2021 NCAA Tournament

[reef]

Me too glad they are gone finally . So sweet when we beat them in 88 with Seikaly Coleman and Sherm D

[ramster]

Me too glad they are gone finally . So sweet when we beat them in 88 with Seikaly Coleman and Sherm D

Oh my goodness Reef, you are so right.

We beat Missouri then as the 11-seed we beat 3-seed Syracuse 97-94. What a game that was!!

How about that we only played 6 guys - and how much better a 6th guy can you get than Kenny GREEN!! Shows you don't need depth to be a great College Basketball Team - you just need 6 good players. Nice to have depth but not required.

I looked back at the Box Score following your post.

• Can you believe we only had 4 Turnovers in the entire game?

• Tommy Garrick game high scorer with 28 points on 10-14 FG, 4 rebounds, game high 2 steals, 6 assists and 1 TO in 39 minutes

• Carlton Owens played 40 minutes, 4-6 on 3FGs, 7 assists and zero TOs

• Kenny Green 30 minutes 8-15 FGs, 6 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal, 2 blocks and only 1 TO for 23 points

We were great offensively but also great on the defensive end.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/bo ... sland.html

[ramster]

Gonzaga uses the pass as an integral part of their offense. Every pass seems to have a purpose in helping to create a high percentage shot.

Creighton dribbles much more than Gonzaga and players seem to make the pass more as a last resort. Dribble first, if nothing positive happens, then look to pass the ball. I watched early in the second half Gonzaga passed about 8 times in an offensive play - Mahoney got the ball, dribbled the length of the court then launched a 12 footer that missed. All Creighton players seem to dribble first, shoot second and pass third. Reminds me of how boring watching Big East Basketball tends to be.

[reef]

Zags look like a powerhouse right now maybe Baylor can give them a game in the finals

[Billyboy78]

Me too glad they are gone finally . So sweet when we beat them in 88 with Seikaly Coleman and Sherm D

Oh my goodness Reef, you are so right.

We beat Missouri then as the 11-seed we beat 3-seed Syracuse 97-94. What a game that was!!

How about that we only played 6 guys - and how much better a 6th guy can you get than Kenny GREEN!! Shows you don't need depth to be a great College Basketball Team - you just need 6 good players. Nice to have depth but not required.

I looked back at the Box Score following your post.

• Can you believe we only had 4 Turnovers in the entire game?

• Tommy Garrick game high scorer with 28 points on 10-14 FG, 4 rebounds, game high 2 steals, 6 assists and 1 TO in 39 minutes

• Carlton Owens played 40 minutes, 4-6 on 3FGs, 7 assists and zero TOs

• Kenny Green 30 minutes 8-15 FGs, 6 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal, 2 blocks and only 1 TO for 23 points

We were great offensively but also great on the defensive end.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/bo ... sland.html

6 players and we ran up and down the court all game long, every game. I don't know why kids can't do that today.

[ramster]

Me too glad they are gone finally . So sweet when we beat them in 88 with Seikaly Coleman and Sherm D

Oh my goodness Reef, you are so right.

We beat Missouri then as the 11-seed we beat 3-seed Syracuse 97-94. What a game that was!!

How about that we only played 6 guys - and how much better a 6th guy can you get than Kenny GREEN!! Shows you don't need depth to be a great College Basketball Team - you just need 6 good players. Nice to have depth but not required.

I looked back at the Box Score following your post.

• Can you believe we only had 4 Turnovers in the entire game?

• Tommy Garrick game high scorer with 28 points on 10-14 FG, 4 rebounds, game high 2 steals, 6 assists and 1 TO in 39 minutes

• Carlton Owens played 40 minutes, 4-6 on 3FGs, 7 assists and zero TOs

• Kenny Green 30 minutes 8-15 FGs, 6 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal, 2 blocks and only 1 TO for 23 points

We were great offensively but also great on the defensive end.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/bo ... sland.html

6 players and we ran up and down the court all game long, every game. I don't know why kids can't do that today.

They can. Most players want to play 35-40 minutes. There are Coaches out there who narrow their rotation down to 6 or at most 7 players when crunch time comes.

We are not one of them.

[reef]

When DePaul played Indiana St in the 79 tournament DePaul played all 5 starters 40 minutes no subs

[Rhode_Island_Red]

I loved the '88 game when Kenny Green almost single-handedly fouled out Rony Seikaly, Derrick Coleman and, IIRC, Billy Owens -- all future NBA players.

[ramster]

Me too glad they are gone finally . So sweet when we beat them in 88 with Seikaly Coleman and Sherm D

Oh my goodness Reef, you are so right.

We beat Missouri then as the 11-seed we beat 3-seed Syracuse 97-94. What a game that was!!

How about that we only played 6 guys - and how much better a 6th guy can you get than Kenny GREEN!! Shows you don't need depth to be a great College Basketball Team - you just need 6 good players. Nice to have depth but not required.

I looked back at the Box Score following your post.

• Can you believe we only had 4 Turnovers in the entire game?

• Tommy Garrick game high scorer with 28 points on 10-14 FG, 4 rebounds, game high 2 steals, 6 assists and 1 TO in 39 minutes

• Carlton Owens played 40 minutes, 4-6 on 3FGs, 7 assists and zero TOs

• Kenny Green 30 minutes 8-15 FGs, 6 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal, 2 blocks and only 1 TO for 23 points

We were great offensively but also great on the defensive end.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/bo ... sland.html

6 players and we ran up and down the court all game long, every game. I don't know why kids can't do that today.

We were the 11-seed and beat 6-seed Missouri in the 1st round game in 1988. We played 6 guys and Bonzie Colton played only 8 minutes off the bench. Garrick, Owens and Evans all played 40 minutes. Sina played 38, Kenny Green played 34.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/bo ... souri.html

[ramster]

Alabama hits the 3 at the buzzer to send the UCLA Game to OT!

[eli#10]

Brick city for Bama as they are 11-25 from free throw line

[ramster]

11-seed UCLA beats 2-seed Alabama in OT to move to the Elite 8 vs 1-seed Michigan

PAC12 is now 11-1 in the Tournament.


Shaka Smart took 11-Seed VCU to the Final 4

[NYGFan_Section208]

11-seed UCLA beats 2-seed Alabama in OT to move to the Elite 8 vs 1-seed Michigan

PAC12 is now 11-1 in the Tournament.


Shaka Smart took 11-Seed VCU to the Final 4

This...will make Bill Walton rave all the more about..."The Conference of Champions"... I can't wait.

[reef]

Yeah that’s quite an a achievement for the Pac 12

[JimSidd]

Zags look like a powerhouse right now maybe Baylor can give them a game in the finals

I’ve been thinking the same thing, but the way USC completely dismantled Kansas and are handling Oregon right now, if they keep this up in the second half, they could give Gonzaga a heck of a test.

[ramster]

USC and UCLA have never been to the Elite 8 at the same time

[steviep123]

Oh my goodness Reef, you are so right.

We beat Missouri then as the 11-seed we beat 3-seed Syracuse 97-94. What a game that was!!

How about that we only played 6 guys - and how much better a 6th guy can you get than Kenny GREEN!! Shows you don't need depth to be a great College Basketball Team - you just need 6 good players. Nice to have depth but not required.

I looked back at the Box Score following your post.

• Can you believe we only had 4 Turnovers in the entire game?

• Tommy Garrick game high scorer with 28 points on 10-14 FG, 4 rebounds, game high 2 steals, 6 assists and 1 TO in 39 minutes

• Carlton Owens played 40 minutes, 4-6 on 3FGs, 7 assists and zero TOs

• Kenny Green 30 minutes 8-15 FGs, 6 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal, 2 blocks and only 1 TO for 23 points

We were great offensively but also great on the defensive end.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/bo ... sland.html

6 players and we ran up and down the court all game long, every game. I don't know why kids can't do that today.

We were the 11-seed and beat 6-seed Missouri in the 1st round game in 1988. We played 6 guys and Bonzie Colton played only 8 minutes off the bench. Garrick, Owens and Evans all played 40 minutes. Sina played 38, Kenny Green played 34.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/bo ... souri.html

Unless Colson was hurt or something, I think that box score is wrong - Colson started that year and Green came off the bench. I just went to the replay (thanks RhodySurf) and Colson was in the starting lineup, not Green:

[Ramulous]

Bonzie started. As a matter of fact he scored the first basket of the entire tournament

[Rhodymob05]

PAC-12 was definitely mediocre during the regular season, I don't think anyone slept on them, they're just peaking at the right time. U knew USC and UCLA were good, but Oregon State came from left field this year. Fun tournament. Also, the Zags are unbelievable.

[JimSidd]

Only three of the eight games this weekend were close late: was hoping for more.

Random comment: is it me, or does every player who releases a shot on a drive in traffic yell “and 1!” when they release the ball. More than half the time, the shot is missed and when they show a replay, there is no foul. Maybe this is not a new thing and I’m hearing it more this year because it’s easier to hear the game audio with limited fans.

[Jersey77]

Only dreaming, but would love to see our Mitchell Twins match the production of the twin towers of the Mobley Bros. at USC.

[Rhode_Island_Red]

Bonzie started. As a matter of fact he scored the first basket of the entire tournament

Kenny Green was physically unable to start. Because of the arthritic condition in his knees, once he entered the game he had to stay in, so he came in off the bench around four minutes in.

Once he came in, he was the best URI center I've ever seen.

[neil]

Don’t forget Colson. He was a great outlet passer. He would have the ball in Silk’s hands at mid court in no time.

[RI_Rams]

USC and UCLA have never been to the Elite 8 at the same time

THAT just happened.

[RI_Rams]

PAC-12 was definitely mediocre during the regular season, I don't think anyone slept on them, they're just peaking at the right time. U knew USC and UCLA were good, but Oregon State came from left field this year. Fun tournament. Also, the Zags are unbelievable.

You're right about P12. Oregon State was hot ending the season and they carried the momentum into the NCAAT.

UCLA barely got in with the play-in game. Maybe they used it as motivation. Heck of a run they are having.

IMO, USC a surprise team. I don't think many had them getting this far. Just another heck of a run.

[reef]

Yeah for some reason teams just peak at the right time it’s just weird that the teams that are hot are mostly from the Pac 12 after being mediocre for most of the year with no dominant team

[ramster]

6 players and we ran up and down the court all game long, every game. I don't know why kids can't do that today.

We were the 11-seed and beat 6-seed Missouri in the 1st round game in 1988. We played 6 guys and Bonzie Colton played only 8 minutes off the bench. Garrick, Owens and Evans all played 40 minutes. Sina played 38, Kenny Green played 34.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/bo ... souri.html

Unless Colson was hurt or something, I think that box score is wrong - Colson started that year and Green came off the bench. I just went to the replay (thanks RhodySurf) and Colson was in the starting lineup, not Green:

So box score is wrong. Colson started.

For that Missouri game, Colson only played 8 minutes and picked up a quick 4 fouls. Kenny Green played 34 minutes, 6-10 FG, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 block, 3 TOs, 2 fouls for 14 points.
Tom Garrick continued his outstanding play that year playing all 40 minutes, 10-23 FG, 9-12 FT, 12 rebounds with 7 offensive rebounds, 2 assists, 5 steals 1 block, 2 fouls and 29 points.
Owens also played 40 minutes, 7-16 FG, 9-10 FT, 1 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal 5 TOs, 25 points
Colson played 8 minutes, 1-2 FG, 4 fouls, 2 points.

For the 1988 Season:
Owens 21.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 5.1 apg, 45.9% 3FG, 85.9% FT
Garrick 20.5 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 4.1 apg, 54.8% 3FG, 79.3% FT
Green 14.5 ppg, 7.3 rpg, .7 apg, 70.2% FT
Evans 10.3 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 1.4 apg, 74% FT
Sina 8.7 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 2.3 apg, 60.3% FT
Colson 4.7 ppg, 5.3 rpg, .5 apg, 61.9% FT

[ramster]

Monday Night:

• 12-seed Oregon State vs 2-seed Houston (-8) 7:15pm CBS

• 3-seed Arkansas vs 1-seed Baylor (-7.5) 9:57pm CBS

Tuesday Night:

• 6-seed USC vs 1-seed Gonzaga (-9) 7:15pm TBS

• 11-seed UCLA vs 1-seed Michigan (-7) 9:57pm TBS

[theblueram]

Looks like it's gonna be chalk mostly this tournament.

[steviep123]

We were the 11-seed and beat 6-seed Missouri in the 1st round game in 1988. We played 6 guys and Bonzie Colton played only 8 minutes off the bench. Garrick, Owens and Evans all played 40 minutes. Sina played 38, Kenny Green played 34.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/bo ... souri.html

Unless Colson was hurt or something, I think that box score is wrong - Colson started that year and Green came off the bench. I just went to the replay (thanks RhodySurf) and Colson was in the starting lineup, not Green:

So box score is wrong. Colson started.

For that Missouri game, Colson only played 8 minutes and picked up a quick 4 fouls. Kenny Green played 34 minutes, 6-10 FG, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 block, 3 TOs, 2 fouls for 14 points.
Tom Garrick continued his outstanding play that year playing all 40 minutes, 10-23 FG, 9-12 FT, 12 rebounds with 7 offensive rebounds, 2 assists, 5 steals 1 block, 2 fouls and 29 points.
Owens also played 40 minutes, 7-16 FG, 9-10 FT, 1 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal 5 TOs, 25 points
Colson played 8 minutes, 1-2 FG, 4 fouls, 2 points.

For the 1988 Season:
Owens 21.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 5.1 apg, 45.9% 3FG, 85.9% FT
Garrick 20.5 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 4.1 apg, 54.8% 3FG, 79.3% FT
Green 14.5 ppg, 7.3 rpg, .7 apg, 70.2% FT
Evans 10.3 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 1.4 apg, 74% FT
Sina 8.7 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 2.3 apg, 60.3% FT
Colson 4.7 ppg, 5.3 rpg, .5 apg, 61.9% FT

Those season numbers for Garrick and Owens are insane. Have we ever had more than one 20+ ppg scorer in the same season? 45.9 and 54.8 3pt %?!?!?!

[Rhode_Island_Red]

Houston is running our zone offense.

[steviep123]

Houston is running our zone offense.

Was going to write Houston is pulling a Rhody vs. Duquesne. Was up 17 at Halftime, but allowed Oregon St. to tie it at 55. UH is up 60-56 with 1:13 to play.

[steviep123]

Houston holds on, avoiding the full Rhody.

[reef]

Congrats Houston they play solid defense and great offensive rebounding , I think Baylor bears then if they hold off Arkansas though

[Bos8]

Congrats Houston they play solid defense and great offensive rebounding , I think Baylor bears then if they hold off Arkansas though

Enjoyed watching them play. Very scrappy group. Even though Grimes didn’t shoot the ball that great, they still pulled it out. Don’t really remember DeJon from Umass but love watching him play.

[ramster]

Congrats Houston they play solid defense and great offensive rebounding , I think Baylor bears then if they hold off Arkansas though

Enjoyed watching them play. Very scrappy group. Even though Grimes didn’t shoot the ball that great, they still pulled it out. Don’t really remember DeJon from Umass but love watching him play.

Agree,
I love watching DeJon Jarreau.
Amazing play from him especially considering how he hurt his hip a few games ago.
Tonight Jarreau had 8 rebounds, 8 assists, 10 points
Last game vs Syracuse Jarreau has 8 rebounds, 8 assists, 9 points

DeJon is the guy who stirs the drink for Houston.
Love his style of play as he directs the offense for Kelvin Sampson’s team
Jarreau doesn’t dribble much, passes well, keeps the ball moving.
Can see why he was AAC Defensive POY. His blocked shots tonight were gems.
He seems like an extension of his coach out there on the floor. Sampson and Jarreau seem completely in sync.
Love his game, would like to see Jeremy Sheppard mimic much of Jarreau’s style of play as he leads Rhody at PG next season.

[RF1]

Houston is very much helping the perception and coffers of the AAC with its Final-4 run. The A-10 on the other hand is not tending in the right direction with regards to success and revenues for the tournament. The league had never had back to back tournaments in its 45 year history where it went winless until now. It had not had successive tournaments with just two teams in the field each season since back in 2007.

[ramster]

Monday Night:

• 12-seed Oregon State vs 2-seed Houston (-8) 7:15pm CBS

• 3-seed Arkansas vs 1-seed Baylor (-7.5) 9:57pm CBS

Tuesday Night:

• 6-seed USC vs 1-seed Gonzaga (-9) 7:15pm TBS

• 11-seed UCLA vs 1-seed Michigan (-7) 9:57pm TBS

Houston (-8) won by 6 so Oregon State beat the spread

Baylor (-7.5) won by 9 and beat the spread

Will be interesting to see how the PAC 12 does tonight against two 1-seeds

[reef]

Zags are a powerhouse so far !!

[NYGFan_Section208]

Zags are a powerhouse so far !!

& still

[ramster]

11-seed UCLA upsets 1-seed Michigan 51-49

[ramster]

Saturday Night:

• 2-seed Houston vs 1-seed Baylor (-5) 5:14pm CBS

• 11-seed UCLA vs 1-seed Gonzaga (-14) 8:34pm CBS

All 4 teams are West of the Mississippi.

[Rhodymob05]

Great game.

[JimSidd]

Zags look like a powerhouse right now maybe Baylor can give them a game in the finals

I’ve been thinking the same thing, but the way USC completely dismantled Kansas and are handling Oregon right now, if they keep this up in the second half, they could give Gonzaga a heck of a test.

Another bold prediction that blew up in my face. As I stated after my previous incorrect prediction, this is why I didn’t quit my job and move to Vegas and become a professional gambler.

[PeterRamTime]

Zags look like a powerhouse right now maybe Baylor can give them a game in the finals

I’ve been thinking the same thing, but the way USC completely dismantled Kansas and are handling Oregon right now, if they keep this up in the second half, they could give Gonzaga a heck of a test.

Another bold prediction that blew up in my face. As I stated after my previous incorrect prediction, this is why I didn’t quit my job and move to Vegas and become a professional gambler.

Yeah the Zags are playing a different game right now

[ramster]

Baylor favored by 5 over Houston
Gonzaga favored by 14 over UCLA

[rhodylaw]

Houston is very much helping the perception and coffers of the AAC with its Final-4 run. The A-10 on the other hand is not tending in the right direction with regards to success and revenues for the tournament. The league had never had back to back tournaments in its 45 year history where it went winless until now. It had not had successive tournaments with just two teams in the field each season since back in 2007.

Ehh...outside the top few teams the league stinks still. Would you be saying the same if there was a tourney last year and Dayton was a 1 or 2 seed and probably advanced far? I think the leagues are still very similar, where on a given year they can produce a very high end team.

[Jersey77]

The last time the Big10 won the National Championship was in 2000 (Michigan State), it's been 21 years.

[PlayMikeMotenMore]

The last time the Big10 won the National Championship was in 2000 (Michigan State), it's been 21 years.

True. In that time, they've had Michigan (13, 18), Illinois (05), Indiana (02), Ohio State (07, 12), Wisconsin (14, 15), MSU (01, 05, 09, 10, 15, 19) all make the Final Four and all make the championship game. (Remember, Virginia tied and then beat Purdue in the Elite 8 on a buzzer beater two years ago too.)

It just shows you what a crap shoot the tournament is...and it shows the depth of the Big Ten that so many programs have been able to get to the cusp in the last 20 years.

(Pac 12 has historically been Arizona and UCLA heavy...Oregon has gotten good recently.)
(ACC obviously is Duke/UNC heavy...with Virginia now at the top.)
(Big 12 Kansas has ruled...with Oklahoma, Texas Tech, Texas, Oklahoma State having had good seasons sprinkled in. Now Baylor is legit and Texas Tech seems legit too.)
(SEC...it's been Kentucky and Florida dominated with blips by South Carolina, Auburn, LSU)

[ramster]

Houston is very much helping the perception and coffers of the AAC with its Final-4 run. The A-10 on the other hand is not tending in the right direction with regards to success and revenues for the tournament. The league had never had back to back tournaments in its 45 year history where it went winless until now. It had not had successive tournaments with just two teams in the field each season since back in 2007.

Ehh...outside the top few teams the league stinks still. Would you be saying the same if there was a tourney last year and Dayton was a 1 or 2 seed and probably advanced far? I think the leagues are still very similar, where on a given year they can produce a very high end team.

This is a pretty good accomplishment for the AAC though.

Houston in the Final 4 is pretty big stuff. And they are not done yet. I'd love to see Kelvin Sampson, DeJon Jarreau and company upset Baylor and meet the winner of UCLA/Gonzaga in the national Championship.

A-10 Postseason has been dismal.

Overall Post Season:

A10 - 6 teams went 1-6
AAC - 4 teams went 8-2 with Houston still playing. Memphis won the NIT.

NCAA

A10 - 2 teams went 0-2
AAC - 2 teams went 4-1 and

• St Bonaventure Lost to LSU 61-76

• VCU Covid forfeit

• Houston

Beat Cleveland State
Beat Rutgers
Beat Syracuse
Beat Oregon State
Next up Baylor

• Wichita State

Lost to Drake 52-53

NIT

A10 - 4 teams went 1-4
AAC - 2 teams went 4-1 and Memphis won the NIT

• Memphis - Won the NIT

Beat Dayton 71-60
Beat Boise State 59-56
Beat Colorado State 90-67
Beat Mississippi State 84-62

• SMU lost to Boise State 84-85

• Dayton - Lost to Memphis 60-71

• Davidson - Lost to NC State 61-75

• St Louis - Lost to Mississippi State 68-74

• Richmond

Beat Toledo 76-66
Lost to Mississippi State 67-68