2019 Offseason Discussion

[Rhody83]

A longer video of their workout. I know Chase is looking forward to having a complete offseason with these guys. Expect big results for next season.

[ramster]

How about 3 point and free throw shooting crowd?

[Rhody83]

The players shoot every day.

[reef]

Great stuff indeed

[bigappleram]

Who was the 3rd guy? Didn't look like CT or Tyrese...kinda looked like Preston but have to imagine as a graduate he isn't still working out with the team. Also worth noting was Marial squatting 60% less weight than Fatts, should tell you a bit about how much strength work that kid will need to get to what is necessary at Div 1 level.

The three big guys are Cyril, Harris & Walker.
BAR a weightlifting expert with the 60% less comment. You forgot the weight of the bar which is either 35 lbs or 45 lbs.
so Mading is using somewhere between 32-35% less weight. This last few months is the first time he has been in a legit S&C program. The others are 1-3 years ahead of him.
The exercise isn’t a heavy weight exercise. It is more about the depth of the squat and the smoothness (slower motion). They are doing this on an incline as well.

Yeah realized I forgot the bar in my calculation but was too lazy to redo the math. So fake news and 60% it was . And while they weren’t maxing out on squats and form is key, i’d say it’s a fairly good barometer for how much strength Marial lacks compared to our 5’10 160 pound PG.
No knock on the kid but moreso to illustrate what a big leap it is from high school to college athletics.

[Rhody83]

If you are judging based on that (which you shouldn’t) you should also conclude that our 5’10” PG is as strong as our three big men. They all had 25 lbs weights on the bar.

[RhodyRamFan69]

Who was the 3rd guy? Didn't look like CT or Tyrese...kinda looked like Preston but have to imagine as a graduate he isn't still working out with the team. Also worth noting was Marial squatting 60% less weight than Fatts, should tell you a bit about how much strength work that kid will need to get to what is necessary at Div 1 level.

The three big guys are Cyril, Harris & Walker.
BAR a weightlifting expert with the 60% less comment. You forgot the weight of the bar which is either 35 lbs or 45 lbs.
so Mading is using somewhere between 32-35% less weight. This last few months is the first time he has been in a legit S&C program. The others are 1-3 years ahead of him.
The exercise isn’t a heavy weight exercise. It is more about the depth of the squat and the smoothness (slower motion). They are doing this on an incline as well.

Yeah realized I forgot the bar in my calculation but was too lazy to redo the math. So fake news and 60% it was . And while they weren’t maxing out on squats and form is key, i’d say it’s a fairly good barometer for how much strength Marial lacks compared to our 5’10 160 pound PG.
No knock on the kid but moreso to illustrate what a big leap it is from high school to college athletics.

Friendly reminder that Kevin Durant couldn't get 185lbs off his chest in college. Marial is a guard, I'm more concerned with him gaining agility and speed in the offseason.

[ramster]

The three big guys are Cyril, Harris & Walker.
BAR a weightlifting expert with the 60% less comment. You forgot the weight of the bar which is either 35 lbs or 45 lbs.
so Mading is using somewhere between 32-35% less weight. This last few months is the first time he has been in a legit S&C program. The others are 1-3 years ahead of him.
The exercise isn’t a heavy weight exercise. It is more about the depth of the squat and the smoothness (slower motion). They are doing this on an incline as well.

Yeah realized I forgot the bar in my calculation but was too lazy to redo the math. So fake news and 60% it was . And while they weren’t maxing out on squats and form is key, i’d say it’s a fairly good barometer for how much strength Marial lacks compared to our 5’10 160 pound PG.
No knock on the kid but moreso to illustrate what a big leap it is from high school to college athletics.

Friendly reminder that Kevin Durant couldn't get 185lbs off his chest in college. Marial is a guard, I'm more concerned with him gaining agility and speed in the offseason.

And please have all training efforts consider impact on improving shooting efficiency for all - our greatest weakness in 2018-2019

[Rhody83]

More encouraging news from Chase from another workout

[bkoeppen]

not a fan of chase - find his posts to be self serving and promoting himself, rather than the team - figure out a weight lifting exercise that can get the team to shoot better than 20% from 3.

[STC]

Oh god his posts are insufferable.

[RamStock]

not a fan of chase - find his posts to be self serving and promoting himself, rather than the team - figure out a weight lifting exercise that can get the team to shoot better than 20% from 3.

Yup. He wants a pat on the back every time the players work out. I guess everyone of us should post what went well at work for us everyday. I’m not sure what we have accomplished so far with his weight lifting? The programs look like they could have some value, but how about concentrating on improving 3 pt and foul shooting.

[ramster]

not a fan of chase - find his posts to be self serving and promoting himself, rather than the team - figure out a weight lifting exercise that can get the team to shoot better than 20% from 3.

Yup. He wants a pat on the back every time the players work out. I guess everyone of us should post what went well at work for us everyday. I’m not sure what we have accomplished so far with his weight lifting? The programs look like they could have some value, but how about concentrating on improving 3 pt and foul shooting.

We did not suffer last season due to strength and conditioning. We lost because we were a horrible 3 point shooting team.
All these weight training promotions seem excessive. Would love to see videos of how we are working on our most glaring weakness.

[Billyboy78]

Heavy leg strengthening exercises for everyone. Heavy upper body work for inside players. Light upper body work for perimeter players. I don't want shooters to look like bodybuilders. I want their upper bodies to be loose.

[Rhody83]

What a fan base. He knows what he is doing. Just like Marshall did the years he was here. The videos are taken by Video Coordinator. They are a planned effort by the staff to promote Rhody’s S&C to recruits and fans. Support your team.

I think Chase, Cox and the coaches all know more about the amount and type of strength & conditioning is best for the players than everyone on this Board.

I also think Cox, all the of coaches and all of the players know more about improving their shooting than everyone on Twitter his Boatd.

If only Rhody had coach for the day and trainer for the day, our team would be so much better with all the experts in our fan base.

[bigappleram]

Can people please stop inferring these guys need to take more practice shots. I guarantee these kids live in the gym getting up shots, work with personal trainers all summer on skill development and in general bust their ass to have a chance to play at the next level and achieve their dreams. You don’t get to D1 without countless hours in the gym working on your game without cameras or eyeballs on you.

Also you could take 1,000 free throws in an empty Ryan Center and not 1 of them would help you much when there are 3 minutes left in a high stakes game in front of 10,000 people and you have to make two. It’s focus and confidence and the ability to repeat solid mechanics in high stress situations, that’s hard to simulate in a practice setting. I promise these kids practice free throws even if you don’t see an Instagram video of them doing so.

[bkoeppen]

What a fan base. He knows what he is doing. Just like Marshall did the years he was here. The videos are taken by Video Coordinator. They are a planned effort by the staff to promote Rhody’s S&C to recruits and fans. Support your team.

I think Chase, Cox and the coaches all know more about the amount and type of strength & conditioning is best for the players than everyone on this Board.

I also think Cox, all the of coaches and all of the players know more about improving their shooting than everyone on Twitter his Boatd.

If only Rhody had coach for the day and trainer for the day, our team would be so much better with all the experts in our fan base.

These posts are coming from his Instagram account, not rhodymbb or another university account. maybe he is getting help with video taping, but no way are these a coordinated effort by the team, nor do they really help with recruiting or help generate fans, that's just not true - every school has a weight training program - recruits are not impressed. If you don't see the self promotion in his posts, not sure what to tell you - the crap he posted on the beach in Hawaii, was so stupid and self serving - just not a fan of the self promotion, he could be a great strength coach, time will tell. the job of a strength coach is to keep your guys healthy and strong, which he did a pretty good job of this year. I was joking about finding exercises to make the 3 pt. shooting better - obviously that's not the job of a strength coach.

[sevegny7]

If it is so insufferable then dont follow him it is pretty simple. I think chase is a good s&c coach and those who think other wise dont really matter anyways. You guys find anything and everything to complain about. Too hard schedule now. When most complained they couldnt get good opponents. Now attacking the strength coach for god forbid promoting the necessary work you need to gain explosiveness...durability...overall strength.

[sevegny7]

In order to play tough hard defense. Attack the basket explosively through contact. Get rebounds as a wing or guard in traffic with big guys. All this work needs to be done now.

[Rhody83]

What a fan base. He knows what he is doing. Just like Marshall did the years he was here. The videos are taken by Video Coordinator. They are a planned effort by the staff to promote Rhody’s S&C to recruits and fans. Support your team.

I think Chase, Cox and the coaches all know more about the amount and type of strength & conditioning is best for the players than everyone on this Board.

I also think Cox, all the of coaches and all of the players know more about improving their shooting than everyone on Twitter his Boatd.

If only Rhody had coach for the day and trainer for the day, our team would be so much better with all the experts in our fan base.

These posts are coming from his Instagram account, not rhodymbb or another university account. maybe he is getting help with video taping, but no way are these a coordinated effort by the team, nor do they really help with recruiting or help generate fans, that's just not true - every school has a weight training program - recruits are not impressed. If you don't see the self promotion in his posts, not sure what to tell you - the crap he posted on the beach in Hawaii, was so stupid and self serving - just not a fan of the self promotion, he could be a great strength coach, time will tell. the job of a strength coach is to keep your guys healthy and strong, which he did a pretty good job of this year. I was joking about finding exercises to make the 3 pt. shooting better - obviously that's not the job of a strength coach.

I will let Ryan McCloskey (who told me) know that he is wrong. If you don’t think Coach Cox has input to everything that includes URI basketball, you don’t know how a D1 MBB program is run.

[Taylor Swift]

Oh..M...Gee. You all realize social media posts are highlight reels and nothing more, right? If someone posts a pic of their dinner they’re not showing you their meal prep and their cleanup, correct? Same goes for what Campbell and the players are posting. That account is his personal account and isn’t part of the official Rhody MBB account if you think he “promotes himself”. I am certain David and the rest of the staff have full confidence in Chase and what he’s doing. Based on what I see on IG these guys are shooting around at the RC. Plus, it’s not their responsibility to appease you with their every move in the off season. Sometimes I’m surprised I don’t see someone commenting on what one of these guys is having for dinner, “well, when I played JV... we had blue cheese and not ranch”.

[bkoeppen]

What a fan base. He knows what he is doing. Just like Marshall did the years he was here. The videos are taken by Video Coordinator. They are a planned effort by the staff to promote Rhody’s S&C to recruits and fans. Support your team.

I think Chase, Cox and the coaches all know more about the amount and type of strength & conditioning is best for the players than everyone on this Board.

I also think Cox, all the of coaches and all of the players know more about improving their shooting than everyone on Twitter his Boatd.

If only Rhody had coach for the day and trainer for the day, our team would be so much better with all the experts in our fan base.

These posts are coming from his Instagram account, not rhodymbb or another university account. maybe he is getting help with video taping, but no way are these a coordinated effort by the team, nor do they really help with recruiting or help generate fans, that's just not true - every school has a weight training program - recruits are not impressed. If you don't see the self promotion in his posts, not sure what to tell you - the crap he posted on the beach in Hawaii, was so stupid and self serving - just not a fan of the self promotion, he could be a great strength coach, time will tell. the job of a strength coach is to keep your guys healthy and strong, which he did a pretty good job of this year. I was joking about finding exercises to make the 3 pt. shooting better - obviously that's not the job of a strength coach.

I will let Ryan McCloskey (who told me) know that he is wrong. If you don’t think Coach Cox has input to everything that includes URI basketball, you don’t know how a D1 MBB program is run.

Great tell him and the tooth fairy I say hi!

[Iggy1979]

Any news on the coaching staff?

[Rhody83]

It is interesting that Thompson is graduating and didn’t look into grad transfer option to get more playing time.

[Rhody74]

It is interesting that Thompson is graduating and didn’t look into grad transfer option to get more playing time.

I know he didn’t perform up to expectations, especially offensively, but I still think he’s a classy guy and an asset to the team.

[UCH21377]

Good for him! He clearly understands his opportunity at URI is more than just basketball.

[Taylor Swift]

All the best luck to Christion, Will, and Ryan on graduating in a few weeks.

[Iggy1979]

And he'll be able to start on his master's degree. Congrats.

[Rhody83]

Jeff top player and top scholar

[ace]

APRs are out- URI scored 1000 for 17-18. Multi-year rate stands at 990.

17-18: 1000
16-17: 1000
15-16: 979
14-15: 980
13-14: 979
12-13: 1000



Kind of different than the 813 from 2011-12 (multi-year rate at that point was 926).

[Section104]

Is there a link or cliffnotes on how it's calculated - essentially you maintain 1000 if players that transfer out land/enroll somewhere else? Layssard will be our first true negative in a few years, no?

[NYGFan_Section208]

This is the Cliff's Notes version:

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[ace]

Is there a link or cliffnotes on how it's calculated - essentially you maintain 1000 if players that transfer out land/enroll somewhere else? Layssard will be our first true negative in a few years, no?

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/res ... -explained


The APR is calculated as follows:

Each student-athlete receiving athletically related financial aid earns one point for staying in school and one point for being academically eligible.

A team’s total points are divided by points possible and then multiplied by 1,000 to equal the team’s Academic Progress Rate.

In addition to a team’s current-year APR, its rolling four-year APR is also used to determine accountability.

Teams must earn a four-year average APR of 930 to compete in championships.

[Rhode_Island_Red]

How does it handle one-and-dones? Seems there should be some negative consequences for programs that keep turning over like that. A one-and-done really only needs to go to classes for the fall semester and take the spring semester off.

[RhowdyRam02]

Should we be getting concerned with the amount of people transferring out of the program?

[Rhody74]

Should we be getting concerned with the amount of people transferring out of the program?

I’m not.

[Taylor Swift]

Should we be getting concerned with the amount of people transferring out of the program?

I’m not.

Same.

[Rhody15]

Should we be getting concerned with the amount of people transferring out of the program?

Happens at almost every program when there is a new coach.

Same thing happened with Hurley when he took over.

[RhowdyRam02]

Should we be getting concerned with the amount of people transferring out of the program?

Happens at almost every program when there is a new coach.

Same thing happened with Hurley when he took over.

We were told that Cox was the only one we should consider hiring because he was the only one who could continue what was happening under Hurley. That if we hired someone else we would have a mass exodus. He doesn't get the new coach excuse. He's lost one of the recruits and five players early, that's concerning.

[Rhody83]

Should we be getting concerned with the amount of people transferring out of the program?

Happens at almost every program when there is a new coach.

Same thing happened with Hurley when he took over.

A Grad Transfer is different. Christion was here for 4 years and is graduating.
Not concerned at all.

[ace]

Should we be getting concerned with the amount of people transferring out of the program?

Happens at almost every program when there is a new coach.

Same thing happened with Hurley when he took over.

Different set of circumstances. Hurley had guys who were kicked out of school or not academically eligible (to the point that keeping them would have led to sanctions) or went to play for their dad (although that’s really just the one guy).

Looking objectively at Cox’s body of work so far, it seems like he may not be so opposed to pushing guys out. Every coach has to handle their program in the way they feel is appropriate. There’s been a lot of turnover, and I don’t think Cox necessarily should be criticized or reflexively defended for it. I do think it’s something that will be interesting to check moving forward.

[Rhody83]

Should we be getting concerned with the amount of people transferring out of the program?

Happens at almost every program when there is a new coach.

Same thing happened with Hurley when he took over.

Different set of circumstances. Hurley had guys who were kicked out of school or not academically eligible (to the point that keeping them would have led to sanctions) or went to play for their dad (although that’s really just the one guy).

Looking objectively at Cox’s body of work so far, it seems like he may not be so opposed to pushing guys out. Every coach has to handle their program in the way they feel is appropriate. There’s been a lot of turnover, and I don’t think Cox necessarily should be criticized or reflexively defended for it. I do think it’s something that will be interesting to check moving forward.

Agree.
Akele and Thompson graduated so that is different. I don’t think Akele got pushed out. He left because he wanted to play pro ball back home. Thompson could’ve been persuaded based on projected playing time next year (discussed in year end interview).

Layssard was dismissed for disciplinary reasons.
Tertsea was a recruiting mistake. He could’ve been pushed out. Btw, he hasn’t left URI yet and is working on graduating.

[Billyboy78]

Have we lost any significant players? If so, I missed it. A couple of decent role players, maybe. If Jeff, Cyril, Fatts, Tyrese or Jermaine had transferred, I might be concerned.

[RamStock]

Have we lost any significant players? If so, I missed it. A couple of decent role players, maybe. If Jeff, Cyril, Fatts, Tyrese or Jermaine had transferred, I might be concerned.

I agree. There hasn’t been one player that has left that we should lose any sleep over. This creates more minutes for a Martin, Sheppard and potentially if we land someone else

[Rhody74]

Have we lost any significant players? If so, I missed it. A couple of decent role players, maybe. If Jeff, Cyril, Fatts, Tyrese or Jermaine had transferred, I might be concerned.

I agree. There hasn’t been one player that has left that we should lose any sleep over. This creates more minutes for a Martin, Sheppard and potentially if we land someone else

With the exception of the Greek kid who set world record for fouls per second, all new replacements have been better than the guys who left.

[Taylor Swift]

Have we lost any significant players? If so, I missed it. A couple of decent role players, maybe. If Jeff, Cyril, Fatts, Tyrese or Jermaine had transferred, I might be concerned.

Winner winner!

[KevanBoyles]

Do we know what happened with Layssard?

[KevanBoyles]

Should we be getting concerned with the amount of people transferring out of the program?

I’ve been following Tony Bennett at Virginia since day one. During the first several years I was concerned with the players they were coming in and out of his program but look what happened. You might recall that Billy Barron went there his first year and transferred out pretty quickly.

[RhowdyRam02]

Have we lost any significant players? If so, I missed it. A couple of decent role players, maybe. If Jeff, Cyril, Fatts, Tyrese or Jermaine had transferred, I might be concerned.

I agree. There hasn’t been one player that has left that we should lose any sleep over. This creates more minutes for a Martin, Sheppard and potentially if we land someone else

With the exception of the Greek kid who set world record for fouls per second, all new replacements have been better than the guys who left.

How do we know that? Tertsea and Layssard for instance were considered three star bigs with potential and we haven't seen what the new players will do. They could be better, they could just ride the bench until they leave or they could be busts Aris style

[RhowdyRam02]

Should we be getting concerned with the amount of people transferring out of the program?

I’ve been following Tony Bennett at Virginia since day one. During the first several years I was concerned with the players they were coming in and out of his program but look what happened. You might recall that Billy Barron went there his first year and transferred out pretty quickly.

Tony Bennett took over a program he wasn't affiliated with that was doing poorly, Cox took over a program he was very involved in that was running well, two totally different things. Also the main reason for hiring Cox was continuity and yet we're hemorrhaging players that he was involved in recruiting and coaching. Why?

You'll have to forgive me that I'm not ready to favorably compare Bennett and Cox