General Recruiting Discussion/Comments 2022 and before

[ace]

Little creeped out that someone who professes to “barely pay attention to me” knows my professsion. I don’t know what any of you people do. Is TP a lawyer? I feel like I might know that. And a few of you have got to be in sales.

[theblueram]

I would say in the history books DH is on par with Skinner.

[bigappleram]

Eh I disagree. Based on what he inherited vs what he left it as he is slightly above Skinner. If rhody were a stock the price would be a hockey stick shape during his tenure.

[Running Ram]

Ah, but let's not forget that Skinner ran the program from a trailer and he left behind one of our best classes ever.

[bigappleram]

Fair. But a roster who the year before didn’t win a tourney game and then went a minute from the final four with his predecessor. I’d still put Dan slightly ahead of Al, and obviously behind TP and JH. Just counting the coaches I have witnessed.

[Iggy1979]

I think I started this so I feel compelled to clarify. In no way was I diminishing Hurley's contributions. Its possible that he set the table for a long run of relevancy. It's up to others to not blow it.
As for Ace, she's a valued contributor. My point was she's a little predictable in her posts on Hurley. We're URI fans number 1. She's a Dan fan, which makes her an outlier. But she is upfront with her bias and I hope she keeps posting.

[URIRecruitingInfo]

Hurley and most of his people have moved on. We get to move on too. Good programs turn the page. Cox owns the successes and the failures from here on out. If that diminishes the Hurley legacy to some people, too bad.

[Running Ram]

As for Ace, she's a valued contributor. My point was she's a little predictable in her posts on Hurley. We're URI fans number 1. She's a Dan fan, which makes her an outlier. But she is upfront with her bias and I hope she keeps posting.

Hurley and most of his people have moved on. We get to move on too. Good programs turn the page. Cox owns the successes and the failures from here on out. If that diminishes the Hurley legacy to some people, too bad.

I totally agree with both of these posts, have no issue with Ace in general, her bias is known. I only got salty because she claimed Iggy was not being respectful by pointing to her bias. Also we don't have to deify Danny Hurley to appreciate what he did here. I'm not going to revise history, he is great at a number of the things one needs to run a successful D1 college men's basketball program and average in some other respects. In all we are lucky he helped, as I have said, drag the program out of the doldrums, but now it's time to move on, he chose to leave for one of our biggest rivals because he believes he can win a championship there and not here, that tells you what he thinks of us and his own abilities, no longer up to the challenge of helping us become the major mid-major of the east. So we move on and Cox gets the accolades when we go to the final four and beyond...

[Da_Process_Survivor]

As for Ace, she's a valued contributor. My point was she's a little predictable in her posts on Hurley. We're URI fans number 1. She's a Dan fan, which makes her an outlier. But she is upfront with her bias and I hope she keeps posting.

Hurley and most of his people have moved on. We get to move on too. Good programs turn the page. Cox owns the successes and the failures from here on out. If that diminishes the Hurley legacy to some people, too bad.

I totally agree with both of these posts, have no issue with Ace in general, her bias is known. I only got salty because she claimed Iggy was not being respectful by pointing to her bias. Also we don't have to deify Danny Hurley to appreciate what he did here. I'm not going to revise history, he is great at a number of the things one needs to run a successful D1 college men's basketball program and average in some other respects. In all we are lucky he helped, as I have said, drag the program out of the doldrums, but now it's time to move on, he chose to leave for one of our biggest rivals because he believes he can win a championship there and not here, that tells you what he thinks of us and his own abilities, no longer up to the challenge of helping us become the major mid-major of the east. So we move on and Cox gets the accolades when we go to the final four and beyond...

just to add, the negativity towards Hurley is bigger because he said one thing but did another.

He spent years preaching family, telling top recruits you dont need the bright lights to come here and build something special, and built his persona of not being the typical college coach looking to use schools as stepping stones until they can cash in.

He then turned around and did exactly that. The deception/betrayal adds more fuel to the negativity fire

[RamStock]

As for Ace, she's a valued contributor. My point was she's a little predictable in her posts on Hurley. We're URI fans number 1. She's a Dan fan, which makes her an outlier. But she is upfront with her bias and I hope she keeps posting.

Hurley and most of his people have moved on. We get to move on too. Good programs turn the page. Cox owns the successes and the failures from here on out. If that diminishes the Hurley legacy to some people, too bad.

I totally agree with both of these posts, have no issue with Ace in general, her bias is known. I only got salty because she claimed Iggy was not being respectful by pointing to her bias. Also we don't have to deify Danny Hurley to appreciate what he did here. I'm not going to revise history, he is great at a number of the things one needs to run a successful D1 college men's basketball program and average in some other respects. In all we are lucky he helped, as I have said, drag the program out of the doldrums, but now it's time to move on, he chose to leave for one of our biggest rivals because he believes he can win a championship there and not here, that tells you what he thinks of us and his own abilities, no longer up to the challenge of helping us become the major mid-major of the east. So we move on and Cox gets the accolades when we go to the final four and beyond...

just to add, the negativity towards Hurley is bigger because he said one thing but did another.

He spent years preaching family, telling top recruits you dont need the bright lights to come here and build something special, and built his persona of not being the typical college coach looking to use schools as stepping stones until they can cash in.

He then turned around and did exactly that. The deception/betrayal adds more fuel to the negativity fire

Hurley did what 95% of the coaches in division one would have done. There aren’t many that wouldn’t take the money and also an opportunity to recruit at a higher level with big time facilities and tradition. I was upset when he left also, but really don’t care what Hurley is doing now and just want to land high end recruits starting with McLeod. There are very “few” Mark Few’s or even Bob McKillop of Davidson in college basketball today!

[ace]

Can’t believe you guys are still talking about him. He’s not the coach!!

[URI2006_Andy]

Hurley before Cox was 22-39. Since Cox came, Hurley was 91-43.

As a former assistant coach (different sport and lower level), I like stats like that.

[RhowdyRam02]

Hurley before Cox was 22-39. Since Cox came, Hurley was 91-43.

As a former assistant coach (different sport and lower level), I like stats like that.

You do realize how completely pointless those stats are, right?

[URI2006_Andy]

Hurley before Cox was 22-39. Since Cox came, Hurley was 91-43.

As a former assistant coach (different sport and lower level), I like stats like that.

You do realize how completely pointless those stats are, right?

Like your posts. They’re interesting but I don’t give them much weight.

[RhowdyRam02]

But I don't even see how it's interesting. Cox came aboard when EC and Hassan were sophomores and Jared and Jarvis were freshman. The most important part of the rebuild was done, so of course Hurley's record looks one way during the rebuild and another way after.

[URI2006_Andy]

I like to hope Cox is the next assistant turn great coach like Mack or Few. More of a stat of wishful thinking than anything else. I agree many more important factors attributable to those splits.

But Hurley had some good players before the rebuild was complete.

[adam914]

Hurley and most of his people have moved on. We get to move on too. Good programs turn the page. Cox owns the successes and the failures from here on out. If that diminishes the Hurley legacy to some people, too bad.

While this is mostly true, I think the strange part is that the ones talking the most about moving on and all that are the ones still talking the most about Hurley.

I love Dan, have absolutely no issues with the way he left, and am hoping he does well at UConn (as long as it doesn't affect URI at all) but I've moved on and rarely talk about him on here unless it is too bring up how petty most posters are acting about the whole thing.

[adam914]

just to add, the negativity towards Hurley is bigger because he said one thing but did another.

He spent years preaching family, telling top recruits you dont need the bright lights to come here and build something special, and built his persona of not being the typical college coach looking to use schools as stepping stones until they can cash in.

He then turned around and did exactly that. The deception/betrayal adds more fuel to the negativity fire

The only minor issue with this is that its 100% not true.

[ace]

Cox owns the successes and the failures from here on out. If that diminishes the Hurley legacy to some people, too bad.

This is silly. No one thinks that. Cox’s performance as a head coach, and I expect it to be very good, neither enhances or diminishes anything the previous coach did. Are you just making up stuff to be mad at? The previous coach isn’t the only one that could have “rebuilt,” it’s just that he was the one who happened to do so. This is what good programs do. Get the pieces in place and hire competent people to lead. After a long drought, that’s what this program is now. Tournament appearances and conference championships should continue to be the norm. Clear space for more banners, because they’re coming.

[RamStock]

I hope Bishop is good with some competition at Xavier. Tandy is smaller, but higher rated than Bishop in many recruiting sites. Both combo guards.

[TruePoint]

The funny thing about Hurley vs Cox people on this board is that it only really exists on this board. I think the two guys like and respect each other a lot, are grateful to one another for their respective impacts on each others’ careers and are rooting for each other to succeed.

[ace]

I think I started this so I feel compelled to clarify. In no way was I diminishing Hurley's contributions. Its possible that he set the table for a long run of relevancy. It's up to others to not blow it.
As for Ace, she's a valued contributor. My point was she's a little predictable in her posts on Hurley. We're URI fans number 1. She's a Dan fan, which makes her an outlier. But she is upfront with her bias and I hope she keeps posting.

And what bothered me, and what I found a little disrespectful, was that you responded to me but didn’t even consider the words that I wrote. When you look for a bias, you’ll find it even when none is there. My point was and continues to be that re-recruiting a class and starting from scratch is different. Not sure why that led to an insult. It’s hardly an outrageous idea.

But, it’s fine. Iggy and I are cool.

[ace]

The funny thing about Hurley vs Cox people on this board is that it only really exists on this board. I think the two guys like and respect each other a lot, are grateful to one another for their respective impacts on each others’ careers and are rooting for each other to succeed.

I don’t think there are any “Hurley people” who are not also “Cox people.” URI will definitely be getting some info from UConn’s side this weekend following their secret scrimmage. Teams don’t put it all out there in these scrimmages, but what’s useful to be shared will be.

[RhowdyRam02]

The funny thing about Hurley vs Cox people on this board is that it only really exists on this board. I think the two guys like and respect each other a lot, are grateful to one another for their respective impacts on each others’ careers and are rooting for each other to succeed.

I don’t think there are any “Hurley people” who are not also “Cox people.” URI will definitely be getting some info from UConn’s side this weekend following their secret scrimmage. Teams don’t put it all out there in these scrimmages, but what’s useful to be shared will be.

I'm an idiot

[URIRecruitingInfo]

Cox owns the successes and the failures from here on out. If that diminishes the Hurley legacy to some people, too bad.

This is silly. No one thinks that.

Great! Glad I took care of that problem.

[ace]

Cox owns the successes and the failures from here on out. If that diminishes the Hurley legacy to some people, too bad.

This is silly. No one thinks that.

Great! Glad I took care of that problem.

A “problem” you made up? Good on ya, I guess.

[ace]

The funny thing about Hurley vs Cox people on this board is that it only really exists on this board. I think the two guys like and respect each other a lot, are grateful to one another for their respective impacts on each others’ careers and are rooting for each other to succeed.

I don’t think there are any “Hurley people” who are not also “Cox people.” URI will definitely be getting some info from UConn’s side this weekend following their secret scrimmage. Teams don’t put it all out there in these scrimmages, but what’s useful to be shared will be.

And I'm sure we'll be telling Hurley about St. John's

Has UConn rejoined the Big East?! Big if true

[RhowdyRam02]

I don’t think there are any “Hurley people” who are not also “Cox people.” URI will definitely be getting some info from UConn’s side this weekend following their secret scrimmage. Teams don’t put it all out there in these scrimmages, but what’s useful to be shared will be.

And I'm sure we'll be telling Hurley about St. John's

Has UConn rejoined the Big East?! Big if true

Only in their fans minds and in my brain fart. I apologize, carry on

[URI2006_Andy]

The funny thing about Hurley vs Cox people on this board is that it only really exists on this board. I think the two guys like and respect each other a lot, are grateful to one another for their respective impacts on each others’ careers and are rooting for each other to succeed.

I’m sure Cox and Hurley are very close. I bet knowing that Cox had a good chance to become the next head coach, made Hurley’s decision to leave a little easier. But that’s not the issue.

The debate is over the degree of Hurley’s accomplishments at URI. And our opinions, as URI fans, shape this legacy. Personally, I am rooting for Hurley’s legacy at URI to be completely overshadowed by the success of Cox. Has nothing to do with Hurley, who I like, and everything to do with being a URI fan first and foremost.

[TruePoint]

I am rooting for the legacy of every coach who has ever coached here to be overshadowed by the legacy of whoever the current coach is, always. But, that is a comparison between two coaches; nothing Cox does or doesn’t do should diminish what Hurley did for our program. If he can surpass it, that’s all to the good for us.

[ace]

I am rooting for the legacy of every coach who has ever coached here to be overshadowed by the legacy of whoever the current coach is, always. But, that is a comparison between two coaches; nothing Cox does or doesn’t do should diminish what Hurley did for our program. If he can surpass it, that’s all to the good for us.

Any program that hasn’t won a national championship (and that’s most of them) should want the current coach to do better than anyone who came before him (or her). And, if your school has had any coach win n national championships, you want the current coach to win n + 1. Being a fan is at least 42% delusion.

[URI2006_Andy]

My expectations are slightly lower than what I’m rooting for. But I’m still well over the 42% delusional.

[Seawrightspostgame]

I think most of us here are rooting for sweet sixteen. Elite 8 AGAIN. Maybe a Final Four???

Not having a national title doesn’t mean much around here.

Obviously we would love one.

[reef]

This reminds me of that famous quote CFL said about he was trying to recruit players to play in a final 4 or something to that effect ????

[ATPTourFan]

I want to play in a Final Four and you’re not a Final Four player.

[RhowdyRam02]

To a player that was already on the team to run him off

[TruePoint]

To which the player responded “I want to play in a Final Four and you are not a Final Four caliber coach” (at least in the version of this story I like to recount in my head).

[rhodyruckus]

To which the player responded “I want to play in a Final Four and you are not a Final Four caliber coach” (at least in the version of this story I like to recount in my head).

How dare you??! Jim Baron IS a Final Four* coach!

* Final Four of the NIT

[Bos8]

Tom Behrens!

[Rhody83]

[DC_Rams]

I never saw him as an Big 12 caliber player. I don’t think he will play much until his JR/SR YEAR

[reef]

That is definitely one of the classic quotes on this board over the last 20 years alongside 72 criticisms of Jimmy Barons free throw shooting

[TruePoint]

I never saw him as an Big 12 caliber player. I don’t think he will play much until his JR/SR YEAR

Don’t disagree, but isn’t Maryland in the B1G?

[Rhody83]

He isn’t 6’7” either. Loved his talent when he played with Fatts. I think he is 6’5” tough.
Another miss for LaSalle. That should eliminate LaSalle as an option for McLeod.

[FattsAndFurious]

LaSalle never had a shot with Scott. He's too good. It's hard enough for Temple to even keep kids like him in state, let alone LaSalle.

[DC_Rams]

I never saw him as an Big 12 caliber player. I don’t think he will play much until his JR/SR YEAR

Don’t disagree, but isn’t Maryland in the B1G?

Lol yes, good catch.

[RamStock]

Balsa Koprivica and Antwan January are FSU targets ahead of McLeod, but it seems like neither are in a rush to make a commitment and if FSU shows that they really want him this weekend it might be some more bad news for next year’s class. I was hoping Koprivica would have commited after his visit to FSU. I’m not sure if the whole scandal has held up both his and other schools decision. It should sway a program like FSU that will do anything in order to win.

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com ... 50-centers

[Rhody83]

I share this because all the experts had him going to Kansas or UNC. 247’s Crystal Ball had him 100% Kansas. All the attention they have on a Top 20 player and they can’t get his school right. Forget about their guesses on where a recruit RI is pursuing is going to end up.

[rambone 78]

Maybe the recruiting issues with the FBI investigation are having some effect on recruits decisions....

[ace]

As a Temple grad, I’m programmed to dislike Villanova.

But, they have developed a really impressive program and approach to getting things done.