th year. Wouldn't the most likely thing (beyond him just staying put at Xavier) be that he ends up Louisville?
Yeah I agree with this take. The potential of that team the following year after him sitting out would be off the charts and tough to pass up. But yeah ideally juco/grad. Transfer. The Louisville aspect I feel like has some moving parts depending on the NCAA violations and sanctions that are headed way.
I don’t think you need to sit out if the coach leaves - or is that rule not in effect yet.

Good question. I'm not sure if signing a NLOI has an affect or not. Would one have to sit a year if transferring? Can you transfer before you are officially enrolled?

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Unread post by **TruePoint** » 6 years ago

steviep123 wrote:
rhodylaw wrote:
sevegny7 wrote:
Yeah I agree with this take. The potential of that team the following year after him sitting out would be off the charts and tough to pass up. But yeah ideally juco/grad. Transfer. The Louisville aspect I feel like has some moving parts depending on the NCAA violations and sanctions that are headed way.
I don’t think you need to sit out if the coach leaves - or is that rule not in effect yet.
Good question. I'm not sure if signing a NLOI has an affect or not. Would one have to sit a year if transferring? Can you transfer before you are officially enrolled?

Naji Marshall played for Xavier last year. Started about half the games and averaged about 8 ppg.

You still have to sit out a year if you transfer, even if your coach leaves. They have not changed that rule. If you have only signed a LOI, you can seek a release from your school. If you have enrolled, I believe you are treated like any other transfer (I can't recall specifically, but I believe there was a situation involving this very point in the last couple years - maybe involving an Ohio State player after Matta left and before Holtmann took over).

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 6 years ago

Wow! (on the Mack news. $4 mil per year)

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 6 years ago

TruePoint wrote:
steviep123 wrote:
rhodylaw wrote:
I don’t think you need to sit out if the coach leaves - or is that rule not in effect yet.
Good question. I'm not sure if signing a NLOI has an affect or not. Would one have to sit a year if transferring? Can you transfer before you are officially enrolled?
IDK, but Naji Marshall played for Xavier last year. Started about half the games and averaged about 8 ppg.

Ah, I assumed you were talking about one of our recruits or a recruit that signed somewhere but hadn't enrolled yet.

The current rule is if you transfer as a player (which Marshall qualifies) he would have to sit. They are trying to change it so that you don't have to sit a year unless you go to the same school your coach just went to.

rhodyruckus · Unread post by **rhodyruckus** » 6 years ago

TruePoint wrote:

I imagine the One Shining Podcast guys will have takes on this. They always joke about Duke "dropping bags" and have hinted before about when the man hit with violations at OU went right over to became K's assistant and suddenly they were in the "one and done" recruiting game.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 6 years ago

It would appear Big East positions are not destination jobs for all - Buzz Williams at Marquette (Va Tech), Holtmann at Butler (Ohio State), and now Mack at Xavier (Louisville). Even rumors of Willard at Seton Hall looking around.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 6 years ago

I love Chris Mack. I think he’ll kill it at Louisville. Also nice to see Luke Murray continue to rise in the ranks.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 6 years ago

Someone (RamIt?) posted it on the New Coaching thread, but should be mentioned here:

I agree here. If you have a good succession plan in place, you should follow it. If you don't, then get one.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 6 years ago

Johnny Dawkins never really panned out as head coach

Wow Chris Mack got a huge raise good for him

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 6 years ago

TruePoint wrote:Yup. He was promoted to the head job from assistant. It works sometimes!

giovanni · Unread post by **giovanni** » 6 years ago

RF1 wrote:It would appear Big East positions are not destination jobs for all - Buzz Williams at Marquette (Va Tech), Holtmann at Butler (Ohio State), and now Mack at Xavier (Louisville). Even rumors of Willard at Seton Hall looking around.

Don't tell that to the Big East fans, the ones I know anyway. There is not a better conference , better players , better coaches, so on. But, then there are the P5 football schools type money , facilities , huge schools and overall landscape of these big football schools.

With the 4 million for Mack, I believe his is doubling his salary, which I thought I read was 1.9 million. And if I am not mistaken, I believe I heard Holtmann is making 7.5 million a year at Ohio St and is now listed as the 3rd highest paid coach behind Krzyzewski and Calipari. Just like Hurley, its all about the money. Those figures would be tough to turn down for anyone .

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 6 years ago

The big money that the BE schools get from Fox has 7 more years left to run....when that contract is up, will they continue to get that much?

The difference between PC's BB budget and ours is largely due to that 4 million a year.....

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 6 years ago

Go after this guy. Eligible immediately

giovanni · Unread post by **giovanni** » 6 years ago

Kid can play. Even though Ivy League guy, I was not surprised at all he was going to transfer to a level like Xavier. I believe he sat out basically all year with injury. Makai Mason from Yale is a grad transfer going to Baylor too, quite a bit different culture.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 6 years ago

We need a knockdown shooter, preferably a wing imo.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 6 years ago

giovanni wrote:Kid can play. Even though Ivy League guy, I was not surprised at all he was going to transfer to a level like Xavier. I believe he sat out basically all year with injury. Makai Mason from Yale is a grad transfer going to Baylor too, quite a bit different culture.

Yale...to Baylor?? Wow....

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 6 years ago

Rhody83 wrote:Go after this guy. Eligible immediately

We don't even have a coach.