'20 UK PF - Josh Ogundele (Iowa ---> Middle Tennessee)

RhodyKyle · Unread post by **RhodyKyle** » 4 years ago

SGreenwell wrote: ↑4 years ago
Rhody83 wrote: ↑4 years ago One weak picture by Univ of Cincinnati. The visit seemed generic. Tour of the facilities. They didn’t seem to personalize it like URI did.

Jesus, what did they use, a 2001 camera phone to snap that picture?

I believe they used a potato

rhodyfan3000 · Unread post by **rhodyfan3000** » 4 years ago

Not for nothing, but he looks like a traditional bearcat in that uniform, from years back when they were really good and had some beasts in the paint.

He looked really good in the Rhody uniform as well. The Iowa uniform didn't look all that impressive on him at all. I know that means nothing in the greater scheme of things, but fwiw...

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 4 years ago

Did Cooley just wake up from a long nap. The kid announced his final 5 last week. PC must be missing on all the primary targets to be offering now.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 4 years ago

If we lose him to them...

rhodyfan3000 · Unread post by **rhodyfan3000** » 4 years ago

That's a tough pill to swallow

rhodyfan3000 · Unread post by **rhodyfan3000** » 4 years ago

At this stage of the game, it's kind of obvious that he likes the additional attention and the buzz that goes along with it. Who wouldn't?

However, pitting Rhode Island vs Providence isn't the way to go about it.

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 4 years ago

He will likely listen because of locality.

rhodyblue12 · Unread post by **rhodyblue12** » 4 years ago

Kind of a dick move by Ed.

Counting on Josh being much smarter than that. He will see right through that BS.
Deep down Josh knows that URI is the place he needs to be. I feel good about this one.

eli#10 · Unread post by **eli#10** » 4 years ago

That is because Ed is a big DICK.

rhodyfan3000 · Unread post by **rhodyfan3000** » 4 years ago

Well, I think that pretty much solidifies that this kid has some significant talent, where he wouldn't just sit on the bench for a few years.

Whenever we are involved with a big man that has any kind of significant worth, and isn't just fools gold, WITHOUT FAIL, P.C. will try to swoop in at the last second. If they didn't, it's likely because the big man we were looking at was a project or a risk of some sort or just wasn't worth the scholarship.

So, I'm feeling pretty good about this guy, should he commit.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 4 years ago

rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago Well, I think that pretty much solidifies that this kid has some significant talent, where he wouldn't just sit on the bench for a few years.

Whenever we are involved with a big man that has any kind of significant worth, and isn't just fools gold, WITHOUT FAIL, P.C. will try to swoop in at the last second. If they didn't, it's likely because the big man we were looking at was a project or a risk of some sort or just wasn't worth the scholarship.

So, I'm feeling pretty good about this guy, should he commit.

What recruits are you referring to that PC has swooped in at the last second on?

CHICO 78 · Unread post by **CHICO 78** » 4 years ago

4 decades waiting for payback ..... can you say Sly Williams

rhodyfan3000 · Unread post by **rhodyfan3000** » 4 years ago

I'm going back 20-30 years. Kevin Mac even wrote that PC was in the "Odom" sweepstakes at one point. Rico Harris was another. Let's put it this way, it hasn't happened often, and that's the point, usually they have no interest in the big men we are looking at.

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 4 years ago

Josh may take the bait....I’m sure Cooley and staff reached out and spoke to them before offering.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

If it's truly about building relationships PC should have zero chance......

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 4 years ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑4 years ago If it's truly about building relationships PC should have zero chance......

Kid doesn’t seem to care too much about that aspect judging by things he has said....

SandorClegane · Unread post by **SandorClegane** » 4 years ago

McCleod 2.0..

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 4 years ago

PC can just about sell him the same thing we are....

rhodyfan3000 · Unread post by **rhodyfan3000** » 4 years ago

I don't really want to say anything further until he declares where he is going. If he goes to any of his top 5, including the two schools who haven't even offered him, then I'll be disappointed if it's someone other than Rhody, but that's fine.

If someone like PC or anyone else swoops in at the last possible moment and he elopes, the kid is a mercenary just looking for the highest bidder.

One thing about our last two recruits and the other half dozen for this year, none of them were Merc's.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 4 years ago

Article on Cincinnati visit. Not sure the writer knows much about the recruiting process. There is no early December signing period.

Cincinnati Head Coach John Brannen and his staff hosted a priority recruiting target when Worcester Prep (MA) Center Josh Ogundele made his official visit to Cincinnati last weekend. Bearcat Journal caught up with the British born big man for thoughts on his visit, his most recent offer, and the status of his recruitment.

“My host was Robert Banks (freshman walk on, also originally from England) and he talked to me about how good of an experience he’s had at Cincinnati (so far) and he would like for me to come to Cincinnati. He spoke about what Coach Brannen was able to achieve at Northern Kentucky,” said Ogundele.

Ogundele has taken recent official visits to Rhode Island and Iowa and he picked up an offer from Providence today and he might take a visit there but that has not been determined yet.

“I liked the campus, it’s in the city and I liked that. All of the buildings and athletic facilities look new and it’s one of the nicest campuses I’ve seen. I also had a good talk with two of the academic advisers for 35 or 40 minutes about the education at Cincinnati,” said Ogundele.

“I was able to watch two practices and the team plays at a fast pace and they play through their big men. (What stood out) was the team plays for each other and they really focused on defense in practice. The coaches talked about how they have a good class coming in with the twins (Gabe and Mason Madsen) and a fast point guard (Mike Saunders Jr.) and that I can play early if I work hard, it won’t be given to me. Coach Brannen also talked about having connections in the business world and basketball after college is over,” said Ogundele.

With the early signing period looming in December Ogundele may pick a school in the near future and sign early, but left the door open for choosing a school.

“I would play center and I’d have freedom on offense and that appeals to me because I’m not a big man who just plays in the post. I can step outside and handle the ball a bit.

“I was able to talk to Zach Harvey, Jeremiah Davenport and Mamoudou Diarra and they told Coach Brannen has a vision and has connections outside of basketball. I also saw Cincinnati was one of 16 teams favored to win it all (Cincinnati was mentioned in a recent article as a dark horse national title contender),” said Ogundele.

“I also met with the strength and conditioning coach (Mike Rehfeldt) and he spoke me about having a training plan to better my body.”

“I really like the vibe of the city and the team,” said Ogundele.

Stay tuned to BCJ for all of your Cincinnati football and basketball team news and recruiting info.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 4 years ago

SandorClegane wrote: ↑4 years ago McCleod 2.0..

McLeod was ranked #119, Ogundele is #297

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 4 years ago

ramster wrote: ↑4 years ago
SandorClegane wrote: ↑4 years ago McCleod 2.0..
McLeod was ranked #119, Ogundele is #297

That’s not the point. Suffice it to say, Josh is being recruited by better schools. All in P5 conferences, except for us.

McLeod’s final list was URI, LaSalle and FSU.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 4 years ago

Xavier Foster - Ranked #51 ESPN, is now waiting until Nov 11 to decide
Ogundele visited Iowa with Foster. Some comments from Ogundele were made about how they would like to play together after having spent time visiting Iowa together.

So is this Cooley strategy to get Xavier Foster to PC by now making a recent offer to Ogundele? Certainly looks like it. Smart strategy for Cooley if he gets a Top 50 recruit and a guy in Ogundele with potential (plus steal away Rhody’s most coveted big man recruiting target)

From the DesMoine register article......
So, what now?
There's less than a month until decision day.
The Fosters will try to schedule one more in-home visit with Iowa, Iowa State, Providence and Virginia Tech. Baylor added four-star 7-footer Zach Loveday in late September, filling Foster's potential spot.
DaJuan said both Iowa and Iowa State have respectfully encouraged Xavier to commit when he knows in his heart where he wants to play. But DaJuan honestly doesn't think his son knows where that is yet.

And this from a previous desmoine register article regarding PC

In other news, the Fosters' Sept. 20-22 official visit to Providence went well. DaJuan said they didn't really know what to expect, but they were impressed with the city and the campus. And it was very clear that Providence is a basketball school. "The school was cool. Being there — it was so small. And the resources are unbelievable," DaJuan said.
Xavier Foster is set to take his final official visit to Iowa from Oct. 11-13, the weekend of the Penn State football game. Baylor landed four-star 7-footer Zach Loveday last week, which probably completes its 2020 recruiting class and pulls the Bears out of the running for Foster. DaJuan said they're trying to work out final in-home visit dates with the schools in the mix, which, if Baylor is out, would be Iowa State, Iowa, Providence and Virginia Tech.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story ... 994672002/

URIRecruitingInfo · Unread post by **URIRecruitingInfo** » 4 years ago

Iowa just got 2 more verbals, so there already up to 4 for 2020 which may take the Foster/Ogundele duo thing off of the table for them.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 4 years ago

The 6’8” identical Murray twins committed yesterday to Iowa

https://www.thegazette.com/subject/spor ... a-20191021

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 4 years ago

Iowa did get commits from twins Keegan and Kris Murray. Their father played for Iowa.
Class is PG, SG & 2 SF.

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 4 years ago

Bodes well for us IF Josh doesn’t go through with the PC visit.

Cincy telling Josh that he’d have to earn his spot there likely turned him off a bit. Here, they will likely insert him a lot sooner into the offense.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 4 years ago

The Murray twins did not have high D1 offers out of HS, at Basketball prep school in Daytona. They were not sure if both would get offers from Iowa, when they did they jumped.
Scholarships currently full now at Iowa but for sure they would find room for Foster.

The timing of offering the Murray twins makes one wonder if Fran McCaffrey already knows Foster and Ogundele are headed to Fryatown.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 4 years ago

The Iowa move makes no since. They could use one big no matter what.
I can’t believe that there is any way McCaffrey would have been told by Foster AND Ogundele they are both committing to PC. No way Josh has made that decision yet before evening visiting PC. I also believe the verbal commitment from the Iowa twins happened before PC even offered Josh.

Josh also sits his Fr year behind Watson and Foster. Nichols would be ahead of Josh at PF too.

URIRecruitingInfo · Unread post by **URIRecruitingInfo** » 4 years ago

Package deals for players who grew up together or play AAU together for years or play at the same prep school together rarely actually happen. Package deals for players who met and got along on a weekend visit I think just got invented in this thread.
If Foster and Ogundele go to Iowa its because both individually really want to play there.
PC didn't offer Ogundele to get to Foster. PC offered Ogundele because they aren't hitting on their other targets including Foster.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 4 years ago

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 4 years ago

Iowa might be able to make room for Foster if he were to select them, but very doubtful now that Ogundele could go to Iowa. Interesting how Fran Mc told Foster family and HS Coach week or more earlier that he would likely get the Murray twins. About the same time Big Ed offered Ogundele.

bkoeppen · Unread post by **bkoeppen** » 4 years ago

URIRecruitingInfo wrote: ↑4 years ago Package deals for players who grew up together or play AAU together for years or play at the same prep school together rarely actually happen. Package deals for players who met and got along on a weekend visit I think just got invented in this thread.
If Foster and Ogundele go to Iowa its because both individually really want to play there.
PC didn't offer Ogundele to get to Foster. PC offered Ogundele because they aren't hitting on their other targets including Foster.

well said and hopefully puts the conspiracy theories to bed.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 4 years ago

Well with this Iowa news happening do you guys think we are the favorite now ???

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 4 years ago

reef wrote: ↑4 years ago Well with this Iowa news happening do you guys think we are the favorite now ???

Not with PC swooping in

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

We still don't know if he will be visiting PC....I'd say we have a good chance as of right now.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 4 years ago

DC Rams lives in fear of the Friar

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 4 years ago

One of his comments after the Cincy visit is that he loved that the campus is in the city. If that's a factor, we're done.

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 4 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑4 years ago DC Rams lives in fear of the Friar

Hahaha!

It’s a no brainer. It’s a quick drive to be wined and dined. He has OV’s to burn, why not go?

rhodyfan3000 · Unread post by **rhodyfan3000** » 4 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑4 years ago DC Rams lives in fear of the Friar

It's like several years back when I had a shih tzu puppy, almost full grown, white and brindle, and either a hawk or an owl, some sort of bird of prey, mistook him for a rabbit and tried to snatch him out of the back yard. He had big claw mark lacerations in his neck, the bird must have misjudged his size and dropped him before getting too high off the ground.

After that, that dog never went in the back yard without his head on a swivel, looking around yapping at the least little thing.

That's us watching PC trying to "swoop in" on this recruit lol

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 4 years ago

Who is the last recruit that URI was in his final 5 and lost to PC?
Serious question because I didn’t follow recruiting that closely until the last three years.

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 4 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑4 years ago Who is the last recruit that URI was in his final 5 and lost to PC?
Serious question because I didn’t follow recruiting that closely until the last three years.

None that I recall.

Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 4 years ago

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DC_Rams wrote: ↑4 years ago
Rhody83 wrote: ↑4 years ago Who is the last recruit that URI was in his final 5 and lost to PC?
Serious question because I didn’t follow recruiting that closely until the last three years.
None that I recall.

The reverse has happened. Need I mention Sly?

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 4 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑4 years ago Did Cooley just wake up from a long nap. The kid announced his final 5 last week. PC must be missing on all the primary targets to be offering now.

He listed his Top 5 “that he was focusing on.” He never technically said “this is my final list of schools.” Maybe it’s parsing words, but with PC offering at this point, it’s because there has been some indication that the party is still open to seeing what’s out there. Doesn’t mean he chooses any of those new options.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 4 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑4 years ago Who is the last recruit that URI was in his final 5 and lost to PC?
Serious question because I didn’t follow recruiting that closely until the last three years.

We were in Jared Terrell’s final 10 with pc. Not sure about final 5.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 4 years ago

theblueram wrote: ↑4 years ago
Rhody83 wrote: ↑4 years ago Who is the last recruit that URI was in his final 5 and lost to PC?
Serious question because I didn’t follow recruiting that closely until the last three years.
We were in Jared Terrell’s final 10 with pc. Not sure about final 5.

I think URI won that recruiting battle

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 4 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑4 years ago Who is the last recruit that URI was in his final 5 and lost to PC?
Serious question because I didn’t follow recruiting that closely until the last three years.

Bruce “Soup” Campbell broke my heart when he chose PC. Soup played with URI great PG Jiggy Williamson at Wilbur Cross High School. We were hoping Soup would chose to play along with Jiggy at URI but he selected the Fryuzzzz.

https://www.providencejournal.com/sport ... 136447.ece

Jiggys older brother was Super John Williamson who played in the NBA and ABA. Super John also played at Wilbur Cross and averaged 40 ppg his senior year. Jiggy, Soup and Super John all died too soon.

rhodyfan3000 · Unread post by **rhodyfan3000** » 4 years ago

rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑4 years ago He listed his Top 5 “that he was focusing on.” He never technically said “this is my final list of schools.” Maybe it’s parsing words, but with PC offering at this point, it’s because there has been some indication that the party is still open to seeing what’s out there. Doesn’t mean he chooses any of those new options.

Is it customary for the Swooper to console the Swoopee while in the process of swooping in?

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 4 years ago

RJ you are parsing words. However, there are plenty of examples of schools offering late in the process and getting the commitment including some where the recruit put out his final list without that school on it.

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 4 years ago

rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago
rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑4 years ago He listed his Top 5 “that he was focusing on.” He never technically said “this is my final list of schools.” Maybe it’s parsing words, but with PC offering at this point, it’s because there has been some indication that the party is still open to seeing what’s out there. Doesn’t mean he chooses any of those new options.

Is it customary for the Swooper to console the Swoopee while in the process of swooping in?

Who is swooping? People here are talking like a PC offer is an automatic commitment. Just because the door may have been ajar enough for PC to feel comfortable making an offer doesn’t mean anything. It may, it may not. You should continue to be confident unless you hear other rumblings. It’s not like Ogundele came out and said he wants to completely reopen his recruitment and slow things down.

PC was recruiting Shakeel Moore out of NC and were considered the leaders until Moore decided to “completely reopen his recruitment.” That’s a negative sign.