Jordan Hare's Roster Status: Back Out Again

section(105) · Unread post by **section(105)** » 9 years ago

Shocked? No. Surprised? Yes. The timing is just difficult to understand. I will go for that the kid has a case of stage fright. Once the curtain is about to go up, he bails out, looking for the easy quick exit. Move on, done, over, and out. Disappointing for sure.

RIFan · Unread post by **RIFan** » 9 years ago

did I miss where they said why he quit? I didn't see any reports that he was slacking off...did I miss something?

NJ03 · Unread post by **NJ03** » 9 years ago

Good riddance. Talented, sure. But what a headache. Time to move on.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

As long as this is finally it concerning JH, I would imagine Dan will be able to talk about it at some point.

Just hope he stays in school and graduates. That will help his future and the team's [APR] too.

Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 9 years ago

I'd had high hopes for him when he came back, but this finally proves he's a head case. It would have been nice to have someone with his length and athleticism in the lineup, but not at the expense of team chemistry. I was heartened by Watson's play tonight. Perhaps we won't miss Hare as much as I initially thought.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

ace wrote:Always worrisome when you don't see him at practice. At least it's now official.

Listen to Ace. Always.

To me, without any additional input from usual sources, it would seem that the decision ultimately was Dan's. I would guess he did not want to even begin the season WITH Hare if there wasn't the 100% commitment to completing all requirements of being a member of the team.

If Hare wasn't at some practices, my guess is that Dan ended this before it could become an even bigger distraction.

Again, I haven't heard anything to support my guess here.

Rhody72 · Unread post by **Rhody72** » 9 years ago

This is a loss; but a loss of a reserve. He was probably ahead of Earl and Iffy.

Taylor Swift · Unread post by **Taylor Swift** » 9 years ago

You know the saying. Fool me once shame in you, full me twice shame on me. It would be unfair to the other players and all student athletes in general to keep giving Hare the amount of opportunities he's been given.

section(105) · Unread post by **section(105)** » 9 years ago

I posted back in May I would hold my excitement until Dan Yorke calls his name at a pre-season event....when I walked in the RC tonite and he is not there, I was thinking here we go again.....can we start a season w/o the drama? Please.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 9 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:As long as this is finally it concerning JH, I would imagine Dan will be able to talk about it at some point.

He said in the postgame that its a personal matter and he won't comment. So I wouldnt expect to hear much.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

That's fine, as long as it's OVER. No more uncertainty. Sounds like it might have been a mutual decision.

Better that way.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 9 years ago

The kid is a head case. I hope he goes back to Michigan as soon as possible, stays there, and is never heard of ever again.

He quit on his team not once but TWICE.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 9 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:That's fine, as long as it's OVER. No more uncertainty. Sounds like it might have been a mutual decision.

Better that way.

Yeah, safe to say its over for sure this time.

Tom98 · Unread post by **Tom98** » 9 years ago

Listen to me everybody.....this is a major problem. I'm sure Jordan really screwed up and deserved to be off the team but unfortunately for us we are going to have major problems down low. WE HAVE NO LENGTH IN THE PAINT!!! We played a D2 team tonight and height wise you wouldn't be able to tell what team was D1 and what team was D2. Are tallest player is Gil at 6"8 and unfortunately against a legitimate D1 team we are going to have major issues. Rebounding/Blocking are key components in D1 basketball. Hare wasn't Shaq by any means but his length and presence at 6"10 are needed. I really like Watson but at 6"7 it just doesn't match up to top tier teams... We are small in the paint plain and simple....Gil can't D up against a true 5....remember last year?????

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

All we've been hearing is that Jordan's attitude, work ethic and focus had changed for the better. What the hell happened?

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

It didn't?

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

ATPTourFan wrote:It didn't?

But even Dan said it in one of his fairly recent interviews.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

Well, I guess it's time for Jared to give his good buddy, Abu, a call...

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:
ATPTourFan wrote:It didn't?
But even Dan said it in one of his fairly recent interviews.

We all know that coaches talk up any aspect of their team...

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

OK, you Hare butt kissers, duck!
I said this kid was a headcase, and anyone who relied on him was buying
into fools gold.
I heard he was pissed at not working with the first team.
Did he expect to supplant Martin or Biruta?
He put himself once more, ahead of his teammates and his coaches.
Good riddance to a quitter.
Quitters never win and winners never quit.

Blue Man · Unread post by **Blue Man** » 9 years ago

It was dan's call so Jordan can kick rocks and go back to stocking shelves. No one is above the team...especially someone who was all potential and didn't want to work.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Was waiting for Rod to explode on Hare. Didn't disappoint!

But he's right, also.

Hare had talent, but lacked it where it counts, between the ears.

Selfish and didn't want to work hard enough. Kind of explains it.

Well, the team, the school, and the fans lose. Again.

There's no doubt he would have helped, if he was a team player. Just hope he doesn't quit again, on his schoolwork. Wouldn't surprise me though.

McRam · Unread post by **McRam** » 9 years ago

Tom98 wrote:Listen to me everybody.....this is a major problem. I'm sure Jordan really screwed up and deserved to be off the team but unfortunately for us we are going to have major problems down low. WE HAVE NO LENGTH IN THE PAINT!!! We played a D2 team tonight and height wise you wouldn't be able to tell what team was D1 and what team was D2. Are tallest player is Gil at 6"8 and unfortunately against a legitimate D1 team we are going to have major issues. Rebounding/Blocking are key components in D1 basketball. Hare wasn't Shaq by any means but his length and presence at 6"10 are needed. I really like Watson but at 6"7 it just doesn't match up to top tier teams... We are small in the paint plain and simple....Gil can't D up against a true 5....remember last year?????

Yep, --true and for sure it is made worse by the tendency of the 4 "bigs"(Hassan, Gil, Watson and Iffy) to get into foul trouble. Furthermore, we would be severely limited if Iffy and Watson have to play at the same time. BUT, by the same token how many teams can match up with our 3 prime time guards plus TJ(not sure if TJ is a guard, forward or just valuable to have on the court.

This will be a guard oriented team and a damn good one. I fully expect that there will be times that DH plays 4 guards and Hassan at the same time, and I'm betting that lineup would likely be successful.

There have been plenty of successful, exciting "undersized" teams over the years. Everyone loves watching the small guy go around the big guy; I have no reason to believe that DH does not have this has his game plan.

Hope I am right!!!!

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Well, TJ, EC, Biggie, and Terrell can all rebound the ball and run, along with JG, so why not?

4 guards would work well in a game where we can force the tempo. Hassan can also get up the floor in a hurry.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

I told someone that as freshmen, I preferred to see Mike Aaman in the game than Hare.
At least Mike put his heart and soul into his game. He had some low post moves
and could shoot free throws.
Hare's 11% free throw percentage from high school shows a lack of working on
his game.
EC MAtthews averaged more rebounds per game than Hare did. EC is 6'5" and a guard!
Rambone Hare's problem may be between his ears, but it's also lack of something
in his chest. HEART!
The bullshit blizzard, baby mama drama driven, soap opera, "I'm in!" "I'm out",
"I've changed!", "I'm a new person!". "I missed my team and let everyone down.",
roller coaster ride engineered by Jordan Hare is over.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Dan had to finally put his foot down, or else possibly lose cred within the team.

Can't have a set of rules for everybody, and another different set of rules for one guy.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

Where is Ramster? He must be devastated.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 9 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:Where is Ramster? He must be devastated.

I am

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

I think Hare probably isn't a bad kid, I just think he doesn't really care about basketball. Which makes him a bad teammate at this level. It's too bad when there are so many people who want it so badly and just don't have the physical gifts to see someone with the physical gift not want it enough.

The Dude · Unread post by **The Dude** » 9 years ago

Ouch...this is rough...I mean...this is like wiping your butt with sand paper rough. The tallest two guys on the team are Iffy and Gil at 6'-8" and I think Iffy's 6'-8" is a generous 6'-8". Any team with a legit center is going to have a guy that is anywhere from 6'-10" - 7ft tall which is a 2 to 4 inch height gap. Rhody is going to have their work cut out for them.

Nebraska - one guy 6' 9", two 6' 10", one 6' 11"
Kansas - two guys at 6' 10"
Providence - one guy 6' 9", one 7', one 7' 2"
St. Joes - one guy 6' 9", two guys 6' 10"
VCU - one guy 6' 9", one guy 7'
Fordham - two guys 6' 9", one 6' 10"
St. Louis - one guy 6' 9", one 6' 10, one 6' 11"
Need I continue.....?

I'm sorry to see Hare leave.
He could've been a contender. He could've been somebody.
Oh well, I wish him all the best and hope he eventually sorts things out. Rhody needs to start recruiting some height...stat...chop..chop coaches...let's get some kids in the works here...I mean damn...even Baron was able to land a Jon Clark(meaning a big body center)...not asking for miracles here.

Running Ram · Unread post by **Running Ram** » 9 years ago

I haven't read the projo article, is that where people are getting the impression that he's staying in school?

Unread post by **SGreenwell** » 9 years ago

Running Ram wrote:I haven't read the projo article, is that where people are getting the impression that he's staying in school?

Yes. It's also typical for teams to not cut a player's scholarship, for APR reasons, unless they think the player's presence on campus is going to cause a distraction or reflect poorly on the school. (Meaning, like in the case of Holton or the URI quarterback this year, the player has been arrested and/or accused of crimes.)

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

I hope nobody is paying to have his girlfriend living here.
Why would he stay here?
Makes no sense.

Running Ram · Unread post by **Running Ram** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:I hope nobody is paying to have his girlfriend living here.
Why would he stay here?
Makes no sense.

right.

I don't get why he would choose to stay and if he does will he follow through?

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

ATPTourFan wrote:
ace wrote:Always worrisome when you don't see him at practice. At least it's now official.
Listen to Ace. Always.

That's some solid advice right there.

Unread post by **SGreenwell** » 9 years ago

Running Ram wrote:
rodfromcranston wrote:I hope nobody is paying to have his girlfriend living here.
Why would he stay here?
Makes no sense.
right.

I don't get why he would choose to stay and if he does will he follow through?

He's basically three to five weeks from the end of the first semester, so I could see him deciding to finish up his courses through then. After that though, yeah, it would be odd if he was sticking around Kingston for whatever reason.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

If this all happened just hours before yesterday's game, how does anyone know that he's staying in school? If the reason for this is that Jordan was slacking off again and missing practice, I doubt that Dan and Jordan sat down and had a nice pleasant conversation about Jordan's plans, when this all came to a head, on game day of opening night of the season.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 9 years ago

Will end up at a juco

Andrew · Unread post by **Andrew** » 9 years ago

Some of the vitriol here is crazy... let it go. He's gone, and the team has moved on already. We should too.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

Andrew wrote:Some of the vitriol here is crazy... let it go. He's gone, and the team has moved on already. We should too.

This happened less than 24 hours ago. I think we have a right to be pissed. I'm guessing that Dan is...

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 9 years ago

I hope Dan can pull strings more than ever on any and all connections to land us some height over the next year.

Like some other guys have said, grad transfer, juco, high school, foreign, does it need to be human? just some serviceable height.

Keaney Blue? does he have eligibility, a healthy Martell would be something for this team.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

I'll bet Dan is glad he doesn't have to be a babysitter any longer. That's the upside.

It will work out in the long run.

JH will transfer either for 2nd semester or next spring most likely.

Keeping Hare's scholly for this season only.

Think about this: Hare was Baron's recruit originally. Only TJ is left from that error, fortunately he's the polar opposite of JH when it comes to work ethic.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:
Andrew wrote:Some of the vitriol here is crazy... let it go. He's gone, and the team has moved on already. We should too.
This happened less than 24 hours ago. I think we have a right to be pissed. I'm guessing that Dan is...

Pissed or not, division two opponent or not, the team kept it together. They knew earlier than it was announced, obviously, but it's still a shake-up to what they were expecting. Jordan's well-liked on the team, but all that was going on creates a messed up situation for the group. Missed opportunities are tough to watch play out.

Ramblinrose · Unread post by **Ramblinrose** » 9 years ago

Youth is wasted on the young. Sometimesctalentbis, too. I was glad he returned. URI teams seldom have depth. But something is off with this guy. His second chance is done. I remember Brien Jenkins from the Skinner years ... a walk on who earned a scholatship. He was getting minutes but quit essentially over playing time. These kids fail to see howcrare these opportunities are. And there are no Mulligans after that.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

It is weird to me that people are assuming the timing of the announcement is the same as the timing of the decision - like Hare walked into the Ryan last night and put his jersey on Hurley's desk at 5pm out of the clear blue sky, and Dan immediately picked up the phone to alert the media.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

He missed practice on Wednesday, supposedly for being sick. That was two days before the game. Maybe it wasn't known right before the game, but it certainly wasn't for very long.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

And Koch reported that it happened just hours before the game. Where did he get that information?

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Whenever it happened, they had time to edit him out of the intro tape.
As for the vitriol here, some (not me) felt Hare would be a game changer.
I thought he'd give us depth and situational play against certain opponents.
Now he's caused yet another in a series of disruptions to the team,
and nobody is supposed to be angry about this?
His words that are obviously just words with no actions to back them up.
His commitment to his team and coach meant nothing.
In light of the coming up empty recruiting a big man this fall,
and Gil graduating, means Hurley and company need to step it
up in their search for a big man.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

Not to mention that fact that he's getting a free education. I'm guessing that only a couple of us on this board had the fortune to get that. He gets a free ride to be a basketball player. He could at least work hard in order to justify that free education. It seems he can't.

NJ03 · Unread post by **NJ03** » 9 years ago

I think Hurley's quote is subtly telling as to how he feels about the Hare situation

“I just thought we had great spirit,” Hurley said. “The guys that we had there today, they’re easy to coach. They support each other. It’s a live bench. As a coach, that’s all you want.”

"The guys we have here...." JH seems to be the only one who didn't buy in. He was a Baron guy, not a DH guy. Obviously has some screws loose and some personal issues. Again, good riddance, time to move on with what we have and concentrate on a big for the future.