The 2021 Coaching Carousel

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.......I am sure he is looking forward to the bus ride up the Hudson Valley to Poughkeepsie to play the powerful Red Foxes.......who wants Iona in the A-10 now?.......

[rhodyblue12]

No one should want them - Slick Rick will be gone in a year, two tops.

[phipsiGD'11]

Apparently Iona was smart enough to put an astronomical buyout in his contract.

[TruePoint]

.......I am sure he is looking forward to the bus ride up the Hudson Valley to Poughkeepsie to play the powerful Red Foxes.......who wants Iona in the A-10 now?.......

Still nobody

[ATPTourFan]

He will be there for a year.

[daytonflyerfan]

who wants Iona in the A-10 now?.......

I still do. I would gladly take them over Fordham, Duquesne, or LaSalle. But at least Duquesne is showing signs of life with Dambrot. And LaSalle may be on the right track now with hc Howard. Fordham needs to find a new league.

[daytonflyerfan]

Pitino is a great hire for Iona because when was the last time anyone talked about Iona basketball until this week? What did they have to lose. Might as well try to get some buzz.

Huh? People talk about them all the time. 6 ncaat and 2 nit in the last 9 years.

[TruePoint]

Pitino is a great hire for Iona because when was the last time anyone talked about Iona basketball until this week? What did they have to lose. Might as well try to get some buzz.

Huh? People talk about them all the time. 6 ncaat and 2 nit in the last 9 years.

Dominating a lousy conference doesn’t make you relevant to the larger college basketball world. It’s not like they’re going to the tournament every year in the top half of the bracket and advancing. Props to them for successfully becoming chum on a consistent basis but I’d be shocked if they’ve never been a top-100 team even in this stretch of relative success.

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......past coaches include; Cluess, Pat Kennedy, Jeff Ruland, Kevin Willard, Tim Welsh, Jim Valvano.....for me, this group makes Iona relevant In college hoops......

[daytonflyerfan]

Pitino is a great hire for Iona because when was the last time anyone talked about Iona basketball until this week? What did they have to lose. Might as well try to get some buzz.

Huh? People talk about them all the time. 6 ncaat and 2 nit in the last 9 years.

Dominating a lousy conference doesn’t make you relevant to the larger college basketball world. It’s not like they’re going to the tournament every year in the top half of the bracket and advancing. Props to them for successfully becoming chum on a consistent basis but I’d be shocked if they’ve never been a top-100 team even in this stretch of relative success.

Well, you should be shocked then.

http://www.collegerpi.com

Click on a school name in the menu on the top of the page and then click on rpi history.

16 finishes of rpi 120 or better since 1993-1994...that is better than probably maybe half of the current A10.

Iona RPI history

Record RPI Rank SOS Rank
2019-2020 rpi 258
2018-2019 rpi 206
2017-2018 rpi 107
2016-2017 rpi 88
2015-2016 22-10 0.5566 77 0.5033 147
2014-2015 26-8 0.5711 51 0.4859 190
2013-2014 22-10 0.5690 59 0.5167 121
2012-2013 20-13 0.5407 98 0.5069 136
2011-2012 25-7 0.5819 40 0.5045 144
2010-2011 22-11 0.5614 68 0.5176 123
2009-2010 21-10 0.5471 86 0.5035 155
2008-2009 12-19 0.4708 213 0.4917 166
2007-2008 12-20 0.4631 225 0.4859 188
2006-2007 2-28 0.3779 326 0.4800 194
2005-2006 23-7 0.5656 64 0.5011 154
2004-2005 15-16 0.4795 195 0.4739 214
2003-2004 11-18 0.4726 203 0.5036 140
2002-2003 17-12 0.5034 153 0.4758 223
2001-2002 13-17 0.4580 235 0.4662 238
2000-2001 21-10 0.5294 110 0.4800 192
1999-2000 20-10 0.5366 99 0.4932 164
1998-1999 15-14 0.5192 120 0.5198 108
1997-1998 26-5 0.5772 40 0.4901 160
1996-1997 22-7 0.5280 101 0.4512 256
1995-1996 21-7 0.5578 58 0.4937 150
1994-1995 10-17 0.4264 254 0.4451 262
1993-1994 7-20 0.4090 270 0.4589 243

[TruePoint]

We’re back to using RPI now?

[daytonflyerfan]

Yeah, I just checked...on a rpi basis of being #120 or better, they have bested: Duquesne, Fordham, George Mason, GW, LaSalle, UMass, RI, Richmond, and St. Bonaventure.

They have been better than 9 of the current A10 schools. In no particular order, Dayton, SLU, VCU, St. Joe's, and Davidson have bested or tied them.

Heck, they have been better than even you guys.

[daytonflyerfan]

We’re back to using RPI now?

What else do you want me to use? The rpi is the only metric that I am aware of that has a long enough history such that you can go back decades in order to compare teams.

[PeterRamTime]

He will be there for a year.

I'm thinking people might hold out on him for two years.

[hrstrat57]

Check out this article from USA TODAY:

Rick Pitino says he deserved to be fired: 'I totally agree with the University of Louisville'

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 065932002/

[RhodyKyle]

Pitino is a great hire for Iona because when was the last time anyone talked about Iona basketball until this week? What did they have to lose. Might as well try to get some buzz.

Huh? People talk about them all the time. 6 ncaat and 2 nit in the last 9 years.

Dominating a lousy conference doesn’t make you relevant to the larger college basketball world. It’s not like they’re going to the tournament every year in the top half of the bracket and advancing. Props to them for successfully becoming chum on a consistent basis but I’d be shocked if they’ve never been a top-100 team even in this stretch of relative success.

No dog in this fight. I wouldn't want the Tim Cluess gimmick system of "3 and no-d" but if they build themselves up under Pitino and then his replacement where they are more of a complete team then maybe we can give them a look.

Using KenPom Rankings

2012 - #54
2013 - #89
2014 - #76
2015 - #100

[daytonflyerfan]

No dog in this fight. I wouldn't want the Tim Cluess gimmick system of "3 and no-d" but if they build themselves up under Pitino and then his replacement where they are more of a complete team then maybe we can give them a look.

Using KenPom Rankings

2012 - #54
2013 - #89
2014 - #76
2015 - #100

As I have stated before, Iona is not my 1st choice in terms of A10 expansion, and I really do not have a dog in this fight, but I do not understand everybody on here constantly denigrating them, they are arguably better than over half of the current A10. I just like for facts, not opinions or personal perceptions, to matter.

[RF1]

We’re back to using RPI now?

It was the main computer rankings tool back then. The NET only came into existence two years ago (2018-19).

As for some wanting Iona in the A-10. Slow down. Pitino is 67 years old. He will not be there for long on the sidelines. The college plays its men's basketball games in the 2,600 nearly all bleacher seat Hynes Athletic Center. It's men's basketball home attendance average for the last five years has been:

Iona Attendance
2019-20 1,561
2018-19 1,622
2017-18 1,638
2016-17 1,779
2015-16 1,826

Furthermore, Iona is a small school of just 3,300 undergraduates, most of them commuters. It has only existed since 1940 and has a small endowment.

Iona College is in my view on many different levels not a good long term option for the A-10.

[Rhode_Island_Red]

Besides, are there enough hookers in the New Rochelle containment zone?

[TruePoint]

There have been computer rankings way before NET. Sagarin and Kenpom both go back further than the window we were talking about. Anyways, if Iona was in the top-100 then good for them. For whatever reason, I cannot bring myself to think of them as a basketball school, anymore than if Quinnipiac or Northeastern got good for a few years.

A couple of my good friends went to Iona (they are rightfully pumped about hiring Pitino), I don’t have anything against the school. I partied there a lot during college. But they’ll be the first to tell you that they don’t think of Iona as a basketball school either. Both of them played other sports at Iona, one of them was a starter on a state championship basketball team in high school - and neither ever attended one basketball game in 4 years there.

[ramster]

No dog in this fight. I wouldn't want the Tim Cluess gimmick system of "3 and no-d" but if they build themselves up under Pitino and then his replacement where they are more of a complete team then maybe we can give them a look.

Using KenPom Rankings

2012 - #54
2013 - #89
2014 - #76
2015 - #100

As I have stated before, Iona is not my 1st choice in terms of A10 expansion, and I really do not have a dog in this fight, but I do not understand everybody on here constantly denigrating them, they are a u rguably better than over half of the current A10. I just like for facts, not opinions or personal perceptions, to matter.

Been to the NCAA 9 times this century

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[daytonflyerfan]

There have been computer rankings way before NET. Sagarin and Kenpom both go back further than the window we were talking about. Anyways, if Iona was in the top-100 then good for them. For whatever reason, I cannot bring myself to think of them as a basketball school, anymore than if Quinnipiac or Northeastern got good for a few years.

A couple of my good friends went to Iona (they are rightfully pumped about hiring Pitino), I don’t have anything against the school. I partied there a lot during college. But they’ll be the first to tell you that they don’t think of Iona as a basketball school either. Both of them played other sports at Iona, one of them was a starter on a state championship basketball team in high school - and neither ever attended one basketball game in 4 years there.

Fair enough, but the below stats look like a basketball school to me...a LOT of non-p5 schools have not done as well...

NCAA Tournament Appearances

1979, 1980*, 1984, 1985, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019
*vacated by NCAA

NIT appearances

1982, 1983, 1996, 1997, 2014, 2015

[ramster]

Improvements to Iona Basketball Facility

https://icgaels.com/news/2019/5/9/hynes ... -2019.aspx

[PeterRamTime]

There have been computer rankings way before NET. Sagarin and Kenpom both go back further than the window we were talking about. Anyways, if Iona was in the top-100 then good for them. For whatever reason, I cannot bring myself to think of them as a basketball school, anymore than if Quinnipiac or Northeastern got good for a few years.

A couple of my good friends went to Iona (they are rightfully pumped about hiring Pitino), I don’t have anything against the school. I partied there a lot during college. But they’ll be the first to tell you that they don’t think of Iona as a basketball school either. Both of them played other sports at Iona, one of them was a starter on a state championship basketball team in high school - and neither ever attended one basketball game in 4 years there.

Fair enough, but the below stats look like a basketball school to me...a LOT of non-p5 schools have not done as well...

NCAA Tournament Appearances

1979, 1980*, 1984, 1985, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019
*vacated by NCAA

NIT appearances

1982, 1983, 1996, 1997, 2014, 2015

The fact of the matter is, Iona has had great success over the last decade, so they must have some good basketball culture going on. Since they aren't big time at all, most people wont care. Maybe if they won some tournament games it would have changed things dramatically.

That being said, Pitino has a lot to work with and I wouldn't be surprised if he could make them really good within two years.

Definitely want them on the schedule next year.

[daytonflyerfan]

We’re back to using RPI now?

Iona has been in the Kenpom top 117 or better 11 times out of the 24 years since 1997...they are doing something right...

[hrstrat57]

There have been computer rankings way before NET. Sagarin and Kenpom both go back further than the window we were talking about. Anyways, if Iona was in the top-100 then good for them. For whatever reason, I cannot bring myself to think of them as a basketball school, anymore than if Quinnipiac or Northeastern got good for a few years.

A couple of my good friends went to Iona (they are rightfully pumped about hiring Pitino), I don’t have anything against the school. I partied there a lot during college. But they’ll be the first to tell you that they don’t think of Iona as a basketball school either. Both of them played other sports at Iona, one of them was a starter on a state championship basketball team in high school - and neither ever attended one basketball game in 4 years there.

Fair enough, but the below stats look like a basketball school to me...a LOT of non-p5 schools have not done as well...

NCAA Tournament Appearances

1979, 1980*, 1984, 1985, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019
*vacated by NCAA

NIT appearances

1982, 1983, 1996, 1997, 2014, 2015

The fact of the matter is, Iona has had great success over the last decade, so they must have some good basketball culture going on. Since they aren't big time at all, most people wont care. Maybe if they won some tournament games it would have changed things dramatically.

That being said, Pitino has a lot to work with and I wouldn't be surprised if he could make them really good within two years.

Definitely want them on the schedule next year.

Book Iona to RC = sellout

Make the call now.

Just a itsy bitsy dance with somebody else’s devil

[TruePoint]

I would definitely love to schedule them, I’d even give them a home-and-home in 2020 and 2021. Think it’s a no-brainer.

[PeterRamTime]

Sellout, blow them out. Embarrass Pitino.
They'll likely have decent metrics too.

[SGreenwell]

I think both of these things can be true: A) Iona is a good basketball school and B) They're not a great fit for the Atlantic 10. With those attendance figures, they strike me as a "big fish, small pond" type of success story. If we're looking to do a 1-to-1 swap-out of teams in our conference, sure, they're better than half of them, but it also doesn't strike me as a program you proactively extend the olive branch toward.

[RF1]

Improvements to Iona Basketball Facility

https://icgaels.com/news/2019/5/9/hynes ... -2019.aspx

Even with the recent renovation, its capacity is still about 2,600. It still remains nearly all bleachers with less than 300 chair-back seats.

[daytonflyerfan]

How about this, how about you folks list the schools with better attendance AND better results than Iona that the A10 could realistically add. Murray State is #1 on my list, and even with them, football might prevent them from joining the A10.

Siena has clearly done worse than Iona.

[TruePoint]

Why add anyone? The A10 should have 11 teams and play a 20 game round robin.

[daytonflyerfan]

Why add anyone? The A10 should have 11 teams and play a 20 game round robin.

Because we all know that schools rarely get kicked out of any league, it just doesn't happen. Let's add 2 and go to 16.

[ramster]

There have been computer rankings way before NET. Sagarin and Kenpom both go back further than the window we were talking about. Anyways, if Iona was in the top-100 then good for them. For whatever reason, I cannot bring myself to think of them as a basketball school, anymore than if Quinnipiac or Northeastern got good for a few years.

A couple of my good friends went to Iona (they are rightfully pumped about hiring Pitino), I don’t have anything against the school. I partied there a lot during college. But they’ll be the first to tell you that they don’t think of Iona as a basketball school either. Both of them played other sports at Iona, one of them was a starter on a state championship basketball team in high school - and neither ever attended one basketball game in 4 years there.

Fair enough, but the below stats look like a basketball school to me...a LOT of non-p5 schools have not done as well...

NCAA Tournament Appearances

1979, 1980*, 1984, 1985, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019
*vacated by NCAA

NIT appearances

1982, 1983, 1996, 1997, 2014, 2015

The fact of the matter is, Iona has had great success over the last decade, so they must have some good basketball culture going on. Since they aren't big time at all, most people wont care. Maybe if they won some tournament games it would have changed things dramatically.

That being said, Pitino has a lot to work with and I wouldn't be surprised if he could make them really good within two years.

Definitely want them on the schedule next year.

Don’t need 2 years. Pitino can do it immediately. The transfer portal is full and getting fuller. Players can transfer and play immediately.
Iona always took on transfers but will now more than ever.

[NYGFan_Section208]

It is going to be tough for Slick Rick to get top recruits to go there as that conference is just awful

He is probably going to need lots of transfers

reef...you're joking, right? Rick is not going to have a problem getting players....

[bigappleram]

How about this, how about you folks list the schools with better attendance AND better results than Iona that the A10 could realistically add. Murray State is #1 on my list, and even with them, football might prevent them from joining the A10.

Siena has clearly done worse than Iona.

You ignore that Siena draws 7-8k a night.
You will have to look long and hard for any mid majors that can make that claim. Facilities and fan support would be my 2 biggest criteria bc they correlate to what their ceiling is.

[bigappleram]

But to be clear I would cut 2 programs before adding any.

[RIrugger01]

How about this, how about you folks list the schools with better attendance AND better results than Iona that the A10 could realistically add. Murray State is #1 on my list, and even with them, football might prevent them from joining the A10.

Siena has clearly done worse than Iona.

You ignore that Siena draws 7-8k a night.
You will have to look long and hard for any mid majors that can make that claim. Facilities and fan support would be my 2 biggest criteria bc they correlate to what their ceiling is.

Siena also has a good, young coach and won the regular season title this year. Had a very good chance of going to the dance this year. 2 wins away. Plus, the Albany area doesn’t have any pro teams since the Arena League folded. College sports are the biggest draw in town.

[daytonflyerfan]

Something just seems off with Siena. They just don't excite me. I don't have anything against them personally. In theory, with that massive arena, they should be dominating the MAAC league, but they are not. They are just meh to me. Seems like a habitually underachieving program. And imo, with programs that habitually underachieve, there are usually very clear underlying problems that cause that underachievement.

[daytonflyerfan]

Siena plays in 15,229 seat arena. It is the 32nd biggest arena in d1. What in the world are they doing playing in the MAAC?

https://www.fueledbysports.com/largest- ... ll-arenas/

[ramster]

The NET has Sienna at 151. Behind UMASS.

3 3 Dayton Atlantic 10 29-2 9-0 3-2 17-0 0-0
38 38 Richmond Atlantic 10 24-7 9-3 1-2 14-2 0-0
49 49 Saint Louis Atlantic 10 22-8 7-4 1-1 14-3 1-0
57 57 Rhode Island Atlantic 10 21-9 8-5 1-1 12-3 0-0
68 68 VCU Atlantic 10 18-13 4-7 0-2 14-4 0-0
75 75 Davidson Atlantic 10 16-14 4-9 1-3 11-2 0-0
94 94 Duquesne Atlantic 10 21-9 6-3 5-2 10-4 0-0
122 122 St. Bonaventure Atlantic 10 18-12 7-7 3-0 8-5 1-0
132 132 Massachusetts Atlantic 10 14-17 3-9 0-3 11-5 0-0
151 Sienna
167 167 George Mason Atlantic 10 17-15 3-8 4-0 10-7 0-0
171 171 La Salle Atlantic 10 15-15 4-8 3-0 8-7 0-0
219 219 George Washington Atlantic 10 12-20 3-9 2-2 7-9 0-0
240 240 Saint Joseph's Atlantic 10 6-26 2-12 0-4 4-10 0-0
244 244 Fordham Atlantic 10 9-22 1-8 2-2 6-12 0-0

[reef]

Pitino admitted he should have been canned cuz he was ultimately in charge of the program even if his assistants were the ones who were going behind his back and breaking rules

This is a good situation for both I think Slick Rick coaches 3-5 years at Iona then retires in his early 70s ????

[Rhode_Island_Red]

Pitino admitted he should have been canned cuz he was ultimately in charge of the program even if his assistants were the ones who were going behind his back and breaking rules

This is a good situation for both I think Slick Rick coaches 3-5 years at Iona then retires in his early 70s ????

The lying never stops. A control freak like him didn’t know what his assistants and players were doing? Yeah. Right. Sure. OK, Little Ricky, whatever you say.

[giovanni]

[ramster]

Iona Harvard home and home
Already started beefing up the Iona schedule

[NYGFan_Section208]

Pitino admitted he should have been canned cuz he was ultimately in charge of the program even if his assistants were the ones who were going behind his back and breaking rules

This is a good situation for both I think Slick Rick coaches 3-5 years at Iona then retires in his early 70s ????

I don't think he makes it that long there...1 maaaaaaaaybe 2 yrs, then onward/upward.

[ramster]

Yep. But those 1 or 2 years could be something to watch. I know where my money will be. Could be a profitable 2 years

[hrstrat57]

Make
The
Call
Now

[RF1]

I have no desire at all to see scum like Pitino. If URI schedules him, I will not go to the game.

[ramster]

Pitino and Iona in the Ryan Center would be huge.
Sell out for sure. PC Fans will buy up whatever tickets URI can’t sell to see their former HC