Week #13 - Games of Interest

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SLU looked in control up 9 but Daly with back to back 3 pointers have them down 5 with 3 to play.
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Joes has the same retros on as PC wore earlier. I think I saw VCU wear there’s recently. It’s more a retro look than a throwback specific to each school but they’re really clean looking.
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How did Ryan Daley end up at St Joes. 35 points vs SLU. Down 2 with 30 seconds. He has scored 11 points on their last 4 possessions
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SLU up 2 with 12 secs left going to the line.

Daly tried to take a bad 3. As good as he’s been- not the shot.
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Alabama with the loss at home along with losing Herb Jones to injury for a while.

Whole we’d like them to get to a Q1 win for us, we’re also battling with them for a bid.
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Rhody83 wrote: 4 years ago How did Ryan Daley end up at St Joes. 35 points vs SLU. Down 2 with 30 seconds. He has scored 11 points on their last 4 possessions
Transfer from Delaware.
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SLU escapes with the 78-73 win. Perkins has 33 for SLU and Daly 35 for the Hawks.
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And Davidson is crushing UMass by 29 late in the first half
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Halftime. Davidson 52 UMass 22. Wow
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Davidson scored 58 against us last month. They have only 8 less points in the first half tonight.

Not sure if I’m hoping the rout continues or if that will wake up UMass Tuesday.
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URI OOC opponents went 5-4 on the day - prominent losses were suffered by Alabama, Western Kentucky. Long Island, the NEC pre season favorite, continues to disappoint and Middle Tennessee surprisingly notched a road win.
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Obadiah wrote: 4 years ago URI OOC opponents went 5-4 on the day - prominent losses were suffered by Alabama, Western Kentucky. Long Island, the NEC pre season favorite, continues to disappoint and Middle Tennessee surprised with a road win.
You can't trust any of those other teams. That's why ya gotta beat everyone you play, and hope all those you're in contention with lose.
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I do not want Davidson in the A10 tourney.

The game down there going to be very tough.
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Rhody15 wrote: 4 years ago I do not want Davidson in the A10 tourney.

The game down there going to be very tough.
If we keep playing the way we have been playing I'm not afraid of anybody in the A-10, but Dayton.

Not that I'd be afraid for us to play them, but right now the eye test tells me we have separated from everyone below us in the standings.

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Dayton


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VCU


Richmond

SLU
Duquesne

And the rest.
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I’m surprised Utah State’s bubble position is so weak coming into today - they’re projected well outside the field as of now in the “next 4 out” but they are giving undefeated San Diego State all sorts of problems right now, at San Diego State.
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SDSU Beats Utah State 80-68 to remain undefeated
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Utah St was top 25 preseason but they have underperformed this year. Mountain West may be a 1 bid league ???
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Impressive for SDSU. Utah State is pretty good. Utah State led by 8 at half and by 10 early in the second half, and hung in against the Matt Mitchell barrage for a while but eventually SDSU was too much. Utah State probably won’t be punished much in the metrics (before the results of this game hit, they sit two behind URI in KenPom at 47), but if they won this game they may have leapfrogged a bunch of teams into the field - at least temporarily. They don’t have anymore games against SDSU in the regular season (they previously lost to them at home), so not sure they have the opportunity to make up a lot of ground. Unless they steal a bid, might be able to cross them off the list now.

ETA: after updating for this game, Utah State shaved a bit off its AdjEM but remained at 47. SDSU squeaked last Gonzaga into the #4 spot for now by the thinnest of margins.
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UMass can play well at times, but for the most part they stink.

Yes they're young, but you wonder how long a leash their administration will give McCall.

If you have a crappy head coach, doesn't matter how good his assistants are, that will negate them.

Remember Jerry Duh? He had a great staff, but it didn't matter.
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Utah St has wins over LSU and Florida but a few mediocre losses.
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rambone 78 wrote: 4 years ago Yes no BE team is bad.

But are any of them really good? Villanova was the standout for years, but they've come back to the pack a bit.

PC is playing better, but again how much of that is them, or are their opponents not really all that good?

The league's metrics imo are somewhat overinflated.....it's proven it lately when most of them lose in the early rounds in the dance.

I'll bet it happens again this year.

I also think we can play with any of them, at least this season.
The leagues metrics are not overinflated.

The difference is that the BE takes care of business in OOC.

Most teams come into conference with solid metrics and then beat each other up.

I agree on the tournament prospects though as I don’t think anyone besides SHU could make a deep run.
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rjsuperfly66 wrote: 4 years ago
rambone 78 wrote: 4 years ago Yes no BE team is bad.

But are any of them really good? Villanova was the standout for years, but they've come back to the pack a bit.

PC is playing better, but again how much of that is them, or are their opponents not really all that good?

The league's metrics imo are somewhat overinflated.....it's proven it lately when most of them lose in the early rounds in the dance.

I'll bet it happens again this year.

I also think we can play with any of them, at least this season.
The leagues metrics are not overinflated.

The difference is that the BE takes care of business in OOC.

Most teams come into conference with solid metrics and then beat each other up.

I agree on the tournament prospects though as I don’t think anyone besides SHU could make a deep run.
That’s fair. I’ll add that this season the A10 in general (with a couple of exceptions) did a much better job in both scheduling and beating their OOC opponents than in the past couple of years.
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Well the BE usually beats up on a boatload of stiffs OOC except for a few games against better teams.

Except for PC this year. Their OOC performance will likely relegate them to the NIT at best.
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rambone 78 wrote: 4 years ago Well the BE usually beats up on a boatload of stiffs OOC except for a few games against better teams.

Except for PC this year. Their OOC performance will likely relegate them to the NIT at best.
Define a few? The BE beat the following Top 50 teams (via KenPom: Maryland, Miss St, Kansas, Texas Tech x2, Oklahoma, Purdue x2, Minnesota x2, Stanford, Florida, Cincy, West Virginia, Arizona, and Iowa. That is 1.6 Top 50 wins per team in conference during OOC.

You aren’t going to build up good resumes just pounding on “stiffs” in OOC.
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I’d love to draw a BE team not named Seton Hall in the tourney. I’ll take my chances with any of them including Nova who is always skilled but very young this year.
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Seton Hall is built like 18’ Duke
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RhowdyRam02 wrote: 4 years ago In today's bubble action

Fourth to last bye Memphis is hosting UConn now on CBS
Third to last bye Florida is at Vanderbilt at 8:30 on SECN
Third to last in NC State vs #6 Louisville at 2 on ESPN
Second to last in Alabama vs Arkansas at 6 on SECN
Last in Mississippi State vs Tennessee at 2 on ESPNU
First out Stanford vs #11 Oregon at 6 on PACN
Second out Arizona State at Washington at 10:30 on PACN
Fourth out DePaul at Marquette at 2
Sixth out Virginia Tech vs #5 Florida State at 4
Seventh out Richmond vs George Washington at 6
Eighth out Xavier won at #10 Seton Hall 74-62
Memphis won 70-63
Florida won 61-55
NC State lost 77-57
Alabama lost 82-78
Mississippi State won 86-73
Stanford won 70-60
Arizona State won 87-83
DePaul lost 76-72
Virginia Tech lost 74-63
Richmond won 76-54
Xavier won 74-62

Bubble teams are now 37-40
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Today's bubble game is

Fifth out Georgetown at third out St. John's at 1 on CBS
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rjsuperfly66 wrote: 4 years ago
rambone 78 wrote: 4 years ago Yes no BE team is bad.

But are any of them really good? Villanova was the standout for years, but they've come back to the pack a bit.

PC is playing better, but again how much of that is them, or are their opponents not really all that good?

The league's metrics imo are somewhat overinflated.....it's proven it lately when most of them lose in the early rounds in the dance.

I'll bet it happens again this year.

I also think we can play with any of them, at least this season.
The leagues metrics are not overinflated.

The difference is that the BE takes care of business in OOC.

Most teams come into conference with solid metrics and then beat each other up.

I agree on the tournament prospects though as I don’t think anyone besides SHU could make a deep run.
I think KMac put it best. The Big East has a lot of really good teams this year, but no great teams.
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Not much action on Super Bowl Sunday with only one game in the A-10 - La Salle at Duquesne, 2 PM. On ESPN+.

In a game already underway, Iona is at Manhattan. Game is on ESPN+ and Manhattan has the early lead.
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Manhattan snaps a four game losing streak in defeating Iona, 72-49, a team that had previously beaten them seven straight games.
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St Johns loses a heartbreaker in the last 12 seconds to Georgetown after being up double digits.
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Obadiah wrote: 4 years ago Manhattan snaps a four game losing streak in defeating Iona, 72-49, a team that had previously beaten them seven straight games.
Iona sucks this year somehow.
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Duquesne survived a wild finish against La Salle beating the Explorers, 71-69. The Dukes led most of the game by upwards of 14 points.
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PeterRamTime wrote: 4 years ago
Obadiah wrote: 4 years ago Manhattan snaps a four game losing streak in defeating Iona, 72-49, a team that had previously beaten them seven straight games.
Iona sucks this year somehow.
Due to an undisclosed illness, Iona has been been without a head coach for most of the season.
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Obadiah wrote: 4 years ago
PeterRamTime wrote: 4 years ago
Obadiah wrote: 4 years ago Manhattan snaps a four game losing streak in defeating Iona, 72-49, a team that had previously beaten them seven straight games.
Iona sucks this year somehow.
Due to an undisclosed illness, Iona has been been without a head coach for most of the season.

Well that really sucks....
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Obadiah wrote: 4 years ago Duquesne survived a wild finish against La Salle beating the Explorers, 71-69. The Dukes led most of the game by upwards of 14 points.
Seems to be LaSalle’s M.O. i.e. these late surges in games.
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RhowdyRam02 wrote: 4 years ago Today's bubble game is

Fifth out Georgetown at third out St. John's at 1 on CBS
Georgetown gets the 73-72 win. Bubble teams are 38-41
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