NCAA Tournament - General Discussion

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

Goaltending??!?? Yep that SMU guy is really stupid.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 9 years ago

Crazy ending in the SMU-UCLA game. SMU throws it away with a 2pt lead with under 30 seconds. A goal tending is called on a 3pt attempt by UCLA with about 10 seconds left to put them up by 1. SMU fails to score. UCLA wins. Even with the win, it doesn't change my opinion. The Bruins didn't deserve to be in the field.

scine20 · Unread post by **scine20** » 9 years ago

That was as much goaltending as Dez Bryant's catch was not a catch. By the rule I guess both were right but anyone watching knows that the ball was not going in the basket.

jmck · Unread post by **jmck** » 9 years ago

That ball was not in the cylinder and was not going to make it there.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 9 years ago

Six games completed. Better seeds only advance in three. Two 14 seeds upset a 3 and an 11 beats a 6.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Sorry, the AAC was a fraud conference.

SMU was the best of a very mediocre bunch.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

And UCLA deserved to be in?? Nope

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

That win doesn't justify UCLA making the Dance.

SMU was way too high a seed. Should have been a 9 or 10 at best.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

That ball would not have gone in and that was a lousy call!

Sweep The Leg · Unread post by **Sweep The Leg** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:That ball would not have gone in and that was a lousy call!

Agreed. Guessing that will be reviewable in the last 2 minutes next year.

seanmc94 · Unread post by **seanmc94** » 9 years ago

Ball doesn't have to be going in; it was on the down arc and had a chance to hit the rim.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 9 years ago

I'm sure the media loves it. The bias towards P5 is unreal and the upsets are just awesome.

Sweep The Leg · Unread post by **Sweep The Leg** » 9 years ago

The double foul in OT of the VCU game was beyond comprehensible. Should have been a foul on Tate and possibly a Flagrant 1.

Sweep The Leg · Unread post by **Sweep The Leg** » 9 years ago

seanmc94 wrote:Ball doesn't have to be going in; it was on the down arc and had a chance to hit the rim.

No chance of going in. Way off to the right. See ATP's image.

But, if you are a SMU player, don't even do that.

Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 9 years ago

Sweep The Leg wrote:The double foul in OT of the VCU game was beyond comprehensible. Should have been a foul on Tate and possibly a Flagrant 1.

Absolutely .... he elbowed him when he was getting up.

Sweep The Leg · Unread post by **Sweep The Leg** » 9 years ago

I noticed that they're some pretty horribly coached teams. In the ND game in particular, 1.9 left up by 4 and ND is challenging the inbounds and 3. Seriously?? Norte Dame supposedly has smart student athletes, right?

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Man, so many games are being decided by questionable [or ridiculous] calls nowadays.

We've had our share of them.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 9 years ago

Loved how Dayton fans got on the refs early with the boos. If fans continue what we did against Iona, the NCAA has no choice but to make changes. If a home team has their crowd booing refs at halftime when their team is up double digits rather that cheering their team, they have problems.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

The NCAA has a lot of problems, and the quality of the refs is one of them. A big one.

Hard to see how that gets fixed though. Throw $ at it? Most of these guys have other jobs.

Would cost huge dollars to have fully and properly trained refs who are all full time. The BB season only lasts about 5 months.

Rhode_Island_Red · Unread post by **Rhode_Island_Red** » 9 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:The NCAA has a lot of problems, and the quality of the refs is one of them. A big one.

Hard to see how that gets fixed though. Throw $ at it? Most of these guys have other jobs.

Would cost huge dollars to have fully and properly trained refs who are all full time. The BB season only lasts about 5 months.

True, but if all officials were paid the same and overseen by one central clearinghouse there might be some consistency.

I also think that it might be better to go back to two officials instead of three. First, you can eliminate the bottom third of all officials so there are fewer Wally Ruteckis and Bryan Kerseys. Second, they rely on replay for so many things that the replay has become an extra official.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

Congrats to Greg Youncofski!

The Dude · Unread post by **The Dude** » 9 years ago

Well I didn't see tie Iowa state or Baylor upsets coming. Big 12 is so overrated as a conference. What a joke.
Call against SMU was bogus. Analysts even thought it was. Ball was an air ball heading behind and to the right of the rim and not above the cylinder or inline with the basket. Crazy ending! UCLA didn't deserve to be in the tournament. What a shame. Poor SMU.
Despite some crazy stuff, bracket is still strong on ESPN.

RoadyJay · Unread post by **RoadyJay** » 9 years ago

ace wrote:Congrats to Greg Youncofski!

Ahhh yes... Cincy staff

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Some really awful calls in the Georgetown-EWU
game.
A Georgetown player punched an EWU player to the floor.
The refs actually looked at it on the monitors and didn't call a thing!
After that, EWU just collapsed.
The announcers are still talking about the no call.
Such putrid calls all post season.

The Dude · Unread post by **The Dude** » 9 years ago

Arkansas better not lose. Ridiculous. Just craziness.

Sweep The Leg · Unread post by **Sweep The Leg** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Some really awful calls in the Georgetown-EWU
game.
A Georgetown player punched an EWU player to the floor.
The refs actually looked at it on the monitors and didn't call a thing!
After that, EWU just collapsed.
The announcers are still talking about the no call.
Such putrid calls all post season.

Saw that too. It was after the whistle while the player twisted his ankle and I thought he was going to help him up, but the asshole runs after the ball. If Lewis gets a Flagrant 1 for attempting a layup and flaying his elbow, what the hell is a clothesline to the chest? Such horse shit officiating.

Unread post by **SGreenwell** » 9 years ago

I'm kind of OK with the goaltending call. In the moment, I thought the ball was going to hit the side of the rim, and once it does that, who knows where the ball kicks out to? I don't like that the refs can seemingly review a bunch of other things though, and not that.

Unread post by **SGreenwell** » 9 years ago

Sweep The Leg wrote:
rodfromcranston wrote:Some really awful calls in the Georgetown-EWU
game.
A Georgetown player punched an EWU player to the floor.
The refs actually looked at it on the monitors and didn't call a thing!
After that, EWU just collapsed.
The announcers are still talking about the no call.
Such putrid calls all post season.
Saw that too. It was after the whistle while the player twisted his ankle and I thought he was going to help him up, but the asshole runs after the ball. If Lewis gets a Flagrant 1 for attempting a layup and flaying his elbow, what the hell is a clothesline to the chest? Such horse shit officiating.

I also was surprised there was no F1 or even a F2 on that call.

Sweep The Leg · Unread post by **Sweep The Leg** » 9 years ago

SGreenwell wrote:
Sweep The Leg wrote:
rodfromcranston wrote:Some really awful calls in the Georgetown-EWU
game.
A Georgetown player punched an EWU player to the floor.
The refs actually looked at it on the monitors and didn't call a thing!
After that, EWU just collapsed.
The announcers are still talking about the no call.
Such putrid calls all post season.
Saw that too. It was after the whistle while the player twisted his ankle and I thought he was going to help him up, but the asshole runs after the ball. If Lewis gets a Flagrant 1 for attempting a layup and flaying his elbow, what the hell is a clothesline to the chest? Such horse shit officiating.
I also was surprised there was no F1 or even a F2 on that call.

I was thinking F2. Similar strike in the Cincy game and the player got tossed.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

Sweep The Leg wrote:
SGreenwell wrote:

I also was surprised there was no F1 or even a F2 on that call.
I was thinking F2. Similar strike in the Cincy game and the player got tossed.

But! But that would be .... wait for it.........

CONSISTENCY!

Sweep The Leg · Unread post by **Sweep The Leg** » 9 years ago

ATPTourFan wrote:
Sweep The Leg wrote:
SGreenwell wrote:

I also was surprised there was no F1 or even a F2 on that call.
I was thinking F2. Similar strike in the Cincy game and the player got tossed.
But! But that would be .... wait for it.........

CONSISTENCY!

They are consistent. But, unfortunately, it's at being horrible. So they got that going for them, which is nice.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/03/ucla-sm ... ament-2015

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

Great point in this tweet... I'm so angry about this horrible UCLA benefiting call...

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

Rhode_Island_Red · Unread post by **Rhode_Island_Red** » 9 years ago

A Georgetown player punching an opponent? And getting away with it? Glad to see two traditions being respected -- Georgetown thuggery and referees letting them get away with it.

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 9 years ago

I wonder if Dan has a 6 hour lay over in Columbus today on his way to California

scine20 · Unread post by **scine20** » 9 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:That win doesn't justify UCLA making the Dance.

SMU was way too high a seed. Should have been a 9 or 10 at best.

Really? I thought they got screwed and should have been a 5 seed based on their credentials.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

Are you kidding me?! Wally needs to go. Like, yesterday.

Rhode_Island_Red · Unread post by **Rhode_Island_Red** » 9 years ago

Good lord. Who does this guy have Polaroids of?

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

I wonder what kind of pleasantries Bobby and Holton will have after this game?

Will Doug Gottleib mention their previous connection in the Spring of 2012 in Kingston??? There's some in-game chatter for you.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

If Bobby and Holton had anything to do with each other,
it was really short lived.
Holton got busted very soon after the Hurleys landed here.
Buffalo had better value the ball a lot better.
They had some great blown chances after they got it down to three.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

Your point? He still f-d over his younger brother by getting arrested and being stupid. Bobby was there long enough to get a feel for what Holton was capable of doing -- good and bad.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Great, so he should hate Billy Baron even more.
Exactly what was the timeline on Holton?
He was an idiot, but I'm sure he didn't intend on getting caught.
What Billy did, was a deliberate act.
So what the hell do you want Bobby to do? Try to punch him?
Swear at him? WTF!

RAM67 · Unread post by **RAM67** » 9 years ago

Ask for a copy of the tapes?

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

It was three years ago.
I think Bobby has bigger things on his mind than
starting a vendetta with Holton.

Rhode_Island_Red · Unread post by **Rhode_Island_Red** » 9 years ago

Doug Gottlieb just mentioned that Bobby Hurley went onto the court to yell at Wally Rutecki. As Hank Jr. said, "just carryin' on an old fam-leee tradition."

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

Rhode_Island_Red wrote:Doug Gottlieb just mentioned that Bobby Hurley went onto the court to yell at Wally Rutecki. As Hank Jr. said, "just carryin' on an old fam-leee tradition."

WHAT DOES THAT MAKE HUGGY-BEAR? A KISSIN' COUSIN??????? HE WAS AFTER RUTECKI AFTER 3 MINUTES IN!!!!!!

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

The Buffalo game is like watching URI at its worst and spurts of good play……..UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

Have watched them a few times and disagree....if you watched their two teams play you would have a hard time guessing the coaches were related, let alone very close brothers. Our styles couldnt be more different.