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I think Cooley has everything he needs at pc......no need to leverage job openings to get the pc admins to make improvements.....so the word goes out through back channels that he has no interest in leaving his home town......Hurley has to leverage outside interest into the improvements he wants at Rhode Island.....and he doesn't seem to mind having his name out there in the media swirl when better paying jobs open up.........
.....it could be interesting when more P5 jobs open in the future.....assuming Cooley continues to progress pc to being a perennial tourney participant.....and football money can double what he makes at pc.........it is easy to turn down $2.2M when you are making $2M......harder to turn down $4M when you are making that $2M....
.....I've gotten friendly with a few coaches in my life.......it is hard to ask them to turn down doubling or tripling their salary to stay here for short money......I want the best for my friends.....
....I'd like Hurley to stay here two more years to finish his job before he takes that next leap to a P5 team......
.....it could be interesting when more P5 jobs open in the future.....assuming Cooley continues to progress pc to being a perennial tourney participant.....and football money can double what he makes at pc.........it is easy to turn down $2.2M when you are making $2M......harder to turn down $4M when you are making that $2M....
.....I've gotten friendly with a few coaches in my life.......it is hard to ask them to turn down doubling or tripling their salary to stay here for short money......I want the best for my friends.....
....I'd like Hurley to stay here two more years to finish his job before he takes that next leap to a P5 team......
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Cooley needs to improve big time with his Xs and Os. He needs to ditch the flex offense he learned while working for Skinner at BC and really try to open up the floor.
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There's not even 10 coaches that make over 3 million. You think Cooley is getting 4 in some weird future?
Most of the coaches with any success fall between the 2-3 million figure.
Most of the coaches with any success fall between the 2-3 million figure.
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Yes....the cost of coaching is going up....look at what the top level mid majors are paying now...
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Rick Pitino's base is 3.9 million.
No way Cooley is on the same planet resume wise.
No way Cooley is on the same planet resume wise.
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New Fordham Coach went on the ESPN New York Michael Kay show yesterday. Listen here to a pretty good interview where Jeff Neubauer is challenged on many fronts on how his coaching will be different from all the others before him since they joined the A10.
Neubauer says all the right things, but I'm not sure how much I buy it. Maybe he's just that confident when nobody else is? Good luck.
Listen to the On-Demand Podcast here:
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=12594538
Neubauer says all the right things, but I'm not sure how much I buy it. Maybe he's just that confident when nobody else is? Good luck.
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Jeff Neubauer could be John Wooden, Dean Smith and Bobby Knight all rolled into one, but unless the Fordham administration sees a proctologist to find its head Neubauer will fail.
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Not to drag this back down to the flex argument again but there is no correlation between the flex offense and tempo. Maryland ran the flex with Gary W. and was as high as #2 in the entire country in tempo. BC with Troy Bell was up tempo. It can be done and coaches who know what they are doing can run it at pace.eli#10 wrote:Cooley needs to improve big time with his Xs and Os. He needs to ditch the flex offense he learned while working for Skinner at BC and really try to open up the floor.
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yep! here is the ncaa teams coaches salary Cooley 1.2M Archie Miller 652K, Bobby Hurley 315KSeawrightspostgame wrote:There's not even 10 coaches that make over 3 million. You think Cooley is getting 4 in some weird future?
Most of the coaches with any success fall between the 2-3 million figure.
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salarie ... ball/coach
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Wait, I didn't see Cooley on that list.
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I figured if a Texas-like job opened this season Shaka would give it great consideration and leave. After losing two major cogs in his team to graduation and having the season fizzle out due to the injury to his key defensive star, he doesn't want to risk his brand stalling out or getting passe.
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Gregg Marshall is getting paid at Wichita State- turned down Alabama. Now set to earn 3+ million/year.
And, #Shakawatch
The timing seems right. VCU should be able to get someone very good, which helps the conference.
And, #Shakawatch
The timing seems right. VCU should be able to get someone very good, which helps the conference.
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From everything I've recently read about Steve Patterson, he's not the kind of person you want to work for. Money's nice but if you're successful, it will be there elsewhere. Beware Shaka..
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Not hearing a lot of good things about the Texas AD Patterson.
If Shaka doesn't take that job, that might be the reason.
RJ, you beat me to it....
If Shaka doesn't take that job, that might be the reason.
RJ, you beat me to it....
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I think ATP hit the nail on the head.
If HAVOC was really Briante Webber and his teammates feeding
off his results, Smart is wise to move.
A couple of seasons like this one and failure to get past the
first round in the NCAA, may dim his star.
He can make a boatload of money and have a rich recruiting
ground, in Texas.
Besides, with Charlie Strong as their football coach, they can be
marketed as "Strong and Smart!"
If HAVOC was really Briante Webber and his teammates feeding
off his results, Smart is wise to move.
A couple of seasons like this one and failure to get past the
first round in the NCAA, may dim his star.
He can make a boatload of money and have a rich recruiting
ground, in Texas.
Besides, with Charlie Strong as their football coach, they can be
marketed as "Strong and Smart!"
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I wonder who VCU would go after if, and it's a big IF, Shaka heads to Texas.
Mike Rhoades (Rice head coach) is too inexperienced and unproven at this point, but a couple years ago when Shaka was talking about leaving I know his name was thrown around.
Anthony Grant coming back would go with the trend this year of old coaches coming back home...
Obviously VCU is a top notch program at this point and I'm sure would go after another up and coming coach like Toole. I doubt Bobby's name would be thrown into the mix, but I doubt he'd want to coach in the same conference as Danny.
Mike Rhoades (Rice head coach) is too inexperienced and unproven at this point, but a couple years ago when Shaka was talking about leaving I know his name was thrown around.
Anthony Grant coming back would go with the trend this year of old coaches coming back home...
Obviously VCU is a top notch program at this point and I'm sure would go after another up and coming coach like Toole. I doubt Bobby's name would be thrown into the mix, but I doubt he'd want to coach in the same conference as Danny.
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104, doubt isn't the word. "Never" is more like it.
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Rambone,
Yeah I realized that was really stupid after pressing submit...will still be interesting to see who's on their short list if he were to leave.
Yeah I realized that was really stupid after pressing submit...will still be interesting to see who's on their short list if he were to leave.
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Well, at least Shaka would be going for big money.
Buzz Williams was so anxious to leave the overrated NBE ,
that he took a pay cut to go to VATech.
Shaka wanted no part of Marquette. Bobby wanted no part
of Depaul.
Such a powerhouse conference that one coach takes a pay cut to get
out, and other schools can't get a decent coach, regardless of what they pay.
Marquette took a guy with zero head coaching experience, and Depaul took a
warmed over journeyman.
Buzz Williams was so anxious to leave the overrated NBE ,
that he took a pay cut to go to VATech.
Shaka wanted no part of Marquette. Bobby wanted no part
of Depaul.
Such a powerhouse conference that one coach takes a pay cut to get
out, and other schools can't get a decent coach, regardless of what they pay.
Marquette took a guy with zero head coaching experience, and Depaul took a
warmed over journeyman.
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The headline is that Buzz took less money but the reality is the totality of the contract is probably better than the one he had at Marquette.
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Oooh, a scandal? Or the first step in my revenge plot on MAC coaches?
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He needs to be fired!
His team got killed by Canisius at home in the CIT.
His team got killed by Canisius at home in the CIT.
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Wonder what he did.....
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Losing to Jim Baron in the CIT should be enough to lose your job. I have no further questions.
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- Sly Williams
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Really good piece here, with a mention of Hurley. My favorite line:
http://bloguin.com/thestudentsection/ba ... -come.htmlJust because a university is in a power conference, coaches who have the opportunity to land those gigs don’t automatically view them as better gigs than the ones they currently have. Is it really that hard to believe that statement?
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Per Goodman, Shaka has an 8 pm team meeting.
Patterson talked to him in Richmond today. Almost certainly offered him the job.
I haven't read the VCU board, but heard that they are going nuts.
This certainly looks like he's gone....
Only question: Did Shaka go to Texas before this? If not, why would he accept without doing so?
Patterson talked to him in Richmond today. Almost certainly offered him the job.
I haven't read the VCU board, but heard that they are going nuts.
This certainly looks like he's gone....
Only question: Did Shaka go to Texas before this? If not, why would he accept without doing so?
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I can tell you being in Austin that sports radio talked about Shaka Smart the wholle commute home and they are speculating a contract in the 3mil-3.5 mil range for 6 years. The Texas athletic director took their private jet to Virginia today.
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Now it seems that Smart postponed the meeting.
Probably having second thoughts.
Big decision.
Probably having second thoughts.
Big decision.
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Slava Ukraini!
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He had the team meeting scheduled at 8:00. An hour and a half later, his assistants are still there, he is not (from reports I've seen). I hope he stays. The league needs to keep their great coaches.
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Shades of Harrick 16 years ago!
Maybe a last ditch attempt by VCU to keep him. Who knows?
Probably can't bear to face his team if he leaves.
Maybe a last ditch attempt by VCU to keep him. Who knows?
Probably can't bear to face his team if he leaves.
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Now supposedly, he's meeting with the team at 10:00. Should hear something soon.
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The VCU forum site has crashed.
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And burned too, if he leaves.
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IN HONOR OF ROADY JAY'S SIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!Billyboy78 wrote:Now supposedly, he's meeting with the team at 10:00. Should hear something soon.
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Looks like he's gone.....
meeting over, players visibly distraught.....no comments as of yet....
meeting over, players visibly distraught.....no comments as of yet....
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Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein · 1m1 minute ago
BREAKING: VCU's Shaka Smart has accepted the head coaching vacancy at Texas, sources told @CBSSports.com. Story coming.
BREAKING: VCU's Shaka Smart has accepted the head coaching vacancy at Texas, sources told @CBSSports.com. Story coming.
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Wow! Wise move by Smart.
I think HAVOC was exposed as a one man show.
He got out of town before everyone figures it out.
He'll have a rich recruiting area in Texas, and
world class facilities, and loads of money.
I think HAVOC was exposed as a one man show.
He got out of town before everyone figures it out.
He'll have a rich recruiting area in Texas, and
world class facilities, and loads of money.
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Should be interesting what happens with their recruiting class coming in.
Next season, they would have had EIGHT 4 stars, and 3 -3 stars on that team...
Their next coach has a tough job ahead of him, to maintain that level of recruiting....
Next season, they would have had EIGHT 4 stars, and 3 -3 stars on that team...
Their next coach has a tough job ahead of him, to maintain that level of recruiting....
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These top tier football schools are paying insane money for coaches.
Even VCU couldn't come close to paying Smart what he'll be getting at Texas.
They did make a last ditch offer, but it wasn't enough.
Even VCU couldn't come close to paying Smart what he'll be getting at Texas.
They did make a last ditch offer, but it wasn't enough.
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There are tougher jobs....rambone 78 wrote:Should be interesting what happens with their recruiting class coming in.
Next season, they would have had EIGHT 4 stars, and 3 -3 stars on that team...
Their next coach has a tough job ahead of him, to maintain that level of recruiting....
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URI96 wrote:Wonder what he did.....
Here's The Ass-Slapping Video That Got Bowling Green's Coach Fired
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You have got to sympathize with VCU fans. It must not feel very good. I remember when Penders, Skinner, and Harrick left Kingston. It was a kick to the gut each time.
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No doubt, but they should be able to bring in a good coach.RF1 wrote:You have got to sympathize with VCU fans. It must not feel very good. I remember when Penders, Skinner, and Harrick left Kingston. It was a kick to the gut each time.
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TruePoint wrote:No doubt, but they should be able to bring in a good coach.RF1 wrote:You have got to sympathize with VCU fans. It must not feel very good. I remember when Penders, Skinner, and Harrick left Kingston. It was a kick to the gut each time.
In the last 15 years they have had to make three hires. They have improved each time. McCarthy-Capel-Grant-Smart. They have everything in place (facilities, administration, and support) to have continued success.
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VCU is going to be like Xavier. They have everything in place for a coach to be successful.
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I'm sure the VCU people have done their homework, knowing this day was coming.
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Who is out there for VCU?