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Didn’t I say exactly that? I thought they just weren’t playing him at the end of games to save the year. But I thought the reason he wasn’t playing during competitive games was that he isn’t ready to contribute. I didn’t realize that they thought he could play meaningful minutes but were holding him out to save a year.
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TruePoint wrote: 4 years ago Didn’t I say exactly that? I thought they just weren’t playing him at the end of games to save the year. But I thought the reason he wasn’t playing during competitive games was that he isn’t ready to contribute. I didn’t realize that they thought he could play meaningful minutes but were holding him out to save a year.
Sorry, misunderstood your original post. You were correct. Something changed. They were planning to redshirt him 2 weeks ago.
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steviep123 wrote: 4 years ago
eli#10 wrote: 4 years ago I think if you play no more than 20% of your team's games you are eligible for a red shirt year.
Not entirely true. The 20% part is correct, but you also can't play after a certain point in the year. For example, if you only play 2 games, but those 2 games are the last 2 of the season, then that's a full year of eligibility was used. If they are the first two games, then you can red shirt. I don't really know the full details. Or maybe it's that if you play after 20% of games have been played you are out of luck?
I don’t even think the NCAA knows it’s own redshirt / transfer / billion other rules...
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Welp...one of two things is likely to happen. He plays great and everyone asks why the bleep he hasn't been playing, or he doesn't, and people shout "redshirt him."

Honest question: Can a guy who hasn't played a single minute yet 'because he's not ready'...become 'ready' during the first 8 games...but never be close enough to play ahead of a walk-on before then? Aris played in Game 2...
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So.......what changed???
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I second Rhodyram’s question . You got a 6’7 wing/forward who shot 3’s at 44% and wasn’t ready to play even though we are desperate for outside shooting....they were going to redshirt him, what changed?? Did a switch get flipped or are we just that desperate??
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I second Rhodyram’s question . You got a 6’7 wing/forward who shot 3’s at 44% and wasn’t ready to play even though we are desperate for outside shooting....they were going to redshirt him, what changed?? Did a switch get flipped or are we just that desperate??
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I don’t know what changed. There are several options.
First, Cox has always said you have to be solid on defense to get minutes. The reason DJ wasn’t playing could be difficulties picking up the defense (aka Ryan Preston his Jr year).

I was told DJ had a “slight” injury. Maybe it was more than slight so they were going to redshirt him. And now he has recovered.

Maybe Cox is going to sit Dana after several poor performances and getting the T in last game.

Not sure what changed but something did. The other players have said that Sheppard and DJ are the best 3 point shooters in practice. No guarantee that transfers in high intense games.
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Maybe mods can combine the two DJ Johnson threads we have now
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Rhody83 wrote: 4 years ago I don’t know what changed. There are several options.
First, Cox has always said you have to be solid on defense to get minutes. The reason DJ wasn’t playing could be difficulties picking up the defense (aka Ryan Preston his Jr year).

I was told DJ had a “slight” injury. Maybe it was more than slight so they were going to redshirt him. And now he has recovered.

Maybe Cox is going to sit Dana after several poor performances and getting the T in last game.

Not sure what changed but something did. The other players have said that Sheppard and DJ are the best 3 point shooters in practice. No guarantee that transfers in high intense games.
Not excited about Johnson at all. Is he going to magically appear and start drilling three point shots and be a difference maker in game action? Anyone believing this will be disappointed. DJ playing over Tate just means we are in worse shape despite all of Tate’s struggles.
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RamStock wrote: 4 years ago
Rhody83 wrote: 4 years ago I don’t know what changed. There are several options.
First, Cox has always said you have to be solid on defense to get minutes. The reason DJ wasn’t playing could be difficulties picking up the defense (aka Ryan Preston his Jr year).

I was told DJ had a “slight” injury. Maybe it was more than slight so they were going to redshirt him. And now he has recovered.

Maybe Cox is going to sit Dana after several poor performances and getting the T in last game.

Not sure what changed but something did. The other players have said that Sheppard and DJ are the best 3 point shooters in practice. No guarantee that transfers in high intense games.
Not excited about Johnson at all. Is he going to magically appear and start drilling three point shots and be a difference maker in game action? Anyone believing this will be disappointed. DJ playing over Tate just means we are in worse shape despite all of Tate’s struggles.
That's exactly what I expect. And every 3 that doesn't go in, I'm expecting Toppin to Ram it home. (I actually have no idea, but I'll take this)
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I am not ready to give up on Tate. He’s had a tough couple of games. I think he can play. I hope Cox isn’t ready to give up on him, or give his minutes to someone that was not considered ready to play as recently as last week.
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So we have two separate threads for a kid who hasn’t even played one second for us ... :o
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My guess is they wanted to hold him out for the possible red shirt and not play him until they decided what to do

Now they decide no red shirt so maybe he is good enough to play 10 minutes a game and hit an open 3
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Something appears to be going on with Tate. Sit in 211 and kept an eye on him during Manhattan game. He was clearly upset after being pulled quickly a couple of times. Back to bench hiding under his hoodie. Not engaged during timeouts. Clearly agitated. Hope he is not becoming a problem and snaps out of it
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......maybe we are looking at rotation/lineup changes.....?
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Tate’s confidence on the court is depleted , at least for now. The kid hesitated every time he was open with the ball and this team can’t afford that.
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What might have changed?

URI is now dead last in 3P %. 14th of 14 teams at 31.4%

Russell 37%, Dowtin 35% and Martin 42% are ok. But Richmond as an entire team is 42%! And our 1st A10 game is with Richmond

Off the bench our top 2 shooters in number of 3P attempts are:
Toppin is 4-18 for 22%
Tate is 2-15 for 13%

Sheppard and Johnson were brought in to improve 3P shooting. Time to let Johnson have a crack at it. Can’t wait til next year. What’s to lose.

Well there sure seems to be an opportunity for someone like Johnson with Toppin and Tate a combined 6-33 on 3Ps for 18%

When your last in the A10 in outside shooting you are going to see a lot of zone defenses

How does that definition of insanity go? :roll: :roll:

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Agree Ramster good analysis
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Both Toppin and Tate need to stop shooting 3's, open or not.

Both can get inside and that's their strength, Toppin especially so.

I think Jacob will become a decent 3 pt. shooter....doubt Tate will.

Last season Obi didn't shoot 3's well...this year he's improved.

Toppin and Walker will be taking a lot of Tate's minutes going forward....I imagine that's what is not helping Dana's confidence.
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rambone 78 wrote: 4 years ago Both Toppin and Tate need to stop shooting 3's, open or not.

Both can get inside and that's their strength, Toppin especially so.

I think Jacob will become a decent 3 pt. shooter....doubt Tate will.

Last season Obi didn't shoot 3's well...this year he's improved.

Toppin and Walker will be taking a lot of Tate's minutes going forward....I imagine that's what is not helping Dana's confidence.
I've said this about Toppin, develop a little baby hook in the lane. With the way he gets off the floor, he'll get a clear look and it's sure as hell that nobody is blocking it.
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rambone 78 wrote: 4 years ago Both Toppin and Tate need to stop shooting 3's, open or not.

Both can get inside and that's their strength, Toppin especially so.

I think Jacob will become a decent 3 pt. shooter....doubt Tate will.

Last season Obi didn't shoot 3's well...this year he's improved.

Toppin and Walker will be taking a lot of Tate's minutes going forward....I imagine that's what is not helping Dana's confidence.
I think Toppin will be a good 3 point shooter, still early for him. Tate? Not sure, Coaches know about both players based on practices.

Walker is a good shooter.

Sounds like Coaching Staff is looking to give Johnson minutes and not red shirt. Coaches know Johnson’s capabilities based on practices. Trust the Coaching staff here. Bottom of A10 in all important 3P Shooting means some things have to change.

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Here's a thought.

Maybe he will take Longs minutes?

Long hasn't been horrible out there. Played a little better than I have thought.

Tate has still been better than him.

Wouldn't be shocked if Devale comes in and gives more effective minutes than Long.