General High School Recruiting Discussion/Comments 2022-23

[Jdrums#3]

I asked this question in Cam E’s recruitment thread initially then thought it would be better asked here.

I have a lot of extra time on my hands these days so my mind tends to drift to what if’s. It has to do with NIL and college amateurism. Anyway, here goes…

If a player decides to skip college initially and go pro, then - say 5 to 7 years later - decides to leave pro ball for whatever reason to obtain a college degree to fall back on when he’s done playing and grab some NIL money while at it, can he play college ball with four years of eligibility?

Is it possible? An unintended consequence of NIL? Has NIL nullified the amateur status of the college athlete?

[theblueram]

I asked this question in Cam E’s recruitment thread initially then thought it would be better asked here.

I have a lot of extra time on my hands these days so my mind tends to drift to what if’s. It has to do with NIL and college amateurism. Anyway, here goes…

If a player decides to skip college initially and go pro, then - say 5 to 7 years later - decides to leave pro ball for whatever reason to obtain a college degree to fall back on when he’s done playing and grab some NIL money while at it, can he play college ball with four years of eligibility?

Is it possible? An unintended consequence of NIL? Has NIL nullified the amateur status of the college athlete?

Like can Lamar Odom come back and play three years at Rhody? Hah!

[Jdrums#3]

Is he in shape?

But no Jerry D. this time. Hahahaha

[SGreenwell]

I asked this question in Cam E’s recruitment thread initially then thought it would be better asked here.

I have a lot of extra time on my hands these days so my mind tends to drift to what if’s. It has to do with NIL and college amateurism. Anyway, here goes…

If a player decides to skip college initially and go pro, then - say 5 to 7 years later - decides to leave pro ball for whatever reason to obtain a college degree to fall back on when he’s done playing and grab some NIL money while at it, can he play college ball with four years of eligibility?

Is it possible? An unintended consequence of NIL? Has NIL nullified the amateur status of the college athlete?

No. Once you play professionally, you sacrifice your ability to play as an amateur in that sport. However, you can play another sport as an amateur, if you want. J.R. Smith is one some college team as a golfer right now, for example.

[Jdrums#3]

Thanks for jumping in. Good point, SG. Although, I may not be fully grasping it yet.

Does/can NIL money offered and accepted make a college athlete a professional by definition? A paid for occupation? Thus, nullifying amateur status altogether?

This is just a thought exercise during the slow summer offseason on an interesting issue.

[SGreenwell]

Thanks for jumping in. Good point, SG. Although, I may not be fully grasping it yet.

Does/can NIL money offered and accepted make a college athlete a professional by definition? A paid for occupation? Thus, nullifying amateur status altogether?

This is just a thought exercise during the slow summer offseason on an interesting issue.

No. Basically, the root of this can be traced to the Ed O'Bannon NCAA case, and things like colleges selling replica jerseys of student athletes. Basically, profiting off of athlete's images, likeness and performance. That's different than directly receiving a salary for your performance.

[Jdrums#3]

Thanks, SG. Good stuff. I wasn’t considering the O’Bannon case. I forgot all about that. My memory no longer works that well. Thanks for the reminder.

Out of curiosity and regarding NIL, collectives and cbb recruiting, do you or any KB’ers envision, anticipate, expect any more legal challenges or how about adaptive strategies by coaches beyond what we have already seen?

Sheesh. Sounds like I am back in college working on a research paper. Sorry everyone but my brain could use the exercise, if it’s no inconvenience. Thanks.

[Billyboy78]

[Jdrums#3]

Who the heck is this guy, now? Did they sneak him in the back door?

#StealthStaff

[Billyboy78]

Who the heck is this guy, now? Did they sneak him in the back door?

#StealthStaff

I just remembered, we offered him in May. So, I just posted this on his thread too.

[Billyboy78]

Still recruiting 23s.

[Jersey77]

Still recruiting 23s.

Yes 78, I saw that earlier on verbal commits and was wondering the same thing.

As a matter of fact, 'I posted it earlier but immediately took it down because I couldn't find much information on him and wasn't sure it was legit.

[Ramfan22]

Still recruiting 23s.

Yes 78, I saw that earlier on verbal commits and was wondering the same thing.

As a matter of fact, 'I posted it earlier but immediately took it down because I couldn't find much information on him and wasn't sure it was legit.

Saw that too, and searched him up but couldn’t find anything on him.

[Billyboy78]

Still recruiting 23s.

Yes 78, I saw that earlier on verbal commits and was wondering the same thing.

As a matter of fact, 'I posted it earlier but immediately took it down because I couldn't find much information on him and wasn't sure it was legit.

Saw that too, and searched him up but couldn’t find anything on him.

His brother plays college ball and his dad played at UConn. He's from Santa Monica, CA.
https://goseattleu.com/sports/mens-bask ... nomou/4948

[Ramfan22]

He plays for a good program

2022 Southern California Academy Commitments

Japan Reed LSU
Amaree Abram Ole Miss
Dior Johnson Pitt
Denim Dawson Nebraska
Robert Cowherd Ole Miss
Jaxon Kohler Michigan St
Jaylen Thompson Stanford
Oziyah Sellars USC
Jed Miller Montana State
Miles Keeffe UC Riverside
Taeshaud Jackson VMI

[Jdrums#3]

Still recruiting 23s.

Another ‘23 in our sites?

Very, very interesting (in my best Artie Johnson voice - of Laugh In fame).

[Rhody74]

Another ‘23 in our sites?

Very, very interesting (in my best Artie Johnson voice - of Laugh In fame).

You’re dating yourself.

[bigappleram]

Yes 78, I saw that earlier on verbal commits and was wondering the same thing.

As a matter of fact, 'I posted it earlier but immediately took it down because I couldn't find much information on him and wasn't sure it was legit.

Saw that too, and searched him up but couldn’t find anything on him.

His brother plays college ball and his dad played at UConn. He's from Santa Monica, CA.
https://goseattleu.com/sports/mens-bask ... nomou/4948

His dad is Greg Economou former UConn walk on in the 80s
Have done biz with him really good dude.

[Jdrums#3]

KB’s reach is wide and deep.

[ace]

ESPN finally updated their 2023 rankings, which makes the 247 composite scores more accurate:

https://247sports.com/Season/2023-Baske ... mRankings/

St. Joe’s is the highest ranked A10 team (16th) with their three 3 star recruits. There will likely be some changes as the teams below them fill out their classes but a nice showing for them so far. The SJU page, for some reason, still has their head coach listed as Phil Martelli. Time for a refresh, folks!

[Jdrums#3]

How ‘bout that Phil Martelli?

Hahaha

[Jersey77]

Would be a huge get for English and GM.

[reef]

James Poseys kid

[RhodyKyle]

James Poseys kid

I loved watching Posey with the Celtics. Him and Leon Poe were unsung heroes of that championship run.

[Billyboy78]

[Jersey77]

Yes, good size, footwork, skill and shooting threat at center.
He has a strong recruiting class for '23.

I think he has a nice roster for 22-23 and they should make some noise. after losing so many players from last season.
I don't think we will see those billboards going up in Richmond anytime soon.

[Jersey77]

4* top 100 (G) George Washington 111 just decommitted from Ohio State.
Interesting that his dad just got hired as an assistant WBB coach at Dayton.
He would be a huge get for Grant if he commits to Dayton.

[Ramfan22]

4* top 100 (G) George Washington 111 just decommitted from Ohio State.
Interesting that his dad just got hired as an assistant WBB coach at Dayton.
He would be a huge get for Grant if he commits to Dayton.

Rhode Island has contacted George Washington

[SGreenwell]

It's going to be really confusing if G.W. III ends up at an A-10 school, ha.

[Jdrums#3]

I am surprised George Washington hasn’t heard from George Washington since re-opening his recruitment.

[adam914]

It's going to be really confusing if G.W. III ends up at an A-10 school, ha.

It already confused me reading this thread today. I was thinking "wait who from GW reopened their recruitment?"

[Rhody74]

Wherever he lands I predict he’ll be first on offense, first on defense and first in the hearts of his teammates.

[ramster]

Wonder if Archie will look at T.J. Power. 4* from Worcester Academy. Local kid and a power forward.

Maybe, but the kid has plenty of P6 schools that offered and been in on him for a while.

Imagine signing him and Miranda? The roof would blow off the Ryan Center. Team them up with a high powered PG and some good/great SG? One can dream, right? But that is my pipe dream.

TJ Power set to announce on 247 Sports
by Adam Finkelstein
15 hours ago
TJ Power, the No. 22 ranked prospect in the national class of 2022, is set to make his college announcement on Tuesday at 5pm ET live on the 247 Sports Channel.
The 6-foot-8 forward grew up as a two-sport star who doubled as a pitcher on the baseball diamond.

He has narrowed to 5 schools including official visits to all 5:

Boston College
Duke
Iowa
North Carolina
Virginia


https://247sports.com/Article/college-b ... 20589/Amp/

[Ramfan22]

Maybe, but the kid has plenty of P6 schools that offered and been in on him for a while.

Imagine signing him and Miranda? The roof would blow off the Ryan Center. Team them up with a high powered PG and some good/great SG? One can dream, right? But that is my pipe dream.

TJ Power set to announce on 247 Sports
by Adam Finkelstein
15 hours ago
TJ Power, the No. 22 ranked prospect in the national class of 2022, is set to make his college announcement on Tuesday at 5pm ET live on the 247 Sports Channel.
The 6-foot-8 forward grew up as a two-sport star who doubled as a pitcher on the baseball diamond.

He has narrowed to 5 schools including official visits to all 5:

Boston College
Duke
Iowa
North Carolina
Virginia


https://247sports.com/Article/college-b ... 20589/Amp/

Prediction: Duke

[SmartyBarrett]

I'm predicting UVA.

[Jersey77]

Imagine signing him and Miranda? The roof would blow off the Ryan Center. Team them up with a high powered PG and some good/great SG? One can dream, right? But that is my pipe dream.

TJ Power set to announce on 247 Sports
by Adam Finkelstein
15 hours ago
TJ Power, the No. 22 ranked prospect in the national class of 2022, is set to make his college announcement on Tuesday at 5pm ET live on the 247 Sports Channel.
The 6-foot-8 forward grew up as a two-sport star who doubled as a pitcher on the baseball diamond.

He has narrowed to 5 schools including official visits to all 5:

Boston College
Duke
Iowa
North Carolina
Virginia


https://247sports.com/Article/college-b ... 20589/Amp/

Prediction: Duke

And the winner is 22.

[SmartyBarrett]

Interesting... let's see if he gets playing time.

[Jdrums#3]

Will be interesting watching how the Dukies survive without Coach K running the program. I’m sure they will be fine but I’d enjoy their fans reactions if they take a nice dip.

[Jersey77]

Solid recruit for English.
6'7" wing sharpshooter.

[ramster]

Kim English gets it

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Austi ... Interests/

Solid recruit for English.
6'7" wing sharpshooter.

[Ramfan22]

Kim English gets it

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Austi ... Interests/

Solid recruit for English.
6'7" wing sharpshooter.

The A10 is landing some very talented transfers/recruits.

[Jersey77]

Kim English with another big commit in less than a week.
Dez White is an excellent shooting guard.

[Jdrums#3]

It could be the P5 directing recruits there for seasoning until they can portalize them.

Nah…I am just joking around.

Overall, I think the A10 has a very good group of coaches and recruiters in place. Hopefully, the conference can assert itself and have success. I think it is very possible.

I think that success could look like up to 5-6 teams in play for a tourney bid. For example, 3 bids (including conf tourney champ) and 2-3 in the bubble discussion in a given year. I think the conference has the coaches plus enough committed programs to pull it off. Especially, if the coaches stick around for a while.

[Jersey77]

Cooley with another 4* get, putting together a strong '23 class.

[ramster]

Ben Hammond G 2024. Paul VI
@theb3nhammond

Blessed to receive an offer from The University of Rhode Island . Thank you for believing in me!! @PVIHoops @RhodyMBB #AGTG


Article about the Championship Game in March vs DeMatha

https://www.times-news.com/sports/local ... 1c0f3.html



G. Ben Hammond, Paul VI
When Darren Harris was lost for the season late with a wrist injury, Paul VI somehow barely missed a beat. That’s because Glenn Farello was able to turn to Hammond. The sub-six-foot guard delivered in a huge way with more playing time. A very good defender and ball-handler, Hammond also was able to contribute offensively–to say the least. He led PVI in scoring with 20 points in a big win over Gonzaga. In other playoff games he was able to feed the Panthers’ big offensive weapons, while still knocking down clutch shots as needed. Dug McDaniel will be a huge loss next year, but Hammond is a great guy to step right in and run the Panther attack.

https://novahoops.com/2021-2022-all-nov ... boys-team/

[Jersey77]

[Jersey77]

[Ramfan22]

[Billyboy78]

2nd ranked player in Connecticut behind Tyler Betsey.
https://newenglandrecruitingreport.com/ ... ss-of-2024

[Bos8]

Seems like a good weekend to get someone on campus. Weather forecast looks nice, sold out football game, practices in full swing etc